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REGUIAR MEETING OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGE~vATER,
FLORIDA HELD JANUARY 4TH, 1965
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The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater, Florida,
was called to order by Mayor Dana T. Armstrong at 7:30 P.M. on January 4th, 1965.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
C~lncilman Carl A. Siller
Councilman Earl L. Tingle
Councilman William H. Cairnie
Councilman B. R. Ridgdill
City Attorney W. D. Mathas
City Clerk Helen W. Jones
Fire Chief Richard Hanson
Deputy City Clerk ~4rie Robinson
Rev. Hardin gave the invocation.
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
The ~linutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Couneil held December 21st,
1964 and the ~~nutes of the Special Meeting of the City Council held December
30th, 1964 were presented to each Councilman for his approval. Motion duly
made by Councilman Ridgdill these minutes stand approved as submitted,
seconded by Councilman Cairnie and by vote CARRIED. The roll call vote
being as follows:
Councilman Siller
Councilman Tingle
Minutes of Dec.
JvI~nutes of Dec.
Councilman Cairnie
Councilman Ridgdill
HaJror Armstrong
Abstain
21st Yea
30th Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Councilman Tingle gave an explanation as to "'hy he voted Nay on the Minutes
of December 30th: According to our City Charter we are to be notified twelve
hours before a special meeting is called. (Mr. Tingle read letter notifying
him of a special meeting and it called for the meeting to be Wednesday, December 29th.)
That is why I voted Nay, I had no notice of the meeting held December 30th. It
is not legal.
City Attorney Mathas: You were present at this meeting.
Councilman Tingle: I was present because of the letter of suspension sent to
Jack Hayman which stated there would be a meeting December 30th.
Hayor Armstrong: There was no intent to do anything -vTrong. Everyone does
something wrong some time.
New Smyrna Beach-Edgewater Humane Soc. 35.00
Prentiss Hardware
General Government
Street Department
Police Department
Recreation
Park & Pier
Laing's Sunoco Station
Police Department
Garbage Department
C & C Tractor, Inc.
BILLS & ACCOUNTS
General Fund
.26
6.41
5.35
4.87
.36
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City Auto Supply Street Dept. 11.61
Garbage Dept. 1.24
Police Dept. 5.57
New S~~na Builders Supply Co. Street
City of New Smyrna Beach Street Dept.
Southern-Aire Chemical Co. Gen. Govt.
Rogers Sales & Service Gen. Govt.
Smith's Service Station Gen. Govt.
Genter & Batten Gen. Govt.
Ne~s-Journal Corp. Gen. Govt.
Motorola Communications Police Dept.
C. G. Br~~r Co., Inc. Fire Dept.
Bond-Howell Lumber Co. Street Dept.
New Smyrna Beach-Utilities
General Government
Fire Dept.
Library
Street Dept.
Park & Pier
Street Lights
Traffic I~ight
Sign
Dana T. Armstrong
36.40
11.54
5.36
6.34
20.06
42g.74
32.15
10.30
Water Department
Prentiss Hardware Co.
Brooks Products
City of Nev' Smyrna Beach -Utilities
Gener & Batten
All State Pipe Supply Co., Inc.
Davis Meter & Supply Co., Inc.
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Dept.
160.52
24.00
:1,.2.75
1.25
36.73
400 . 00
3.30
36;00
15.21
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550.g9
51.10
3.04
150.00
38.61
300.00
16.14
49.90
Motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie these bills be paid and be made a
part of the minutes, seconded by Councilman Ridgdill and by vote CARFJED.
The roll call vote was unanimous.
After considering conflict of day and date, Attorney }futhas said he
thought it would hold for the day. (This is in reference mnotice of
special meeting)
OFFI CERS REPORTS
Certification of Posting dated December 22nd, 1964, was read.
The Building Official's Report for the month of December, 1964, v~s read.
~ayor Armstrong thanked the City Clerk and her staff for the fine reports
and also the City Officials for their fine reports.
CO~n1UNICATIONS
A letter was read from William C. Bayne, Patrolman in the Edgewater Police
Department, dated January 1st, 1965. }w. Bayne submitted his resignation
from the Edgewater Police Department effective as of January 16th, 1965.
