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REGULA!t MEETDJG OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGE\vATER"
VOllJSIA COUNTY" FLORIDA" HELD
JANUARY 18TH" 1965
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The Regular l1eeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater" Florida
was called to order by Mayor Dana T. Armstrong at 7:30 P.M. on January 18th,,1965.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
Councilman Carl A. Siller
Councilman Earl L. Tingle
Councilman William H. Cairnie
Councilman B. R. Ridgdill
City Attorney H. D. Mathas
City Clerk Helen W. Jones
Deputy City Clerk Marie Robinson
Police Officer Garner Fugate
Fire Chief Richard Hanson
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
The }unutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Council held January 4th" 1965
were presented to each Councilman for his ap~roval. Motion duly made
by Councilman Ridgdill these minutes stand approved as submitted" seconded
by C01.mcilman Cairnie and by vote CARRIED. The roll call vote was
unanimous.
BILLS & ACCOU}ITS
General Fund
Librar"'J
Gen. Gov't.
Police Dept.
Bldg. Offic.
Fire Dept.
City of Edgewater -Water Dept. Gen. Govt.
Florida Power & Light Street Lights
Street Dept.
Street Dept.
Recreation
Charley's Welding Shop Street Dept.
J. Rhett Mc}lillian" Jr. Police Dept.
Edgar BroE. Concrete Products, Inc. Street
Southern Bell Tel. & Tel. Co.
Smokey's Electric
Lloyd Cox Co. Gen. Gov't. Office Supplies
City of New Smyrna Beach Recreation
Hazel H. 11assey Library
Better Homes & Gardens Library
The Island Press Library
The Baker & Taylor Co. Library
Florida Fire & Safety Supply" Inc. Library
Fox-Sperry" Inc. (Firestone) Police Dept.
Rossner & Sons Garbage Dept.
Scudder's Service Station Police Dept.
Gulf Oil Corp!
City of ~dgewater Petty Cash Fund Gen. Govt.
Ray Hunt Ford" Inc.
Trlater Dept.
Southern Bell Tel. & Tel. Co.
Florida Power & Light Co.
Charley's ~Jelding
Lloyd Cox Co.
Addressograph - Multigraph Corp.
New Smyrna Plumbing Supplies" Inc.
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Motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie these bills be paid and be made
a part of the minutes, seconded by Councilman Ridgdill and by vote C~~RIED.
The roll call vote was unanimous.
OFFICERS REPORTS
The Librarian's ReDort for the month of December, 19h4, was read.
The Police ReTlort for the month of December, 1964, \'las read.
The Certification of Posting, dated January 5th, 1965, was read.
The Budget Report for the month of December, 1964, was read.
The Clerk's Cash Statement for the month of December, 1964, v~s read.
Hayor Armstrong expressed his appreciation to the Department Heads for
the finA reports.
CONl-JJNICA TIONS
A Ip~ter "'1as read from the Edgewater Chamber of COIPJllerce dated
January 7th, 19(5 re~lesting the City of Edgewater take out an advertisement
in their tx9 program f6:r' the installation banquet to be held February 11th.
A letter was read from ~~. Earl L. Tingle, C~Jncilman Zone 2, submitting the
name of Mr. Jacob Lodico, 302 N. Riverside Drive, Edgewater, Florida,
as a member of the Zoning Board to replace Hr. ~'jalter Hester whose
resignation was accepted recently.
A letter was read from Jack H. H~~n, dated January 5th, 1965, which
read as follows: It is my considered opinion that to resume my duties
as Chief of Police is not in the best interest of the citizens of Edgewater,
nor in my best interest. ~fuile I deeply appreciate the support that
has been previously shovm me, I feel that the underlying causes of
any difficulties that have arisen have not been cured by the recent
events. I therefore tender my resignation effective this date. (January 5th)
Motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie that \'le support the Chamber of Commerce
and take out a full page ad in the amount of~40, seconded by Councilman
Ridgdill and by vote CARIUED. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Before the roll call vote Councilman Siller asked the l~yor what part of the
budget this was coming from.
