04-08-1976 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA
REGULAR MEETING HELD
I/PI-li 8, 1976
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong called the regular meeting of the City Council of the
City of Edgewater, Florida to order, Thursday, March 8, 1976 at 7:30 P.M.
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ROLL CALL
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
Councilwoman Ryta F. Webber
Councilman William H. Cairnie
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
Assistant City Attorney Jim Davis
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Police Chief Earl Baugh
INVOCATION
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilman Sikes made a motion to accept the minutes of the March 25th meeting,
being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he was absent.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to accept the minutes of the March 29th meeting,
being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he was absent, Mayor Armstrong voted NO.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to pay the bills, being seconded by Council-
woman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
COMMUNICATIONS
Certification of Posting
The City Clerk read a letter from Bruce Briggs, Executive Director of the
Volusia Council of Governments, requesting that one of the City's Planning
Board members be appointed to the Intergovernmental Advisory Committee by
July 1, 1976.
Councilman Dietz stated that since we don't have a full Planning Board we
should hold on to this until we do, and the board should pick their own
representative.
Mayor Armstrong stated that it would be a good idea to advise Mr. Briggs
that we will comply with this before the deadline date of July 1.
The City Clerk read a letter from Larry Jones, Donna Pagnucco and family
commending Officer Westfall for services he rendered to them while on vacation
and in Edgewater.
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Councilman Cairnie made a motion that we give our thanks to Officer Westfall
for the duty he performed and that a copy of this letter be put in his per-
sonal file, being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said
motion CARRIED.
The City Clerk read a letter from Harold G. Francis, Secretary, Volusia League
of Municipalities in regard to placing items on their agenda.
Mayor Armstrong stated that this is for information and it should be kept on
file so that if we have a matter to put on the agenda we will know when and
where to send it.
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr. Martens from the Board of Governors
stating that they undertook the task of cleaning out the rain spout gutters and
repairing the roof over the ladies rest room in the Community Hall. They also
cleaned out the rescue squad room which eliminated a fire hazard.
Mayor Armstrong stated that this should be acknowledged and there will be some-
thing in the files on this.
The City Clerk read a letter from Joseph E. Weaver resigning as City Attorney
of the City of Edgewater.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that the resignation be accepted effectively
as of the dateof his letter, being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll
call vote said motion CARRIED.
The City Clerk read a letter from Thomas C. Kelly, County Manager in regard to
a meeting with all cities in regard to the 201 and the 208 planning programs.
Mayor Armstrong stated that Mr. Kelly had informed him that he was going to
call this meeting in January, however this is a little late since we have
already entered into a Resolution of intent to participate and we have auth-
orized our engineer to represent us in the 201 program. He suggested that
this be tabled until Monday night when the engineer will be here and we can
Tape l-A discuss this with him.
15 min.
Councilman Cairnie asked if the Mayor didn't feel that some member of this
Council should attend this meeting, and not just the engineer?
Mayor Armstrong stated definitely, and he thought we appointed Mr. Dietz to
represent the City at these meetings and bring back to us reports on it.
He added that hearing no objections we will table this until Monday night
when we can discuss it with our engineers.
-The City Clerk stated that the next item is two recommendations from Mr. Pro-
vancher, Safety Inspector. One to the Water Plant in regard to barricades
and flagmen.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the City was commended for having our house in order.
His recommendation to the Council is since we have a small metal building at the
City Barn could be moved reasonable close to the building to put up all grease
and so forth.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that we instruct the Street Department to utilize
the small metal building over there for storing products, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
The City Clerk read a letter from Steve Hardock, Secretary, Treasurer of the
Volunteer Fire Department, requesting $1,500.00 toward the purchase of the
fireworks for their Bi-Centennial Festival for the Fourth of July.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the Council has heard the request, they have com-
mitted themselves to $3,000.00 for fireworks.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he does not understand why they did not ask the
Council before they committed themselves.
Councilman Dietz stated that he feels that it would be proper to table this
until we get our financial report for the month of March, which is a six months
period.
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Councilman Sikes asked the City Clerk what amount we committed to the Bi-
Centennial Committee?
The City Clerk explained that $1000.00 of this was for fireworks, $150.00
was for an annual ad, $200.00 to the Bi-Centennial.