The reason for this action was: opportunity for a job which offers better
working conditions and salary.
Mayor Armstrong stated Y.r. Bayne had only been vii th the City a short time
but commended him on how he served the City. He said he would never want
to stop someone from bettering himself.
Motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie we accept the resignation of Officer
vlilliam C. Bayne vdth regrets, seconded by Councilman Ridgdill and by vote
CARRmD. The roll call vote was unanimous.
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ORDINANCES
Councilman Tingle: l}e have not seen the ordinances. I don't know what
I am voting on.
l>1a.yor Armstrong: It will be read right now.
The entire council read the ordinances to be voted on.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 428 APPOINTING A CUSTODIAN FOR TItS COMMUNITY CENTE.T-t
OF THE CITY OF "EDGEVJlI.TER, FLORIDA AND SETTING THE CONPENSATION FOR SUCH
. SERVI CES .
The above ordinance was read in full by City Attorney ~1a.thas and motion
d'l1.1y made b:r Councilman Siller this ordinance be adopted, seconded by
Councilman Cairnie and passed by vote of the City Council of the City
of Edgewater, Florida at the regular meeting of said council held
January 4th, 1965. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Upon motion duly made by Councilman Siller, seconded by Councilman Cairnie
the requirement of reading Ordinance upon second reading was ~laived and the
ordinance was ordered put into effect immediately at the Regular Meeting
of the said Council held on the 4th day of January, A.D. 1965 and approved
as provided by law. The roll call vote was unanimous.
Mayor Armstrong asked Chief Hayman to come to the front of the room.
11ayor Armstrong: After the meeting with you Thursday afternoon are
you still interested in being Chief of Police for the City of Edgewater
after a clarification of certain things?
Attorney Robert Hatthews: From vlhat I understood at the meeting Thursday
l'1r. HaJ'l!Iarl was due an apology.
Mayor Armstrong: The City does not hold Mr. Hayman to blame for shortcomings
in the police department.
Councilman Siller: I was not present at these meetings. I question
the legality of l>!r. Hayman's suspension. The ~2yor is the person 1mO
sent the letter of suspension.
Mayor Armstrong: I received the authority November a year ago. This
suspension is subject to the auproval or disa~Droval of the City Council.
C~lncilman Siller: You did not ask the council about this before the
SD spension.
l>1a,yor Armstrong: You can override my decision.
The Section of the Charter regarding the functions and powers of the Mayor
was read.
Councilman Siller: I don't knovl how you can suspend anyone.
Councilman Tingle read from minutes in Npvember, after election, regarding
authority of }~yor.
Councilma.'I1 Siller: T/1lhy "'as he suspended?
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Iv!ayor Armstrong: You should know. You talked with me before.
Councilman Siller: Vlany times you have said Nr. Hayman did such and
s~ch a thing. I have said before/the entire council should sit down
vlith Hr. Hayman and discuss this. Hr. Hayman was never brought into
the discussion to talk \dth us except once, and that time jot was unfair.
You reported that Mr. Hayman had taken the car to Deland many times
and I asked I>1r. Uayman and he said that it v,rasn' t ture. He had only
taken the car to Deland once.
Hayor Armstrong: That was reported to me.
Councilman Tingle asked Attorney ~~thas if the ~ayor had authority to
suspend anyone.
Attorney I~thas said he would take it under advisement.
Hayor Armstrong: He have to have a Chief of Police. I am not mad at
Chief Hayman.
Councilman Tingle asked Mr. Mathas if he was present at the meeting with
Mr. I-f.a t thevJs.
Mr. Hathas said he was.
}Iayor Armstrong: That was not a council meeting.
Councilman Tingle read sectioh of City Charter referring to appointment
of City Attorney and hi s du tie s . He asked ]/f.:r. }fa thas why he wasn't notified
of this meeting in the afternoon.
Attorney Hathas: Mr. ]/f.atthews caned for l-'1r. Hayman. Fe decided to meet
and'try to work this out. I do not have to notify you.
Attorney }Ia.tthe1:!s: Mr. Hayman called me the following day. He received
call to come dOvm to City Ha]l and talk things over. His answer was to
think it over. He called . me and I asked him to come down to the office.
