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CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA
REGULAR MEETING HELD
OCTOBER 23, 1975
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The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater
was called to order by Mayor David C. Severance, Thursday,
October 23, 1975, at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Mayor David C. Severance
Councilman Jacob Lodico
Councilman William H. Cairnie
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
City Man~gerDale Bryant
City Attorney Joseph E. Weaver
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Acting Chief McCall
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INVOCATION
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to approve the minutes of the
regular meeting of October 9, 1975, being seconded by Councilman
Lodico. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
Councilman Lodico made a motion that the bills be paid as read
being seconded by Councilman Cairnie. Upon roll call vote said
motion CARRIED.
PRESENTATION
Tape 1
Side A
15 min.
Mr. Rick Fernandez gave a report on his meeting with the Director
of the Orlando Regional Department of Environmental Regulations
regarding water and sewer extensions in Florida Shores.
Mr. Fernandez spoke to the Council in regards to the bids received
for the water and sewer expansions. He stated that there are
three alternatives: (1) the do nothing alternative, which at
this time we are meeting the minimum acceptable requirements
(2) We could go along with plans from the County, and construot
a pumping station rather than treating the sewage, we could send
it to New Smyrna to be treated. This would be of an expensive
cost to the City of Edgewater and their residents. (3) The City
could file an amended application with F.H.A. for an additional
$200,00 in loan funds.
Mr. Fernandez stated that he feels that the City has receiv~d
good bids for the project and it is in the best interest to
proceed with both of these projects. He stated that he is
recommending that the fol~owing action be taken: (1) that the
Council authorize the Mayor to sign the application to request
the additional funds from F.H.A. (2) that a tentative award be
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Tape 1
Side A
20 min.
made to American Consolidated, subject to the following; bond
validation completion, review and acceptance of the equipment
schedules submitted by American Consolidated.
Councilman Dietz question the grid handling facility which was
included in the bid.
Mr. Fernandez stated that he is not recommending the construction
of the grid handling facility at this time.
Mr. Cliff Cunningham stated that the total existing debt that the
City of Edgewater now owes in accordance with the Ordinance that
was validated and the bonds issued is 2 million 304 thousand 22
dollars and 29 cents, ($200,304,022.29) less $94,476.99 which has
been paid this'year. He explained that $400,626,972.00 is the
old plus the proposed new debt. Mr. Cunningham further explained
his report to the Council, reading the schedule that he worked out.
Tape 1
Side B
Councilman Sikes asked Mr. Cunningham if we would ever be in the
position a few years from now to receive a loan at 5%?
5 min.
Mr. Cunningham stated that this has been reviewed and it is our
opinion that you could not go to the bond market and sell bonds.
He stated that one of most successful marketers of municipal bonds
reviewed your ordinances and your financial statements, and he
said that there is no way that we can market bonds with the City
of Edgewater. There is a requirement that your revenues have got
to be less your operating expenses have got to be 1 1/2 times
more than your maximum annual debt service, which is in the
neighborhood of $95,000. He stated that in his opinion, the
City Council would be making a grave mistake to pass up 5% money
today.
Mr. Cunningham stated that he heard the man give indication that
he could find another $200,000 for the City of Edgewater, and his
recommendation is that you validate the $700,00 and request the
additional $200,000.
Councilman Sikes questioned the power the County has over the City.
He asked Mr. Cunningham what would happen to this debt in the event
the County comes in and takes over the water system?
Mr. Cunningham stated that from what he understands that if the
County came in and took over your system, they would probably
absorb the debt also.
C~uncilman Sikes asked if we do not construct this plant, the
County has the right to come in and require that we hook up to
the New Smyrna plant.
Mr. Cunningham stated that as he understands the New Smyrna plant
has been designed as a regional plant. If you do not have your
system to meet with the Federal Agencies, they will tell you where
you will hook up, and it would be his guess that you will continue
to pay your debt and also absorb their debts.
10 min.
Councilman Cairnie asked where the money is coming from for all
the additional fees, such as construction cost, bond attorneys
fees, our own attorney's fees, engineering fees,cost of clearing
the land.
Mr. Cunningham stated that this is in the report and it is all
estimated.
15 min.
Councilman Lodico stated that our water rates will only go up
about 26~ more than they are now.
Mr. Cunningham spoke again to the Council about the bond market.
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Tape 3
Side A
o min.
Questions were answered from the audience.
Mr. Gross asked how could the people of Edgewater be asked to
co-sign for such a debtedness.
Mr. Cunningham explained that there are no liens on any property
in Edgewater, therefore, the people are not co-signing anything.
Mr. Fernandez stated that we are meeting the State requirements
at the present time which is 90% discharge, however if you want
to increase your flow it will require more advance treatment.