Councilman Dietz stated that we still don't know that we have the money for
this, and he added that he would like to make a motion that we table this
until we get our March financial report.
Paul Walls spoke to the Council on this, stating that the Council was fore-
warned about the Bi-Centennial about two years ago. He stated that the Fire
Department have been spending money themselves on the truck and on the new
building so they need help on this.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he appreciates what the Fire Department does,
however he agrees with the motion that we should take a second look at this.
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25 min. Councilwoman Webber seconded the motion. Upon roll call vote said motion
CARRIED
The City Clerk stated that the next item is a letter from Larry Kelly,
Chairman, Volusia Council of Governments, informing the City Clerk that she
has been put on the Finance and Personnel sub-committee. This does not re-
quire any action it is for information.
The City Clerk read a letter from John Sidor, Jr., Department of Community
Affairs in regard to a workshop on collective bargaining at the Court of
Flags Resort Hotel in Orlando on April 13, and 14.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he feels that the City should be represented on
Tape l-B this. He stated that if the Chief is available he could go to this.
Chief Baugh stated that he is still going to school.
Councilman Sikes stated that he feels that perhaps the Mayor and Vice Mayor
should go, because two people could come back with more information than one.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he doesn't think two people from the Council should
go because they can not go together.
Councilman Sikes stated that all the Council members went up to Ormond Beach
and they all took different cars.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that the Mayor and Vice Mayor attend this meeting
all expenses for luncheon and mileage be paid by the City.
There was more discussion about this, and whether two Council members could go
together.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we will decide Monday night who will go.
Councilman Sikes motion died from the lack of a second.
The City Clerk stated that the next item is a letter from the State Attorney.s
office.
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10 mi R.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he attended a meeting
was organized to take careof consumer complaints.
explained at the meeting, which is the meaning of
that we will be hearing about this very soon.
The City Clerk read a letter from John W. Manuel III, Executive Secretary,
Volusia County Charter Review Commission announcing a meeting at 7:30 in the
Council room of the Courthouse Annex on New York Avenue in Deland, on April
21,1976.
in regard to this. A staff
He reported on what was
this letter. He explained
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The City Clerk read a letter from J. R. Patrick, Jr., Chief, Compliance
Section, United States Environmental Protection Agency notifying the City
of Edgewater that they are in violation in regard to the NPDES permit.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he believes that we turned this over to
Mr. Fernandez to check out.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we table this until Monday night and
we get the report from Rick.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he would like to report on this. He stated
that a sample was made on the 6th, New Smyrna was hesitant about making
Tape 1-B the chemical analysis, but we did send it to Port Orange and they are very
15 min. graciously doing it for us and as soon as they get their report back, Rick
Fernandez will pick it up and complete the entire report. So this is being
taken care of.
The City Clerk read a letter from Charles H. Little for Claude L. Greene,Jr.
United States Department of Agriculture in regard to interim financing.
Councilman Sikes stated that the prime rate is down right now.
He made a motion that we contact the local banks and report back at our next
regular meeting
Discussion began on this in regard to what F.H.A. was suppose to do on this.
Mr. Beve1stated that some time ago the Council put aside money from the Revenue
Sharing and one time there was as much as $90,000 held for this interim financing.
He asked if any of this money remains in the Water and Sewer fund which would
_ help alleviate the amount of money to borrow?
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20 min. Mayor Armstrong stated not to amount to anything. He said that we are going
to have to borrow on the material involved in the project, and so forth which
will be in the amount of $100,000. He explained the various costs involved.
Councilwoman Webber asked Mr. Sikes if we asked a bank to put $438,000. aside
for us, we would just pay interest on the part that we are using?
Councilman Sikes stated that you can ask them to give you a committment on
a certain loan based on perhaps maybe $100,000 for the first six months and
the balance for the next six months, they can do that and they can say that
they will do that but negotiate the other monies at the prime rate, but you
would only pay interest on the amount of money that you would need. Of course
if you have a committment from a bank that they will loan you money, you won't
really need to borrow that money until the contractors is ready for his first
payment.
Councilman Dietz stated that we got a letter from F.H.A. saying that they would
pay this off in three or four installments. Why should we have to borrow only
a certain portion of it and they will pay these installments and then we just
keep renewing that amount?
