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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 19, 1985
9:00 A.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
Mr. Jake Wheeler called to order a regular meeting of the Planning and
Zoning Board at 9:00 A.M., December 19, 1985 in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Members present: Messrs. Jake Wheeler, Paul Loeffler, Jim Mackie and
George Quaggin. Members excused were Don Bennington and Fred Finn.
Also present was Dennls~Fis~heE~~.guil~ing Official and Jan Morris, Secretary.
The minutes of December 5, 1985 were presented for approval. Mr.
Loeffler made a motion to accept the minutes as written. Mr Mackie
seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
SKETCH PLANS:
SP-8532
LUIS C. GEIL - OLD TYME GENERAL STORE OF EDGEWATER, INC. 30th STREET B-2
The Board reviewed a sketch plan for Mr. Geil, who requested to build a convenience
store and miniwarehouses at 30th Street between India Palm and Hibiscus.
The Board discussed the plans in relation to the B-2 zoning. It was stated
that the gas pumps are not a perillitted use in the B-2 zoning however there
is an ordinance in process to make this a permitted use if approved by
the City Council.
Mr. Loeffler made a motion to approve the sketch plan with the gas pumps
approval depending on the City Council's action on the ordinance amending
the B-2 zoning. Motion seconded by Mr. Mackie. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
SP-8533
LUIS C. GEIL - HALIFAX COURT - CONDOMINIUM RECREATION AREA B-3
The Board reviewed a sketch plan for Mr. Geil. Mr. Geil requested to amend
the plans for the Halifax Court Condominiums. He wanted to eliminate one
building in the plans and replace it with a. recreation area. The Board
discussed the plans which included a pool, a recreation building and
shuffle board court. They also discussed the landscaping.
Mr. Mackie made a motion to approve the sketch plan, seconded by Mr. Quaggin.
Motion CARRIED 4-0.
CERTIFICATES OF ZONING:
COZ 85-36
WILLIAM D. ROSSITER - RETAIL SALES - 931 S. RIDGEWOOD B-3
The certificate of zoning 85-36 had been tabled from the October 16, 1985
meeting awaiting advice from the City Attorney. The Board discussed the
COZ extensively. They were concerned about the parking at the plaza and
issuing more than one license for this location would create more parking
problems. It was stated that the owner..of the plaza said the buildings
were not set up to have more than one business in a unit because you don't
have the parking. Mr. Rossiter said the last time he was before the Board
for this COZ it was tabled in order to get a legal opinion from the City
Attorney who was supposedto be at this meeting but since he didn't show
he thought the Board should table it until later. The Board told Mr. Rossiter
he needed two licenses since he has license for a construction office now
but wants to sell satellite dishes he needs a retail sales license also.
Mr. Ed Hall, owner of the building, stated that it was simple that you could
only have one business per unit.
Mr. Mackie stated that the biggest problem with the COZ was the parking.
Mr. Mackie made a motion to deny the COZ 85-36 and if Mr. Rossiter wants
he may take it to City Council and if they want to overturn the Planning
and Zoning Board then it will be up to them. Mr. Loeffler seconded the motion.
Motion CARRIED 4-0.
COZ 85-52
NORMAN ~COX
2102 S. RIDGEWOOD
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RETAIL MERCHANDISE
B-5
The Board reviewed a COZ for Norman J. Cox, who wants to open a retail
merchandise store at the Downtown Edgewater Plaza. It was found that there
is plenty of parking in the area. Mr. Cox told the Board that his sign would
be a l4'X3' self contained illuminated sign and was within the sign ordinance
of the City.
Mr. Quaggin made a motion the Certificate of zoning No. 85-52 be approved.
Motion seconded by Mr. Mackie. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
COZ 85-53
JON RIC HAIR DESIGN 2102 S. RIDGEWOOD BEAUTY SALON
B-5
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John Rando was present to discuss this COZ. The Board reviewed the
and finding ample parking Mr. Loeffler made a motion to t
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motion was seconded by Mr. Mackie. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
COZ 85-54
CHARLES T. SHIELDS 1511 S. Ridgewood Video Tape and Player Rental B 3
Mr. Shields was present to answer questions the Board might have about this
COZ. The Board reviewed the COZ to determine the exact location.
Mr. Loeffler stated that this was located in his building and he would
abstain from voting on this COZ. Mr. Shields informed the Board that
there would be a television for children to watch cartoons while their
parents are shopping. Mr. Shields stated he would be renting video
machines and films to the public. Finding everything in order Mr. Mackie
made a motion to approve the COZ. Motion was seconded by Mr.Quaggin.
Mr. Wheeler informed Mr. Loeffler to file a conflict of voting interest
but he would have to vote. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
COZ 85-55 - JOHN D. CIAFFONI 102 LOUISE DR. RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION B-3
Mr. Ciaffoni informed the Board that this was the Lovell property. The Board
discussed the parking at the building. The Board informed Mr. Ciaffoni
that each business in the building needed their own separate parking. Mr.
