02-21-1977 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING HELD
February 21, 1977
Mayor Armstrong called the regular meeting of the City Council of the
City of Edgewater to order Monday, February 21, 1977 at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
Councilwoman Ryta F. Webber
Councilman Henry C. Riggs
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
City Attorney William Gillespie
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Police Chief Earl Baugh
Present
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INVOCATION
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Councilman Dietz made a motion to accept the minutes, being seconded by
Councilman Riggs.
There were several questions in regard to these meetings and the dates.
Councilwoman Webber explained that she called the meeting to order on
February 7th and recessed it until February 8th.
Councilman Sikes asked how a meeting could be recessed if there were not
enough members present to have a meeting? Shouldn't this be stated that
the meeting was called for the next night?
Attorney Gillespie explained that the meeting two weeks ago Tuesday night
should have been a special meeting and the method by which a special
meeting can be called is in the Charter, which is by the Mayor or any
three members of the Council.
Councilman Sikes explained that his question is should the minutes be
corrected to read that the meeting was a special meeting and not a re-
cessed meeting?
Attorney Gillespie stated tha~ the minutes should reflect that a special
meeting was called to be held in place of the regular meeting which was not
held Monday night.
The second was withdrawn and the motion was withdrawn.
Councilman Riggs made a motion to accept the minutes of the meeting held
January 31, 1977, being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED 5-0.
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Mayor Armstrong explained that February 7th was a regular meeting and for the
lack of a quorum, the Acting Mayor called the meeting to order and recessed it
for the following night.
Councilman Sikes stated that she did not recess the meeting because you can
not recess something that you didn't have, so she called a special meeting
for the following Tuesday night.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we approve the minutes which will be
called February 8th because the regular meeting of February 7th didn't
happen because of a lack of a quorum and the Acting Mayor called a special
meeting on February 8th to replace the February 7th meeting, being seconded
by Councilwoman Webber.
At this time there were comments heard from the audience.
Upon roll call vote on the motion, said motion CARRIED, 3-2. Councilman
Sikes and Mayor Armstrong voting NO, stating that they were not present.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS:
Mayor Armstrong read the total of the bills in the General Fund account.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that the bills be paid, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. . Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 4-1. Mayor
Armstrong voting NO.
Mayor Armstrong read the total of the bills in the Water and Wastewater account.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that the bills be paid, being seconded by
Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
-COMMUNICATIONS:
Clerk's Cash Statement
General Fund Budget Report
The City Clerk read a letter from Mrs. Matilda F. Yambor in regard to the
water being turned off during a busy day for her, in order to install a
sprinkling system at Coronado Paint. She stated that she would be grateful
for a reimbursement of her loss.
Mayor Armstrong asked why the water had to be shut off on the highway to
install something on Old County Road?
Councilman Dietz stated that there was a break in the line and there was
nothing they could do. He explained that they did all they could about it.
Mayor Armstrong questioned what we do for the loss that was suffered because
of this?
Councilman Dietz stated that he does not know if the City of Edgewater has
liability insurance for this. He asked Attorney Gillespie about this.
Attorney Gillespie stated that if you establish this precedence then you will
open the door, however it doesn't mean that the claim isn't accurate because
through negligence you may have caused someone to suffer a financial loss.
You may have some insurance to cover it. He said perhaps the liability
carrier should be notified of this and he could adjust it with the claim.
Mayor Armstrong directed the City Clerk to check it with our liability policy.
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The City Clerk read a letter from May, Zima & Company in regard to the
proper uses of the anti-recession monies. It stated that the use of
this money for updating the municipal code is allowable.
Attorney Gillespie commented that this would be a good expense because
the present code is very hard to work with. He agreed that this is one
of the most. important expenditures that Edgewater could make.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we instruct the City Clerk to make the
necessary forms and applications and procedures to allocate the anti-
recession money to have the code book brought up to date by the Municipal
Code Corporation, being seconded by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll call vote
said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
The City Clerk read a notification of the Florida Chapter of the American
Public Works Association meeting, February 24, in Orlando.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he really does not see any need attending this
meeting since we are not in the landfill business anymore.
