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CITY OF EDGEWATER
EDGEWATER PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
FEBRUARY 15, 1984
Minutes
Don Bennington called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M., In the Community
Center Building.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Don Bennington, Jake Wheeler, Lyle Chenoweth, Fred Finn,
and Ann Thomas. George Quaggin was absent and Greg Stewart was excused.
Also present: Susan Mista, secretary, one member of the press and various
people in the audience.
At this time all of the members of the Planning and Zoning Board were sworn
in by Diputy City Clerk, Susan Wadsworth.
Roll Call was taken and the members present were Don Bennington, Jake Wheeler,
Lyle Chenoweth, Fred Finn and Ann Thomas. George Quaggin was absent and
Greg Stewart was excused.
ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
Don Bennington stated that the first item on the agenda was election of
Chairman and Vice-Chairman. He further stated that Mr. Stewart called
him and said he had a prior committment that he could not get out of and
Mr. Bennington asked the Board if they wished to go ahead and elect a
Chairman and Vice-Chairman or wait until Mr. Stewart and Mr. Quaggin were
present. He advised the Board members that Mr. Stewart had said that he
did not want to be nominated for any office due to a new business he was
involved in where he might have to substitute as Chairman. Mr. Wheeler
advised that he had talked to Mr. Stewart and he said he would take the
nomination for Vice-Chairman, if offered to him. It was the concensus of
the Board to go ahead and elect a Chairman.
Mr. Bennington opened the floor for nomination of. Chairman. Mr. Chenoweth
nominated Don Bennington for Chairman, seconded by Mrs. Thomas. There were
no other nominations for Chairman. The floor was then closed for Chairman
nominations. Upon roll call, motion CARRIED 5-0. Don Bennington was
elected Chairman of the Board.
Mr. Chenoweth stated that if Mr. Stewart said he would take the nomination
as Vice-Chairman, he should be nominated for same. Mr. Wheeler said that
is what Mr. Stewart told him.
Mr. Bennington opened the floor for nomination of Vice-Chairman. Mr. \
Wheeler nominated Greg Stewart for Vice-Chairman, seconded by Mr. Chenoweth.
There were no other nominations for Vice-Chairman. The floor was then
closed for Vice-Chairman nominations. Upon roll call, motion CARRIED 5-0.
Greg Stewart was elected Vice-Chairman of the Board.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairman Bennington stated that the minutes of the Zoning Commission meeting
of January 23, 1984, and the Planning Commission Workshop minutes of
December 8, 1983, need to be approved, however, there are not enough members
present on this Board to approve same.
Chairman Bennington asked for a motion for approval of the February 1, 1984,
Planning Commission minutes. Mr. Chenoweth made a motion to approve same,
seconded by Mr. Finn. Motion CARRIED 3-0, with Chairman Bennington, Mr.
Finn and Mr. Chenoweth being the only members at said meeting voting.
Chairman Bennington then asked for suggestions as to how to approve the
other minutes. Councilman Jack Spencer, a member of the audience, suggested
that Mr. Wheeler recommend that the minutes be approved for the Zoning
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Commission minutes and if there are no objections to same, let the record
show that he approved them; and do the same with the Planning Workshop
minutes.
Mr. Wheeler then recommended that the Zoning Commission minutes of the
January 23, 1984, meeting be approved. There being no objections to same,
the minutes were approved.
Chairman Bennington recommended that the minutes of the Planning Commission
Workshop of December 8, 1983, be approved. There being no objections to
same, the minutes were approved.
REVIEW SITE PLANS
SP-8404 - Medardo Soldevilla - 2025 South Ridgewood - Restaurant
Mr. Soldevilla was present to discuss his plans.
Chairman Bennington questioned Mr. Soldevilla concerning his Contract for
purchase of this building, wherein it states that he has to get a permit
from DOT to place a culvert at the front of the property. He asked if
that was the ditch in the front. Mr. Soldevilla said no, if he fills it
up all the way he will have to put in a manhole; if it is filled only on
the right side, he will not have to have a manhole, which is what he is
planning on doing.
Chairman Bennington stated that the drawing shows a 14' driveway and
the Code requires 20'. He referred to the Code on page 1623 wherein it
states that 20' is required for single accessways serving multi-family
or non-residential uses for a one-way entrance. If the entrance is for
two ways, the Code requires 24' accessway.
