07-24-1975 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA
REGULAR MEETING HELD
JULY 24, 1975
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The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater
was called to order at 7:30 P.M., July 24, 1975, by Vice Mayor
Jacob Lodico.
ROLL CALL
Mayor David C. Severance
Councilman Jacob Lodico
Councilman William H. Cairnie
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
City Manager Dale N. Bryant
City Attorney Joseph E. Weaver
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Police Chief George R. Katez
Absent
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INVOCATION
SALUTE TO FLAG
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Tape 1
Side A
10 min.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to table the approval of the
minutes of the meeting June 26, 1975, being seconded by Council-
man Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to approve the minutes of the
regular Council meeting, July 10, 1975 and the special Council
meeting, July 14, 1975. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Dietz voting NO.
BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that the bills be paid as was
reviewed at the workshop, being secorlded by Councilman Dietz.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
COMMUNICATIONS
The City Clerk read a request from Miss Sandra Dutton to sell
Blair in Edgewater. The City Clerk explained that she needs
a permit.
Councilman Dietz made a motion that we give her a permit, being
seconded by Councilman Cairnie.
Councilman Sikes asked the City Attorney if a time limit should
be put on this?
City Attorney Weaver stated that the Ordinance does not have one.
Councilman Dietz questioned if this lady is going to be a permanent
representative shouldn't she have to take out an occupational
license and so on.
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City Attorney Weaver stated that when she is issued the permit
this should be handled, this way her permit will expire when
hereoccupationa1 license expires.
There was some discussion about whether other people are working
with permits and maybe they should have occupational licenses.
Councilman Dietz stated that this should be discussed at our
next workshop meeting.
Upon roll call vote on the motion to grant this lady a permit,
sajd motion CARRIED.
20 min.
The City Clerk read a letter from William L. Ross, Attorney for
Louis J. and Joyce Rotundo, regarding their lots in Silver Ridge
Subdivision, and whether they will be allowed to build on these
lots.
25 min.
City Attorney Weaver spoke to the Council about this, suggesting
that with the concurrence of the Zoning and Planning Boards this
can be put on the agenda for the Public Hearing which is scheduled
for changes in Ordinance No. 880, since there are several more
lots in that area with the same problem.
Councilman Sikes questioned if it would be quicker for Mr. Rotundo
to go to the Public Hearing, rather than thnough the boards directly.
City Attorney Weaver stated that it would, and this could solve
the future problems which might come up.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion that the Zoning and P1annings
Boards be contacted and with their concurrence, this be put on
the agenda for the Public Hearing, August 14, 1975, being seconded
By Councilman Sikes.
Mrs. Webber asked if this is part of the PUD deve10pmentJ
City Attorney Weaver stated that it is part of Silver Ridge, not
the PUD development.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
The City Clerk read the certification of posting.
RESOLUTIONS:
RES. NO. 584
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING ANDAPPOINTING THE FIRM OF FOXMAN,
WOERNER AND DAVIS AS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS FOR THE CITY
OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA WITH ALL THE RIGHTS, DUTIES AND RE-
SPONSIBILITIES SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR COMPENSATION
HEREIN ANDPROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFORE.
City Attorney Weaver read this Resolution in full.
Councilman Sikes made a motion to adopt this Resolution, being
seconded by Councilman Dietz.
Councilman Sikes asked if we are hiring an attorney or the firm?
City Attorney Weaver stated that we are hiring the firm.
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Councilman Cairnie stated that the Charter states that the City
may hire an assistant attorney, but nowhere does it mention that
the City may hire a firm.
Councilman Sikes stated that this will cost us nothing unless we
direct them to do something, in the event Mr. Weaver ean not
attend a meeting and one of these attornies sits in, Mr. Weaver
will pay him.
Mrs. Webber stated that this is not a good idea because these
men will not be up on our Ordinances and laws and so on, they
will have to research and this will cost us more.
25 min.
City Attorney Weaver explained that they will only be handling
certain project type jobs, and will be able to tell you legally
if something is right in regards to the meetings.
Mr. Armstrong asked if the Council indicated that they wanted
a pro tern City Attorney, and whose idea was it?
Councilman Dietz answered that it was the Council's idea, because
one night, Mr. Weaver was not able to attend a meeting due to a
trial, and it was very confusing.
Tape 1
Side 8
o min.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED. Councilman Cairnie
voting NO.
