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CITY OF EDGEWATER
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
July 11, 1985
MINUTES
Chairman Garthwaite called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. ln
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Mr. Garthwaite, Messrs. Newell, Roush and NeF:ll,~~~
Mrs. Martin, Mrs. Murphy, and Mrs. Rufer, secretary. Excused: Mr. Savini.
Also present: Mr. Gross, representing Robert Curran, Mr. Racco,
representing Eastern Shores Association, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. L. Ogram and a
member of the press.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
A motion by Mr. Newell to keep Mr. Garthwaite as Chairman and Mrs. Murphy
seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0.
A motion was made by Mr. Roush to elect Mr. Newell for Co-Chairman and
Mr. Moran seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mrs. Martin moved for approval of the June 13, 1985 minutes. The motion
was seconded by Mr. Roush and CARRIED ~. b-O
OLD BUSINESS
C. Leslie Ogram - Special exception Retail Business ln addition to
existing use at 220 Mango Tree Drive
Chairman Garthwaite stated that this is a I-I district and under the special
exceptions any permitted uses in B-1 through B-6 can be included as a special
exception in the I-I district.
Mr. Newell asked what the purpose of this because it is not zoned right for
this type of business. Mr. Ogram said it is zoned I-I, light industry and
as he read the code book, in order to have a retail business in that zone
you must apply for a variance. Mr. Ogram stated he owned the whole building
and has an electric company in one end and presently in the other end is a
young man that builds steel buildings and is in the process of moving.
Mr. Newell asked what kind of work would be done there. Mr. Ogram answered
there will be no work done on the premises, that he was trying to get into
the marine hardware business and be strictly a retail business with himself
as owner and operator of the business.
Chairman Garthwaite stated we have a letter from the Planning and Zoning
Board and they had reviewed the request, the parking and everything. Mr. Ogram
said copies of the plan showing parking, restrooms, proposed area to be
incorporated into this business and general plot plan were reviewed by each
member of the Planning and Zoning Board. Mr. Ogram said if any of the Board
members wanted to review the plans they were welcome to do so.
Chairman Garthwaite stated that under the I-I Special Exceptions light
industry, the section that is listed as special exception all permitted uses
as set forth in the zoning classification B1 through B6 which should be B2
through B5 because we do not have the other two any more. There would be
retail allowed into that area as a special exception.
Mr. Garthwaite said the 5 questions have to be answered, the same as with a
variance, on page 1642 and 1643.
All the Board Members agreed that all the 5 questions were answered ln the
affirmative.
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Mrs. Martin made a motion to approve the request for special exception
by Mr. Ogram and Mr. Moran seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 6-0.
A-I Truss Co., Inc. - Request for a variance at 1521 Industr~a1 Road
Chairman Garthwaite stated that Mr. Hawkins is too close to the south line
of the property and is requesting a variance to keep the building there
without having to go to the expense of moving it.
Mr. Moran asked if he had received any advice and he replied he had received
advice but it was from the wrong people and that is where the noise question
care up. Mr. Hawkins said he was trying to get as far as I could away from
where we were causing a disturbance and went 8 feet too far.
Mrs. Martin asked Mr. Hawkins if there was a permit issued for this building.
Mr. Hawkins said he was told, and not by those in authority, that the work
could still be done on my original permit when I started the business because
it was less than a year. Mr. Hawkins stated that the electrician got a
permit to put the power in the building and the power company connected the
power on, at that time we found out we were too close to the road.
Mr. Hawkins stated when he went to get a permit, and the building was too
close to the road, they directed him to the Board of Adjustments for a
variance. Mr. Newell said what happened was someone mislead Mr. Hawkins
and he did not have the proper permit to build in the first place.
Chairman Garthwaite stated as far as the construction is concerned on the
building that will be up to the Building Official as to what he wants to do
about it.
Mr. Garthwaite asked Mr. Hawkins if he had been before the Planning and
Zoning Board. Mr. Hawkins said he came before a board and they told him
that he would have to go before this committee first, and when he came back
before the next board to have the water retention plans in which I have
with me at this time.
Chairman Garthwaite asked Mr. Newell if he had any questions. Mr. Newell
said he felt this should involve the Building Inspector and discussed with
the board. Mr. Garthwaite stated that Mr. Hawkins still had to go before the
Planning and Zoning Board to approve the site, water retention, because once
you put something new on ybuhave to go back for the water retention, etc.
Mr. Roush said due to the understanding and according to the letter Mr. Hawkins
were't you willing to move the building once there until the city engineer
advised you not to moveit for the time being. Mr. Hawkins stated that is
is an alternative, we would move it if we could not get the variance. There
was an engineer that came by that is employed b~ ;the city from Deland
(Mr. Ferrara) said Mr. Hawkins, and he didn't see any problem with the
building and this was only his opinion. Mr. Hawkins stated that Mr. Ferrara
told him if the Board requested a letter from him he would be glad to send
one stating in his opinion there is no problem with the building being there.