Mayor Armstrong stated that this was one of his questions when all of the
authorities were here.
Councilman Dietz stated that he will second Mr. Sikes motion that we go ahead
and get a committment from some bank for this amount of money at a negotiable
Tape 1-B interest rate and see if we can go from there.
25 min.
Councilman Sikes asked the attorney if there would be a conflict of interest
since he is the Vice President of Southeast Bank of New Smyrna, even if we
would come out with the lower bid, for the City to borrow money from the
Southeast Bank of New Smyrna.
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Attorney Davis asked in what manner the bid would be obtained?
Councilman Sikes stated that this will be negotiated by letter form by the
Finance Director and City Clerk in the same manner that it has been over all
of these years prior to his being on the board.
Attorney Davis stated that his suggestion to avoid the possibility of the
conflict of interest, that Mr. Sikes not personally be involved in voting
on the negotiation and let the Council do whatever they wish.
Tape 2-A Councilman Sikes withdrew his motion, Councilman Dietz withdrew his second.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we instruct the City Clerk to seek com-
petitive interest rates for an open committment on $430,000 at the lowest
interest rate guaranteed by the F.H.A. committment, being seconded by
Councilman Cairnie.
Mr. Taylor asked if it isn1t true that there are letters on file in City Hall
stating that the banks don1t want any part of this?
Mayor Armstrong stated that this is not true. The letters did not indicate
an actual interest rate that they would loan the money for, they did indicate
that they would have to go to a joining bank in order to be able to finance
that amount.
Mr. Taylor stated that we were told over and over again by F.H.A. that they
would loan this to us at 5%, and now we are paying at the very banks that
wouldn't come in at the beginning.
Councilman Sikes explained that the F.H.A. would be a direct loan from the
government. The banks knew that they would be doing the City an injustice
if they had in their contract that they could get it at 5% rate, so they
weren't overly eager to loan it at 7~% rate knowing that the City could get
it according to the contract at 5%. Why should we pay 7~% when we could get
it at 5%?
Mr. Walter Gross stated that he would like the City Attorney to look into the
law in regard to no City franchising business with any company while a member
of the Council is connected with that company.
Attorney Davis stated that to his recollection it would have to be some owner-
ship involved, but he would be glad to research this if he is constructed.
Mr. Bevel spoke to the Council in regard to this, stating that before the loan
would come through, it required that we had to prove to F.H.A. that we could
not obtain money at 5% locally, therefore the banks gave us letters to assure
that we could not borrow the money at that low interest rate. The banks were
not trying to say that they were not interested in it, they were trying to help
us.
Mrs. Murphy asked why we could not go back to F.H.A. and find out why they are
not loaning us the construction loan at 5% like they said they would?
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5 min. Mayor Armstrong assured Mrs. Murphy that before the City Council pays an additional
$7,000 or $8,000 for construction money they will know why. He also explained
that it is true that the banks were trying to help us by giving us these letters
so that we could qualify this 5% loan. He stated that the man from F.H.A. told
us that if we could not get the local money to do it, we will finance it for you,
however this is nowhere in the forms.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Councilman Sikes abstained from voting.
The City Clerk told Mr. Sikes that she has a form for him to fill out.
Councilman Sikes stated that he thinks that he is going to make the recommenda-
tion that even if our bank was to loan it at 5% that we not loan it.
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The Ci ty Cl erk read a 1 etter from John Wharton resigning from the
Planning Board.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he would ask that the Council consider that there
are some personalities implicated in this and he would not ask that it be ac-
cepted as it is, however accept the last paragraph as his resignation.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to accept the resignation, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
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10 mi n. RESOLUTIONS
RES. NO. 650
A RESOLUTION SETTING THE NUMBER OF POLICEMEN, EMPLOYEES, AND OFFICERS
SUBORDINATE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE POLICE FORCE OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, FLORIDA.
Attorney Davis read this Resolution in full.
Attorney Davis stated that by researching the Charter it is clear to him that
the City set by Resolution the number of personnel, however it does not speci-
fically require that the personnel be hired and fired by Resolution. The Chief
should be allowed to hire and fire as part of his executive function, which
would save the Council a lot of time and money.