ORDINANCES:
ORD. NO. 934
AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1973 EDITION OF THE SOUTHERN STANDARD
BUILDING CODE, THE 1971 EDITION OF THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC OODE,
THE 1971 EDITION OF THE SOUTHERN STANDARD PLUMBING CODE AND THE
1973 EDITIONOF THE SOUTHERN STANDARD MECHANICAL CODE AND ALL
AMENDMENTS AND ADDITIONS THERETO AS ADOPTED BY THE VOLUSIA
COUNTY COUNCIL, TOGETHER WITH ALL ADDITIONS AND AMENDMENTS AND
REVISIONS THERETO AS MAY BE ADOPTED FROM TIME TO TIME IN THE
FUTURE: FURTHER PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES DEALING WITH
BUILDING, ELECTRIC, PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL THAT PRESENTLY
EXIST IN THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, SHALL BE ENFORCED
IF SAID ORDINANCES CREATE STANDARDS THAT ARE HIGHER AND MORE
STRINGENT THAN THOSE STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY ORDINANCES
AMENDMENTS AND REVISIONS AND FURTHER PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
THEREFORE.
City Attorney Weaver read this Ordinance by title only.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to table this Ordinance for
further study, stating that this is adopting the County, and
he has not read the County Codes, therefore we would be adopting
something we know nothing about, being seconded by Councilman
Dietz.
Councilman Cairnie stated that the fees of the County are different
and he understands that one of the builders, members of the board
has invited him to meet with the County Inspector, who will go over
the County Codes.
Councilman Dietz asked the City Attorney if it is not true that
we are adopting the Code with the amendments which we have made.
City Attorney Weaver stated that this is technically correct.
Councilman Dietz asked who sets the rates?
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City Attorney Weaver stated that the rates are the rates that
have been established in an Ordinance here.
Councilman Sikes questioned whether the County Inspector would
inspect for us if we have our own codes.
5 min.
Councilman Lodico stated that it was stated at the meeting with
the man from the County that it would be better if the City of
Edgewater adopted their own code.
Councilman Sikes asked if the County makes amendments to this
we accept the changes automatically.
City Attorney Weaver stated that we could then change our
Qrdinance.
10 min.
Mr. Loeffler spoke to the Council that if they go under the
County Codes, they will go under the County laws and they can
not change the County laws.
City Attorney Weaver stated that this is correct we can rescind
the whole code, but we can not change the County Code.
Mr. Armstrong spoke to the Council in regard to this, explaining
that Edgewater should have a seperate code, for qualifying and
for fees, where the County has one Code for all of this, and if
you adopt the County Code you are adopting their fees and so on.
Upon roll call vote on tabling this matter, said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Sikes voting NO.
OLD BUSINESS:
Councilman Sikes made a motion that the Jehovah's Witnesses be
granted a permit to canvass the City of Edgewater, being seconded
by Councilman Dietz.
Councilman Cairnie asked if this will be a permanent situation
without notifying our Chief of Police or City Clerk or someone?
15 min.
City Attorney Weaver stated that from the looks of the law on
this, the motion should remain a permanent thing.
Councilman Lodico spoke on this, stating his feelings toward
the American Flag and the constitution.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to hire Lyle Quick as the City
Judge and the City Clerk can draw up an Ordinance to that affect,
being seconded by Councilman Dietz.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
At this time City Attorney Weaver spoke to the Council in regard
to James Cartee's property in Florida Shores and whether he will
be allowed a building permit. There seemed to be some confusion
as to who owns the property, since it was at one time dedica~ed
to the City of Edgewater.
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Mr. Cartee stated that according to a Title Company, this
property was sold by Mr. Magnuson to an individual.
City Attorney stated that the way to dissolve this is for us
to give a Quit Claim Deed to Mr. Cartee. He stated that the
property manager and the City Manager could seeif this property
will serve any municipal purposes.
Mr. Cartee stated that the County says the City of Edgewater
does not own interest in this property, therefore it is up to
the City to prove that they own anything.
Mr. Armstrong spoke to the Council, stating that a tax deed
will answer any questions.
Mr. Cartee stated that he has a deed and he will bring it into
City Hall.
Councilman Sikes made a motion that this be tabled until we
get further information about the property, a tax deed, a
deed from owner to Cartee, being seconded by Councilman Dietz.
Mr. Cartee asked the City Attorney if he produces the deeds,
will the Council grant a building permit.
