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REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER,
FLORIDA HELD ON AUGUST 19, 1968
The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater,
Florida was called to order by Mayor William H. Cairnie at 7:30
P.M. on August 19, 1968.
ROLL CALL
Mayor William H. Cairnie
Councilman Francis H. Norman
Councilman David C. Ledbetter
Councilman George M. Dimm
Councilman Calvin R. Dietz
City Attorney Charles A. Hall
City Clerk Elsie L. Ward
Deputy City Clerk Gertrude B. Dunn
Police Chief Clyde W. Heath
Present
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Before proceeding with the agenda, Mayor Cairnie introduced the
Postmaster, Mr. Ralph Miller, and asked him to give a progress
report on the new post office.
Mr. Miller gave a short talk on the merits and rewards of postal
work. He stated that the Edgewater Post Office handles approxi-
mately 5,000 pieces of mail per day. He explained that a repre-
sentative from Atlanta had contacted him as to the present capa-
city for handling the flow of mail. Mr. Miller said that there
had been five sites under consideration for the new post office.
The location chosen by the post office authorities was at Snyder
Avenue and U.S.l. Councilman Dimm asked if he had been consulted
as to the location for the new post office. Mr. Miller said he
was consulted only as to the inadvisability of any of the five
sites. He had told the representative that he personally felt
a location as close as possible to Park Avenue would be most
convenient. However, the post office department made the final
decision as to the location. Mr. Dimm mentioned that the Hart
Avenue residents were already concerned with the traffic pro-
blem. Mr. Dimm asked if the post office put out their own spec-
ifications. Mr. Miller r~plied th~t they did. The bidder was
to submit their price for ~ease'and'~e of the building after
constructing the facility according to specificationt Council=
man Dimm then asked if Mr. Miller had been informed as to the
amount of the bid. Mr. Miller replied that he only had a copy
of the specifications. He did not know what the bid was. Mr.
Miller said that the paperwork he had would be available to any-
one at the post office. In reply to Mr. Dimm's questions, Mr.
Miller said he had no idea what kind of parking facility would
be maintained. Mr. Pimm was concerned because the Council had
already received complaints from residents of Hart Avenue rel-
ative to excessive traffic. He felt the post office traffic
would only worsen the situation. Mr. Miller also said that the
owner of the property would construct the building. The Mayor
thanked Mr. Miller for his constructive talk.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Council, held on
August 5, 1968, and the Minutes of a Special Meeting of the City
Council held on August 10, 1968 were presented to each Council-
man for his approval. Motion was made by Councilman Dimm we
approve these minutes, seconded by Councilman Dietz and hy roll
call vote CARRIED. Due to their absence, Councilman Norman ab-
stained from voting on the Minutes of the 5th of August, and
Councilman Ledbetter abstained from voting on the Minutes of the
10th of August, 1968.
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BILLS & ACCOUNTS
General Government
Florida Power & Light Co.
Library Petty Cash Fund
City of Edgewater Petty Cash Fund
Edgewater Manufacturing Co.
Edgewater Motors
City of Edgewater-Waterworks & Sewer
Prentiss Hardware Co.
Superior Cleaners
Wi11ia~ E. Swoope, Jr.
Sentene1 Star Co.
Mussons
Vo1usia Communications Service
Southern Bell T.&T. Co.
Gordon's Printing & Duplicating Service
New Smyrna Beach Police Dept.
Daytona Fire Equipment, Inc.
Board of County Commissioners
American Legion Post #285
Daniel ~J. Cory
Draper's Standard Station
New Smyrna Builders Supply Co.
Telephone Answering Service
Bond-Howell Lumber Co.
Charles A. Hall
Apopka Growers Supply, Inc.
910.38
2.00
15.01
16.30
5.51
25.40
12.12
7.20
255.00
11.16
10.00
88.05
33.19
46.00
57.00
4.00
135.30
8.00
35.00
21 .50
25.50
20.00
6.50
30.00
341 .28
$1,121.40
Water & Sewer Department
Florida Power & Light Co.
