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CITY OF EDGEWATER
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 15, 1984
Minutes
Chairman Don Bennington called the regular meeting to order at 7:03 P.M.,
in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Messrs. Finn, Quaggin, Poland, Bennington, and Mrs.
Ann Thomas. Mr. Wheeler was excused and Mr. Chenoweth was absent. Also
present: secretary, Susan Mista.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Quaggin made a motion to accept the minutes of the August 1, 1984,
meeting, seconded by Mr. Poland. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
SITE PLAN REVIEW
SP-844l - William Riggle - Duplex - 1700 Block on Fern Palm Drive.
Chairman Bennington explained that an error was made concerning approval
of this site plan at the last Planning and Zoning Board meeting, wherein
the Board approved same for preliminary and final, advising that Mr.
Riggle did not need a variance from the Board of Adjustments. He further
stated that the Board erroneously advised Mr. Riggle that the rear yard
setback was in compliance with the Code requirements, however, the area
requirement is what the variance was needed for. Mr. Riggle did, in fact,
have to go before the Board of Adjustments and was granted a variance for
the area requir.ement, subject to the Planning and Zoning Board stating
that the site plan is in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan.
Mrs. Thomas made a motion that this site plan is in compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Finn seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Bennington read the letter from Dennis Fischer, Code Enforcement
Officer, regarding violation of SP-8355 - J.C. Carder, Retail Boat Sales.
Mr. Fischer explained that he met with Dan Herman, Mr. Carder's represent-
ative, who advised him that they would install the 11 parking spaces and
stepping stones or shell to extend from the building toward Pelican Drive.
Mr. Herman also advised that there would be no more alterations to the rear
of the building. Mr. Fischer stated that a follow-up on this situation
would be made in 10 days and if compliance has not been met, same would be
forwarded to the Code Enforcement Board for further action.
Mr. Poland questioned as to whether or not this matter has been resolved or
turned over to the Code Enforcement Board for further action. Chairman
Bennington stated that if there has been no more alteration to the rear
of the building, they are still in violation and he assumes it has gone
to the Code Enforcement Board.
A discussion then ensued concerning who has the authority to enforce the
Code requirements and how Code enforcement is handled. The members all
agreed that if a system has already been established concerning these
violations, then the proper authorities need to pursue these violations to
make the system work.
Chairman Bennington stated that if someone is in violation of the site plan
that was submitted, the Building Official can refuse to issue a Certificate
of Occupancy until the matter is rectified. However, he added that it is
his understanding that the applicants do not always pick up the CO and the
violations are never resolved. Further, he stated that at the last meeting
when the City Engineer, Mr. Ferrara, was present, Mr. Ferrara suggested that
the Building Official refuse to turn on the power if the project is not in
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compliance with the original site plan. The Board members decided that
a letter be sent to the Code Enforcement Officer, requesting a status
report on all of the violations that this Board has sent him. The site
plans in question include Pelican Cove - sidewalks are to be installed in
the subdivision; J.C. Carder - Retail Boat Sales concerning rear setback,
sidewalk and defined parking area installed, and structure was to be used
for boat sales, not storage; Jose's Pizza - parking area and driveway
entrance and exit; BJ's Flowers - driveway to extend completely around
the building and defined parking area; Paul Loeffler - drainage problem;
Fat Bob's Restaurant - landscaping and parking; Casa EI Toro Lounge -
parking.
Mr. Opal, a member of the audience, questioned the new apartment complex
on Marion Avenue being developed by Edwin Hall, wherein all of the trees
on the project site have been removed. Chairman Bennington advised that
the developer is going to plant trees on the project after it has been
completed. Mr. Opal questioned whether or not the sign that is posted on
the front of the property is in violation of the Code due to the fact that
it is very large and it was his opinion that a sign of this size is not
allowed in the City limits. Chairman Bennington stated that he did not
know if the sign was in violation or not. He further added that there are
a lot of Ordinance violations and in the past there has been no one to
enforce them. Now the City has hired David Jones who will be working on
a part time basis and part of his job will be to enforce the violations
that exist in the City.
OLD BUSINESS
Review Definitions ln Code.
Chairman Bennington advised that the Board was given a list of the defin-
itions that had been worked on by the Zoning Commission and the Planning
Commission in the past. He stated that the Boards have been working on
these definitions for quite some time and, hopefully, this will be the
last time they have to go over them and the updated list can be sent to
Council for approval in the near future.
As a result of the discussions concerning the changes in the definitions
section of the Code, the following changes were agreed upon:
ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS: Property owners with land contiguous to the
property in question. Omit the wording: "not crossing streets".
APARTMENT - GARDEN: Use the definition used in the Winter Springs Ordinance -
Multifamily dwelling units not to exceed three (3) stories in height.
Typically, garden apartments have units one above the other with several
units sharing a common entrance hall or court.