A discussion then ensued concerning the trees located at the front of
the ~roperty. There are presently three trees in the front and Mr.
Soldevilla plans on removing one of the palm trees that will be in the
way of the parking spaces. Chairman Bennington advised him that he
could not put parking spaces in the location he has indicated on the site
plan due to the fact there is not 20' for backing out, which is required
by the Code. Mr. Soldevilla stated he will have 4 tables with 16 seats
inside the restaurant and he asked how many parking spaces he would need.
Chairman Bennington advised that he would need 8 spaces. He also advised
him that where his drawing indicates 15' for backing out of the parking
spaces, he will have to change it to 20'. Mr. Soldevilla agreed to change
the plan, as advised.
Chairman Bennington questioned Mr. Soldevilla as to whether or not the
residence next to the proposed restaurant uses the driveway for getting
in and out, to which Mr. Soldevilla replied, yes. He further stated that
his driveway would be one way in. Chairman Bennington said if the drive
is used as an entrance, the neighboring people could not use it to get in
and out of. He stated that the parking area could be removed from that
side, allowing for an entrance and exit in that location. There is enough
land in the back of the structure to allow for the parking spaces that are
required by the Code - there would be no problem with the parking require-
ments.
Chairman Bennington noted that there were no comments from the Police or
Fire Department concerning this site plan. The secretary advised that the
Fire Department Supervisor brought his comments in yesterday, and advised
that he had no problems with this site plan being converted to a restaurant.
Mr. Chenoweth made a motion that this site plan be given preliminary and
final approval, subject to the driveway being situated on the south side
of the structure, said driveway being 24' wide and used as an entrance
and exit; and providing for adequate parking spaces in the rear. Mr. Finn
seconded the motion.
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Mr. Wheeler stated that h~ felt that he should come back with revised
drawings, indicating these changes. Chairman Bennington said that the
motion could stipulate that these drawings be provided, showing the
changes. He further advised that Mr. Soldevilla understands that he has
to have 20' for backing out of the parking spaces.
Mr. Wheeler asked that it be stipulated in the motion that Mr. Soldevilla
resubmit the corrected drawings, prior to issuing the building permit, to
show the changes in the parking and driveway areas.
Upon roll call, motion CARRIED 5-0.
SP-8405 - Lloyd VanWinkle - 101 South Ridgewood - Two Sun Roofs
Mr. VanWinkle was present to discuss his site plan.
Chairman Bennington asked Mr. VanWinkle if he owns both of the businesses
at this location. Mr. VanWinkle advised that he owns the property but not
both businesses. Chairman Bennington then stated that there is not enough
parking shown on the site plan. He further stated that Mr. VanWinkle was
granted a variance by the Board of Adjustments in 1982 for one sun roof on
the north side, however, according to the Code, since a year has elapsed
since the variance was granted, he must come before the Board again for
approval.
A discussion then ensued regarding the number of parking spaces required
in compliance with the Code. Chairman Bennington stated that 15 parking
spaces were needed for the 5 bays that are indicated on the plans. He
asked if the proposed sun roof areas were going to be used as working bays,
to which Mr. VanWinkle advised that they were. Chairman Bennington then
said that Mr. VanWinkle is short 9 parking spaces, before he adds the sun
roofs.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion that this site plan be rejected for the reason
that it does not meet the parking requirements in compliance with the Code.
Mr. VanWinkle advised that he has only three mechanics and he did not see
why so many parking spaces were needed. Chairman Bennington explained that
each man may be working on three cars and some people may bring their car
in and leave it for the entire day. Spaces must be provided for parking
these vehicles, whether they are being worked on or not. Each working bay
requires 3 parking spaces. Mr. VanWinkle advised that the 2 bays outside
of the building were not working bays, they are the machine shop. There
are only 3 working bays - not 5. Chairman Bennington then said that with
3 working bays, only 9 parking spaces are required and the site plan shows
10. He asked Mr. VanWinkle if the sun roofs would be covered parking
spaces, rather than a bay, to which Mr. VanWinkle replied, yes.
Chairman Bennington stated that according to the City Engineer, he has
contacted Mr. VanWinkle's engineer and there is no problem with preliminary
approval due to the fact the engineer is working on handling the stormwater
management matter. Mr. VanWinkle advised that his engineer is John Parnell.