Mr. Fredericks asked howlongwill our rates stay at 15%?
Mayor Severance stated until 1981, according to the amortization
schedule.
Councilman Sikes stated that so that there will not be any mis-
10 min. understandings, this 15% is based on now rates and cost of
chemicals and labor, now if the cost of these chemicals and
labor goes up, it could require another increase.
Mr. Cunningham stated that this is correct,however a 9% cost
of labor, etc was figured in.
Mrs. Murphy questioned whether any other engineer was involved
in this schedule.
It was explained to her that the City only employed their
engineers to handle this.
20 min. Mr. Armstrong spoke to the Council on this, and he asked the
reason for going from a floating up digester to an air rated
system.
Rick Fernandez stated that this is more desirable for use be-
cause of sludge being much easier to handle and also you have
less operative problems, there is less overfeeding.
Mr. Armstrong asked if with this new plant, are we going to
be able to get parts easily, or are we going to have obsolete
equipment which we can not replace?
Tape 2
Side B
Mr. Fernandez stated that we will be able to get replacements.
There is a warranty period for almost all of the equipment.
Mrs. Webber stated that when the bids were opened, Mr. Fernandez
said that we would be very foolish not to add in the grid handling
facility, and she asked if he is saying now that we don't need it?
Mr. Fernandez explained the operation of the grid handling facility,
and he stated that this is not critical to the process of the plant
and he stated that he did not feel the bid was a good expense at
this time for the City.
5 min.
Councilman Dietz asked Mr. Fernandez to read his recommendation to
the Council.
Mr. Fernandez repeated his recommendation as he stated earlier in
the meeting, explaining that the equipment list should be checked
very closely.
LO min.
Mrs. Woodard asked what areas of Edgewater will benefit from the
water and sewer plans?
Mayor Severance stated that the entire City of Edgewater will bene---
fit.
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Mr. Fernandez explained the future plans for the Florida Shores
area in regard to the sewer expansion.
15 min. Councilman Dietz made a motion to table this until Monday night,
October 27th when we can call a special meeting to give us all
time to digest what we have learned, and to make our decision
that night, being seconded by Councilman Lodico. Upon roll call
vote said motion CARRIED.
At this time there was a five minute recess.
COMMUNICATIONS:
Certification of Posting
The City Clerk read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Robert Taylor, to
Mayor Severance, commending him for his actions while Mayor.
Tape 4
Side A
City Manager Bryant read a recommendation from the Merit Board
requesting pay increases for the following: Elizabeth J. Crouser
from Clerk lIE to Clerk II F, Calistus Dalrymple from Laborer III
C to Laborer III D, Sandra Davis, from Dispatcher I D to Dispatcher
I E, Richard Dobson from Equipment OperatorI C to Equipment
Operator I D, Susan Janda from Clerk I D to Clerk I E, Stephen
Kelley from Patrolman D to Patrolman E, Normal Mc Call from
Lt. C to Lt. D, Paul Ream from Laborer III C to Laborer III D,
Samuel Vickers from Operator I C to Equipment Operator I D.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to accept the recommendations of
the Merit Board, being seconded by Councilman Lodico.
Councilman Lodico asked who recommends these raises?
Mayor Severance stated that the City Manager and the supervisors
are the ones who recommends the raises.
5 min.
Councilman Dietz stated that we just passed a budget with a 5%
and a 2 1/2% increase built in, and we over spent our last years
budget, someplace down the line we are going to have to stop
something, and he stated that he feels that this should be
held up a little.
Mayor Severance stated that we did anticiapte a 5% increase for
all city employees, and not all of the employees are'going to
ee recommended for a raise.
Councilman Dietz stated that he is not against these raises,
just at this time, because we just gave the employees a 2%
increase.
Lt. Mc Call stated that the other workers have already got
10 min. their raises and they got the 2 1/2%, and the workers who are
coming up now for increases are going to have to wait another
year now before they can get their raises?
Councilman Dietz stated that we are not talking about people
who have Just come here, we are talking about people who are
making good money now.
Lt. Mc Call explained from his own point of view, he has been
here eight years, and a patrolman who Just got his step raise
of one year is now making more money than he is.
Councilman Dietz stated that we have to pick individuals, not
just go by steps.
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Councilman Sikes stated that the City employees are what makes
the City, and if we are going to cut we should cut somewhere
else.
Mr. Gross stated that he feels that our standard salary in the
City of Edgewater is way lower than what it should be.
Mr. Mackie stated that if this was estimated and appropriated
in the budget what is the problem?
Mayor Severance explained that it was appropriated for, however
what Councilman Dietz is speaking of is the over expended from
last year which is going to come out of this budget.
15 min. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Councilman Cairnie
and Councilman Dietz voting NO.