Councilman Sikes stated that we are still setting a limit on the Department,
and if we had some type of crime outbreak we could not hire extra officers?
Attorney Davis stated that Section 57 makes a provision that in the event of
a riot or emergency, additional officers can be hired.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion that we adopt the Resolution, being seconded
by Councilman Dietz.
15 min.
There was more various discussion in regard to this.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Councilman Cairnie voting NO.
RES. NO. 651
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AS CO-ORDINATOR
FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, REPEALING ALL
RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
Attorney Davis read this Resolution in full, leaving the blanks as they are.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to table this Resolution until after the reading
of the Ordinance setting up this Co-ordinator system, being seconded by Council-
woman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Mayor Armstrong voting NO.
25 min.
ORDINANCES:
ORD. NO. 950
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS EVERY MONDAY NIGHT AT
7:30P.M., PROVIDING FOR A REGULAR MEETING PLACE, REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN
CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
Attorney Davis read the second reading of this Ordinance in full.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
ORD. NO. 951
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE ASSESSMENT OF ONE DOLLAR ($1.00) AGAINST EVERY
PERSON CONVICTED FOR VIOLATION OF A MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE, OR STATE STATUTE,
HOWEVER, EXCLUDING VIOLATIONS RELATING TO THE PARKING OF VEHICLES, ASSESS-
MENTS SHALL BE IMPLEMENTED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT EDUCATION AS AUTHORIZED IN
CHAPTER 74-386, LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
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Tape 2-B Attorney Davis read the second reading of this Ordinance by title only.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being seconded by
Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
ORD. NO. 952
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A CO-ORDINATOR SYSTEM FOR THE CITY OF EDGEWATER,
FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF CO-ORDINATORS,
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PRO-
VIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
Attorney Davis read the second reading of this Ordinance by title only.
Councilwoman Webber made a motion to adopt this Ordinance, being seconded
by Councilman Dietz.
Mr. Bevel asked if we are going to decide who is going to coordinate what before
this is voted on?
Mayor Armstrong stated that this is an Ordinance only establishing the coordinator
system, and what it is doing is changing the form of government.
Mr. Bevel stated that if any member of the Council has the feeling that some
Ordinance or Resolution or any matter of business being conducted by the Council
is not legal and sits there and does not inform the rest of the Council of this,
he is just as guilty as the rest of the Council for going along with it.
Mayor Armstrong stated that if he goes along with an illegal act with full know-
ledge of it he thinks that he is just about as guilty. He added that this
changes the form of government, and it is subject to a referendum and to be
filed with the Secretary of State before it is effective.
Councilman Dietz stated that we are still going to have a Mayor-City Council type
of government. What we are doing now is organizing the confusion, instead of
everybody going around telling the employees what to do, there will be one in-
dividual telling one department. and they are to report back to the Council.
He asked the attorney if this is correct?
Attorney Davis stated that he did not draft this Ordinance, he has not been asked
to render a legal opinion as to whether it complies to 1020, and he can not give
an opinion on that right now. However he agrees with the mayor, if it does in
fact change the form of government, it has to be subject to referendum, if it
does not change the form of government it should not be sent to referendum.
He added that he is not going to render an opinion without having a chance to
research this.
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Councilman Dietz stated that if we do not do this we will have to hire a City
Manager.
Mayor Armstrong stated that there is no legal reason that the Council can't
direct the department heads to run their departments.
Councilman Dietz stated that the department heads are complaining now that
there are too many people telling them what to do.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the Charter says that the City Council shall bring
their suggestions and recommendations to the Council table to make their de-
cisions, and direct the Mayor to tell the other what to do.
Councilman Cairnie stated that there is a motion on the floor and he would like
to make an amendment to that motion that we hold this up until our attorney has
an opportunity to research it. Said motion died from the lack of a second.
_ Mayor Armstrong spoke to Section 3 of the Ordinance where the department head
and the coordinator is allowed to spend up to $1,000.00 in the case of an
emergency. He said that the Charter reads that the City Council is the only
one in Edgewater that declare an emergency. These things conflict with the
Charter and this changes the type of government, which should be up to the people.
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Mr. Taylor asked why such a hurry, why can't we get an opinion from the
attorney about this?