Alford Electric Motor Repairs
Electric Service of New Smyrna Beach
Vo1usia Communications Service
Prentiss Hardware Co.
City of Edgewater-Waterworks & Sewer
Edgewater Motors
The Permutit Co.
New Smyrna Plumbing Supplies, Inc.
Chemical Equipment Service
Betz Laboratories, Inc.
456.68
62.86
32.65
10.00
6.25
6.00
15.10
50.40
7.93
51 .00
94.60
$793.47
Motion was duly made by Councilman Dimm these bills be accepted
for payment, seconded by Councilman Dietz and by roll call vote
CARRIED.
OFFICERS REPORTS
Cerification of Posting dated August 6, 1968 was read.
Clerk's Cash Statement for July was read.
Budget Report for July was read.
COMMUNICATIONS
A letter was read from the Edgewater Zoning Board in which the'
Board asked for the Council's consideration of the sum of $2,000.
to be budgeted for adequate City maps.
Councilman Dietz, "These maps are very important. This request
should have come from the planning board, but the Zoning Board is
in dire need of these maps now. I feel if we can, we should work
something into the budget; the federal government will subsidize
the cost of them."
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Councilman Ledbettf'r, "Is this the same mar that is supposed to
cost about $15,000.00?" Mayor Cairnie, "~Je already have detailed
maps for the \'1ater and sewer department." Councilman Dietz, "This
map is something entirely different~" "Mrs. Dunn, do you remember
how m tI c h t his 1'1 a p w ill c 0 s t ? " r~ r s. Dun n, " The bas e map w ill c 0 s t
approximately $1,200.00 to 1,500.00. The Federal government will
pay two thirds of the cost of the map. All other necessary maps
will be made from this official map, and the East Vo1usia Regional
Planning Commission can take care of obtaining the maps and get-
ting the appropriation from the Federal Government." Councilman
Dietz, "This map will be kept under lock and key; it will be the
official map of the City of Edgewater. Only two people will have
access to the map. All changes made to this map will have to be
done with the permission of the Council.. At this time, even the
City Limits can't be determined except by the coordinates."
Motion was duly made by Councilman Norman we table this request,
seconded by Councilman Ledbetter and by roll call vote CARRIED.
A letter was read from Mrs. Ruth Dray, representing the residents
of Hart Avenue, concerning the traffic of large trailers in this
residential area. Mr. P. Bebbington was recogonized by the chair.
"\4ho will be responsible for taking care of this matter?" Mayor
Cairnie, "The Council feels this is a matter for the Chief of
Police." Councilman Dimm, "Yes, and a letter should be written
to the post office department who want to worsen the situation."
Motion duly made by Councilman Norman we turn this matter over to
the Police Department for investigation, seconded by Councilman
Ledbetter, and by roll call vote CARRIED.
A letter was read from the Board of Governors of the Edgewater
Community Center requesting the specific amount of $2,000.00 be
budgeted for the year, and that their operation be withdrawn from
the Park & Pier Fund.
Councilman Dietz made a motion to table this request for further
study until the budget work-up was completed. Councilman Ledbetter,
"I thought we had already decided to give them the money." Council-
man Dimm, "I don1t agree with that motion, Ca1. We have decided
to give them their money. We always end up giving them that much
anyway." Councilman Dietz, "Ok, I withdraw my motion." Council-
man D i mm, " Well, \'1 e a 11 a g r e e d to it; i tis the sam e a mo un t 0 f
money they got before, it's just a different department. Naturally
the budget has to be approved by the public, but it is a minor mat-
ter, and I feel they should have it. Actually, they are self-sup-
porting \'1hat with their rentals and use of their kitchen."
Motion duly made by Councilman Ledbetter, we budget $2,000.00 for
the use of the Community Centeras such, seconded by Councilman
Dimm and by roll call vote CARRIED.