No action was taken in regard to this.
The City Clerk read a letter from the State of Florida Department of
, Commerce Division of Employment Security in reference to Jack E. Walker.
It stated that according to their information Mr. Walker was discharged
for absence caused by illness. This is not a disqualification and the
City will be required to reimburse the Florida Unemployment Compensation
Fund for their share of any benefits paid in connection with his claim.
Councilwoman Webber stated that she feels that we should ask for a hearing.
There was discussion with the attorney about this. He stated that he does
not feel that this is worth fighting. He said that he has had very little
success on these matters. He added that he would not advise the Council to
go to court with this.
No action was taken in regard to this matter.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Building Official recommending that
the City adopt the current Building Valuation Data sheet from the Southern
Building Code January 76/77 edition.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we table this and have copies made for
each of the Council members so they can study it and that this be turned
over to the -Building Code Board of Adjustments for their recommendation,
being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion
CARRIED, 5-0.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mrs. Alice Murphy in regard to the
variance granted to Mrs. Helen Lovell, and in regard to the statements
made by Mr. Millard and Mrs. Lovell about her.
Councilman Dietz stated that this letter is an opinion not based on facts
and it should be placed in the file on the upcoming case with Mrs. Murphy
as a reference because it is her opinion only.
Mayor Armstrong stated so be it.
The City Clerk read a letter from the Board of Adjustments in regard to
Mrs. Murphy, explaining that at their meeting February 15, 1977 the board
voted to ask for Mrs. Murphy's resignation.
Mayor Armstrong told Attorney Gillespie that he might have to lean on him
for a little help.
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Attorney Gillespie stated that he is prepared to advise the Council on what
he feels is the legal position of this City Council in regards to this serious
problem. He stated that he has done a certain amount of research. He explained
that we must recognize that the City Council has a board of citizens constituted
by the Ordinance that have been given authority by the City Council to adopt
rules and regulations to govern their procedures and it is to be presumed that
this board is complying with the laws of this City and carrying out its pro-
cedures. They have voted based upon their own rules that a member of their
board is not complying with their rules, and are requesting that that member
be removed. He added that this is a serious matter of removing a citizen from
a board that the Council had appointed that citizen to. The code provides clearly
that you appoint these members to the boards and you appoint them for a specific
term and you don't have any right arbitrarily as a Council to remove those mem-
bers from that board. He stated that the code reads that members of the Board
of Adjustments may be removed from office by the City Council for cause upon
written charges and after a public hearing. It is up to the Council to deter-
mine whether this citizen has violated certain standards established and should
be removed and whether or not there is reasonable cause and belief that that
person is not properly performing the duties the Council appointed the person
to. He explained that the citizen has a right to be notified of the charges
against that citizen and he is entitled to a formal hearing by the Council and
the Council is entitled to hear all of the evidence before it is required to
make a decision. He added that he thinks this should be done very carefully
step by step.
Councilman Dietz suggested that this hearing not be on a regular meeting night.
Attorney Gillespie stated that he feels that a couple of weeks notice to the
parties involved would only be fair. He also stated that the legal officer
of the City should conduct this hearing so that only facts will be heard and
the citizen will be spared some feelings. He added that whoever is the attorney
at this time he is going to make certain that the hearing is properly conducted
and the rules of evidence are followed.
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Councilman Sikes questioned if the Board of Adjustments needs to have the services
of an attorney would Attorney Gillespie be available?
Attorney Gillespie stated that the City Attorney would be present in the capacity
to present the evidence of the board to the Council, who is sitting somewhat as
a judge and jury.
Councilman Sikes asked if we should suspend this board member pending the out-
come of the hearing?
Attorney Gillespie stated that the Council has no power to suspend the individual.
Councilman Dietz asked Attorney Gillespie, since Ordinance 880 is going to be
revised, would he recommend that this be toned down a little because of this
situation and the problems we can get into from a belligerent member of a
board?
Councilman Riggs stated that instead of taking up time at this meeting,let's
set a date for this hearing and take care of it all then.
