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CITY OF EDGEWATER
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
APRIL 18, 1984
Minutes
Chairman Bennington called the regular meeting to order at 7:02 P.M.,
in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Messrs. Wheeler, Finn, Chenoweth, Quaggin, Stewart,
Bennington and Ann Thomas. Also present: Secretary, Susan Mista, and
one member of the press.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Wheeler made a motion to approve the minutes of the April 4, 1984,
meeting, seconded by Mrs. Thomas. Motion CARRIED 5-2. Mr. Chenoweth and
Mr. Stewart abstained, as they were not present at that meeting.
SITE PLAN REVIEWS
SP-8312 - Paul Loeffler - Industrial Building Addition - 821 W. Park Av.
Chairman Bennington called for a representative regarding this site plan,
there being no representative present, Mr. Wheeler made a motion to TABLE
this site plan, seconded by Mr. Stewart. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
SP-8422 - Edwin H. Hall - Duplex - India Palm Drive and 20th Street
Ronald Lucas was present to represent this site plan.
Chairman Bennington read the comments from the Department Head Supervisors.
The Building Official requested a party wall be constructed between the
duplexes. Mr. Lucas agreed to amend the plans to show same. The letter
from Briley, Wild stated the only requirement for drainage was that the
lot be graded toward India Palm Drive.
Chairman Bennington questioned the trees to be planted on the property.
Mr. Lucas stated there is presently one large tree in the back and the
other four trees will be planted. Chairman Bennington advised that the
first 5' of property across the front must be landscaped.
Mr. Lucas questioned the Board regarding the water retention. He asked
if they were not supposed to retain the water on the property. Chairman
Bennington said, yes. Mr. Lucas said this project will have gutters on
it and swales will be constructed to keep the water on the property.
Chairman Bennington said he did not know why Scott Spooner from Briley,
Wild advised that the lot be graded toward India Palm for drainage.
Mrs. Thomas made a motion to give this site plan final approval, subject
to planting four trees on the property and landscaping the first 5' in
the front. Mr. Chenoweth seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
SP-8423 - William Riggle - Quadraplex - Fern Palm ~rive
Mr. Riggle was present to discuss the site plan.
Chairman Bennington stated that this was a sketch plan review. Mr.
Riggle advised the Board that this proposed project is located on the
east side of the street, not the west as is shown on the application.
He further explained that there will be four separate units, with an
upstairs and downstairs for each unit.
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The Board determined that these units would be considered townhouses.
After reading the Code requirements for townhouses, it was noted that
he meets the requirements for setbacks, parking, size of units. Chair-
man Bennington advised Mr. Riggle that the Department Head Supervisors
would probably require him to put a fire wall in between the units. He
also advised that the first 5' of the property must be landscaped, accor-
ding to the Ordinance. He further stated that he will have to comply
with the Tree Ordinance, which would mean planting approximately 5 trees
on the property for the lot size.
Mrs. Thomas made a motion to approve this sketch plan, seconded by Mr.
Finn. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
OLD BUSINESS
Review B6 zone concerning setback requirements and possibility of rezoning
to B3.
Chairman Bennington explained to the members who were not at the last
meeting that in reviewing the setbacks in the various zones, they found
that there are only two pieces of property in the City zoned B6, both
on Park Avenue. One is on the east side of the shopping plaza where the
First Stop Restaurant is, comprising of 4 or 5 lots; on the west side of
Park Avenue there are two lots and they are being used as a parking lot.
It was the recommendation of the Board members that these pieces of
property be rezoned to B3 because B3 is in the middle on both sides and
across the street. The only thing that could not be built in B3 that
can be built in B6 is a hospital and the property is not large enough to
build a hospital.
A discussion then ensued concerning rezoning this property to B3. All of
the Board members agreed that this property should be rezoned to B3.
Mrs. Thomas made a motion that a recommendation be sent to Council to
rezone the property located on Park Avenue that is presently zoned B6 to
B3 for the reason that this property is surrounded on all sides by B3 and
rezoning it would give more uniformity to the district being B3. Mr.
Stewart seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
Review and vote on proposed changes for Permitted Uses in B2 and B3 zones.
Chairman Bennington stated that the Board has been over these Permitted
Uses a few times and they decided not to vote on sending the recommendation
to Council for the changes at the last meeting because not all of the
members were present to vote on same. He asked if anyone had any changes
or any other recommendations concerning these two zones. Mr. Chenoweth
said he thought the list was good the way it was and no changes need to
be made.
Mr. Chenoweth made a motion to send the corrected list of Permitted Uses
in the B2 and B3 zones to Council and recommend that same be added to the
880 Ordinance. Mr. Wheeler seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
Review parking requirements in B2 and B3 zones.
Mr. Wheeler said he had checked several places for parking requirements
and he found that there is not sufficient parking spaces for El Toro.
Chairman Bennington said that El Toro is in the process of adding an
addition and they are supposed to put in a completely landscaped parking
lot across Boston and it is not there. He suggested that the secretary
check and see if El Toro has completed their renovation of the building.