Councilman Dietz stated that there should not be any question about this,
Mr. Weaver made a complete check about this and his opinion was given to
us, and also Attorney Hall said that it was legal. It costs money to get
each of these attornies' opinions. If Mr. Davis comes back with a contro-
versial opinion, we aren't going to know who to believe then.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Councilman Cairnie and Mayor
Armstrong voting NO.
ORD. NO. 954
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2-25 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, BY INCREASING THE SALARIES OF THE MAYOR AN ADDITIONAL
$100.00 PER MONTH AND EACH COUNCILMAN(WOMAN) AN ADDITIONAL $100.00 PER MONTH,
REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
Attorney Davis read the first reading of this Ordinance in full.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that this Ordinance be tabled until after
we get the six months financial report, being seconded by Councilwoman
Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
OLD BUSINESS
Tape 2-B
15 min. Attorney Davis read an oplnlon in regard to the EVER organization in which
he stated that it is his opinion that the proposed Ordinance would not con-
flict with the Florida Statute 166.021, and does not fall within any of the
categories requiring approval by referendum:
Mayor Armstrong stated that he is still not convinced that by creating a new
department in Edgewater that it will have to be a line item and it is not in-
cluded in budget appropriations for the fiscal year that we are operating
presently under and he sees no reason why that we shouldn't be considered
by the people. There is no funding in it as far as the local government
line item budget appropriations are concerned presently and this is his
opinion of the Charter law.
Councilman Dietz stated that there will be no expense to the City for the
first year, and how could this be in conflict with any appropriations?
This has nothing to do with the budget, because there is no money involved
in it. It is just a matter of record of putting it on as the City recog-
nizing them and then next year it would be a line item which the City would
set forth in its budget.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he is not opposed to the Emergency Rescue Squad
however he is opposed to the legality of it based on the fact that we are
creating something new that is not in the Charter, and he feels that the
people should have a right to determine their own destiny.
Councilman Dietz asked the attorney for his opinion again.
Attorney Davis stated that he can not see that this particular Ordinance fits
into any of the categories which would require a referendum, and it can be
25 min. legally enacted if the Council so wishes, as a policy determination.
Councilman Sikes asked Mr. Bevel about the insurance?
Mr. Bevel explained that he spoke with the City's record of agent about the
insurance, and he explained their findings. He stated that they have not
purchased the insurance as yet, however they plan to, and they would pay for
the insurance up to the time the City's new budget comes in. He also said
that it does not cost the City anything to find out whether they are of any
value to the City and if not, then the Council can vote to get rid of them
and the City still hasn't spent any money. He stated that they have approx-
imately $700 in their treasurery.
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Tape 3-A Mayor Armstrong stated that there is still a technicality that is not clear,
the fact is that EVER is presently operating under a separate Charter of their
own. If we are going to put this in our Charter it has to be done in compliance
with House Bill 1020.
Councilman Dietz stated that the attorney just got finished saying that it would
be.
Mayor Armstrong stated that it will have to be put in our Charter and it has to
be filed with the Secretary of State. All of our amendments to the City
Charter are filed with the Secretary of State, all of the amendments that we
have made since that are not filed with the Secretary of State that we have
on file in City Hall there is not one of them that isn1t null and void when
it comes to the technicality of law.
Councilman Dietz asked the City Clerk if she notifies the Secretary of State
of all of these Ordinances, and if they have ever been notified?
The City Clerk answered no, that she has been here three years and it has not
been done.
Councilman Dietz stated that all we have to do is send them a copy of what we
have now, and that would be the simple way to do it.
Mayor Armstrong stated that there are a number of amendments that have never
been filed with the Secretary of State and are not effective.
Mr. Harmon asked the Mayor why he wants to use the Rescue as a scrapgoat to
cover up all of these others? He stated that the Mayor said that he is for
this, yet he is fighting it tooth and nail.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he resents this, he has the law to go by.
Mr. Christy spoke to the Council in regard to the Fire Department not being
put on a referendum. He explained that the City of Edgewater actually owns
the Rescue through the Civil Defense because that is the way it was passed.
. He stated that this is the only City that is trying to kick out something
that the public needs.