Attorney Gillespie stated that there shouldn't be any prejudice involved in
this type of a hearing. You should just try to get the facts.'
Councilman Riggs made a motion that we set the public hearing for Wednesday,
March 16 at 7:30 P.M. in the Community Center, being seconded by Councilman
Dietz.
Attorney Gillespie explained that the individual should be notified formally
of these charges and of the hearing date.
Upon roll call vote on the previous motion, said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
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The City Clerk read a meeting notice of the Policy Committee of the Vo1usia Coastal
Area Transportation Study on February 23, 1977 at 1:30 in the Courthouse Annex
Daytona Beach.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he plans to attend.
The City Clerk read a letter from Attorney Gillespie in regards to his
resignation which is to be effective immediately upon theCounci1 finding
new Council.
Councilman Sikes asked Attorney Gillespie if he would consider representing
us in the two cases that we have pending, Ihe Pat Wilson case and the case
of Ledbetter and Opal vs. the City.
Attorney Gillespie stated that he feels that the City should give their new
attorney the opportunity to determine whether or not he would want him to
continue on in that capacity. He explained that the law suit is not going
to take a long time to try, however he will be available to work as an
associate attorney with whomever the Council hires. He urged the Council
to look into finding another attorney as soon as possible.
Councilman Dietz stated that each Council member should do a little research
and come up with recommendations to the Council.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the records should show that we accepted this
but have taken no action at the present time.
AUDIENCE MISCELLANEOUS:
Mr. Gross was given the floor. He questioned the Council about what has
been done in regard to the letter that he presented to the Council about
the Chamber of Commerce.
Attorney Gillespie stated that the proper way to go on this is for the City
to ask the Attorney General whether or not the same standard applies to
Edgewaters If the Council desires he can request such an opinion from the
,Attorney General.
Councilman Sikes asked if we charge the Chamber of Commerce for the use of
the room, what will we do to the Boys Scouts, the Fire Department, the
Garden Club, the Edgewater Civic Association, and all of the others who
meet in this building? .
Attorney Gillespie stated that this question would be answered by the Attorney
General, and this should be weighed before we ask for his opinion.
Councilman Dietz stated that if Mr. Gross wants to make formal charges against
the City, then we could go into it for research, but until formal charges are
brought against the City he feels no action should be taken because this building
was not built by City funds it was built by volunteer labor and given to the
citizens of Edgewater to use as they see fit.
Attorney Gillespie explained that if you ask for an opinion you should abide
by it.
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Mr. Lodico spoke to the Council about the different contributions that the
Chamber of Commerce has been making and he does not understand why people
want to pick on them.
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RESOLUTIONS:
RES. NO. 703
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REGARDING A VARIANCE FOR CERTAIN
DESCRIBED PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REPEALING
ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
THEREFOR.
Attorney Gillespie read the above Resolution in full.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion to adopt the Resolution, being seconded
by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
RES. NO. 704
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REGARDING A VARIANCE FOR CERTAIN
DESCRIBED PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REPEALING
ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH ANDPROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
THEREFOR.
Attorney Gillespie read the above Resolution in full.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion to adopt the Resolution, being seconded
by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
RES. NO. 705
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING AND APPOINTING MARIE S. NICHOLS AND FRANCIS
DIETZ AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA TO THE VOLUSIA
COUNTY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, REPEALING ALL
RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion to adopt the Resolution, being seconded
by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
ORDINANCES:
Mayor Armstrong explained that in regard to the following Ordinance, we
do have a time limit, and it must be enacted by March 1st. He explained
that this Ordinance should be handled as an emergency.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we waive the second reading of this
Ordinance so to meet the March 1st deadline, being seconded by Councilman
Sikes. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
ORD. NO. 968
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA LEVYING AND IMPOSING UPON
ALL INSURERS NOW OR HEREAFTER ENGAGING IN OR CARRYING ON THE BUSINESS OF
INSURING WITH RESPECT TO CASUALTY RISKS AN EXCISE OR LICENSE TAX IN
ADDITION TO ANY TAX NOW LEVIED OF 1% OF T~ GROSS AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS
OR ALL PREMIUMS FROM CASUALTY INSURANCE POLICIES INSURING PROPERTY WITHIN
THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, AND PROVIDING WHEN
SAID TAX SHALL BE DUE AND PAYABLE.