A letter was read from the Library Board stating their concern
about the structural conditions which do not meet the requirements
of the Southern Standard Building Code.
Mr. P. Walls, "We have already sustained some damage from the last
bad storm: and, if we have a hurricane we can expect to lose quite
a few books that are kept against the walls. The last big rain
came in through the walls, under the doors and the windows. We
have phoned the contractor a few times, and they do take care of
minor items, but it takes them a long while to get to it. If we
should have a bad storm or hurricane before they check out the
sealing of the building we would sustain considerable damage to
the books."
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Councilman Dimm, "Hasn't the building been sealed properly?"
~1r. Walls. "Well, it is hard to tell; in the last storm I had
the same thing in my house and I sealed it myself. We should
have the architect get together with us and the contractor to
be sure the building has been finished according to the South-
ern Building Code. I personally don't think it has. A letter
should be sent to the architect as we should have some type of
sealing, even temporary, before we do have a hurricane."
Co u n c i 1 man Led bet t e r, 'I He h a ve ape r for man c e bon d; use i t t 0
force some action out of them. II Attorney Hall, "I suggest you
do start with letters." r~r. Walls, "Well, so far we have just
called them, but very little has been done; just minor things."
Councilman Norman. "I make a motion to turn the matter over to
the City Attorney." The motion was seconded by Councilman Dietz
and there were no objections.
ORDINANCES
ORDINANCE NO. 605 REQUIRING PERMITS FOR ANY PLUMBING, SEWER OR
DRAINAGE"HORK, SETTING FORTH A SCHEDULE OF FEES TO BE CHARGED
BY THE CITY FOR INSPECTIONS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Dimm, "This Ordinance was discussed at our last meet-
ing." Mr. P. Bebbington, "I object to it, at least to part of
it. I don't think I should have to obtain a permit or pay a fee
if I have to reolace a defective hot water heater." Mayor Cair-
nie, "Actually this ordinance covers only a major change in the
plumbing. If you just reconnect a hot water heater or some other
kind of appliance without a change in the plumbing, no permit
will be necessary."
The foregoing Ordinance was read in full by City Attorney Hall
and upon motion duly made by Councilman Dimm this Ordinance be
adopted, seconded by Councilman Norman and by roll call vote
CARRIED. Motion duly made by Councilman Dimm we waive a second
reading of foregoin~ Ordinance, seconded by Councilman Norman
and by roll call vote CARRIED.
ORDINANr.F NO. 606 RESCINDING AND REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 563
AND RESO~UTION NO. lR9 OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA RELAT-
ING TO THE CITY PLANNING ROARD OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORI-
DA AND ITS MEMRERS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Councilman Ledbetter, "I have an objection." Mayor Cairnie, "You
will have to \'Iait until the motion." Councilman Ledbetter, "Oh,
no I wont. This is the first I have heard~of this. Working days,
I can't always attend the workshop meetings, but at least I ought
to be informed of what is going on." Councilman Dietz, "Dave,
I'm sure you have heard the arguMents; are you against the Ord-
inance? This Planning Board we have doesn't work. We have de-
cided to reorganize it. The men on the Board can't seem to get
to~ether. Also, we have had three resignations. Some of these
men are extremely well qualified, but they can't seem to devote
enouah of their time to the Board. Time and again the meetings
have-had to be cancelled, because there is no quor.um. Mrs. Dunn,
when was the last meeting?" Mrs. Dunn, "I believe in April."
Councilman Dietz, "We need men who are not only qualified, but
who will have the time and willingness to devote to the Board.
We intend to cut dO\'ln the size to five men." Councilman Ledbet-
ter, "You want to do now what YOll wanted to do when Chief Wit-
me y e r \'1 a s 1 e t go." Mr. P. Wall s, "I u n d e r s tan d the Boa r d was to
have two year terms, or stay until they were retired by the Coun-
cil. It doesn't look like there will be any gain by abolishing
the board altogether. The present members have had a long ori-
entation period."