}~yor Armstrong said it would come from Emergencies ~ Contingencies.
Motion d,uy IP.ade by Councilman Siller that }<fr. Jacob Lodico be apr"ointed
to the Zoning Board, seconded by Councilman Cairnie and by vote CARRIED.
The roll call vote was unanimous.
Motion duly made by CotlncilIP.an Cairnie the resignation of Jack Hayman be accepted
\>Ii th regret, seconded by Councilman Ridgdill and by vote CAR11.IED. The roll call
vote being as follows:
Councilman Siller:
I said at the last meAting
I would sup~ort fully what
ever decision ~~. Hayman made
so I will vote Yea
I accept it with regret and vote
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Councilman Tingle
Councilman Cairnie
Councilman Ridgdill
Mayor Armstrong
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ORDINANCES
ORDINANCE NUNBER 429 TERMINATING SERVICES OF PRESENT POLICE CHIEF FOR THE
CITY OF EDGEWATER, VOLUSIA CCUNTY, FLORIDA, AND SETTING FORTH COHPENSATION
DUE FOR SUCH OFFICE TO TERMINATION DATE.
The above ordinance was read in full b:t City Attorney Vlathas and motinn
duly made by Councilman Cairnie this ordinance be adopted, seconded
by Councilman Ridgdill and passed by vote of the City Council of the City
of Edgewater, Florida, at the regula~ meeting of said council held
JanuarJ 18th, 1965. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Upon motion dtuy made by Councilman Siller, seconded by CouncilmanCairnie
the requirement of reading Ordinance upon second reading was waived and the
ordinance was ordered put into effect immediately at the Regular Meeting
of the said Council held on the 18th day of January, A.D. 1965 and approved
as provided by la11/. The roll call vote .'las unanimous.
ORDINANCE NUNBRB. 430 RESCINDING ORDINANCE NUlffiER 308 OF THE CITY OF
EDGS',:A TEll, FLORIDA.
The a.bove ordinance TtlaS read in full by City Attorney Mathas and motion
duly made by Councilman Cairnie this ordinance be adopted, seconded
by Councilman Ridgdill and passed by vote of the City council of the
City of Edgewater, Florida, at the regular meeting of said council held
January 18th, 1965. Discussion as follovlS:
Councilman Siller: This means that if we pass this ordinance the ordinance
we had in the past on examinations for electricians will no longer be in
effect. lJith this old ordinance we could coincide with other communities
so that their electricians could work in our city and our electricians could
work in their cities. If we pass this ordinance and have our ovm
examinations there is nothing that guar~~tees electricians in this city
that they can work in other cities.
Hayor Armstrong: If Ne'..... Srn;yrna Beach, Daytona Beach, etc. do not
recognize our exaI!'inations that is their .Q'erogative. ll..any cities have
cut out these examinations from the University. H. H. Block & Assoc.
was once with the University but now there has been a change at the
University.
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A letter was read from the Dean of the University of Florida concerning
the examinations.
Councilman Siller asked if our licenses would be valid in other communities
or just in this city.
Attorney l~thas said he couldn't say.
Councilman Siller said vie ,,'ould handcuff our electricians if we pass this
ordinance.
Vmyor Armstrong said he thought Daytona Beach '....as setting up its own system.
Mr. LaBonde, Building Official, said when we set up the tests,H. H. Block &
Associates was associated vuth the University of Florida. He also added
that Daytona Beach is the only city he knows of that sets up its o~m system.
He said he talked w~th ~rr. Robert Je~~ings this afternoon and he gave him
the name of a man in Tallahassee who is connected to the University, a
}rr. Blee, who has information concerning these tests.
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Councilman Siller said we should go into this a little further. We
should find out what other communities are doing. He shouldn't hand-
cuff the people in Edgewater.
1-11'. LaBonde said he could vrrite to the man in Talla..l1assee and find out about
the examinations.
