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02-20-1961 - Regular , '-" ~ v ....., REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER~ VOLUSIA COUtl.TTY ~ FLORIDA~ HELD FEE. 20th, 1961. The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater, Florida held February 2Oth~ 1961 was called to order by Mayor Crawford C. Shaeffer at 7:30 P.M. ROLL CALL Mayor Crawford C. Shaeffer Councilman G. V. Beck Councilman S. A. Seng, Sr. Councilman R. P. Smith, Sr. Councilman D. T. Armstrong City Clerk Frank F. Dippery City Att'y John E. Chisholm Police Chief F. H. Norman Fire Chief C. Fred Garlick Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Absent The Minutes of the Regular Meeting held February 6th were presented to each Councilman for his approval. Motion duly made by Councilman Smith these minutes stand approved as submitted~ seconded by Councilman Seng and by vote CARRIED. BIUS & ACCOUNTS Boreck Red & White Grocery Paramount Chemical Co. Frye's Fire Mart Electric Service of N.S. B. Davis Meter & Supply Co. Gulf Oil Corporation Gorman Company Florida Power & Light Co. Edgewater Drugs, Inc. Phillips Feed Store Water Bill Southern Bell Tel. & Tel. Roger B. Quincy Sun Oil Co. Standard Oil Co. $12.50 90.66 61.00 14.25 95.16 295.54 292.78 164.74 15.00 19.50 2.50 72.84 823.20 19.91 2.75 Motion duly made by Councilman Seng these bills be paid and be made a part of the minutes, seconded by Councilman Beck and by vote CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:- Councilman Beck Yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman Smith Yea Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea OFFICERS REPORTS The Clerk read the Clerk's Cash Statement and the Budget Report for the month of January, 1961. Also the Police Report for the month of January. COMMUNICATIONS None Mayor Shaeffer then addressed the members of the Council. I would like to talk about installation of a 36# pipe under the Maytown track before the Ordinance reducing speed on the FEC Ry is read. I contacted Armco Company of Orlando and they reconunended an open cut. I wrote to the Engineers of FEe Ry. for permission to open cut and the reply was "delinately not". I then contacted Otis Pruett of Ormond Beach and Burnap & Sims of Orlando. . , '-'" ...., 'V' \.J Mr. Pruett was here and inspected it and Mr. Carlston of Burnap & Sims was also here. I expected to hear from Mr. Carlston today, but did not. Mr. Pruett called and reported 30J1 to 3611 pipe could not be jacked or bored and the smallest pipe that could be used would be 48" sectional plate and the cost would be $3,000.00. Councilman Beck ask if 36" pipe would be large enough to carry this excess water. He was assured the Railroad Engineer suggested 36U pipe. Mayor Shaeffer then suggested the Ordinance reducing speed on FEC Ry. be held in abeyance until we hear from Burnap & Sims and see what bid they put in. Mayor Shaeffer: I see we have gentlemen here representing the Railway. Mr. Stewart, Assft Chief Engineer,Mr. Parker and Mr. Bernard D. Vlasin. Mr. Stewart stated he could see no reason why a 48" could not be used. I can readily see why you people got discouraged, ~s during re-organization letters were shuffled from one department to another causing undue delays, but I am sure the Railway Co. will have no objections to a 48" pipe instead of 36" pipe ..lithout delay. The Railway Co. will not allow open cuts because it is too expensive. It takes men and equipment to do this and after awhile it has to be taken up and road bed filled in as it settles and this causes delays in rail service. Motion duly made by Councilman Smith we hold Ordinance regulating speed on railroad until we get contract from Burnap & Sims. Seconded by Councilman ~d by vote CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:- COUNCILman Councilman Councilman Councilman Mayor Beck Seng Smith Armstrong Shaeffer Before the above roll call was taken there was a discussion in which Council- man Armstrong stated there were a couple of other things to be taken up with these gentlemen. Flasher lights or gates at Indian River Blvd. and Ocean Ave. Mayor Shaeffer stated these men did not come here to discuss these things. Let us take one thing at a time. Councilman Beck stated this is the first time the Railroad Company has had anyone here. We would like to ask questions and get some answers. It has taken 25 years to get anyone here and I would like them to commit th~mselves. Mr. Stewart stated they had not come prepared to talk about crossings, and anyway the City itself generally pay for all signals. Councilman Armstrong. Why not talk about it. rfe have a speed limit of 25 miles per hour on Indian River Boulevard and we still have had two accidents there. One was with a hand car. . Councilman Beck: We should let them understand our problems. The above roll call was then taken. RESOLUTION A ~LUTION REQUESTING THE STATE ROAD DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE OF FIDRIDA, TO REDUCE THE SPEED ON U. S. HIGHWAY NO. L AT THE ENTRANCE TO FLORIDA SHORES SUB- DIVISION, AND ADOPTING THE PETITION SIGNED BY VARIOUS CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, CONCERNING