08-22-1991 Special
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CITY OF EDGEWATER
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
SPECIAL MEETING
THURSDAY, AUGUST 22, 1991
6:30 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER, CITY HALL
Vice Chairman, Dominick Fazzone called to order a special meeting
of the Land Development and Regulatory Agency at 6:30 p.m.,
Thursday, August 22, 1991, in the Community Center of City Hall.
ROLL CALL:
Members present were Mr. Masso, Mr. Ewing, Mr. Fazzone and Mr.
Garthwaite. Chairman Hellsten and Mr. Hildenbrand were excused.
Mr. Klein was absent. Also present were Mark P. Karet, Director.
of Planning and Zoning, Gigi Bennington, Maureen Borner and Doris
Hill, members of the Ad-Hoc Sign Committee.
CONTINUED BUSINESS:
Mr. Fazzone gave a brief synopsis of the last meeting, explaining
the business owners showed dissatisfaction with various
ordinances, especially the pole signs.
Mr. Fazzone then opened the meeting to the public.
Doris Massey, Edqewater:
to three (3) square feet
Ms. Massey said she felt limiting signs
is rather excessive to get permitted.
Ms. Hill suggested real estate signs should be the same
New Smyrna Beach, explaining that realtors work in
Smyrna Beach and Edgewater and their signs can be used
city.
size as
both New
in either
Nancy Swiney Owner State Farm Ins., Edqewater: Ms. Swiney
asked for an example of low, medium and high intensity
commercial. Ms. Swiney asked if the categories would apply to
specific businesses. Mr. Karet commented that they would apply
to areas. Mr. Karet said that trip generation is used in
determining intensity. He also pointed out that this portion of
the sign ordinance is not consistent with the comprehensive plan
and the remainder of the land development regulations, because
high intensity commercial is not included in these two documents.
Ms. Swiney further expressed her dissatisfaction with the
possibility of changing her sign, stating that before erecting it
she had done everything to be in direct compliance with the code.
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Bill Perry - Owner Neptune Lounqe: Mr. Perry asked what changes
have been made to the sign ordinance draft. He said he and Ron
Carwile had several changes they would like to see made. Ms. Hill
said no definitive input has come from any of the business
owners at the many meetings held so far. This meeting is an
attempt to get the business community's comments.
Numerous suggestions and discussion followed
owners. The main concerns are as follows:
from
the business
Donnie Williams - Owner Help-U Sell: Mr. Williams objection was
the expense that the new ordinance would add to business owners
during this time of recession. Mr. Williams also asked how the
city would handle the yearly renewing of sign permits. Mr. Karet
answered that the amortization in the ordinance required yearly
tracking. He indicated that would probably be done through the
occupational licenses.
Mr. Perry said that low signs pose a safety problem.
indicated that sign advertising can affect business by
stated that existing business should be exempt from the
ordinance.
He also
30%. He
new sign
Mr. Williams asked if all pole sings are going to be prohibited.
Mr. Karet replied that pole signs are permitted by the ordinance,
but would have to go through LDRA approval. Several members of
the audience voiced their opinion that LDRA approval should not
be required.
Both Ms. Bennington and Ms. Hill agreed with the audience that if
existing signs are in good repair and meet the standards that
were in place when they were constructed then they should not be
required to change now. They also agreed that nonconforming
signs should not have to come into compliance if the business
changes hands.
Ron Carwile Owner Costal Tire:
regarding sight triangles, yearly
and a number of other issues.
Mr. Carwile voiced concerns
permit renewals, amortization
Considerable
Edgewater and
discussion followed
amortization.
regarding
beautification
of
Mr. Steve Dennis - Chamber of Commerce: Mr. Dennis stated these
recommended changes should be considered and asked when would
action be taken. He also said the Chamber would be glad to help
out in the same manner as they did for this meeting.
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Mr. Fazzone called a recess at 8:40 p.m.
Mr. Fazzone resumed the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
Mr. Fazzone said after hearing the various business owners ideas
he feels the sign ordinance can be changed to reflect these
desires. Mr. Garthwaite agreed, then moved to add the following
changes to the proposed sign ordinance: pole signs should be left
as is and new development signs should meet the new standards, if
pole signs are damaged the base can be changed to meet Planning
and Zoning approval, no permit should be required for real estate
signs up to 5 1/2 square feet, nonconforming signs should be
allowed to remain, do away with yearly permit, churches - lights
do not have to be turned off at 9:00 p.m. Seconded by Mr. Ewing.
Motion CARRIED 4-0.
Mr. Fazzone
and said it
thanked everyone
was appreciated.
for their
participation and
input
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the Agency a
motion was made and seconded to adjourn. The meeting adjourned
at 9:15 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by:
Sondra Meager-Pengov, Secretary
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Special Meeting
August 22, 1991
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