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Attorney Hall, "We are appointing a Planning Board vdth a little
different setup, not doing away with it altogether." Councilman
Ledbetter, "\~ell, I make a motion to table the Ordinance for fur-
thur study." The motion was denied for lack of a second. Coun-
cilman Dimm, "What way is this different?" Mr. Walls, "\1ell, for
one thing, you lose the continuity." Councilman Dietz, "We have
already lost it because they will not work. Besides we have min-
itues of all the meetings for reference if necessary. It is also
our intention to try to get some of the members back. What they
need is good leadership." Mr. D. Armstrong, "You seem to be very
liberal toward them in the Ordinance. You give them the right to
pry into the police department, the water department, in fact,
any place they see fit. They even can interfere with the Zoning
Board." Councilman Dietz, "The Planning Board is the Zoning Board;
the Zoning Board is just a Court of Appeal. That's the way it is
mapped out ri ght up to the Federal Government." Attorney Hall,
"The new Ordinance is exactly like the other Ordinance except for
the number of members. II Mr. Armstrong, "Maybe the governing pow-
ers in the previous Ordinance were too broad." Mayor Cairnie,
"The Planning Board can only plan and propose. The Council makes
all the decisions." Mr. Richard Hansen, "If you had ten men and
they all didn't show up, now you will have five men and they will
still not show up. Do you have five men from the old Planning
Board who are willing to be on the new Board?" Councilman Dietz,
"~Je checked with Dave McCallister, your partner, and even he does
not think he wants any part of it. He is an example of a good
member who doesn't have time for it." Councilman Ledbetter,
"That is not what has been told to me."
Motion was duly made by Councilman Dietz this Ordinance be adop-
ted, seconded by Councilman Dimm and by rollcall VOte CARRIED.
Councilman Ledbetter abstained from voting. Motion was duly
made by Councilman Dietz we waive the second reading of above
Ordinance, seconded by Councilman Norman and by roll call vote
CARRIED. Councilman Ledbetter abstained from voting.
ORDINANCE NO. 607 CREATING A CITY PLANNING BOARD WHICH SHALL BE
KNOWN AS THE EDGEWATER PLANNING BOARD, SETTING FORTH ITS MEMBER-
SHIP, SETTING FORTH THE METHOD OF APPOINTING MEMBERS, SETTING
FORTH THE TERMS OF MEMBERS AND MANNER OF FILLING VACANCIES, SET-
TING FORTH THE FUNCTIONS AND DUTIES AND POWERS OF SAID EDGEWATER
PLANNING BOARD, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
The foregoing Ordinance was read in full by City Attorney Hall
and upon motion duly made by Councilman Dietz this Ordinance be
adopted, seconded by Councilman Dimm and by roll call vote CAR-
RIED. Councilman Ledbetter abstained from voting. Motion duly
made by Councilman Dietz we waive the second reading of above
Ordinance, seconded by Councilman Dimm and by roll call vote
CARRIED. Councilman Ledbetter abstained from voting.
A motion was made by Councilman Norman we put off reading the
next Ordinance, which is lengthy until all other business is
settled, seconded by Councilman Dietz and there were no objec-
tions.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION NO. 245 SETTING A MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED BY THE CITY
OF EOGEWATER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING NOVEMBER 1, 1968.
The above Resolution was read in full by City Attorney Hall and
upon motion duly made by Councilman Norman, we adopt this Resol-
ution, seconded by Councilman Dimm and by roll call vote CARRIED.
Mr. P. Bebbington, "Is the rate of millage the same as last yearl.:.
Mayor Cairnie, "Yes, it certainly is."
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RESOLUTION NO. 246 ACCEPTING THE RESIGNATION OF WILLIAM F.
QUIRK AS PATROLMAN FOR THE CITY OF EDGEWATER~ FLORIDA.
The above Resolution was read in full by Attorney Hall ~ and
upon motion duly made by Councilman Norman we adopt this Res-
olution~ seconded by Councilman Dietz~ and by roll call vote
CARRIED.