Councilman Dietz stated that we have questioned this and we asked the attorney
for an opinion, he rendered his opinion, and you (mayor) indicated that he
would abide by that opinion.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he did not indicate that he would abide by his
opinion, he stated that he has the upmost confidence in this attorney, how-
ever as it has been said before it is only the opinion of another attorney.
Councilman Dietz asked why do we keep spending this money for attornies'
opinions when we are not going to listen to them?
Mayor Armstrong stated that he does not oppose this organization or what
they are doing, however why do they object to putting this on a referendum
and putting it in the Charter?
Mr. Bevel stated that right now we have the capability of having a certain
number of individuals, which can be changed if we were part of the City.
Also they can go out and buy insurance, however they can be helped just by
10 min. being part of the City.
Councilwoman Webber asked the attorney if this group is allowed to solicit
funds the way they have been doing?
Attorney Davis stated that he can not answer this because he has no way of
knowing how they have been soliciting funds.
Mr. Bevel explained the way they have been raising funds, glvlng blood pres-
sures, selling articles donated to them, having a rummage sale, and so on.
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Councilwoman Webber asked the attorney if he would consider this practicing
medicine without a license?
Attorney Davis tried to answer this.
Mr. Bevel explained that the people involved in this were State certified
Emergency Medical Technicians, and all that was done was within the limits
of their training. All that was administered was first aid.
Mayor Armstrong asked if taking a persons blood pressure and telling them
that it is high or low or normal is first aid.
Mr. Bevel stated that if he was to tell them that their blood pressure is
such and such that is first aid, and if he tells them that they should see
their doctor and have him check their blood pressure, that is doing his job
as a EMT, however if he tells them that they have high blood pressure and
they should get some medicine that is wrong and out of line.
Tape 3-A
15 min. Councilman Sikes made a motion that we instruct the attorney to draw up an
Ordinance bringing the Edgewater Volunteer Emergency Rescue Inc. into the
City to be discussed at our next meeting, being seconded by Councilman Dietz.
Mr. Bevel stated that he would like to know what the objections are so that
perhaps he can straighten out some of the feelings against it.
Mr. Walls spoke commending the volunteer work being done by this rescue.
Upon roll call vote said motion DIED. Councilwoman Webber, Councilman Cairnie,
and Mayor Armstrong voting NO.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he will commit himself that if the Council wants
to instruct the attorney to draw the Ordinance subject to a referendum at the
next election he will support it.
Councilman Sikes stated that the written opinion of the attorney reads that
in his opinion this Ordinance will not conflict with Florida Statutes.
Councilman Dietz asked if we could call a special election?
Mayor Armstrong stated that he doesn't think it warrants calling a special
election. He stated that the next order of business is a report on a street light.
25 min.
Councilman Sikes stated that he checked on the street light and there is a light
in the park area down near the river, and due to the trees the light on the street
does not give the lighting as it should on the houses. There is a pole there that
does not have a light on it.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the light was taken out due to complaints from the
residents.
After discussion, Councilman Sikes made a motion to relocate the light at the
end eastward to the next pole, being seconded by Councilman Cairnie. Upon roll
call vote said motion CARRIED.
At this time the tape in the recorder was not picking up the way it should and
various conversation and discussion was missed.
The Council discussed the Class C operator applications which have been received.
It was decided that the applications would be given to the engineer on Monday
night for review and his recommendation.
Tape 4-A The Council discussed the Meter reader applications. It was decided that the
Mayor is to call Mr. Fredericks in for an interview.
There was discussion about the water department handing out the water bills.
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Mayor Armstrong stated that the next item is the Planning Board By-Laws.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that the by-laws be tabled until the full
board is in effect. being seconded by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED.
The next item is appointments to the Planning Board~
The City Clerk explained that there are some people who are interested
but have not filled out applications. She listed the names that she had.
10 min.
There was some controversy as to how these appointments are to be made.
Mayor Armstrong explained that his appointment and Mr. Sikes appointment
was lost and they should appoint a member from their zones.
Councilman Dietz stated that the Council shall approve the members that go
on a board, not an individual.
15 min.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that this be tabled, and that we check
Ordinance 902 and 943, being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Armstrong stated that the next item is from the attorney in regard to
a court case, Corbett Smith.