BUFFER: A six (6) foot high screen that is kept in a neat and presentable
condition at all times and consists of either a decorative wooden fence,
a decorative concrete block wall or plant material of sufficient opacity
and density to prevent visual penetration, or a combination of any of the
three. If plant material is used, it must be three (3) feet in height at
planting.
BUILDING, FRONT OF: Remove.
CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY: Change title to read - "CHANGE OF USE" - definition
to remain the same.
DWELLING - TWO-FAMILY: A dwelling designed for or occupied by two (2)
families, and having separate housekeeping and cooking facilities for each
family with each unit separated by a party wall having a two (2) hout.fire
rating: The word "two-family-dwell:ing" includes the word "duplex".
FAMILY: Use the definition used in the Dania Ordinance, changing 3 persons
to 5, to read: An individual, or two (2) or more persons related by legal
adoption, blood or a licit marriage, or a group of not more than five (5)
persons who need not be related by blood or marriage, living together as
a single housekeeping unit in a dwelling.
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LOT - CORNER: A parcel of land abbutting the intersection of two (2) or
more streets.
OFF- STREET PARKING SPACES: Same as in Code _, us lng "hard" surfaced area.
PATIO HOMES: Use definition used by Winter Springs Ordinance: Single-
family dwelling units with a private outdoor living area, the side walls
of which may be party or lot line walls and having a minimum two-hour
fire rating. Patio homes are designed and constructed to be individually
owned and are sometimes referred to as cluster houses, single-family
attached dwelling units, -atrium houses, or court garden houses.
TOWNHOUSE: Use definition used in Cocoa Beach Ordinance in which the
Board changed to read as follows: A dwelling unit consisting of a minimum
group of three (3) and a maximum of eight (8) such units, each separated
by adjoining contiguous fire walls having a minimum two-hour fire rating.
A townhouse is typically more than single story and individually owned
from the land to the roof. Each townhouse shall be independently served
by separate heating, air conditioning, sewer, water, electric, power, gas
and other utility services.
STREET: The Board decided to use the seven (7) definitions under the
Subdivision Ordinance, Page 1709, for the definitions for Street, Arterial,
Collector, Cul-de-sac, Loca~ Marginal Access, and Public Street.
It was the agreement of the Board members that any and all multi-family
definitions include the wording, "having a minimum two-hour fire rating".
The Board members asked that these corrections be added to the agenda for
the next meeting for final reading before sending to Council for the
recommended changes.
Review requirements of Satellite Dishes to be added to Code.
Chairman Bennington advised that he had not had time to review the Ordin-
ances from other cities governing satellite dishes and suggested that this
matter be tabled to the next meeting and that everyone study same prior to
the meeting. It was his opinion that these Ordinances were not adequate
in their wording and a new Ordinance needs to be comprised in regulating
these dishes. The Board members agreed to table this to the next meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
Review Stormwater Management Ordinance.
Chairman Bennington advised that the present Stormwater Management Ordinance
requires calculations for site plan approval needed on those plans that are
an acre or more in size, however, he stated that the City is, at the present
time, requiring stormwater management calculations on all site plans, re-
gardless of the size. He further stated that Mr. Ferrara, the City Engineer,
suggested at the last meeting that they use the figure of 1,000 square feet
in requiring the calculations on site plans. That figure includes the
building and parking area. Anything over 1,000 square feet needs the cal-
culations. Also, Mr. Ferrara suggested that an addition can be added up
to 1,000 square feet, one time, without having to have the calculations.
Mr. Poland said that he agrees with the purpose for stormwater management
calculations and site plan approval concerning construction in the City,
however, it was his opinion that these requirements create a problem to
some individuals in hiring an engineer to do the stormwater management
calculations, at a cost of approximately $2,000, just to find out whether
or not he can open a business or construct a new business. He said he felt
it was the purpose of the Planning and Zoning Board to help the City grow
in the right direction, not put restrictions or hardships on applicants,
thereby slowing down or stopping the growth of the City. He suggested
using the percentage of land that will be used to determine which plans
require stormwater management calculations. Concerning commerical building,
he suggested that the calculations only be required on buildings valued at
more than $25,000. The Building Code does not require a general contractor
to prepare the plans on a commercial building of less than $25,000 in value,
therefore, the applicant should not be required to have an engineer prepare
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stormwater management calculations for buildings valued under $25,000.
Chairman Bennington stated that the present Ordinance says these calcul-
ations are not required under an acre in size, however, the City is
requiring them on all site plans. Chairman Bennington questioned where
you draw the line as to who does need them and who does not. He said that
the State laws establish some of the requirements concerning the 100 year
flood plane and the areas involved therein. It was his opinion that Mr.
Ferrara's figure of 1,000 square feet was rather low in that it would be
very difficult to build anything with only 1,000 square feet, including
the parking area.
The Board members agreed to study the Ordinances that were furnished them
from the Florida League of Cities and discuss this at the next Board meeting.
There being no further business to come before the Board, upon motion made
by Mr. Quaggin to adjourn, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:25 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Susan Mista
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