Attorney Gillespie read the above Ordinance in full.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adopt the Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
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OLD BUSINESS:
Councilman Riggs stated that he would like the Council to consider getting
rid of some of the old equipment sitting out at the garage.
The City Clerk read from the list of items that Councilman Riggs is talking
about, and it was decided what to do on each one of the items.
It was decided to have the bids returned by April 4th on all of the items
that we are going out on bids for.
Mayor Armstrong explained that he spoke to Mr. Martine and Mr. Wilcox about
, purchasing the concrete pipe, and what they came up with. He stated that
we are talking about $12,000 or $15,000 worth of pipe. It will have to be
on bids, and we can set the minimum with a unit price.
Councilman Sikes asked Mayor Armstrong if he feels that we will save at this
time because of the situation about 40%?
Mayor Armstrong stated that he feels that we will save 75%.
There was more discussion about what size pipe we need.
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Councilman Riggs made a motion that we advertise for bids on the pipe, being
seconded by Councilman Dietz. The bids are to be returned 14 days after
publication. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
The City Clerk read a letter in regard to the Proposed Organization of a
Florida Community Development Association.
There was discussion on this that there may be some grant money in this for
the City and perhaps we should belong. It was agreed that we should try to
get the information that we need on this.
The City Clerk read a letter from Briely, Wild and Associates informing the
City of their recommendation concerning the proposed construction over
lateral 4-C-l located north of 322 North Ridgewood Avenue.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he hates to see the man spend money on something
that may be eliminated altogether. -
Councilman Dietz stated that this was all explained to him. This is the
recommendation of the engineers and the man understands it and he is willing
to pay for it, then we should not hold him back.
Councilman Sikes stated that this man should make a request in writing to
the City and then we can act on it. He made a motion that we write a letter
to this man and advise him to make his request in writing, being seconded by
Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
The City Clerk read a bill from Attorney Gillespie in the amount of $1,168.00
for 29.2 hours.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to pay the bill, being seconded by Councilman
Riggs. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. 5-0.
Mayor Armstrong explained the situation with the roof of the Community Center.
He explained that it is a badly needed repair. He explained that New Smyrna
Sheet Metal has bid the job for $1,350.00. The electrical work needed will
be additional cost to ~he City. He also read the bid for removing the old
roof on the lower level and hauling it and install a new roof, install new
flashing light, remove and reinstall air conditioning unit for $925.00.
He read the bid for installing a gutter on lower level, use existing down
spout for the sum of $170.00. Mayor Armstrong explained that this has
been giving us some problem for a long time.
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Councilman Dietz asked if this could be considered an emergency and
waive going out for bids?
Councilman Riggs made a motion that we go ahead and get this work done
before we end up putting a whole new building up, being seconded by
Councilman Dietz.
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Attorney Gillespie stated that the Council needs to determine that this
is in the nature of an emergency and act first on that. He explained
that the minutes should reflect that you first determined that this is
something that can not wait for the procedures of submitting it to bids.
That it isin the nature of an emergency and if you don't act now then it
will cost the City substantially more money.
The motion and the second were withdrawn.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that the Council consider this an emergency
situation and proceed accordingly to make the correct repairs as submitted
by the bid received from New Smyrna Sheet Metal in the amount of $2,445.00,
plus any addition work that has to be done to replace bad wood, being seconded
by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the next item is a request for a fire hydrant
by Coronado Paint.
Councilman Dietz stated that in order for Coronado Paint to meet the new
fire standards in the State of Florida had to put in a sprinkling system
and it has to be fed by a 611 line, so what it really is is a fire plug,
but instead of being hooked to a fire plug, it is hooked directly to the
building and will be used for nothing else. He stated that he would like
the Council's approval to put this on the same basis of a fire plug where
he would pay $50.00 per year.
Councilwoman Webber asked if Mr. May is agreeable to this?