Ciaffoni said he had been operating his business out of this home. When
asked about his license Mr. Ciaffoni stated he had State, County and City
licenses. After discussion and finding everything in order, Mr. Loeffler
made a motion to approve the COZ. Mr. Quaggin seconded the motion. Motion
CARRIED 4-0.
City Attorney Alvarez joined the meeting at this time.
OLD BUSINESS:
MEMO FROM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IN REFERENCE TO LUIS GEIL (SP-8529) REQUEST
FOR VARIANCE 612 N. RIDGEWOOD.
A memo from the Board of Adjustments was discussed. The memo requested that
Planning and Zoning consider rezoning a B-5 area off North Ridgewood between
Knapp Avenue and Live Oak Street. The Board of Adjustment stated that these
lots were to small to build on under the current zoning and they could not
grant variances except in the case of a hardship not created by the owner.
The Board and the City Attorney discussed the rezoning at length. Mr.
Alvarez, City Attorney, informed the Board that the rezoning had to be
in keeping with the comprehensive plan of the surrounding area. The
Board found that rezoning this area to B-3 excluding the shopping center
would be keeping with the zoning along Ridgewood which is B-3. The Board
discussed the property owners around the area would have to be informed
and a public hearing would have to be held. The Board decided to let
the City Council have the hearing and inform the property owners. Mr.
Alvarez informed the Board that the easiest way to go would be send a
letter to the Council requesting they rezone the area. Mr. Loeffler
made a motion to send a letter to the City Council requesting they rezone
the B-5 area to B-3 excluding the shopping center. Mr. Mackie seconded the
motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
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SET BACK ENCROACHMENTS FOR ENTIRE R-4 AREAS. SET DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING
Mr. Fischer stated this was incorrect on the agenda that it should be
set back encroachments for the entire City. Mr. Fischer, Building Official
stated that he wanted to add set back encroachments to the zoning, not change
anything. Mr. Fischer and the Board discussed the set back encroachments.
Mr. Fischer told the Board that right now we have no regulations for patio
slabs and their location. The Board also discussed the zoning of Pelican
Cove West at this time. They discussed setting a date for a hearing but
decided they needed more of the Board members present for a decision on these
two subjects. Mr. Fischer informed the Board that if they were going to
zone Pelican Cove West, Phase I and Phase II, they needed to get the
requirements for R-4A and determine what set backs, what regulations,
encroachments and things they will permit in the new zoning. He said we
don't have anything on that right now. Mr. Wheeler stated he thought we
should have a workshop on that. The Board discussed the Pelican Cove West
area and that it had never been zoned since being annexed into the City.
Mr. Loeffler made a motion to table the set back encroachment for the entire
City and the zoning of Pelican Cove West until they get more facts on
it. Mr. Mackie seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
ZONING OF PELICAN COVE WEST SET DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING
(This subject discussed above and tabled)
RIVERSIDE DRIVE - PRESERVATION OF_OPEN SPACES
The Board discussed a memo for the City Clerk. The memo was about the
vegetation line in the River with a drawing of a site plan attached.
They discussed the people building to close to the water line. Mr. Mackie
said there is not enough set back in the rear yard to support the property.
He said the land could not be classified as buildable because it is
submerged. Mr. Wheeler informed the Board that Mr. Bennington was getting
in touch with the Department of Natural Resources. Mr. Alvarez said
this might answer all the Board~ questions. The Board discussed having
bulkheads in this area.
Mr. Fischer stated that they need clarify for him "rear yard" in the
Code Book. He said it reads from the rear property line. Mr. Alvarez
said this is that special district that is along the river. Mr. Alvarez
said this is a clear issue that needs to be resolved. The Board referred
the the Code B'ook and the definition of rear yard.
Mr. Loeffler made a motion to table this subject until after the first
of the year. Mr. Mackie seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Mr. Alvarez, City Attorney, said they had to realize they have a unique
situation along Riverside Drive. He said they needed to establish a
clear guideline they could enforce that what we have now is applicable to
any lot throughout the City. He also said that is not the case here
because the lot goes into the river. He said there will have to be a
change in the ordinance to specify in the same way as for open space R-IA
the distance from the river. Is it going to require a bulkhead or is it
going to require thirty (30) feet of dry land.or is it going to be thirty
(30) feet that reads from the high tide? There has to be a criteria adopted.
Mr. Fischer drew diagrams on the blackboard explaining the problems he is
faced with in issuing the building permits. He said according to the Code
now it reads it must have the frontage and the square area.He said not all
lots are made square. He said a lot is sometimes irregularily shaped. He
stated that some are partially submerged. He said if a home is to be built
on these lots they need ten feet from the side property line, forty feet
from the front property line and they have a thirty feet rear set back. He
said it doesn't say where it has to be the lot line, rear lot line. The definition
of rear yard is the rear line adjacent to both side lines to the rear most
portion of the structure and that requires presently thirty feet in this area.