Co un c il man D i mm ~ " The rem us t be a n e a s i e r \>1 a y to rl 0 t his. II
OLD BUSINESS
The Certification of Bids received on a 1969 Police Car was
read by the City Clerk. The Bids were opened and read by the
City Clerk.
NEW BUSINESS
Motion was duly made by Councilman Norman we re-advertise for
Bids on a 1969 Police Car~ bids to be returned by 4:00 P.M.
Octoher 7~ 1968~ seconded by Councilman Dietz and by roll call
vote CARRIED.
Motion was duly made by Councilman Norman we advertise for bids
for maintenance of the radios and base station~ bids to be re-
turned by 4:00 P.M.~ August 21, 1968, seconded by Councilman Led-
better and by roll call vote CARRIED.
Motion was duly made by Councilman Norman we advertise for a 1968
car, trading in the Falcon Station Wagon~ bids to be in City Hall
by 4:00 P.M., August 21, 1968, seconded by Councilman Dietz and
by roll call vote CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. R. Hanson took the floor, IIMayor Cairnie, when is the Fire
Derartment going to get a radio?1I Mayor Cairnie, IIYou \>lill get
your new radio; it is in the budget for next year."
Mr. D. Armstrong was recognized by the chair. He read from a
number of newsparer articles in which inaccuracies had been prin-
ted. He asked that the Council correct same, and to carefully
quote only facts in the future in all fairness to the public.
The Council pointed out that they were not always responsible
for publications issued in the daily papers.
ORDINANCE NO. 608 AMENDING SECTION 4~ OF ORDINANCE NO. 67 AS
AMENDED BY SECTION 1 ~ OF ORDINANCE NO. 74 PROMULGATING OCCUPA-
TIONAL LICENSE TAXES TO BE CHARGED BY THE CITY OF EDGEWATER~
FLORIDA AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREFOR.
The foregoing Ordinance was read in full by City Attorney Hall
and upon motion duly made by Councilman Dietz this Ordinance be
adopted, seconded by Councilman Dimm and by roll call vote CAR-
RIED. Motion duly made by Councilman Dietz we waive the second
reading of above Ordinance~ seconded by Councilman Dimm and by
roll call vote CARRIED.
Mr. R. Hanson, III~ho enforces this Ordinance?1I Mayor Cairnie,
liThe Police Department; however we don't catch them all, but if
the office is notified we act upon it. The Chief brought in
three last \>/eek for licenses.1I Mrs. R. Webber, operator of the
Gingerbread School, was recognized by the chair. III can't see
any reason why my license should cost me $5.00 more this year.
Where ,are you getting your scale of fees?1I Mayor Cairnie, "We
have studied the scale used in surrounding communities.1I Mr.
P. Bebbington, IIMust this Ordinance be passed tonight?" Mayor
Cairnie, "We do have a time limit and we have worked very hard
to get it ready before this; but we must bill the licensees on
the first of September so we have no choice but to approve it
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now. It will be posted in the Hall and the Library tomorrow
so anyone can see it if they desire.1I
Councilman Ledbetter, III'd like to make a motion to change the
workshop meetings from Thursday mornings to Thursday nights.1I
Mayor Cairnie, IIHe changedthe workshop some time ago from Friday
to Thursday so Mrs. Ward and her staff would have time to pre-
pare the agenda and paper work for Council meetings. I don't
think Thursday night meetings would give them enough time.1I
Council Ledbetter's motion was denied for lack of a second.
Councilman Ledbetter, IIWell, I expected that; you don't want
me to be there, nor do you \'lant me to know what is going on. II
Councilman Oimm, IIDave, that is not so; we do want you there.1I
At this time the meeting was recessed, to be convened further
on August 22, 1968 at 9:00 A.M. in the office of the Mayor,
and there were no objections.
Time of Recess: lO:18P.M.
Minutes taken by Gertrude B. Dunn
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~ie L. Ward, City Clerk
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