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03-19-1974 J r -. (.)CITY OF EDGEWATER ZONING & PLANNING BOARD o Mar 19, 1974 PRESENT: JOHN BRITTINGHAM WILLIAM GLASER L.E. HARRIS THOMAS LOVELAND also attending: JAMES MACKIE DAVID McCALLISTER WILLIAM NICHOLS RAYMOND SHAMBORA ROBERT WOLFE ABSENT: DAVID WIGGINS JOSEPH WEAVER, SUE BLACKWELL, HAROLD HALL, VERNON STEVER, LILLIAN STRAUB, MRS. MACKIE, PAUL\.:LOEFFLER. READING MINUTES: Motion to accept minutes of Mar 4,1974 regular meeting was made by Dave McCallister and second made by L.E. Harris. Motion approved 9-0. Sec. Shambora stated that minutes from special meeting of Feb. 25, 1974 had not been approved. Motion to accept these minutes was made by John Brittingham, Second made by Mr Harris. Motion approved 9-0. Sec. Shambora stated that minuted of .J.f'eb 11, 1974 Publie Rear- ing did not show record of vote on .L tem #6 (two story homes in B'la'. Shores). City Clerk will amend minutes. Correspondence: Letter from City was read requesting aid in locating available property suitable for public use. Motion was made by Mr. Harris to write letter to City about land of Mrs. Ulenard at east end of Ocean Ave. Motion seconded by Mr Loveland. Motion carried 9-0. Regular Business: Chairman Wolfe stated that two gentlemen wished to bring some comp- laints before the board and were given the floor. Mr. Harold hall stated that a canal between Perdita Ave & Carl Ave. is a hazard and should be filled in. This canal doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose and that it's an eyesore. Six water mocasins have been killed there recently and snakes, mosqulhtoes, are a problem. Also that shopping carts, debris are constantly beeing throvm in ditch. IJr~ Loveland stated that this canal was made by Mosquito Control Dept. and runs from his property north to New Smyrna Beach. Mr. liall & Mr Stever disputed this in that the canal from Mr Lovelands property is dead ended south mf this area and that the canal in question only serves as tidal flow basin and seems to serve no other function. He also complained about a trailer (house) which was left on the north side of Knapp Ave. about two blocks west of u.S.#l. Trailer apparently belongs to a Carl POint~r. The Board agreed that this was a zoning violation. Mr. Hall & Mr. Stever also complained about 10 hunting dogs in a kennel at the last house on the right at the end of Perdita. These dogs are noisy, smelly, and a nuisance. Discussion of these items by the Board resulted in a motion by Mr. Harris that the Board send a letter to the city about these problems. Second was made by Mr. Bri.ttingham. Mr. Shambora stated that recent- ly the City Council had initiated a new complaint form which once filed with the city would bring an answer. He further suggested that these matters should be brought before the City Council. Mr. Hall stated that their complaints to the City in the past had not brought any action up to this time. Vote was then taken and the motion was approved 8-0. Chairman Wolfe stated that the recent car fire-brush fire at the end of W.Knapp Ave might have been prevented if a barracade had been in place. Discussion of this brought out the fact that there was a Dead-End sign at the end of Knapp but you could drive around it. Also that at one time there were bar~~ades at the end of Palmettor Perdita Sts. but that they had fallen ~n didrepair. Chairman 'aolfe asked that this be included in letter. .-. o (page 2 cont "d) o Regular Business: Land Use Map: Chairman Wolfe read exerps from NSB Zoning Ordinance. Board discussed possible changes in Ordinance that could be made to adapt it's use to Edgewater. Residential uses as follows: R-l, 1200 sq., ft.. minimum,possible uses: Riverside Dr. with 22 ft. height; R-2- 950 sq.. ft. minimum, nossible uses as follows: north of Park Ave., west of railroad wlth 25 ft. height; R-3 - 800 sq. ft. min. possible uses: Fla. Shores. Chairman Wolfe suggested that Fla. ' Shores might be better to split up into several zoning classes for better land use. Mr. Shambora recommended that the area east of the railroad to 22nd be zoned R-l with 80 X 115 Ft. minimum lot size and also that the area west of the railroad, two blocks north to two blocks south of Indian River Blvd. and the area of two blocks or one block south of 30th St should be zoned H-l as most of the homes in the area existing already are at or