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CITY OF EDGEWATER
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
NOVEMBER 21, 1985
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Chairman Don Bennington called the regular meeting to order at 9:00 A.M.
in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Messrs. Don Bennington, Jake Wheeler Fred Finn,
George Quaggin and Paul Loeffler. Mr. James Poland was excused.
Susan Wadsworth, Deputy City Clerk and Jan Morris, Secretary.
James Mackie,
Also present:
SITE PLAN REVIEWS
SP-8528 - J. C. CARDER/BELMONT HOMES - PELICAN COVE WEST CLUBHOUSE - 298 FALCON AVE.
Mr. Bennington read a letter from Mr. Gerard Ferrara, City Engineer, in reference to the
Pelican Cove West (Block B). Mr. Ferrara stated the proposed storm water
retention basin has never been constructed and there is a ten foot (10') easement in
the area that should be looked at closely, therefore it is his recommendation, at
this time, not to approve a building permit at this site.
Mr. Bennington said the County Plat books did not agree with the plans on file.
The County shows the area as unplatted.
Mr. Ron Lucas, representing J. C. Carder, stated that the drainage problems will be
alleviated. The particular catch basin was eliminated but they are making changes
to the other retention area to take care of it.
Mr. Lucas stated the main thing they wanted information about was the parking.
He stated they knew they needed spaces for loading, unloading and the handicapped,
however, if the homeowners want to use the Clubhouse, they would have to walk
because Mr. Carder does not want to use that much land. The Board questioned
Mr. Lucas about outside uses of the clubhouse, such as weddings, etc. Mr. Lucas
stated there would have to be a stipulation that it is a private club and such
uses would be illegal.
The Board expressed concern that people would not want to walk to club activities
and would be parking along the street, using the residents parking areas.
Mr. Paul LaFreniere, Vice President of the Homeowners Association, stated that
orginally the site was way in the back where it wasn't going to bother anyone,
now it was adjacent to a homeowner, who wasn't happy about it. Mr. Mackie
asked what the majority of the people living there wanted in regards to the
clubhouse. Mr. Lafreniere replied they really didn't have a vote on it.
Mr. Wheeler stated he thought the developer and the homeowners should get
together and decide the proper place to put the clubhouse.
Mr. Bennington stated as near as we can find out it still is zoned County R-3
that the City has never zoned it.
Mr. Bennington stated the first legal question is, can they put a clubhouse there,
If not what needs to be done to change that?
Mr. Lucas said they would work on it and see what can be done.
SP-8529 - LUIS GEIL - PROFESSIONAL OFFICES - 612 NORTH RIDGEWOOD AVE.
Mr. Geil was present to discuss this site plan.
Mr. Dennis Fischer, Building Official, related to the Board that the entrance
and exit should be one way, with the entrance off North Ridgewood and the exit
onto Live Oak Street. Mr. Fischer showed the Board where the turn lanes are
located on North Ridgewood in relation to the property. Mr. Fischer, also
suggested forty-five degree (450) angle parking.
Mr. Bennington read the report from the Police Department, stating they had
good access to the property with poor exit to Ridgewood. Street lights are
located at the Northeast and one at the Southwest of the property. Street
signs are not posted at this time on the north end of Live Oak Street.
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Mr. Bennington stated another problem is this property is zoned shopping center.
It has to have a fifty foot (50') setback from the right-of-way and twenty-five
foot (25') setback from any other property line. Also, there must be minimum
two (2) acre site and an entrance must be one-hundred (100') from a major intersection.
Mr. Geil stated the site was too small, there won't be anything left.
Mr. Bennington related his concern of plans to cut down a twenty-five foot (25')
oak tree on the site. Mr. Geil stated the tree was dead.
Mr. Bennington said he thought they had to look at rezoning it B-3 or get a variance.
The Board agree that Mr. Geil should go to the Board of Adjustments to get a variance;
and to make entrance only on North Ridgewood and exit onto Live Oak and to post signs
at both places, also to change parking to angle parking and landscape the front.
They told Mr. Geil once this is done to come back to them for final approval.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion to table the subject, seconded by Mr. Mackie.
CARRIED 6-0.
COZ 85-47, COZ 85-48, and COZ 85-49, DR. THOMAS YANDELL AND BEE J. YANDELL
PROFESSIONAL PHYSICAL THERAPY, MEDICAL CLINIC AND CHIROPRACTIC, 201 S. RIDGEWOOD ARE.
Mr. Mark Northrup was present to discuss these certificates of zoning.
The Board related to Mr. Northrup that the paper work was not complete. They
said they could not tell which unit they were using or how many parking spaces
there are. Mr. Bennington explained that they needed five (5) parking spaces
for each doctor and one for each employee. Mr. Northrup said they had two doctors
and six employees, therefore, they would need a total of sixteen (16) parking spaces.
The Board stated they needed to know what existing business were there and how
many parking spaces they were using. Mr. Bennington said the Board needs information
on the interior walls of the structure.
The Board told Mr. Northrup he would be informed of what else is needed after
they figure out the parking and size of structure.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion to table until we have more information, seconded by
Mr. Loeffler. CARRIED 6-0.
COZ 85-50 CHELSEA TITLE AND GUARANTY - PROFESSIONAL TITLE INS. CO., 600 N. RIDGEWOOD B-5
The Board reviewed a certificate of zoning for Chelsea Title. It was stated there
was ample parking for all the businesses in that area.
Mr. Wheeler made a motion to approve the COZ For Chelsea Title and Guaranty,
seconded by Mr. Loeffler. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
COZ 85-51 OASIS CLUB PRODUCTS, INC. 702 A-I PARK AVENUE
The Board reviewed the application of Oasis Club Products, Inc. finding everything
in order and ample parking spaces.
A motion was made by Mr. Loeffler to approve the COZ for Oasis Club Products.
Mr. Wheeler seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
OLD BUSINESS:
Mr. Bennington stated they still hadn't received the information on the
Sign Ordinance 79-0-25.
Mr. Bennington read a memo from Robert Garthwaite, Chairman of the Board of
Adjustments in reference to street set backs in Florida Shores.
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Mrs. Murphy and Mr. Newell were present to discuss the street set backs. The
set backs referred to were the corner lots of streets running east and west.
It was stated you now need three lots in order to build on one of the corner
lots. The Board reviewed the codes for set backs and discussed at length.
Mr. Mackie made a motion to leave the set backs as they are. Motion seconded by
Mr. Wheeler. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
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Mr.~gtorr stated that Mr. Poland has been absent from seven meetings.
Susan Wadsworth informed the Board they had been excused absenteeism.
Mr. Mackie made a motion to send a letter to the City Council telling about
Mr. Poland's absences and ask them to consider replacing him. Motion seconded by
Mr. Wheeler. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
Mr. Bennington informed the Board he had attended a seminar and had received
a lot of up-dated information about storm drains, sewers, roads and canals.
He stated he would have a report for everyone as soon as he gets it typed.
There being no further business to come before the Board, Mr. Wheeler made
a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:50 A.M. Motion seconded by Mr. Mackie
and carried.
Minutes respectively submitted by:
Jan Morris
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