12-12-1985 - Workshop
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CITY OF EDGEWATER
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
WORKSHOP MEETING
DECEMBER 12, 1985
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Chairman Don Bennington called the workshop meeting to order at 9:00 A.M.
in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Members present: Messrs. Fred Finn, Jake Wheeler, Paul Loeffler, Jim Mackie
and Don Bennington, Also present: Dennis Fischer, Building Official,
Jan Morris, Secretary and several concerned Residents.
Mr. Bennington stated the purpose of the workshop meeting was to discuss
rear set backs within the City, preservation of open spaces along Riverside
Drive and to clearly define screen room/patio enclosures.
Mr. Bennington read a memo from Dennis Fischer stating his recommendations
for set back encroachments and screen room/patio definitions.
After a lengthy discussion the Board decided to accept the following recommendations:
1. Air conditioners at 3.5 ft. into the yard; 2. Awnings at 3 ft. into the yard;
3. Balconies at 5 ft. into the yard; 4. Fireplaces at 3 ft. into the yard;
5. Overhangs at 3 ft. into yard; 6. Sills at 1 ft. into the yard. Patio to read
concrete, brick or stone at grade 10 ft. from property line.
The Board discussed the driveway setback encroachments at 5 ft from sides
and rear property lines and added an exception of zero lot lines. Screen
room, Florida room and roofed patio (roof - 3 sides open) shall not extend
into setbacks for that areas required zoning was accepted by the Board as
recommended.
Mr. Fischer recommended that the definition of screen room be as follows:
screen room is an addition to the existing structure most commonly attached
to the fascia board, aluminum in nature, with roof and three sides open.
The Board accepted this recommendation.
The Board discussed the setback encroachments for Pelican Cove West, Phase I.
Mr. Fischer's recommendations were front 25 ft., sides 10 ft., rear 20 ft.,
with the exception of screen room ( 3 sides open) 8 ft. from rear property line.
The Board accepted these recommendations.
The Board discussed the zoning for the Pelican Cove West area. They concluded
that since this property has never been zoned after being annexed into the City
that it should be zoned R-4 with Phase I being zoned R-4A. The Chairman
stated that this property has been treated as R-4 on advice of former City
Attorney.
The Board decided to set a date at the next regular meeting for a public
hearing on the zoning of Pelican Cove West and changing the zoning setback
encroachments for the entire City.
The Board also decided to inquire as to
to the Developer of Pelican Cove West.
lots and if Phase II is platted.
what legal rights had been granted
They were concerned about the undersize
The next item open for discussion was the preservation of open spaces on
Riverside Drive. Several residents including Alice Murphy and John Gross
were present to discuss this subject.
Mrs. Murphy was concerned about people filling in submerged land in order
to build homes. She asked if the City could not regulate this or require
them to have a deed from the State showing they own the submerged land
and have a legal right to fill it in.
Mr. Gross stated the Army Corp of Engineers, Department of Environmental Regulations
and the Department of Natural Resources regulate the submerged lands and issue
fill permits.
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Mr. Fischer stated that the problem along Riverside Drive is the rear setbacks.
He said the code book reads 30 ft. from the rear property line which is
sometimes submerged land according to the surveys. He recommended that the
zoning ordinance be changed to read II rear yard 30 ft. from the high water
mark".
The Board discussed the non-conforming lots along Riverside Drive. They
discussed the people getting from the tax rolls previous to 1974, a map
drawing or plat showing the dimensions of the property and ownership.
Mr. Fischer told the Board he could require from an administrative level
1. Proof of survey; 2. Proof of vegetation location which can be obtained
from the Corp of Engineers; 3. A complete to po of the property; 4. elevations;
5. Mean high tide locations; 6. Required permits from the Corp of Engineers
for filling, dredging or location of pilings.
The Board decided to get whatever information is available from the State
as to how fill permits are issued and if the State issues deeds to the
people showing the owners property line or the State's property line in
conjunction to the River.
Mr. Fischer related to the Board another problem with front yard setbacks
along Riverside Drive. He stated that in some instances the property line
runs into the right-of-way and if they use it to determine the setback
then they end up with a setback less than what is actually there.
Mr. Fischer said as a common denominator use the center of the Road.
After discussion the Board decided a clear definition of the front
setback in that area would mean 65 ft. from the center point of the
existing paved road.
There being no other discussion the meeting was duly adjourned at 10:50 A.M.
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