06-04-1962 - Regular
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REGULAR lvIEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, VOLUSIA
COUNTY, FL01UDA, HELD JUNE 4, 1962.
Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Edgewater, Volusia
County, Florida, held June 4th, 1962 was called to order by:Hayor A.
Hussey at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Mayor A. Hussey
Councilman C.A. Siller
Councilman S.A. Seng, Sr.
Councilman H.R. Palmateer
Councilman G.S. Kennedy
City Clerk F.F. Dippery
Acting Police Chief J. Deibler
Fire Chief C. Fred Garlick
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Hayor Hussey: If you will recall last meeting night, here, we received
the resignation of City Attorney Dan Warren. Now, tonight, we are in
the process of hiring a new attorney. May I now present fW. Jefferson
Clark of New Smyrna Beach. vlhile on my feet I ..lant to clarify something
that came up in the paper tonight which a great many people do not under-
stand. There is in the paper tonight a misrepresentation and a mis-
quotation. It was sent to the Ne,'/S Journal. I was asked about the matter
pertaining to the Police Chief.
Marie Goodrich, Reporter for the News Journal: I resent what you have
said. That is the truth and I have witnesses to prove it.
Hayor Hussey: I don't like being misquoted. l:lhen I make a statement I
think there are enough to verify my statement. \fuether you are for me or
against me it doesn't matter. I try to speak the truth. I don't wish to
be misquoted. Just in case some of you think I have wandered from my
previous statement, I have not.
The minutes of the Regular Meeting held l1ay 21st were presented to each
Councilman for his approval. Motion duly made by Council~an Seng these
minutes stand approved as submitted, seconded by Councilman Kennedy and
by vote CARRIED.
BILLS & ACCOUNTS
City of New Smyrna Beach
Vol. Tractor & Implement Co.
New Smyrna Builders Supply
Ducor Supply
Charley's Welding Shop
Pitney Bowes, Inc.
New Smyrna Plumbing Supplies
Electric Service
Bond-Howell Lumber Co.
Davis Meter & Supply Co.
Coronado Concrete Products
Steven's Lock Shop
Dwight's
New Smyrna Auto Supply
Western Auto Associate Store
West Coast Electronic's
Lloyd Cox Co.
W.R. Ferreira, Prisoner Fees
Ford's Gulf Service
Drex Ice, Inc.
$533.21
55.35
.35
76.6S
22.06
21.60
440.11
35.45
31.2S
119.10
45.32
30.29
54.45
1.73
1.51
26.40
15.95
54.00
6.07
42.00
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Edgewater Motors
Hanson & McCallister, Inc.
Prentiss Hardware Co.
Nathaniel Dame & Co.
The Baker & Taylor Co.
Robertson & May
51.84
169.00
71.60
10.55
70.29
607.50
Notion duly made by Councilman Seng these bills be paid and be rade a
part of the minutes, seconded by Councilman Kennedy.,., Roll call vote:~
being as follows:-
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
Hayor Hussey
Yea with the exception
of paying for the audit.
I wasn't in favor of the
audit so I can't be in
favor of paying them. And
the payment of Drex Ice, Inc.
for cleaning ditches which
amounts to over $500
Yea
Yea with exception to Drex Ice
Yea with exception to Drex Ice
Yea
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng: Concerning this bill to Drex Ice, Inc., this job was for
cleaning ditches in Florida Shores. The man was not to go over $500 and
went up to $497. He then worked on another part of Florida Shores and so
there was an extra bill. I don't think I am doing anything wrong.
OFFICERS REPORTS
Building Officials report for the month of May, 1962 was read.
SPECIAL AUDIT REPORT FROH ROBERTSON & MAY WAS READ.
Motion duly made by Councilman Kennedy that we accept this audit report
as read, seconded by Councilman Palmateer and by vote CARRIED. Roll call
vote being as follows:-
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Counc:ilman Kennedy
Nayor Hussey
Did not approve of retaining
audit and will not approve
of_paying them. I vote Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Councilman Siller
CONMUNI CATIONS
A letter was read from John W. Carter asking for the declaration of Little
League week, June 11 through 16.
A letter from W.H. Warren asking the approval of certain land in the City
Limits of Edgewater for a target'range.
A letter from Nat Brown asking for the reclassification from residential to
commercial certain land where he is to start building.
A letter from Nat Brown inviting the City Officials to the ground breaking
for his office building.
A letter from Herbert A. Boreck, Secretary Treasurer of the Edgewater Volunteer
Fire Department asking if the City was going to donate the $300 that it has
in previous years for the 4th of July celebration.
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}fuyor Hussey's special notice extending the time of the Auxiliary Police
for the City to July 5, 1962.