Regarding the 12' driveway, Mr. VanWinkle advised that the area is actually
16', however, the concrete area is only 12'.
Chairman Bennington stated that two variances were needed; one for the sun
roofs that would violate the zoning setbacks, and the proposed driveway is
in violation of the parking ordinance.
Mr. Wheeler withdrew his motion to reject the plans, since it has been
determined that there are sufficient parking spaces to comply with the
Code.
Mr. Chenoweth made a motion that this site plan be given preliminary and
final approval, subject to getting a variance from the Board of Adjustments
for the two sun roofs and the 12' driveway. Mrs. Thomas seconded the
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motion. Chairman Bennington stated that the City Engineer would recommend
preliminary approval regarding the stormwater management calculations,
however, he felt that final approval should stipulate that the City
Engineer approve of these calculations.
Mr. ,Chenoweth amended his motion to include that final approval is also
subject to approval by the City Engineer concerning the stormwater manage-
ment calculations. Mrs. Thomas amended her second.
Upon roll call, motion CARRIED 5-0.
SP-8403 - Luis Geil for Robert Voshell - 22nd & Hibiscus - Permission
to allow construction of warehouse in B2 zone.
Mr. Geil and Mr. Voshell were both present concerning this site plan.
Chairman Bennington advised that the applicant is asking that the Board
amend the B2 zoning to include warehouses. Mr. Geil advised that the size
of their proposed building does not meet the requirements of a miniwarehouse,
however, the Code does not provide a definition for a warehouse. Mr.
Wheeler stated that warehouses are listed as permitted uses in II. Mr.
Geil stated that they are complying with the requirements for a miniwarehouse
except for the size - width and length. A discussion then ensued regarding
how miniwarehouses came about. It was the opinion of Chairman Rennington
that possibly the two roads along the railroad tracks in Florida Shores
are zoned wrong. He said warehouses do not belong in B2 and maybe neighbor-
hood businesses should not be allowed in that area. Mr. Wheeler agreed
with Chairman Bennington. Chairman Bennington said that maybe that area
should be zoned light industrial, or II. He further stated that he did not
feel that the B2 zoning should be amended to allow warehouses. Mr. Wheeler
agreed. Mr. Geil statro if they reduced the width and length of the cubicles
and add more, leaving the building as it is, then it will be allowed.
Mr. Voshell advised the Board that he wanted to store some $700,000 worth
of antique automobiles, that he has lost his storage space and has to build
a new facility. He further said that he needed a place to store them until
such time that he can build a museum. All of them are restored and finished.
The plans are shown so that he can store two cars in each unit. If and
when he moves the automobiles out, the building could be rented as storage,
and large enough to not have to cram a large amount into a small space,
thereby eliminating the possibility of a fire hazard.
A lengthy discussion ensued concerning the miniwarehouses located in this
area, their use and misuse, and the suggestion of rezoning this area to
II, to better comply with the Code requirements for this zoning district.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion to reject this site plan for the reason that the
use is not allowed in the B2 zoning district. Motion DIED for lack of
second.
Mr. Geil said all he had to do was add restroom facilities and parking
facilities and they could have the same building and size as they are
proposing. Chairman Bennington said that was correct. Mr. Voshell said
the area is zoned for a body shop, if the Board wants him to put in a body
shop, he will - but he advised he would still store them there. Chairman
Bennington said the problem is what the structure will be used later foi, if
the facility is sold or rented.
Chairman Bennington said that Mr. Voshell is asking that they amend the
neighborhood business district to include warehouses. Mr. Chenoweth said
that principally that area is being used for that purpose now. Chairman
Bennington said that he believes the zoning is wrong. There is one duplex
at the end of Guava, everything else is either warehouses, auto body shops,
etc. At the beginning of Guava there is a duplex bu~iness building, a
surveyor, a window shop, a nursery, Earl Wallace's drafting, woodworking
place - and on the right hand side is warehouse. The west side of Guava
and the west side of Hibiscus should probably be zoned light industrial,
which permits warehouses, body shops, etc. From 20th to 30th Streets the
property is buffered on both sides by R4, then it goes into R2B, or single
family. North of 20th on Hibiscus is all single family and industrial
zoning should not be down that strip. Mr. Wheeler said the II should be
from 20th to 30th Street, only.