He said if a man wants to build a house, he can not build into the rear without
dredge and fill permits from Department of Environmental Regulations, so he
wants to build away from it using the area in the back (submerged land)
as his set back. He said the present definition of rear set back says from the
rear of the building to the property line. Mr. Fischer also related if this
were changed where it said the rear set back from the property line to the
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RIVERSIDE DRIVE - PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACES CONTINUED
existing high water table or that the thirty (30) feet be maintanined, he would
have to move the house forward of if he could not do that he would need a
dredge and fill permit. If it could be obtained then he would have the required
land and if denied then a house could not be built upon that area.
The mean high tide was discussed. Mr. Fischer informed the Board that a surveyor
could determine where the high water mark is. He also said that this could
be indicated upon the site plans. Mr. Fischer stated right now they have a legal
survey of a lot, the person owns all that land on the lot and some of it is
submerged or partially submerged. He said they do not own the water but legally
own all the land under the water. It was stated that these people pay taxes
on this submerged land. There was a discussion about holding up any building
permits being issued for this area until the Board maked a decision about
the rear set back. The Attorney was asked if they might declare a moratorium
in this area until this is resolved. Mr. Alvarez replied that he would like
to stay away from a moratorium. Mr. Mackie then asked if the Building Official
could not bring any of the building applications in the R-lA are to the
Planning and Zoning Board for review until this is resolved. The Board
discussed doing something to take the pressure off of the Building Official
as to issuing permits in this R-lA area.
Mr. Alvarez suggested that the Board recommend changing the ordinance
to read thirty (30) feet from the rear of the building to the high water
mark.
A discussion ensued about the Ordinance 880 and what the intentions were of the
people who drafted it and how past Building Officials interpreted it.
Mr. Alvarez stated that common practices with other municipalities was to
measure from the rear of the building to the high water mark.
Mr. Fischer said we could require the thirty (30) feet set back be measured
from the rear of the building to the mean high tide level. He also related
that would be indicated on the survey and within the survey require it to
show the vegetation line and all wetlands.
Mr. Alvarez stated that if the City's practice has been to measure the rear
yard from the high water mark and if someone can testify that was the intent
when the Code was written, then we could establish a policy almost immediately
while a zoning amendment is pending. Otherwise if we try to enforce measuring
the rear yard from the high water mark before the zoning amendments are made
and while the Code Book states from the rear property line we could get a
judgement against us. He said "I think it would be a reasonable
interpretation to measure the rear literally to the high water mark like all
other jurisdictions do. The Building Official agreed with the City Attorney.
Mr. Mackie stated that if the Building Official could not follow the criteria
in the book then he could send the people to the Planning and Zoning Board.
Mr. Alvarez stated that the Board needed to send a recommendation to the
Council and in the meantime the way the Ordinance reads now the Building
Official is mandated by law to follow the ordinance and he is the one who
issues building permits.
The Board decided that if Mr. Fischer has a problem with a building lot
on Riverside Drive he should bring it back in front of the Board with his
recommendations.
After a very lengthy discussion Mr. Mackie made a motion to send a letter
to the City Council asking that they amend the zoning in the R-lA area
to read rear yard thirty (30) feet from the rear of the building to the
high water mark. Mr. Loeffler seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
HOUSE NUMBERING PROJECT AND SIGN ORDINANCE 79-0-25
Mr. Loeffler made a motion to table the house numbering project and the sign
ordinance 79-0-25. Motion seconded by Mr. Mackie. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
There being no further business to come before the Board, Mr. Loeffler
made a motion to adjourn. Motion seconded by Mr. Mackie. Meeting adjourned
at 12:05 P.M..
Minutes respectively submitted
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December 19, 1985
Jan Morris
FORM 4
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interest.
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VOTING CONFLICT DISCLOSURE FOR LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS
[Required by Section 112.3143(3), Florida Statutes (Supp. 1984).]
The Code of Ethics for Public Officers and Employees PROHIBITS each municipal, county. and other local public officer FROM
VOTING in an official capacity upon any measure which inures to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from
knowingly voting in his official capacity upon any measure which inures to the special gain of any principal (other than a government
agency as defined in Section 112.312(2), Florida Statutes) by whom he is retained.
In any such case a local public officer must disclose the conflict:
(a) PRIOR TO THE VOTE BEING TAKEN by publicly stating to the assembly the nature of his interest in the matter on which he is
abstaining from voting; and
(b) WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE VOTE OCCURS by describing the nature of his interest as a public record in this part below.
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capacity upon any measure which inures to his special private gain or the special gain of any principal by whom he is retained is required
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be filed merely to indicate the absence of a voting conflict.
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BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING: IMPEACHMENT, REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT,
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