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09-04-1985 . u u CITY OF EDGEWATER PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 4, 1985 Minutes Vice Chairman Jake Wheeler called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 P.M., in the Community Center building. ROLL CALL Members present: Messrs. Jake Wheeler, Fred Finn, George Quaggin, James Poland, Jim Mackie and Paul Loeffler. Chairman Don Bennington was excused from the meeting. Also present: Susan Wadsworth, Deputy City Clerk, Susan Butler, secretary and various other people in the audience. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES Mr. Quaggin made a motion to approve the minutes of August 7, 1985, Regular Meeting, seconded by Mr. Mackie. Motion CARRIED 6-0. SITE PLAN REVIEW SP-8515 - Harris Construction Company for George Crandall - Bakery Mr. Larry Harris and Mr. George Crandall were present to discuss this site plan. Mr. Quaggin stated, according to B-3 zoning, bakeries are to be non-manufacturing and addressed this issue to the Board. Vice Chairman Wheeler asked Mr. Crandall if he was going to manufacture on the premises, to which Mr. Crandall answered yes. Susan Wadsworth informed the Board that she believed the City Council had amended non-manufacturing due to an error in the Municipal Code printing and that she would further investigate the matter. Mr. Harris informed the Board that they are remodeling the interior and exterior of an existing building. One of the principle concerns discussed was the seating capacity in relationship to parking. The Board determined that Mr. Crandall had the required number of parking spaces. Final topic of discussion was that Mr. Crandall's bakery would have to comply with the Fire Code. Mr. Mackie made the motion to accept the site plan pending approval of the Code relating to manufacturing in the Ordinance, Mr. Loeffler seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. SP-8518 - Cardinal Industries, Inc. Mr. Joe Spears, real estate representative with Cardinal Industries, was present to discuss this sketch plan. Mr. Spears informed the Board that the Millers are the property owners and he is the agent for Cardinal Industries in the purchase of the Miller property. He further stated that they have an option on the purchase of the Miller property with an extent ion clause. Mr. Spears explained that his intent this evening was to receive the Board's comments regarding any glaring mistakes his staff over looked before Cardinal Industries went through the expense of preparing the final site plan and wasting the Board's time and theirs. He also asked the Board's reaction to anything problematic. u u Mr. Mackie noted one-hundred and twenty-three (123) paved parking spaces on the sketch plan and questioned Mr. Spears if the area marked green space package was also for parking. Mr. Spears answered yes, that it was for future parking if it ever became necessary for additional required parking. Mr. Mackie advised Mr. Spears that one and a half (1~) parking spaces was not sufficient. Mr. Spears said they could convert the green space into paving, but preferred to provide less asphalt so that they could keep the landscape in and not have parking that he felt was not needed. Mr. Poland remarked that there was only one entrance. Mr. Spears replied that they would like to keep just one entrance for ingress and egress, so that they could control who enters and leaves the property. Furthermore, he stated that they would like to eliminate the mosquito ditch which had been terminated at the boundary between their property and Shangri-La by stabilizing that area so that emergency vehicles could use the same entrance for ingress and egress. Vice Chairman Wheeler asked if the housing units are ownership or rentals. Mr. Spears said they would be rental apartments with on site management. The Board then discussed the subject of R-4 zoning which requires a minimum of seven-hundred and fifty (750) square feet per single bedroom dwelling unit and the problem of Cardinal's one bedroom being only five-hundred and seven- ty-six (576) square feet and consequently they would need a variance. Mr. Poland expressed his opinion that in the future the Board should closely examine and consider changing the required minimum square footage of rental units to accommodate today's increasing population which does not need larger units. He further stated that as a result of the current size structure a lot of old motels in Edgewater have been converting into permanent rental facilities which were approximately three-hundred (300) square feet and Cardinal's five-hundred and seventy-six (576) square feet was certainly up-grading over the alternative. Mr. Quaggin stated that Terry Wadsworth said that adequate water capacity is not there at present and that it may be a year or two before water could be supplied. Mr. Spears stated that they knew that there was a problem right now with the utilities but if they could get the approval now to go through the system, including variance on the square footage, then they could extend their option. A lengthy discussion ensued as to whether to address this issue as a variance through the Board of Adjustment or to change the Ordinances through the City Council. Mr. Mackie made the motion to table until the next meeting on September 10:00 A.M., in order for the Board to receive more information to make a valid recommendation to the Council. Mr. Quaggin seconded the motion. CARRIED 6-0. 