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Chairman Bennington said that the usage that the land is being used for
now and the best use of the land, with the dirt streets, it should be
changed to light industry.
Mr. Wheeler said that the recommendation would have to go before Council
before it can be rezoned and public hearings will be held concerning the
proposed change.
Mr. Chenoweth made a motion that a recommendation be sent to Council to
rezone the area between 20th and 30th Street on Hibiscus and Guava that
is presently zoned B2, be changed to II. If Council approves the rezoning
to 11, then Mr. Voshell can come back before the Board with his site plan.
Mrs Thomas seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
NEW BUSINESS
Develop new By-Laws for the Board.
Chairman Bennington stated that the members were given copies of the by-laws
for the Planning Commission, Zoning Commission and the previous Planning
and Zoning Board for review. It was his suggestion that in reviewing the
by-laws of the combined Board, which is almost identical to the by-laws for
the separate Boards, the ordinance that was recently passed for this Board
states that 4 members are needed for a quorum, and 3 to pass anything. The
new by-laws will have to reflect tha~ since it is already in the ordinance.
On page 3, item C, under "Secretary", the word "Manager" should be deleted
and have it read "City". On page 5, under "Quorum" and "Voting", that has
been determined by the ordinance, also, and it should probably be put in
the by-laws the way the ordinance reads. It was his suggestion that the
rest of the wording be the same as in the previous by-laws for the Planning
and Zoning Board. There were no other comments or suggestions concerning
this matter.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion that the new by-laws be written as the previous
by-laws for the Planning and Zoning Board, including the changes noted by
Chairman Bennington. Mr. Chenoweth seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED
5-0.
Review Alcoholic Beverage Requirements in Code.
Chairman Bennington advised that Gigi Bennington has learned some infor-
mation concerning this matter.
Mrs. Bennington advised that she is a member of the Florida League and on
a committee called Inter-Governmental Relations. One of the cities on
this committee had a problem with the selling of alcoholic beverages and
they tried to limit the sale of off-premises consumption, particularly in
gas stations, by zoning. They are now in Court due to the fact there is
a state statute that says if you are granted a license by the state for
the sale of malt liquor, which is beer, for off-premises consumption, you
cannot restrict it by zoning. This means that anyone who wants to get
a beer license can apply to the state and if given a license by the state,
the City cannot prevent them from selling it. This information came from
the City of North Miami. The Florida League of Cities has asked the state
to do something about this matter and have been turned down because of the
lobbying for alcoholic beverage sales. They are presently trying to get
more people involved to try and change this, by passing some sort of bill
to allow the cities to control the issuance of licenses, in whatever way
possible.
Chairman Bennington said, in conclusion, there is nothing this Board can
do to control this problem because the state will not allow them to.
Councilman Jack Spencer said he had talked to state Senator Langley about
this matter and he advised Mr. Spencer that all the cities can do is control
the hours that beverages are allowed to be sold in the City, but you cannot
zone it out.
Review 880 Ordinance - Permitted Uses
Chairman Bennington stated that the Permitted Uses in all of the zones
needs to be reviewed and updated. He further said that if the Board
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does not have enough time at their regularly scheduled meetings to go over
these items, maybe another meeting should be called each month to review
same, until all of the Permitted Uses in all of the zones ha~been updated.
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington suggested that perhaps there should only be
one meeting a month to review site plans and the other meeting to review
the items that need_to be updated, for example these Permitted Uses. It
is too difficult to discuss an item like the Permitted Uses when the agenda
is already full. There is not enough time for adequate discussion when
the agenda is full.
Chairman Bennington said that the schedule needs to be rearranged so that
the Department Head Supervisors comments can be added to the Board's packet
each time. He felt it was not good to receive these comments the night of
the meeting, rather, they should be included in the packet so the Board
members can review same prior to the meeting instead of the night of the
meeting.
Councilman Jack Spencer discussed the land that is being annexed by New
Smyrna Beach. He stated there is an agreement between Edgewater and New
Smyrna Beach regarding annexation, however, the present property that
will be annexed is not included in this agreement. It does not violate the
agreement. He further stated that he wanted to thank the Board members for
volunteering to do this job, he appreciates their help and wished the members
success with the combined Board.
There being no further business to come before the Board, upon motion made
by Mr. Wheeler to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Chenoweth, the meeting was
adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Susan Mista
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