Councilman Siller asked what we did before we had the University test.
~~. LaBonde said he gave the tests.
Councilman Cairnie said if New Smyrna Beach wants to recognize H. H.
Block & Associates that is alright. Let's worry about our city.
Councilman Tingle said vre vdll have a conflict with neighboring cities.
Councilman Siller said he didn't think there was enough work in Edgewater for
the contractors. I don't want to restrict them. He asked if other cities
would recognize our licenses.
~~yor Armstrong said if we recognize their licenses, they should recognize
ours.
Councilman Sillerhsaid by passing this ordinance we are authorizing
the city to giveV~~st. We will revert back to our old ordinance.
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Councilman Cairnie said the ordinance should be repealed.
l{r. LaBonde asked what he should do if someone comes in tomorrow for a
license. 1'Te have no ordinance on reciprocity.
Councilman Cairnie said we worked it out before.
V~yor Armstrong said we are only striking out that part of the ordinance
where the examination is prepared and graded by the University of Florida.
Attorney Mathas added that you are only striking out part of an ordinance
and not the complete ordinance.
The roll call vote on the ordinance was as follows:
Councilman Siller
I am not clear on this
so I will vote
Nay.
I do not understand
one, two and three so I will vote
Nay.
Yea
Yea
Yea 1;le should overhaul the
ordinance right avra;)T.
Councilman Tingle
Councilman Cairnie
Councilman Ridgdill
lvIayor Armstrong
Upon motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie, seconded by Councilman Ridgdill
the requirement of reading ordinance upon second reading was waived and the
ordinance was ordered ~lt into effect immediate]~ at the Regular Meeting
of the said C~lncil held on the 18th day of January, A.D. 1965 and approved
as provided by law. The roll call vote was as follows:
Councilman Siller
Councilman Tingle
Councilman Cairnie
Councilman Ridgdill
Mayor Armstrong
Abstain
Abstain
Yea
Yea
Yea
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Councilman Tingle said we have many people in Edgewater working in other
municipalities. We have to work together ~dth these communities.
}myor Armstrong said we are not running these people out.
Councilman Tingle said IvIr. Cairnie made a remark that he is not worrying
about neighboring cities.
~myor Armstrong said he sees eye to eye with these cities .dth the exception
of the electric power contract ;-lith Ne1'T Smyrna Beach.
Councilman Tingle thanked }fir. Hilton who v.Tote a letter to each councilman
in regards to a city manager.
11ayor Armstrong said he forgot about the letter and said it was not direc~d
to be read at the meeting. He thanked l~. Hilton for the letter.
Hr. David ;';iggins asked about the extension of ~"Iater Lines which was to be
done from the surplus in the sewer system.
l~yor Armstrong said he could give no information on this as it has not
been a~rroved by the Government. He said the door hasn't been shut.
lo'Ir. LaBonde asked what h":) was going to do about a man 1-forking that does
not have a rroppr licensp. He said he can not dplete from the law.
He said he wanted sppcific instructions on ,./hat to do.
Councilman Siller said if the man is vlOrking ,.Ii thout a license, ,qarrants
should be signed to arrest him for working without a license.
Councilman Ridgdill asked how one part of the law could be upheld and not
the other. This rr~n has the right to work and go by our City Charter. I
would say we owe him ~lOO.
Councilman Siller said the ordinance was in effect then. He said that the
council violated the City Charter by waiving part of an ordinance. Another
man took this test and got a passing grade.
Councilman Ridgdill said no one had a right to take the test as it was.
~myor Armstrong said the city thought H. H. Block & Associates was a part
of the University of Florida. The University of Florida was to prepare
and grade the tests that were taken.
Co'Uncilman Siller said that he could find no where in the charter where
a temporarJ license could be issued.
l~yor Armstrong said if he has wronged this man he is sorry. It seems
this man failed the examination and then went back and took the test
and it wasn't legitimate. They said he vias a good mechanic and ,,,e
should have a sppcial catagory for this.