near 1200 sq. ft. in size. Mr. McCallister recommended that the area on either side of indian Hiver ~lvd. be left h-3 as the anticipated future traffic might make this unsuitable for residential use and the ~oard should consider that at some future time this area might be better suited for commercial use. Mr Mackie stated that the board in the past had considered this change and decided that it was better left residential. Mr. Wolfe called for a motion mn this area and Mr Loveland made motiom to designate the area from 17th St. south to 20th ~t from the Commer- cial zone west to the 0ity limits as R-I. Motion was Seconded by Mr Brittingham. Mr Nichols stated that the Hoard should consider leaving the entire area as the lowest class (R-3) as many people that now ovm property might only wish to build a minimum size home. Mr Wolfe said that there will still be a very zarge area left in this class. Area would have to be designated R-lAA as lot size would be smaller than lliverside Dr. lots. Vote was taken and motion carried 6-3. Mr Glaser stated that he felt the residential use of this are~ might not be best suited for residential use. Mr. Mackie, Mr Glaser, & Mr' Nichols voted against. Other areas designated were as follows: R-2 ~ Fla. ~hores from 17th St.. north to west City limits; R-2, from 20th st. to 22nd St from India Palm west to City Limits; R-2, from umbrella Tree west to City Limits and from 29th st. south to Sity Limits; R-2 from 29th St. south to 31st St. and from India ~alm west to umbrella 'l'ree Dr.; R-3, from 22nd south to 29th and from India ~alm west to City Limits; R-3, from 31st south to City Limits and from India Palm west to Umbrella; R-3, from 22nd to 28th east of the railroad; R-4 (Duplex), along lndia Palm from 20th south to City Limits. Other areas: R-4,(Multiple dwellings, 1'mvn..'flOuses, etc.) from rearl St. behind the commercial to Old County Rd and north to property behind Oakridge and from the railroad east to Carl at north end of Ci:ty. R-5, (Single family, duplexes, apartments, & garage apartments) area between Commercial on DSHl and R-l on Riverside Drive; The area of Oakridge,Highland, Wildwood; ~he area of Carl, Palmetto, Perdita, and Knapp Ave. Sue Blackwell recommended that the Board reconsider the area between USffl Commercial & R-l Riverside at the south section of the City as this is primarily Single Family noy and the residents dislike the thought of Multiple dwellings. Mr Harris co~ended t~e Chairman for the job done so far on the Map and made motlon to adJourn. Second to motion made by Mr. Brittingham. Meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M. Respectfully submi~ted,~ ~C?~eR:~~,~ Raymond G. Shambora Secretary ~... o (.) ZONING & PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING HELD MARCH 19, 1974 Mr. Wolfe Chairman of the Zoning & Planning Board called the meeting to order on Tuesday, March 19, 1974. ROLL CALL John Brittingham . William G:1aa&e:y Q{A-S€y( L. E. Harris Tom Loveland David Mc Callister James Mackie William Nicholes Raymond Shambora David Wiggins Robert Wolfe Present Present Present Absent Present Present Present Present Absent Present APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Mc Callister made a motion to accept the minutes of last meeting being seconded by Mr. Harris. All members in favor. Mr. Brittingham~made a motion that the minutes of the meeting held February 25, 1974 be accepted as typed, being seconded by Mr. Harris. All in favor. COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Shambora read a letter from the City Clerk, Sue Blackwell stating that the City Council accepted the Zoning & Planning Boards recommendation from the public hearimg held in February thetrequests of Magnust}~ Corp.. The letter about the Greater Edgewater Municipal Service Dist. was tabled until the next Workshop which will be held March 28, 1974 in the Community Center. At this same Workshop we have asked that the residents of Waterway Park attend,as they have requested fire protection from the City. Your members might also like to attend and see what these residents have to say about this matter. The Council would like to purchase some land for recreation, but at this t~me they do not know of any particular land that is available. If any of your members know of any land that we could purchase at a resonab1e price please contact any member of the City