Attorney Davis explained that he obtained the file on Corbett Smith about
a week ago, however he has not completely researched it. He explained that
at present there is in effect an order directing that the City issue the
occupational license to Mr. Smith or appear on the 24th to show cause why
they failed to do so. His recommendation from examining the City code in
regard to occupational licenses there are no restrictions to issuing such
a license, everyone is required to have a license. He went into detail
explaining this situation as he understands it. He suggested that we go
ahead and issue the license and proceed with the enforcing of the zoning
that we have. He also recommended that the Council take some positive
action on this on the 19th of April.
25 min.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to that effect, being seconded by Council-
man Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
There was various discussion in regard to the junk yard business. and where
one can be located.
Tape 4-B
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Armstrong stated that under old business he would request that the
City Council authorize the attorney to draw the necessary paperwork accepting
the resignation of Joseph E. Weaver, and the terminating of the Ordinance
which he was employed under. also the contract that we have individually
with Mr. Weaver.
5 min.
The discussion went back to the license for Mr. Smith allowing him to put
in a junk yard. It was brought out that just because we issue him a license
we are not allowing him to put in a junk yard where he wants to put it, he
will have to abide by the present zoning.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that the Council authorize the attorney to
draw the necessary paperwork accepting the resignation of Joseph E. Weaver,
and taking care of the termination of the Ordinance which he was employed
under, being seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion
CARRIED.
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NEW BUSINESS
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have a request for a real estate license at
508 South Ridgewood Avenue.
Councilman Dietz stated that if we refuse to give him a license we are going
to get into the same trouble that we did with Mr. Smith.
Tape 4-B
10 min. Councilman Dietz made a motion that we approve this
Attorney Davis spoke to the Council in regard to this explaining that it
may not be exactly the same as the Smith case. However the simpliest thing
is to go ahead and issue these licenses, and then if there are violations
of the zoning this will have to be enforced.
Councilman Dietz repeated his motion to grant the request, being seconded
by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Armstrong stated that we have a request from Judge Mann about adopting
an ordinance to assess prosecutor's charges to defendant upon conviction.
Attorney Davis spoke on this, and he answered various questions from the
audience.
There was quite a bit of controversy in regard to this not being fair to
the defendants.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that the request from Judge Mann about
the adoption of an Ordinance to assess prosecutor's charges to defendant
upon conviction be drawn up. There being no second to the motion, said
motion DIED.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he was asked if the City was interested in
purchasing the property north of the tennis court. No price was mentioned.
He stated that together with the riparian rights and so forth, it would be
worth more to the City than anyone else, and propably worth nO,more than
$5,000.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to let the man know that we are interested
if the price is right, being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we authorize the Chief of Police to do
away with the time clock in his department, being seconded by Councilwoman
Tape 5-A Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS
At this time discussion went back to the Resolution which was previously
tabled.
Attorney Davis explained that he did not draw up the Resolution and he does
not know the intention of the Council as to how the blanks are to be filled
in. He stated that he could read the Resolution and have the blanks filled
as the Council wishes. He asked what department the Mayor is to take?
Mayor Armstrong stated all departments.
Attorney Davis asked Councilwoman Webber.
Councilwoman Webber stated that the Police Department has indicated that they
would like her to be their coordinator.
Attorney Davis asked Councilman Cairnie.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he has no choice, after all the others are
filled in he will take what is left over.
Attorney Davis asked Councilman Sikes.
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Tape 5-A
5 min.
Councilman Sikes stated that he does not know anything about water and sewer,
and his job would not allow him to walk around with the superintendentof the
Street Department so there are only two the Parks, Recreation or the Administra-
tion. He added that he is familiar with office management and could take the
administration if it wouldn't enfringe on the Mayor's duties.
There was some confusion at this point, and Attorney Davis stated that there
seems to be some disagreement as to what departments presently exist in the
City of Edgewater.
The City Clerk explained that in the past it has been divided as Water and
Sewer, Street, Garbage or Public Works, Administration, Parks, Recreation
and Library and this now covers the boards and the Community Center, Police
and Fire.
There was more confusion and the attorney stated that all he is trying to do
is complete this Resolution.