Councilman Siller asked what Mr. LaBonde should do about this W4n working
~dthout a City License.
~fuyor Armstrong said if the man is violating the law it wo~ld be up to
~~. LaBonde to have him arrested. The 11ayor said he hoped the council
would be given time to work this problem out.
Councilman Ridgdill said if he were this man his first pretense would be
to sue the City.
l~. Richard Hanson questioned as to the difficulty with the previous tests.
}fuyor Armstrong said there is a conflict between the University of Florida
making and grading the tests and H. H. Block and Associates which was
previously associated with the University.
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RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION NUMBER fq APPOINTING JACOB LODICO TO THE ZONING AND PLANNING
BOA..B.D OF THE CITY OF T\DGEHATER, FLORIDA.
The above resolution was read in full by Attorney Mathas and motion
duly made by Councilman Siller this resolution be adopt~d, seconded
by Councilman Ridgdill and passed by vote of the City Council of the City
'of Edgewater at the Regular M~eting of the said Council held this 18th
day of January, A.D. 19A5. The roll call vote being unanimous.
RESOLUTION NillIBER 70 APPROVING Th'E PATI.fENT OF TIHE AND ONE-HALF
'JAGE;S FOR THE CITY OF BDGE',vATER EMPLOYEES :mo i-JERE ti:HPLOYED BEY:!EEN
THE DATES OF SEP'ffiMBE..'1. 18, lqA4 A~m OCTOBER 12, 1964 TO CLEAN UP
DEBRIS AND REPAIR DAMAGE CAUSED BY HURRICANES.
The above resolution was read in full by Attorney ~~thas and motion
duly made by Councilman Ridgdill this resolution be adopted, seconded
by Councilman Siller and passed by vote of the City Council of the City
of Edgewater at the Regular Meeting of the said Council held this
18th day of January, A.D. 1~h5. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Mayor Armstrong said this resolution was in compliance vQth the government
request that we show that time and one half was authorized by the City Conncil.
This is just to make it a matter of record.
Motion dul;y made by Councilnnn Cairnie i'Je accept the insurance policies
(Ins1Jrance Comnany of North America) as approved by :.he City Attorney,
seconded by Councilman Siller and by vote CAF..RIED. The roll call vote
was unanimous.
11ayor Armstrong said that Friday Night members of the Council discussed
cha~ter changes. Councilman Siller and Councilman Tingle were not present.
He said all of these changes are to be in the best interest of the City
and would be put to a vote of the electorate. Only the matter of Silver
Ridge would not have to be voted upon. Since all the council was not
present Friday, the Mayor suggested it be put off until Wednesday, which
was done.
Motion duly made by Councilman Siller that Mayor Armstrong be authorized
to instruct the City Attorney to file a suit for declaratory decree
vnth regards to the electric power contract in reference to legality
of contract we have with New Smyrna Beach, seconded by Councilman Cairnie
and by vote CARRIED. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Tom Groover of Briley, Wild & Associates, read a report on the sewer project
v'hich was dated January 18th, 1965. This report has been made a part of
the minutes.
~~yor Armstrong said we keep a record of all the sewer complaints. They
will be gone over thoroughly before the project is completed. He said
letters have been sent to Southern Gulf Utilities to speed things up
and again asked the engineers to see that they are notified again.
Hr. Groover said a letter has been sent to Southern Gulf Utilities
stating they will not be given an extension of time.
Hayor Armstrong said that ~:ednesday Night there would be a discussion
in referencp. to the kind of pipe to be used to connect to the sewers.
They have j1tst discovered there is another type of pipe, (Johns ~~nville)
which w01)ld be acceptable.
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There being no further business, motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie
this meeting be recessed until 7:30 P.H. on January 20th, 1965, seconded
by Councilman Ridgdill. There ;"lere no objections.
Hinutes takmb;r Harie Robinson. Time 8:55 P.M.
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