Council. Mr. Mackie stated that when they were looking for property on the highway for land for the Police Department, they did not say what was a reasonable price. It was down as Jow as $18,000 or $19,000 and on up. What size property are they looking for and what price do they want to pay? Mr. Harris made a motion to write a letter to the City Council requesting them to look into Mr.s. Menard1s property on the water- front to purchase it or lease it for recreation land, being seconded by Mr. Loveland. All members in favor. Mr. Wolfe stated that he has two gentlemen here tonight that live in the area of Pointer1s Subdivision which is Carl, Perdita and Palmetto. They have three greviences that they would like to bring before the board which are City violations of the zoning. -1- ~ o o These two men stated that they would like to fill th~anal between Palme;to and Perdita. There is useless water laying there, there are snakes, shopping carts,old cars, logs, and etc are thrown in that canal it is useless to anybody. They stated that they would like to have that canal closed up, filled up. Mr. Harris said that the committee should be permitted to look this situation over to decide whether it should be filled or not. The Chairman stated that the Zoning & Planning Board will check this out and make recommendations to the City. This man also stated that there is a trailer down there that Carl Pointer left, they would like that trailer moved. Mr. Weaver stated that instead of refering to the Zoning & Planning Board, you can fill out a complaint form and report l.t directly to the City Hall and they'll act on it and give you a telephone call and tell you what they are going to do. This man also stated that there are dogs on Perdita Street, they are hunting dogs. They break loose at 4:00 in the morning and it is very noisey in the neighborhood. Mr. Weaver stated that he could fill out one of the complaint forms and being this matter before the Council. The Zoning & Planning Board should make a notation of these three complaints because the Council might refer this back to the Zoning & Planning Board. That this gentleman has been before this board and we are recommending the Council to do something about this. Mr. Harris made a motion that the Zoning & Planning Board write the City a letter pertaining to these complaints, being seconded by Mr. Brittingham. All in favor. Mr. Wolfe stated that is this same letter also recommend to the Council to put a b~rricade at the end of Knapp Ave, Perdita St, and Palmetto St. GENERAL BUSINESS ~ Mr. Wolfe stated that the Vice Chairman ~ ordered flowers for Mr. Dimm. Each member own him $1.56. Mr. Wolfe stated that he has the New Smyrna Beach Zoning Laws, and and we are going to adopt them to Edgewaters laws. We will print it up, it will sell for $5.00 to each contractor or each lawyer or each realestate person. . '. City Attorney Weaver stated that the City has impowered him to revise the Code of Ordinances, but also the Charter, bring every- thing up to date. We will have a section in our Code of Ordinances dealing with Zoning, and this will be one of the major portions of it. Mr. Wolfe read some of the zoning laws. He stated that it will tell us what their ieea is, and maybe we will want to change it. He stated that he has read this over and some of it he agrees with and some of he do&sn't. The word definitions, City Attorney Weaver can go through and tell us anything that we would want to chang e in there. -~~ ~ o o Mr. Loveland made a motion to zone from 17th Street south to 20th Street,west of the City limits R#lieiR@ leEIRiei i~ from the railroad tracks back, being seconded by Mr. Brittingham. Much discussion afterwards. Six (6) for the mmtion and three(3) against. ThereN was a lot of talk about recreational areas. City Attorney Weaver stated that what we need is lone large area I centrally located that will basicly house any type of recreation area you would want to put on it. Mr. Wolfe read the Zoning Laws and discussed each zone in full. Their decisions and reccomendation on these zones will be brought up at a Publice Hearing. Mr. Wolfe stated that if a pefson comes in and wants to subdivide an area we BOW can tell him how big his lots are going to be, how big his homes are going to be. Mr. Harris made a motion to adjourn this meeting being seconded by Mr. Loveland. All members in favor. -3- ...--