City Attorney Weaver stated that this will have to wait until
the next meeting for a motion on it.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
NEW BUSINESS:
Councilman Sikes made a motion that Mr. Bryant and Mr. Cairnie
be authorized to attend sessions on Solid Waste Disposal, in
the event that they not be able to attend some other member of
the Council will take their place, being seconded by Councilman
Dietz. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to appoint Mr. Bryant or his
designate to issue permits for canvassing, garage sales, trailer
permits, etc. until such the City Council can amend the Ordinance,
being seonded by Councilman Cairnie.
Mr. Armstrong asked what is meant by trailer permits?
The answer was construction trailers and the sort.
Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS:
Councilman Dietz stated that he has done a little investigating
on the xerox copies that are being made. He stated that the
Charter states that the bills and accounts and minutes and so
on shall be posted, however we are making extra copies to bring
to these meetings and this is running into a lot of money.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he has seen the papers lying around
after the meeting, and it is making a lot of work in City Hall.
City Attorney Weaver stated that we are posting in three places
now, and the law only requires two, this could help.
Councilman Sikes stated that he feels the public is entitled to
this and we should furnish the copies.
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Councilman Cairnie stated that he feels the public would be
better informed if the agenda was published in the newspaper
instead of waiting to come to the meeting to know what is
going on. He also stated that this should be discussed at
the next workshop.
Councilman Cairnie stated that he feels the tapes for the
board meetings should be discussed and looked into.
Councilman Dietz asked the City Attorney if these minutes
have to be on tape?
City Attorney Weaver stated that he doesn't think that they
have to be on tape, but that the meeting should become a
'public record.
Mr. Wharton asked the Council why the City mows the lawn for
one of the lots on Riverside Drive?
20 min.
City Manager Bryant explained that this is at the end of
Hardin Place, where he was instructed to do so by the Council.
Mr. Bryant stated that if the Council does not want this done
he will have the crews stopped, however he would invite each
of them to look at this area.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilman Cairnie made a motion to adjourn, being seconded
by Councilman Sikes. Upon roll call vote said motion CARRIED.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Workshop - August 11, 1975
Council Meeting - August 14, 1975
MINUTES TAKEN BY:
Sue Blackwell
Debbie Sigler
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GENERAL FUND
City of Edgewater,WW & SSe
Southern Bell
Florida Power & Light
Diversified Electronics
Ropp's Automotive
Southern Paint
Brown's Air Conditioning
Freeway Motors, Inc.
N.S. Chrysler-Plymouth
American Hardware
Magnolia Motor Co.
City Auto Supply
N.S. Commercial Printing
Gasoline Alley .
Smyrna Auto Parts, Inc.
Industrial Office Outfitters
R. E. Morris
Engel's
Cliff Bradley
National Chemsearch
Jack Cocke and Co.
Dwights Office Supplies
J . E. Tumb 1 in
NSB-Edgewater Humane Society
Fla. League of Cities
County of Volusia
City of NSB - P.O.
Rotundo Maintenance
Joseph E. Weaver
Councilman Cairnie
Mayor Severance,Lodico, Weaver
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BILLS AND ACCOUNTS
JULY 24, 1975
Com.C. ,F.O., C.Hall,Shuflbrd.
F.D., Street
Street, Traffic lites
C. O.
P . D. .
New garage
Library
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P.D. ,C.Hall,P & P. ,Com. C. Street
Street, Garb.
P.D., Street, Garb, P & P
Gen.Gov.
PD.
P . D., 's t r e e t
P.D., C. Hall
Stock
F . D .
Street
Street, Garb.
Street paving
P.O. , Gen. Sov.
Gen.Gov.
Humane Society
Gen. Gov.
Gen. Gov.
P.O.
Capital Improve.
City Attorney
league meeting and milage
League of Munic. meeting
Edge\'1ater Mfg. Co. Water and Sewer
City of Edgewqter WW & SS Water .-
Southern Bell Water
Florida Power & Light Water and Sewer
.Conrad Yelvington Water
American Hardware Water and Sewer'
Magnolia Motor Co. Water
Environmental Specialties Water
Smyrna Auto Parts Water
City Auto Supply \~a ter and Sewer
Curtin Matheson Scientific Sewer
Sampley Enterprises
(New Garage)
41 .25
101.80
2,257.92
47.93
10.70
84.82
59.63
20.83
2 . 1 5
38.76
114.87
165.70
20.75
1 2.00
65.78
28.03
1 5 . ~ 4
8.67
40.00
729.15
69.00
77.07
244.00
150.00
247.73
940.39
96.00
320.00
272.~0
9.60
18.00
6,310.17
13.40
5.50
40.23
1,525.25
29.82
31 .75
6.00
18.64
19.40
27.59
13.45
1,731.03
4,500.00