A letter from Fred R. Brannon, Jr. requesting the back pay of Frank Norman.
A letter firom Frank Norman stating his ,dllingness to return to vlorlf stating
that he had been cleared of all charges.
Councilman Siller: I believe it mll be alright for the auditors to go
now if they vlant to.
ORDINANCES
ORDINANCE #312 DESIGNATING AND APPOINTING A CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF
EDGEWATER, VOLUSIA COUNTY,FLORIDA, ~ID SETTING FORTH COl,\1PENSATION FOR SUCH
OFFICE.
The above ordinance was read in full by 'Attorney Jefferson W. Cmark and
motion duly made by Councilman Kennedy this ordinance be adopted, seconded
by Councilman Siller and passed by vote of the City Council of the City of
Edgewater, Florida at the regular meeting of the said Council held on
June 4, 1962. Roll call vote being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
l'fuyor Hussey
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Upon motion duly made by Councilman Kennedy, seconded by Councilman Siller
and CARRIED, the requirement of reading said ordinance upon second reading
was waived and the ordinance was put upon final passage.
Passed by vote of the City Council of the City of Edgewater, Florida, at tre
regular meeting of said Council on thd 4th day of June A.D., 1962, and approved
as provided by law, the vote of said Council being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councllman Pqlmateer
Councilman Kennedy
I-Iayor Hussey'
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING }1ENBER TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS FOR THE Cm1MUNI TY
CENTER OF THE CITY OF EDGEWATER, FLORIDA, AND FroNG THE TER}! OF OFFICE
FOR THE SAl.fE.
The above resolution was read in full by Attorney Jefferson W. Clark
and motion duly made by Councilman Siller this resolution be adopted,
seconded by Councilman Seng and 1: passed by vote of the City Council of
the City of Edgevlater, Florida at the regular meeting of the said Council
held on June 4, 1962. Roll call vote being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
}Iayor Hussey
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
ORDINANCE
ORDINANCE #313 TERMINATING SERVICE OF PRESENT POLICE CHIEF FOR THE
CITY OF EDWtlATER, VOWSIA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND SETTING FORTH CO}1P.ENSATION
DUE FOR SUCH OFFICE TO TER1'lINATION DATE.
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The above ordinance was read in full by Attorney Jefferson W. Clark
and motion duly made by Councilman Palmateer this ordinance be adopted
seconded by Councilman Kennedy and passed by vote of the City Council
of the City of Edgewater, Florida at the regular meeting of the said
Council on June 4, 1962.
Councilwan Siller: We would like to know why Frank Norman is being
discharged. Someone should be able to give me an answer to this.
Hr. Palmateer, you made the motion to accept this ordinance?
Councilman Palmateer: Do to the fact that I was at the trial in the .
case of the $200 bond and his own evidence convicted him, as far as
my conscience is concerned, he should be discharged. Mr. Norman claimed
he kept the $200 bond ~furch through December 1961. It should be turned over
to the City everyday. Vlhen the Judge addressed the Jury he stated tha.t>rf
an officer keeps money for over 30 days, he is guilty of embezzlement.
Councilman Siller: Mr. Palmateer, you as much as told us we should not
abide by the rules of our state and federal laws. Mr. Norman has been
found innocent of those charges.
Councilman Palmateer: I am telling you what my conscience dictates to me.
Roll call vote being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
Mayor Hussey
Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Upon motion duly made by Councilman Palmateer, seconded by Councilman
Kennedy and CARRIED, the requirement of reading said ordinance upon
second reading was waived and the ordinance was put upon final passage.
Bassed by vote of the City Council of the City of Edgevm.ter, Florida,
at the regular meeting of said Council on the 4th day cf June A.D., 1962
and approved as provided by law, the vote of said Council being as
follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
Mayor Hussey
Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Councilman Seng: I would like to state one thing on my vote. I have
no qualms to pick with anyone whatsoever. As far as }if.r. Norman is
concerned, he has been exonerated by the courts. But my own feelings
are that for the good of the City of Edgewater Frank be discharged.
ORDINANCE
ORDINANCE #314 DESIGNATING AND APPOINTING A POLICE CHIEF FOR THE CITY
OF EDGEWATER, VOLUSIA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND SETTING FORTH COHPENSATION
FOR SUCH OFFICE.
The above ordinance vms read in full by Attorney Jefferson vi. Clark
and motion duly made by Councilman Palmateer this ordinance be adopted
seconded by Councilman Kennedy and passed by vote of the City Council
of the City of Edgewater, Florida at the regular meeting of the said
Council on June 4, 1962. Roll call vote being asfollows:
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palwateer
Councilman Kennedy
l'fuyor Hussey
Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
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Upon motion duly made by Councilman Palmateer seconded by Councilman Kennedy
and carried, the requirement of reading said ordinance upon second reading
was waived and the ordinance put upon final passage.