City Manager Bryant rea~ a recommendation from the Zoning Board
in regardto granting a variance to Mr. James R. Craig.
Mayor Severance stated that he would entertain a motion from
the Council that this request be forwarded to the Board of
Adjustments.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to that effect, being seconded
by Councilman Lodico.
Mr. Mackie explained that this came up to the Zoning Board
and they sent the recommendation to the City Council because
they had been criticized about sending people to the wrong
places, so they decided to send this to the City Council for
them to send to the correct board.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
City Manager Bryant read a report from the Edgewater Bicentennial
Committee, explaining different activities to be undertaken.
25 min.
Mayor Severance spoke that the bicycle path is the only item
in the report which will require being funded, and perhaps this
should be looked into further.
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Side A
Councilman Sikes made a motion that we authorize the Mayor to
sign the document setting us up as a Bicentennial City, based
on the recommendations from the committee's report, excepting
therefrom that part pertaining to the bicycle path, being
seconded by Councilman Lodico. Upon roll call vote said
motion CARRIED.
RESOLUTIONS:
RES. NO. 604
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A WEATHER STATION
IN COASTAL VOLUSIA COUNTY AND RECOMMENDING THAT LOCAL GOVERN-
MENTS ADOPT SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS, REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN
CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
City Attorney Weaver read this Resolution in full.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that this Resolution be adopted,
being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon roll call vote said
motion CARRIED.
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ORDINANCES:
ORD. NO. 941
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE BUILDING CODES OF THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF CODES AND
AMENDMENTS THERETO, FURTHER PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF
GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND INSTALLATION OF PUMPS AND IRRIGATION
SYSTEMS, FURTHER PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFORE.
City Attorney Weaver read the Ordinance by title only.
Councilman Lodico made a motion to adopt this Ordinance,
being seconded by Councilman Cairnie.
Councilman Dietz questioned if the changes were made about
the flood control and that all changes will be adopted
automatically unless recommended otherwise?
Attorney Weaver explained where these changes are made.
Upon roll call vote said motio n CARRIED.
Attorney Weaver stated that he would delay codifying this into
a book until we have a record of how it is going to work.
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Side B
5 min.
ORD. NO. 942
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE 940 FOR THE
PURPOSE OF RESTRICTING APPLICATION OF ORDINANCE 940 TO THE
SILVER RIDGE SUBDIVISION, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND RESO-
LUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
THEREFORE.
City Attorney Weaver read the Resolution in full.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to adopt this Resolution, being
seconded by Councilman Lodico.
Mrs. Webber questioned if this was completely legal or if it
is spot zoning.
Attorney Weaver stated that this is not spot zoning.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Severance explained that these Ordinances will come up for
second reading after the new Council comes in.
OLD BUSINESS:
City Manager Bryant read a schedule of the costs for repairing
the sewer lines on Flagler Avenue. Mr. Bryant also stated that
he concurred with the engineer in regards to this.
10 min.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we instruct the City Manager
to proceed with the repair of this line and that the Resolution
be drawn up for the withdrawal of the money from the Renewal and
Replacement Fund to pay for said costs, being seconded by Council-
man Cairnie.
Councilman Sikes asked if we shouldn't place load limits on some
of these streets.
There was quite a bit of discussion in regards to different roads
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in Edgewater where a load limit should be posted.
Mr. and Mrs. Turner spoke that Thomas Street needs such protection.
Mayor Severance stated that Mr. Bryant could check into the
Thomas Street area.
Upon roll call vote on the motion to proceed with the sewer line
repairs on Flagler Avenue, said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Severance stated that the next item is the Merit Board
job descriptions.
Councilman Lodico made a motion to table this until the new
Council takes over, being seconded by Councilman Dietz. Upon
roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Mayor Severance voting NO.
20 min.
Mayor Severance stated that the next item is the Pointer Subdivi-
sion, which we discussed at the workshop.
City Attorney Weaver stated that the only thing the City can do
is ascertain if the buildings are in accordance with the set-
back requirements, and we should not get involved with the
property line disputes.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we table this until we
get the information that we are waiting for, being seconded
by Councilman Lodico.
25 min.
Mayor Severance asked the City Attorney, if while we are waiting
for this paperwork to be prepared, would a motion be in order
that we stop any future permits until we receive this certification?
Attorney Weaver stated that we could receive this information
in a days time.
Tape 4
Side A
Mr. Hall spoke to the Council that this should have been looked
into before the man was allowed to build one house out there.
Councilman Sikes stated that we had every reason to believe that
he was abiding by the setbacks because of the inspector.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Mayor Severance stated again that he feels that the building
permits should be held so that another violation is not made.
Councilman Dietz stated that if we stop this man from building
he may have some kind of legal recourse, and we don't want to
get into that kind of trouble.