Councilman Dietz stated that he could be put down for Water and Sewer. He
stated that this was an Ordinance which was passed by the Council and now
we are obligated to go along with the will of the Council, Mr. Mayor and
Mr. Cairnie.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he was just told that the suit will be filed
tomorrow challanging the Ordinance we passed, and he doesn't think that
he can be directed to commit an illegal act. He stated that he is obligated
to the people of Edgewater in all departments.
The attorney intervened at this point, stating that he still has a few blanks
on the Resolution.
Councilman Dieta stated that it is up to the Council to make the decisions
as to who is to take what and if the members fail to fulfill their obliga-
tion then there will have to be other action taken.
Councilman Cairnie agreed to take the Parks and Recreation.
Councilman Dietz stated that the only department left is the Street Department
and there is only one blank left.
Councilman Sikes stated that if there is any question about his taking the
administration he would be willing to take the Parks and Recreation.
The attorney explained that he still does not know where the other department
is to go.
Councilman Dietz stated that the Streets and Garbage will have to go to the
one that is open, which is the Mayor, whether he wants it or not is his pre-
rogative, but that is the one that is left.
Mayor Armstrong stated that he would like to call Mr. Dietz' attention back to
a little while ago when he was accused of pulling the wool over his slower
thinking partners. He read further from a newspaper article, that a petition
was circulated to remove Mr. Dietz from office.
There was confusion and controversy at this time, Councilman Cairnie broke in
and made a motion to adjourn.
Councilwoman Webber stated that she attended the Zoning meeting the other night
and we had discussed that we would have two members of the Zoning Board, two
members of the Council, and two members of the Chamber of Commerce to go over
the Sign Ordinance. They made a tentative date of the 21st, which is the same
night of the Charter Revision. She stated that it would be nice if all of the
Council attended this.
A date was set for this meeting on the 28th.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we table until Monday night the Resolution
until the attorney has time to draw up the Resolution in its proper form, being
seconded by Councilwoman Webber. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
15 min.
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ADJOURNMENT
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by Councilman
Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MINUTES TAKEN BY
Sue Bl ackwell
Debbie Sigler
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GENERAL FUND
City of Edgewater General Fund
Oasis Car Wash
City of Edgewater WW & SS
. Flori da Power & Light
Southern Bell
J. E. Tumblin
New Smyrna Beach News
Governmental Guides, Inc.
Publ ic Gas
Taylor Brothers
Mac Smith Equipment Co.
Frank Hall Plumbing Co.
Burns Janitor Service
Gator Automotive Parts
New Smyrna Builders Supply
Goodyear Service
Southern Paint
Magnolia Motor Co.
Smyrna Auto Parts, Inc.
National Fire Protection Assoc.
Gasoline Alley
New Smyrna Chrysler Plymouth
Industrial Office Outfitters
National Chemsearch
Diversified Electronics
Hughes Supply
WATER AND SEWER
City of Edgewater WW & SS
Florida Power & Light
Miami Herald
Southern Bell
News Journal Corp.
Smyrna Auto Parts
New Smyrna Builders Supply
Stover
Dobbs Armature & Pump Service
Birch's Cycle Shop
Badger Meter
Hughes Supply
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BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
fltl?/L 8, 1976
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Petty Cash
P.O.
Street, Ballpark
Fire, Ballpark, Multi-games
City Hall, P.O., Fi re
Insurance
Council
City Clerk
Street
P.O.
Street
Com. Ctr.
Com. Ctr.
Street
Fire
Street, Garbage
City Hall
Street, Garbage
P.O., Street
Bldg. Official
P.O., Street
P.O.
Finance Director, Misc.
Street
P.O., Street, Fire
Street
48 85
16:00
12.65
127.66
187.76
706.00
8.40
6.00
12.83
50.00
4.80
11.36
13.70
57.88
351.74
240.21
8.16
143.66
45.78
33.39
24.50
6.83
205.08
203.30
67.25
2.10
2,595.89
Sewer
Water and Sewer
Water and Sewer
Sewer
Water and Sewer
Water
Sewer
Sewer
Sewer
Water
Water
Water
6.60
360.86
45.00
18.58
15.48
6.91
16.58
9.20
247.00
35.30
408.92
130.55
1,300.98