Passed by vote of the City Council of the City of Edgewater, Florida,
at the regular meeting of said Council on the 4th day of June A.D., 1962
and approved as provided by law, the vote of said Council being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
Mayor Hussey
Nay
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
OLD BUSINESS
Discussed the matter of the Water Tower Safety Device. City Clerk
had a price from Jack Sharpe's Inc. Motion duly made by Councilman
Seng that we give permission to order this device, seconded by
Councilman Siller and by vote CARRIED.
NEW BUSINESS
Motion duly made by Councilman Sengthat we donate $300 for fireworks
for the 4th of July celebration, seconded by Councilman Kennedy and by
vote CARRIED. Roll call vote being as follows:-
Councilman Siller
Councilman Seng
Councilman Palmateer
Councilman Kennedy
Jif.ayor Hussey
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Yea
Council turned the matter of reclassification of Nat Brown's property
over to the Zoning Board.
Motion duly made by Councilman Seng that we tar-Ie the matter of the
Rifle Range until we investigate it further, s~conded by Councilman
Kennedy and by vote CARRIED.
Nat Brown's letter was read again notifying the people of the ground
breaking ceremonies for his new office building. Council stated that
all who could possibly go would attend.
Mayor Hussey proclaimed the week of June 11 through 16 Little League Week.
Reeves Smith: At the meeting before last a matter came up concerning
the former Council. All I was ever interested in when I was on the
Council, were the people who put me in office. On November 1, 1960
I 'vas at the meeting and made the motion that John Deibler be taken
back as a policeman after being suspended by Mr. Norman. I wanted
Hr. Deibler and Mr. Norman to shake hands and make up. That was;done.
It didn't stop there. Right after November 1, new faces came into
the Council who did not know what was going on. Right in the presence
of the present Y.tayor and myself, Mr. Deibler said he ,dll get that man
if he has to go to the Governor.
~~yor asked }~. Smith to be seated.
Mr. Smith: There is a law for freedom of speech. He went on to say
that this is nothing more than dog eat dog.
City Attorney Clark asked the people to contain themselves somewhat.
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Mr. Smith: The former Council had nothing Ito do "lith this case.
Stanley Seng can't sp.y anything different. Any former Councilman would
have to go along with that. !-Ir. Smith then brought up the matter of
Stop Signs for Florida Shores, but was net allO\'Ted to speak and taken
out of the Meeting.
l'lr. Fred Brannon, Attorney for Frank Norman, then spoke. He said he wanted
to discuss two things. (1) That it was a fair trial in DeLand. Frank
Norman had a right to a Jury Trial. Anyone who says it wasn't a fair trial
doesn't know vThat he is talking about. Concerning the case, I believe
a man stole gas from a filling station in the City but vms caught outside
of the City Limits. The money \'las brought to the Police Department in\!;
New Srrwrna Beach. The man had not been given a trial and the money doesn't
belong to the City of Edgewater. Anytime that man walked into court he
was entitled to his money. (2) The Auditors have made their audit. There
are a lot of tickets missing in 60 and 61. That auditor talked to Officer
Deibler. That auditor has not asked Frank Norman anything about it. The
tickets were handled loesely. There was a weak system from date of arrest
to the time of the trial. I hope Edgewater has a better system in the futuve.
May~Hussey has voted his convictions and Councilman Siller has. Three
of you have not been consistent. Frank Norman is as good a police officer
before all this started as he is now. ~fuether you recognize this or not
is your privilege. There are four arms to every court case: Hy Defense,
State Attorney's Case, the Jury, and the Judge. Nembers of the Council,
you are more than men, you are the arms j:>f the City of Edgewater and
should talk above personal feelings.
Nat Brown: I am not for or against Norman. Mr. Brown said th~t the
oUe r speakers were out of order. vTe have elected a City Council and
\'le should give them a chance.
Charles Teague: Gentlemen, You have been elected by the people of
Edgewater. Before you went into office you said you would do what vias
good for the City of Edgewater. Tonight you have dismisseddsomeone
you know in your heart is one of the best peace officers that there is
in this part of the state. I think it is a very poor place when ~~.~
Smith can't speak his own mind. We have a right to free speech in
this country. I believe with all rrw heart that you were afraid he
would tell something else.
There being no further business Councilman Kennedy moved we do now
adjourn, seconded by Councilman Palmateer and by vote CARRIED.
Time 8:40 P.M.
Hayor cl
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