18, 1985, more Motion SP-8514 - Sun Bank Mr. Norman Miller and Mr. Steve Hall were present to discuss this site plan. The Sun Bank requested that the building be moved forward nine (9) feet, and still retain a five (5) foot buffer, so that they could clear the trunk of a thirty-one inch tre~ trunk. -2- Planning and Zoning Board Meeting September 4, 1985 u u Mr. Poland made the motion that they approve the revised site plan with the movement of the bank by nine (9) feet to the east, Mr. Loeffler seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. CERTIFICATE OF ZONING REQUESTS COZ-85-10 Clay A. Lyles - 1947 W. Park Avenue - Manufacturing surfboards. No one was present to discuss this request. Mr. Poland made the motion to table, Mr. Mackie seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-11 - Patricia Bradshaw - 1863 Guava - Repair service -Lawn mowers - Retail Sales. No one was present to discuss this request. Mr. Poland made the motion to table, Mr. Mackie seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-13 - John R. Swain - 203 W. Marion - Auto body shop. Mr. John Swain was present to discuss this request. Mr. Poland questioned the Board as to how many parking spaces would Mr. Swain's business require. The Board determined that Mr. Swain would need four parking spaces. There being no problems with Mr. Swain's request to operate his business in this location, Mr. Loeffler made a motion to accept this zoning request, Mr. Poland seconded. MOtion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-16 - Greg C. Stewart - 706 F. Wet Park Avenue - Manufacturing building components. Mr. Greg C. Stewart was present to discuss this request with the Board. Mr. Quaggin asked Mr. Stewart the location of his parking. Mr. Stewart explained that directly in front of the building, they have four spaces and an adjacent shell surfaced lot in which they can put another four parking spaces. Mr. Poland asked Mr. Stewart if the shell area was owned by Mr. Wagner, to which he replied yes and further explained that they were just renting. Mr. Stewart stated that they have storage inside the building and when a delivery truck arrives, only one space is required for unloading at the overhead doors. He also said that one of the three employees is a salesman and is continuously on the road; one is an operator and the other is a helper. The Board had an extensive discussion concerning the location of the parking spaces. Mrs. Bennington communicated to the Board that Planning and Zoning had previously approved the building and at previous meetings, the same type of industry had been approved, including parking. Mr. Loeffler made a motion to accept this zoning request, Mr. Mackie seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-19 - Al Rissell - 706 H. West Park Avenue - Welding 2nd steel fabrication. Mr. Al Rissell was present to discuss this request. Mr. Mackie asked Mr. Rissell if he prefabricated for the customers. Mr. Rissell replied 'he fabricated for the customers. Mr. Poland made a motion to accept, Mr. Mackie seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. -3- Planning and Zoning Board Meeting September 4, 1985 u u COZ-85-20 - James E. Diamond - 1804 Hibiscus Drive - Wholesale Brokerage. Mr. James E. Diamond was present to discuss this request. Mr. Diamond stated that in essence his business was just a desk and telephone inside an established business. Mr. Mackie asked Mr. Diamond what kind of electronic equipment was he wholesaling. Mr. Diamond answered telephones, radios, televisions and separators. Mr. Mackie also asked him if his business was going to be a telephone soliciting business from the office. Mr. Diamond explained that he would receive phone calls from allover the United States and he would find specific merchandise they requested. Mr. Diamond stated that he does business with numerous resorts. Mr. Poland made the motion to accept, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-21 - Ruth K. Hope - 2311 S. Ridgewood Avenue - Adult Book Store. No one was present to represent this request. Mr. Mackie made the motion to table, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-22 - Walter T. Pageau - 2518 Hibiscus - Service to repair furniture. Mr. Walter T. Pageau was present to discuss this request. The Board members reviewed the sketch plan. Mr. Mackie asked Mr. Pageau if he had eight (8) parking spaces. answered that there was a strong possibility that he might have parking spaces but that any other business that might occupy the require some of the eight (8) parking spaces. Mr. Pageau eight (8) building may The Board then had a discussion about the size of the building being 140' x 33'_ and containing eight (8) to ten (10) stalls, and Mr. Pageau occupying one stall. Mr. Quaggin asked Mr. Pageau what type of material did he use for stripping furniture. Mr. Pageau said that he refinished the furniture outside