Councilman Dietz stated that he is. He explained that the line is already
there, we had to put it in, but now we have to figure our how to charge for
it. He also explained that this will not be used only in the event of a
fire.
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Mayor Armstrong stated to Attorney Gillespie that the Ordinance says that
the City Council has the right to enter into a contract with large users
of water. He asked about us entering into a contract with Mr.May in regards
to this matter.
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Councilman Sikes stated that we could put a meter on it, the meter wouldn't
run and we would only collect $2.75 a month.
Attorney Gillespie stated that he feels that the City could enter into a
contract with Mr. May on this.
Councilman Dietz made amotion that we instruct the attorney to draw up
the contract, being seconded by Councilman Riggs.
There was further discussion on this. Upon roll call vote said motion
CARRIED, 5-0.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have a P.B.A. contract, which stipulates
some holidays and sick leave and our Ordinance differs from this and we
need our Ordinance brought up to date.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that we instruct the attorney to draw up
the appropriate Ordinance, being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon
roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
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MISCELLANEOUS:
Councilman Sikes stated that he would like to bring up that somewhere within
the next 30 to 60 days Broward County will be advertising Grade-All tractors.
They have about five of them. He explained that a friend of his bought two of
them last year for $2500.00 and did minor repairs and used them for over a year
and sold them for $7500.00. It might be wise to keep up with this, and think
about it.
Mayor Armstrong agreed with Councilman Sikes about this being something to
look into.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he spoke with the City Clerk about this, and he
feels that the problem with the speaker system is due mostly to the fact that
it is taken down and put up so often. He stated that perhaps if it was set
up on the stage and not taken do\'m so much it woul d work better. He stated
that he will volunteer his time to rearrange it himself if it is desirable
to the Council.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we go ahead and get this done, being
seconded by Councilman Riggs. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED, 5-0.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we need to set a meeting to go over our retirement
program.
There was discussion as to how we want to go about this and whether we want
different agents in on the discussion.
Mayor Armstrong explained that each Council member should do some research
on this and talk with someone who is knowledgable in this matter.
It was agreed that we will bring this up again next Monday.
The City Clerk explained that we have a check in the amount of $400.87 to
be used on the docks at the boat launching area from the Salt Water Fishing
Association of Southeast Volusia County.
Mayor Armstrong explained that he will get in touch with the Salt Water
Fishing Association and set up a Project to spend this money on. He stated
that we should write' them showing our appreciation of this money.
Discussion began about insurance on the dump trucks. It was agreed that we
should have $250 deductible, comprehensive and liability on these trucks.
Councilman Dietz stated that we all received a letter from Mr. Kuyk. Please
read it before our next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by Councilwoman
Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MINUTES TAKEN BY:
Sue Bl ackwell
Debbie Sigler
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GENERAL FUND:
City of Edgewater WW & SS
Southern Bell
Florida Power & Light
Williams Welding
Southern Aire
R.E. Morris
Atlantic Office Supply
INA
Industrial Office Outfitters
Edgewater Red & White
Diversified Electronics
Ropp's Automotive Electric
J.E. Tumblin Agency
Ryta F. l~ebber
So. Bldg. Code Congress
WATER AND WASTEWATER:
City of Edgewater WW & SS
Sout he rn Be 11
City of Edgewater Gen. Fund
Edgewater Mfg. Company
A-l Rent All
Sears Roebuck & Company
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
February 21, 1977
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City Hall, Shuflbrd., Com. Ctr.
Fire, Street
Street Lights, Traffic light
Street
Com. Ctr.
P.D;
City Clk.
Insurance
City C 1 k .
City Ha 11, P.O.
E.V.E.R.
P.O.
Workmen's camp and audit
VCATS ~1eeti ng
Building Official
29.85
11 2 .64
2,133.59
33.98
37.90
61.07
265. 15
2,841.00
49.99
5.35
592.69
16.00
3,279.00
10.00
15.00
9,483.21
Water
Water
Water and Wastewater
\~a s tewa ter
Water
Wastewater
5.50
55.28
210.00
16.40
31.20
77 .50
395.88