THE HAZARD AT THE AFORESAID INTERSECTION. The above and foregoing resolution was presented to the Council and Council- man Armstrong moved it be adopted, said motion being seconded by Councilman Seng, and upon roll call vote, said resolution was duly declared adopted at the regular meeting of said Council held on the 20th day of February, 1960, the vote of said Council on roll call being as follows:- , (~ ~ 'U' ~ Councilman Beck Yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman Smith Yea Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea Mayor Shaeffer ask Mr. Tedei why a copy of the letter written to the Florida Real Estate Corrunission was not submitted to this office. Vie got a letter from them out of a clear sky asking for information about Florida Shores and I would like to know why you did not let us know about this letter. Mr. Tedei stated he had talked to the Mayor and also came before the Council with complaints, but to no avail and once and for all the letter was sent to get some action. He stated the drain under Fern Palm Drive was not put in satisfactory. It was a waste of money to do a job like this. Evidentally there was no supervision. Mayor Shaeffer stated he had taken it up with Mr. Smith the foreman for Florida Shores and he is going to hire Hanson & Mc Callister's dragline and it will be put in to our satisfaction. Councilman Beck stated things like this should have more supervision, that is why I was holding out for acontract from Magnuson, now this is exactly what we get when we deal with them. Councilman Smith stated concrete pipe should not have been used in the first place and the banks should have been sloped. Councilman Seng stated he was no engineer and do not pretend to be, but Mr. Smith an engineer can recognize these mistakes and I think we should pass a law whereby work would be done in according to City standards. Councilman Armstrong stated he had been raked over the coals on several occasions. He read quotes from minutes of June 9th, 1960. He also stated Councilman Smith had stated he was opposed to paving Indian River Boulevard. Councilman Smith stated he was not opposed to paving Indian River Boulevard if proper drainage was put in. He stated he had talked to engineer on this and could not go along with paving without proper drainage as it would be a waste of money. If proper drainage is put in, I am satisfied to pave. Mr. Brown stated no City Council are qualified engineers. There should be an engineer's report with each subdivision so the Council would know what is needed. A preliminary engineers report can be made by City engineer for four or five hundred dollars and will save the City thousands of dollars. Mr. Tedei stated Florida Shores had been ask for engineering plans on drain- age but did not get any. It was just put in as they went along. Attorney Chisholm was instructed to contact Mr. Swoope and get cost of preliminary engineer's report for drainage of whole area. Councilman Beck ask about havine an Ordinance drawn up restricting the spending to $500 without bids. He was informed we have to go by the Charter until the change goes through Legislature. Mr. Sieg was present and ask if we had Engineer's report on Water Tank Cleaning. He was informed we had not received a report yet, but when the report comes in we will drop him a card. (Mayor Shaeffer ask the Council about establishing a Bulkhead line. He stated Mr. Swoope has all the information needed in his office and could do this without too much expense. Discussion followed. Motion duly made by Council- man Beck the Attorney make arrangements with Mr. Swoihpe to establish a Bulk- head line, seconded by Councilman Armstrong and by vote CARRIED. " I ~ \..,., '-' . V. v Councilman Armstrong stated there was a piece of property in Edgewater running from Highway If1 to River that is offered to the City by deed if the City would open that portion of land from Riverside Drive to Bulkhead line. Mayor Shaeffer stated this would be investigated and taken up later. Mr. Zeilnan ask about cleaning drainage pipe under his driveway. He stated he had put drain in according to City Ordinance but it was clogged and wanted City to see to cleaning. He was informed it was up to him to clean his own drain. Mayor Shaeffer stated there had been five accidents at Florida Shores Entrance. Stop signs are placed there but some do not stop. I have instructed ~ Police Officers to arrest anyone not stopping at stop signs. I hope you people will spread the news. Mr. Tedei ask that the answer to the letter to the Florida Real Estate Conunission be read. Attorney Chisholm read his reply to this conunission. Mayor Shaeffer stated he had been critized when a Special Meeting was called for not allowing anyone to speak from the floor. He explained only one subject was allowed to be discussed when a special meeting was called and as it was settled to satisfaction of everyone there was no reason for dis- cussion from the floor. Mr. Maxwell stated he only wanted to thank the Council for the action taken. There being no further business Councilman Seng moved this meeting be continued until Friday