I called }fr. 14athas for Jack Hayman and he said the differences were
such that they could be vlorked out. 't'Je agreed on the meeting. Mr. Hayman
had a right to know what he had done to warrant this suspension. These
matters were to be brought out. Agreed to have meeting at 2:00 P.M.
I>tr. Harry Lindberg asked what the suspension of Chief Hayman was about.
}Iayor Armstrong: They have just told me he was not suspended.
Stanley A. Seng, Sr. said according to the paper by a vote of 3-1 he was suspended.
Councilman Siller: The paper can't be v~ong. According to the minutes that
were approved, that is a correct statement.
Councilman Siller: I feel Jack Hayman is still our Chief of Police.
Hr. Seng: You owe him an apology if he hasn't done anything.
The Council made a mistake once and they shouldn't make another one.
Mayor Armstrong: If I have done anythirg to hurt Jack Hayman I am sorry.
Councilman Tingle read from the minutes of December 30th in reference to
the suspension.
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Councilman Tingle: The Council had Chief Hayman fired at a previous meeting.
This was a meeting after the regular meeting of the council. After the
meeting December 30th, they wanted me to call Jack Hayman back in to talk
to them and I wouldn't do it.
Councilman Siller: ~~y is Chief Hayman considered to be under suspension?
Hayor Armstrong: I don't ",'ant to go into this any further. An,ything between
Jack Hayman and myself has been settled.
}~s. Helen Grayson said the Council had damaged ~w. Hayman's renutation.
He has a right to know why he was suspended.
Hayor Armstrong: The paper referred to the Police Department and not
Chief Hayman.
Mr. Lindberg asked the Hayor to make a statement that everything is alright
in the Police Department.
11ayor Armstrong: I couldn't say that about myself.
Mr. Lindberg asked to hear from Councilman in Zone #4.
Councilman Ridgdill: ~.aybe there has been a v,rong done to Jack. I have
gotten along with Jack very well. I never had right to doubt his ability
as Chief of Police. There is a difference of opinion in the operation
of the City. Maybe it was a hasty decision. I have no objection to Jack
being Chief. I would apologize if I have done anything I 'shouldn't have
done. I have no ill-will toward Jack.
}~. David Wiggins asked }~. Ridgdill why he voted for the suspension.
Councilman Ridgdill: It becomes necessary. In the line of duty you must
do what is right. I don't want to get into the pros and cons of the
Police Department. If you talk to Jack you can get better answers.
Mr. \1iggins asked if Hr. Ridgdill thought he made a mistake on voting for
the. suspension.
C01.mcilrnan Ridgdill: It was purely a matter of employment practice.
}ly relationship with Jack has always been A~.
Attorney HattheVls: I have agreed to sppak for Jack Hayman since he is mad
enough to fight. vk had a meeting Thursday afternoon, December 31st. I
'..'!ill go into the charges against Chief Hayman. The charges Here asinine.
A City truck was involved in an accident. It seems upon writing the accident
report it was discovered that the driver of the City truck did not have
a Chauffeur's license. The truck was not at fault in the accident. The
matter was brought to the judges attention indirectly if not directly.
FollO\'ring that Chief Hayman was to have checked "'lith the Highway Patrol
to see if the driver of the truck has been checked. About ten days ago
a highNay patrolman followed the City Truck. \linen the truck turned
off the highway the turn indicator did not go on. hhen he stopped the
man he did not have a Chauffeur's license. He was not written a ticket
because he did not have license but was warned to get one. He was given
correction ticket on the turn indicator. Mayor Armstrong decided that
Chief Hayman reported it. This caused the letter of suspension. Also,
changes were supposedly made on an accident report subsequent to a trial.
".!hen the copy was brollght out it "1as found the copy of the report was
changed to conform with Chief Hayman's original report. The letter of
suspension was written on supposition that was made. This was the reason
he was supposedly suspended. It looks like a case of hoof and mouth disease.