There was supposed to be a completely landscaped parking lot across to
the north side of Boston. He said this may have to be turned over to the
Code Enforcement Board if they have not complied with the Code requirements.
Chairman Bennington said he had some changes that he thought should be
made. He referred the Board to page 1623 of the Code under section (d) (1) ,
regarding entrance and exit driveways wherein it reads: a minimum width
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of 12 feet for double access ways and twenty feet for single access ways
serving mUlti-family or non-residential districts. Chairman Bennington
said either this is a misprint or has been put in backwards. He suggested
that it be recommended to change this section to read: 20' for double
access ways and 12' for single access ways. All of the Board members
agreed with his suggestion.
Chairman Bennington referred the Board members to page 1623, section (e)
under Duplex and multi-family the Code reads: l~ parking spaces on the
same lot for each dwelling unit. He said that under the requirements for
R4 zoning, it requires 2 parking spaces for each dwelling unit. It was
his suggestion that section (e) be changed to read 2 spaces per dwelling
unit. All of the Board members agreed with this suggestion.
In reference to the same, 1623, under section (d)(2) the Code reads: Be
graded - parking lot entrances and exits shall be graded. He referred
the Board members to page 1529 under the definition for off-street parking
space it says a permanently surfaced area for the parking of a motor
vehicle. He said he interpretted that to mean something permanent. Mr.
Chenoweth said he thought it meant blacktopping or concrete. Chairman
Bennington said he thought it was foolish to require paved parking on a
dirt street and the City should not force someone to put in a permanently
surfaced parking lot when they have to drive down a dirt street to get
to it. The dust would deteriorate the permanent surface. It was his
recommendation that section (d)(2) on page 1623 be changed to read:
A permanently surfaced area. All of the Board members agreed to this
change.
Chairman Bennington referred to page 1625 where banks are listed under the
category "Office buildings, banks and similar institutions" wherein one
parking space for every 200 square feet of gross floor area is required.
It was his recommendation to take "banks" out and list them separately,
requiring 3 parking spaces per teller, plus 1 parking space per 200 sq.
ft. of floor area, plus 1 parking space per employee. A discussion then
ensued concerning the Southeast Bank parking lot on U.S. 1, across from
the Florida Shores shopping center. Mr. Stewart stated he felt it should
be 5 parking spaces per teller. The Board members decided to look at
this situation more closely and discuss it at the next meeting.
Concerning coin laundries, Chairman Bennington stated there presently
exists no requirements for these establishments. It was his recommendation
that a separate item be listed with parking requirements of 1 per 2'~k~hing
machinffi and 1 per employee. The Board members agreed to this suggestion.
The category of "restaurants" was discussed and the Board agreed to change
the parking requirements for "Restaurants and Lounges" to read: 1 parking
space for each 4 seats and 1 parking space for each bar stool, plus 1
parking space for each 2 employees on the largest shift.
The Board members agreed to add the category, "Game Rooms" to the parking
requirements list, with the requirement of one parking space per each
two machines, plus other required parking.
Review square footage requirements in all zones.
Mr. Wheeler suggested that they TABLE this discussion to the next meeting.
All .of the members agreed with his suggestion.
Chairman Bennington advised the Board that Paul Loeffler was present and
asked if the Board wished to remove his site plan from the table. Mr.
Wheeler made a motion to remove SP-83l2 from the table, seconded by Mrs.
Thomas. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
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SP-83l2 - Paul Loeffler - Industrial Building Addition - 821 W. Park Av.
Chairman Bennington read the letter from Scott Spooner of Briley, Wild
concerning this site plan, dated 4-13-84, wherein he stated that the
stormwater management system is insufficient and should be increased in
volume, elevations should be shown on the drawings, etc. Mr. Loeffler
gave Chairman Bennington a new letter from Scott Spooner, with a revised
drawing. The new letter, dated 4-18-84, stated that the revised plans
were reviewed and he accepted the changes and recommended that the site
plan be given final approval in reference to the stormwater management
review.
Chairman Bennington calculated the value of the proposed addition to be
approximately $62,500, which requires an architect's seal on the plans.
After the Board members reviewed the letter from Scott Spooner, dated
4-18-84, and the revised site plans, Mr. Chenoweth made a motion to
give this site plan final approval, subject to the Building Official
receiving an architect's sealed set of plans prior to issuing a building
permit. Mrs. Thomas seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 7-0.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Bennington referred to the letter received from Southern Bell
concerning authorization to install unmanned public utility equipment
buildings, not to exceed 500 square feet, throughout the City.
A discussion then ensued concerning this letter. The Board members had
many questions regarding this request and they decided it would be best
to ask Mrs. Pat Wallace, the person who wrote the letter, to corne to
the next Board meeting and answer the questions and to bring with her
a set of plans, showing what these building will look like, prior to
sending a recommendation to Council on this request.
There being no further business to corne before the Board, upon motion
made by Mr. Wheeler to adjourn, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, the meeting was
adjourned at 8:10 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Susan Mista
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