Mr. Newell said he didn't see any big problem with it being put/'there without
a permit and not being put in the proper place to begin with. Mr. Newell
said the Board is running up against quite a few of these situations.
Mr. HawRins said this came to the building official's attention when they
came out on a noise question is when they saw the building and they had
never checked the building. Mr. Newell asked about the electric inspection.
Mr. Hawkins said the power company came and hooked it on, the man that
handled the installation got the permit and he did not know if he checked
with the building inspector or not. Mr. Hawkins said there is only power
to the building but there are no switches in the box.
Chairman Garthwaite said the things that need to be considered is this 8 foot
request for variance.
Chairman Garthwaite asked if there were any more questions from the members
of the board. Hearing none he then asked if there was anyone in the audience
that would like to speak on this variance request.
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At this time Mr. Racca, representing the Eastern Shores Association
stepped forward.
Chairman Garthwaite asked him his name and addres.. He said Ralph Racca,
S40 Aqua Drive, Edgewater, FL 32032. Mr. Racca stated he is in the
Eastern Shores Mobile Home Village. He said the problem of this building
if the board approves the current location, in actuality we would be better r
off. Mr. Racca said if the board forces Mr. Hawkins to move it it will
contribute to an already troublesome noise problem which is in violation
of the spec as Mr. Hawkins knows now and he is taking certain actions on
hiring a noise expert as he was advised by the board and given a month
to meet the required noise levels. Mr. Racca stated that the building
in question is better left where it is closer to the street and further
from the Mobile Home Park.
Mr. Hawkins stated that he brought all the problems on himself when he
talked to the right people but I have moved machinery out of the building
because we either had to use it and pay for it or let it be returned. If
approved Mr. Hawkins said the building will be used for an office or a
warehouse.
Chairman Garthwaite said the five points must be met on page 1644 to grant
a variance. Mr. Garthwaite read each section and they were all met with
approval except Alice Murphy voted no on section a.
Chairman Garthwaite stated the motion was ready and Mrs~ Martin made the
motion to approve the request for the variance for A-I Trust Company
and Mr. Moran seconded the motionl Motion CARRIED 5-1. Mrs. Murphy
voted no.
NEW BUSINESS
a rear setback variance of a roximatel 22
510 S. Riversi e Drive
Mr. Larry Gross, the authorized agent for Mr. Curran, is requesting to remove
the existing wood frame garage and add to the existing garage (block) which
would extend into 20 foot rear setback line. Chairman Garthwaite said this
is all in one district. Mr. Garthwaite also stated he felt the setback was
more than 20 feet, it was 30 foot.
Mr. Gross said he did not understand something, the garage actually faces
Connecticut, so would that be called the rear setback, when it is actually
a side setback to the garage but a rear setback to the house. Mr. Garthwaite
said what you have to go by is the house which is located on Riverside Drive
then go back that way and the rear setback is at the western side of that
piece of property.
Mr. Garthwaite stated what was being looked at is a 30 foot setback on the
rear of the property, from the rear of property to the first building
should be 30 foot and at present with the wooden structure there, it is
7.5 and what he is requesting to do is to remove the wooden structure and
enclose it as the large solid line structure shows on the drawing.
An in depth discussion followed on these two non-conforming structures.
Chairman Garthwaite stated this is dealing with a non-conformance and
incr~asing a non-conformance. The board had the following 5 steps to
conslder before granting a variance, listed on page 1644 of the Code Book.
(a) Special circumstances exist which are peculiar to the applicant's land
structure or building and do not generally apply to the neighboring ,
lands, structures, or buildings in the same district or vicinity.
The general feeling of the board that the answer to question a) is no.
(b) Strict application of the provisions of this ordinance would deprive
the applicant of reasonable rights commonly applicable to other
properties in the same district.
The general feeling of the board that the answer to question b) is no.
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(c) The special circumstances and conditions do not result from the
actions of the applicant.
The general feeling of the board that the answer to question c) is yes.
(d) That granting of the variance will not cause substantial detriment to
the public welfare or impair the purposes and intent of this ordinance.
The general feeling of the board that the answer to question d) is no.
(e) That granting of the variance will not constitute a grant of special
privilage, that is denied by this ordinance to other lands, structures,
or buildings in the same district.
The general feeling of the board that the answer to question e) IS no.
Chairman Garthwaite asked for a motion. Mrs. Martin made a motion to
decline the request for a variance to increase or change the non-
conformity at 510 S. Riverside Drive and Mr. Roush seconded the motion.
Motion CARRIED 5-1. Mrs. Murphy voted no.
Chairman Garthwaite stated that the request for Mr. Curran has been
denied by the Board of Adjustments.
MISCELLANEOUS
Chairman Garthwaite said he had talked to Jose' Alverez and the board
is to talk with the applicants as little as possible and if they try
to explain what they want to do or why they want to do it or the
troubles they are having, as politely as possible tell them the meeting
is the place to discuss it, and we will ask questions at the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Newell made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Moran seconded the motion.
Motion CARRIED.
Minutes submitted by
Barbara K. Rufer
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