The Hayor put his foot in his mouth. vie tried to work it out. After this I
I turned to Mr. Ridgdill and asked him if he didn't think he did this man
~Tong. He said he felt he had to back the Mayor vmen the~e is a difference of
opinion. I asked Mr. Cairnie
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the same thing and he said No.
l1ayor Armstrong asked Chief Hayman if he wanted to come back as Chief
of Police.
Attorney 11atthews said comingba~as Chief of Police is not remedy to
damaging his reputation. A public apology I'/as assured to us at the
meeting last Thursday. There has been no effort made by Mr. Cairnie
or Hr. Armstrong in regards to an apology. The Council can fire him
without reason but there should be a reason for the suspension.
Nayor Armstrong: I have asked him if he '\A/ants to come back to work.
Vie have to straighten things out. The Police Department is vital to
the City. Anybody is subject to making mistakes. I apologize for any
vTong doings I have done to him. I had no intention of firing him.
His police card' isJ":'l.ade out for the neH year dated January 1st. Nobbdy~
\-rants to persecute Jack Hayman. I have corrnnended him many times
on job he is doing. He is a good Chief of Police.
Councilman Cairnie: There has been friction between the administrative
pOi'lers and the Police Department. Jack Hayman '.rlas never a police officer
before. He had a Ipt to learn. Friction developed. I thought this would
clear up the friction. He is suppose to take advise from }byor only.
I apologize for any '\..;rong doings.. AnYthing I can do to help I \-Jill be
glad to do. Just let me knoH.
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Councilman Tingle: I also have been hurt. Hundreds~eople called and
asked what happened. It is pretty embarassing to say I don't know.
Your City Council is split. You vrill suffer for it. I can't "do any
more, it is up to you.
Chief Hayman: I have been asked if I desire to come back as Chief of
Police. It is not a decision you can make just like that. I ~rill have
to talk it over 'lirith,my ..rife. I respectfully request until tomorro'w
to give rnlf decision.
I1otion duly made by Councilman Siller !vir. Hayman be given until tomorroVl
or h/o days if he needs it to make a de eiSon, seconded by Councilman
Cairnie and by vote CARRIED. TI1e roll call vote was unanimous.
Councilman, Siller: Thanked Mr. Hayman for his stand on the whole thing.
I viII support you on ,,,,hatever your decision is.
RESOLUTION
RESOLUTION Nill.ffiER 68 REMOVING THE NAHE OF A RADIO DISPATCHER
AND INSERTING TIlE NAME OF ANOTHER.
The above resolution was read in full by Attorney l~thas and motion
duly made by Councilman Siller this resolution be adopted, seconded by
Councilman Cairnie and passed by vote of the City Council of the City
of Edgei'later at the Regular Meeting of the said Council held this
hth day of January, A.D. 1965. The roll call vote Has unanimous.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEv' BUSINESS
None
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l-1I SCELLANECUS
Presented to Fred Garlick an Ex-Fire Chief badge to be given to ~x.Paul Re~
who was not present at the meeting.
Hr. Garlick accepted it and said he was sure !-fr. Re~ vlould v,rear it with pride.
}fr. Grayson asked about the power situation.
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l~yor Armstrong said it has not been forgotten. ~]e have been ~lite busy.
Some decision ~~ll be reached on this.
tW. Grayson also asked about fixing Hubbell Street and Plaza Lane.
Vlayor Armstrong: They '-rill be putting a temporary coat on right a'1ay.
Councilman Siller asked about Federal Assistance on the Hurricane damage.
Councilman Cairnie: Our~2,200 claim 'was approved.
';Ie just have a feN more papers to fill out.
Hotion dul;~r made by Councilma."1 Tingle we advertise for a Ci ty ~.anager -
the City clerk be authorized to do this -seconded by Councilman Siller
and roll call vote being as follows:
Councilman ~iller
Councilman ingle
Councilman Cairnie
CounciL~n Ridgdill
Mayor Armstrong
Yea
Yea
Nay
Abstain
Nay
Councilman Ridgdill said he wOlud like to talk this over "nth the entire
Council and look at it objectively.
There being no further business, motion duly made by Councilman Cairnie
we now adjourn, seconded by CounciJ~n Ridgdill and there ~rere no objections.
}-Iinutes taken by Marie Robinson.
Time 8:45 P.li.
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