Mayor Severance stated that he is not satisfied because of the
different surveys, and if he builds more homes, and if the Council
determines that they are in violation, that home comes right down
to the ground.
Councilman Dietz stated that he should be put on notice that this
action will be taken if he is in violation.
5 min.
Mayor Severance read a letter which was written to Mr. Me Gough
in regard to this.
Mayor Severance still stated that he feels that no more building
permits should be issued for that area, because if one is in
violation now and he builds more it is going to cost him a lot
to tear them down and rebuild or whatever.
Attorney Weaver stated that it is not necessary to stop the
building permits, put the burden on them.
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Councilman Dietz made a motion to put Government Builders on
notice that the City of Edgewater has had numerous complaints
about the setbacks and the surveys made on the construction of
the homes that they are proceeding with in the Knapp Avenue
and Perdita Street area in Pointer Subdivision, and if these
violations prove valid, there will be no certificate of
occupancy issued, being seconded by Councilman Cairnie.
10 min.
There were several comments from the audience in regard to
the building permits being held up so that this is not done
again before we get the permits checked.
Upon roll call vote on the motion, said motion CARRIED. Mayor
Severance voting NO, stating that he still feels that they
should not be allowed to start something else that might be
wrong too.
Mayor Severance stated that the next item is freezing all
raises for one year.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he would make this a motion to
throw it out for discussion, beiqg seconded by Councilman
Dietz.
Councilman Dietz stated that he feels if a man earns a raise
he should get it, but the idea of moving everyone up by steps
he does not agree with.
15 min.
Mayor Severance tried to explain that the Merit Schedule of
steps and grades was set up for better control and consistency
in giving raises, it is already set out for you to look on the
schedule and recommend the raise. Also the steps are arranged
so that the people with more responsibilities and duties are
set on the schedule at a higher level.
Upon roll call vote said motion DIED. All Councilmen voting NO.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that Lt. Mc Call will get $50.00
extra a month while performing the duties of Chief as acting
Chief of Police and that this be retroactive back to the time
that he was appointed Acting Chief, being seconded by Council-
man Sikes. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS;
City Manager read a request of Mr. Ross Sullivan for permission
to erect two signs on the roof of his building. Mr. Bryant
stated that this type of sign is not permitted under the
Zoning and he told Mr. Sullivan this. Mr. Sullivan changed
his request to signs to be placed on the sides of his building.
Councilman Dietz stated that they will still be on the roof.
25 min.
City Attorney Weaver stated that the Sign Ordinance has been
tabled, and the only present Ordinance we have on signs is
Ordinance 96.
Councilman Sikes stated that this man has gone to a lot of
trouble to fix up his building, and he is not going to put
anything up that is going to look cheap.
Mayor Severance stated that there is really no action that
the Council can take, as long as he complies with Ordinance
96. Mayor Severance instructed the City Attorney to notify
this man.
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Side B
Mrs. Webber asked if something could be put in the paper to
clarify the question that is going to be put on the referendum.
Councilman Dietz stated that we can instruct the City Manager
to take note of what Mrs. Webber has written down and have
this put in the New Smyrna Beach News.
There was more discussion about the houses being built in
Pointer Subdivision.
Lt. Mc Call stated that we have a request from Mr. Dudley to
have one of our officers who is off duty to have a uniform
on and help direct traffic up at his grand opening. This
would be of no cost to the City, he will pay the officer
himself.
Councilman Sikes stated that you are not allowed to hire
policemen, unless you pay him overtime, and pay it to the
City.
5 min.
City Attorney Weaver stated that this is correct.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to direct Lt. Mc Call and the
City Manager to inform Mr. Dudley that the City will provide
the services that he requires and bill him for the cost,
being seconded by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call vote said
motion CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adjourn, being seconded
by Councilman Lodico. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MINUTES TAKEN BY:
Sue Blackwell
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BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
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ity of bdgewater WW & SS
outlJern bell
lorida Power & Light
. L. Polk & Company
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cotty's
ounty of Volusia
dgewater Red & White
ustom Signals, Inc.
avid N. Proctor
ndustrial Office Outfitters
ray Drug stores, Inc.
erox
la. Fir~ and Safety Supply'-
ity Auto Supply
a y lor Er 0 s. T ire D i st.
r:J.yrna Auto Parts
tan's Transmission, Inc.
. E. Tumblin
oseph E. vieaver
ATER AHD SEi.lER
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ity of Edge~ater WW & SS
outhern Bell
lorida Power & Light
ational Chemsearch
nvironmental Specialties
obbs Armature & Pump
riley, \-lild and Associates
adger Meter, Inc.
ew Smyrna Commercial Printing
merican Hardware
l.!1yrna Auto Parts, Inc.
& J Supply Company
all ~achine Works
i ty f..uto Supply
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