February 24th at 2:30 P.M. Seconded by Councilman Beck and by vote CARRIED. Time 9:00 P.M. CONTINUED MEETING OF FEBRUARY20, TH HELD FEBRUARY 24th, 1961. The Continued Meeting of February 20th was called to order by Mayor Crawford C. Shaeffer February 24th, 1961 at 2:30 P.M. ROLL CALL Mayor Crawford C. Shaeffer Councilman G. V. Beck Councilman S.A. Seng, Sr. Councilman R. P. Smith, Sr. Councilman D. T. Armstrong City Clerk Frank F. Dippery City Att'y John E. Chisholm Present Present Present Present Present Present Present lill!L Bids were read from OtisW. Pruett, Ormond Beach, Florida and Burnup & Sims, Inc. West Palm Beach, Florida as follows:- Otis W. Pruett - 48" Section Plate Burnup & Sims, Inc. - 36" Steel Casing $3,000.00 $2,563.00 The above installed according to Railway Company specifications. Discussion followed on whether 36u pipe would be large enough to carry this surface water. It was decided 36u pipe would be large enough. Motion duly made by Councilman Smith we accept the bid of Burnup & Sims, Inc. for installation of 3611 pipe, seconded by Councilman Seng and by vote CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:- . I~ J I '-" " . . .. '-' , .J ..... \,J v Councilman Beck yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman Smith Yea Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea Mayor Shaeffer ask Attorney Chisholm if he had contacted Mr. Swoope about a map of drainage in Florida Shores. He stated Mr. Swoope estimated it would cost $1000.00 to make a topography map of streets and drainage in Florida Shores and it would cost approximately $500.00 to establish a bulkhead line using the West line of the right of way of the Inter Coastal Waterway as a bulkhead line. Mr. Talley and Briley Wild & Associates to be contacted to bid on making a topography map of Florida Shores also. Motion duly made by Councilman Seng we allocate $500.00 for Mr. Swoope to establish a bulkhead line, seconded by Councilman Armstrong and by vote Carried. Roll call vote being as follows:- Councilman Beck Yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman Smith Yea Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea Mayor Shaeffer then brought up the pouring of a concrete slab for the men to work on machinery back of the water plant. The approximate size 20 x 24. Councilman Smith questioned this as he stated when he was in charge of the street work he was informed this could not be done as there was some kind of an Ordinance on the books which did not permit this. Mayor Shaeffer stated it was only in the form of a motion when the land was pur- chased but he had changed his mind now. A discussion then followed on the size of the slab. Motion duly made by Councilman Seng a concrete slab be poured measuring 22 x 24 for the Street Department, seconded by Councilman ~. and by vote CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:- ""&e!:. Councilman Beck Yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman Smith Yea Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea Mayor Shaeffer then ask what the Council thought of trading the road scraper for a small bulldozer. Councilman Smith stated it was not advisable to do this at this time. When we are in a position to buy a sizable bulldozer we should do so. It was then ask who wanted to make the trade, Hanson & Mc Callister? The Mayor stated it was. Councilman Smith ask why a certain amount of money could not be put into a sinking fund, to be added to each year, otherwise the City will have to Float a bond issue to buy equipment for taking care of roads and drainage for maintaining Florida Shores. At present we could not take care of cutting grass. It was agreed this was a good idea if there are sufficient funds left after the other needs are taken care of. Discussion on Paving Indian River Boulevard. Motion duly made by Councilman Armstrong drainage be put in and paving done on Indian River Boulevard by the County. Councilman Smith stated he would like to question this before action is taken. He stated as long as the water was not extended beyond Orange Avenue and the proper drainage is not in, he would oppose this as the road would have to be torn up to install these facilities and he was against this. After more discussion this motion was seconded by Councilman Beck and CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:- Councilman Beck Yea Councilman Seng Yea Councilman 8rni th Nay Councilman Armstrong Yea Mayor Shaeffer Yea -. JI ~ · I l. '-' ~ \wi .. , I . Councilman Seng brought up paving Marion Avenue. Mayor Shaeffer stated the City could do this work and intended to do several other streets and if our equipnent is not heavy enough we can always get the necessary equip- ment from the County. Councilman Beck suggested a letter be written to Mr. Saxon and Mr. Galbreath thanking them for the three and one half days work and their co-operation in clearing ground for a ball field. There being no further business Councilman Seng moved we do now adjourn, seconded by Councilman Beck and by vote CARRIED. Time 3:45 P.M. Mayor 41-/ .JJ .P~~:'rr~~ Councilman Councilman Councilman Councilman A=T:_~~;J~ City C :t rJ