and that the Federal Government has rules that require almost every chemical he used be water soluble. Discussed in depth was the topic of Mr. Pageau's business complying with the Fire Code and fire safety precautions. Being concerned with the parking situation, the Board again discussed this topic in length. It was determined that the owner of the building had enough adjacent land to develop for future parking. Mr. Mackie made the motion to accept this site plan, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. COZ-85-23 - Gary Bass - 1852 Hibiscus Drive - Wood products - Retail Sales. Mr. and Mrs. Gary Bass were present to discuss this request. After considerable discussion, the Board agreed that Mr. Bass's business was in compliance with the zoning, but the type of building and inadequate bathroom facilities, did not comply with Code requirements. Mr. Loeffler made the motion to deny, Mr. Poland seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0. -4- Planning and Zoning Board Meeting September 4, 1985 u u NEW BUSINESS Memo from City Clerk/Subject on C.A.R. Enterprises Because of the time needed to discuss this issue, Chairman Bennington had requested, through a memo to the Board members, that this subject be reviewed at the September 18, 1985, 10:00 A.M. Planning and Zoning Board Meeting. Mr. Finn made the motion to table, Mr. Poland seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. Mr. James Lee Conley, Mr. John Moote and Attorney Rick Kolodinsky were present and asked the Board to discuss this issue. Mr. Poland made the motion to take this subject off the table, Mr. Mackie seconded. Motion CARRIED 5-1. Mr. Quaggin voted No. Attorney Kolodinsky stated that, in a telephone conversation with Attorney Jose' Alvarez, that Attorney Alvarez had revised his opinion and C.A.R. Enterprises was entitled to operate their business. After a brief discussion, Mr. Quaggin made a motion to table, Mr. Finn seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-1. Mr. Poland voted No. Mr. Poland made a motion to request Mr. Jose' Alvarez presence to attend the September 18, 1985, 10:00 A.M. Planning and Zoning Board meeting. Mr. Loeffler seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0. Memo from City Clerk/Subject on request to vacate 15 foot alley. After considerable discussion, the consensus of the Board was to deny this request. Mr. Mackie made the motion to deny. Mr. Poland seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0. Memo from City Clerk/Subject on house numbering project. After substantial discussion, the Board decided to table this subject for further review. Mr. Loeffler made the motion, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. Memo from City Clerk/Subject on E. A. Pilch Construction, Inc. Re: Recreational Impact Fees vs. Land. Attorney Rick Kolodinsky and Ted Pilch were present to discuss this subject. Vice Chairman Wheeler affirmed with Mr. Pilch that the plans he submitted to the Board were of his land that he wanted to present to Planning and Zoning for comment. Mr. Mackie suggested that this issue be sent back to the Parks and Recreational Board, that they should be the one to make a decision. Mr. Mackie also stated that City Council could over rule any decision, therefore, he recommended that the Council consider this offer and look into possible uses for it. Mr. Poland felt that acceptance would alleviate a safety hazard at the Elementary School regarding the traffic pattern and children going and coming from school. Mr. Poland made a motion to recommend to the Council that they consider this offer, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 5-1. Mr. Quaggin voted No. -5- Planning and Zoning Board Meeting September 4, 1985 u u MISCELLANEOUS Robbins Radiator Works and Auto Air, Inc. Mr. Fred Cichowski, Chief Accountant, and Ronnie Robbins were present to ask the Board if their business would be a permitted use at 322 North Ridgewood. Mr. Cichowski stated and one in Daytona. at the same location that Robbins Radiator Works has two shops, one in Deland, He also said that the Daytona shop had been in business for sixty-four (64) years. Mr. Cichowski stated that the purchase of the property was contingent upon the City of Edgewater's approval of their business in this B-3 zoned district and the closing date would be September 30, 1985. Mr. Mackie made a motion to accept this type of business in the City of Edgewater in B-3, Mr. Poland seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. Mr. Poland made a motion that a survey, showing the location of the building and any adjacent streets, accompany the request for Certificate of Zoning and the application form be complete. Mr. Wheeler asked the Board if they wanted to go back to two meetings a month. Mr. Poland made the motion that beginning in the month of October that the Planning and Zoning Board meet the first and third Wednesday of the month, Mr. Finn seconded. Motion CARRIED 6-0. There being no further business to come before the Board, upon motion made by Mr. Mackie, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 P.M. Minutes submitted by: Susan Butler -6- Planning and Zoning Board Meeting September 4, 1985