08-15-1991
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CITY OF EDGEWATER
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, AUGUST 15, 1991
6:30 P.M.
EDGEWATER LIBRARY
Chairm~n c. Peter Hellsten
the L~nd Development ~nd
Thursday, August 15, 1991,
called to order a regular meeting of
Regul~tory Agency at 6:30 p.m.,
in the Edgewater Library.
ROLL CALL:
Memhers present were Mr. Masso, Mr. Ewing, Mr. Fazzone, Mr.
Garthwaite, Mr. Hildenhrand and Chairman Hellsten. Mr. Klein was
excused. Also present were Mark P. Karet, Director of Planning
and Zoning and Sondra Meager-Pengov, Secretary.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of July 18, 1991 were presented for approval. Mr.
Fazzone marle a motion to approve the minutes of July 18, 1991 as
presented. Seconded by Mr. Garthwaite. Motion CARRIED 6-0.
CONT I NUED Bt JS 1 NESS.!..
SP-9104 - Pelican Cove West - Cluh House - J.C. Carder, Belmont
Homes, Inc., authorized agent for Pelic~n Cove West Club House
requested site plan approv~l (t~bled from July 18, 1991 meeting).
Mr. K~ret gave a brief synopsis of the July 18, 1991 meeting,
stating the club house h~d been t~bled due to the agency's
concerns regarding seven addition~l parking spaces. Mr. Karet
said Mr. C~rder has been able to come up with a total of twenty-
two (22) parking spaces. Mr. Karet stated all staff requirements
have been satisfied and staff recommends approval of the site
plan.
Chairman Hellsten noted that Gates Castle, City Engineer, stated
in his comments that a unity of title is to be provided and
recorded. A certificate of zoning will not be issued until the
unity of title is provided. Landscape requirements were
discussed. It was pointed out that an additional ten (10) foot
planting strip has been included on the latest version of the
plans because of the added parking that was provided.
Robert Lusetti. 411 Se~qul Court: Mr. Lusetti
record a petition, dated August 14,
approximately one hundred (100) residents
requesting the LDRA approve the proposed
presented for the
1991, signed by
of Pelican Cove West
site plan for a club
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house and pool fa~ility. He said
comprise a majority of the residents in
believe approval of the site plan is
best interest.
the
the
in
petition signatures
subdivision and they
theirs and the City's
Ilene lloyd, Resident: Mrs. Lloyd requested a buffer be put
behind the club house. Mr. Karet said the shrubs planted against
the fence along the rear of the club house would grow and absorb
sound. Ms. Lloyd stated she still feels the parking isn't
adequate. Ms. Lloyd also discussed the lawsuit she and some of
the other residents have against Mr. Carder. After considerable
discussion and comments from a number of the residents Chairman
Hellsten said in his opinion the dispute is between the applicant
and the residents, not the City.
Mr. Masso stated the Board agreed at the last meeting that the
parkina needed to be in~reased. Mr. Fa7zone asked Mr. Carder
about his offer to use the property north of the ~lub house for
overflow parking. Mr. Carder said for the re~ord, he was
willing to restate his offer. Mr. Katz, attorney for Mr. Carder
asked the Board not to make their decision based on the extra lot
being turned over to the homeowners association.
Mr. Fazzone made a motion to a~~ept the site plan,
Mr. Masso. Motion CARRIFD 6-0.
seconded by
Mr. Garthwaite moved to amend the motion
of trees behind the club house to provide
bushes that will grow to seven (7)
maturity. Motion CARRIFD 6-0.
to include the planting
a buffer, or to ac~ept
or eight (8) feet at
Chairman Hellsten called for a recess at 7:30 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 7:40 p.m.
NFW BlJSINFSS:
SP-9l0~ - Rella Vista Rn[1tist Chur~h - Sid Corhern,the authorized
agent for Bella Vista Church requests site plan approval for an
addition to the existing chur~h. Mr. Karet said staff has found
the site plan in complian~e with codes and recommends approval.
Mr. Karet also stated Council has a~cepted LDRA's recommendation
for the church annexation.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to
annexation into the City.
CARRIFD 6-0.
a~cept
Seconded
the site plan, contingent on
by Mr. Hildenbrand. Motion
SP-9l06 Fdqewater Commons (Puhlix): Mr. Karet said Mike
Conner of Parndise Development Group is the nuthorized agent for
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R.J.B.H. Corporation and requests final site plan approval. Mr.
Karet gave a summary of the proposed shopping center and its
location. Mr. Karet said there is a dispute as to who owns and
who should maintain Roberts Road, the City or the State. Mr.
Karet said as the current situation exists, the site plan meets
the City's code and staff recommends approval.
Mr. Masso asked ahout traffic problems that may be created on
Roberts Road and U.S. #1. Considerable discussion followed
regarding turn lanes. Mr. Karet stated the Department of
Transportation limits median cuts on major arterial and prefers
that driveways and other entrances he off secondary roads to
limit conflicting turning movements on roads such as U.S. #1.
Mr. Conner said the City
regarding a left turn lane on
provided the dispute with the
~ngineer has developed
Roherts Road that they
county is not resolved.
a design
will adopt,
Chairman Hellsten said he sees a great many trees being removerl
from the site. He would like to spe the developers meet with the
City to see if some of the oak, hardwood and the four to six foot
treps could be saved.
Mr. Garthwaite indicatec1 when backing out of some parking spaces
you back into a driving lane. ~ven though the requirements o.f
the code have heen met he would like to see these parking spaces
eJiminatec1. There was discussion of Pulhix's parking
requirements and specifications.
There was ac1rlitional discussion regarding the possibility of
speed bumps, stop signs and sidewalks on the main roac1.
Mr. Fazzone made a motion to accept the site plan as presented
trying to save additional trees and address the parking, seconded
by Mr. Garthwaite. Motion CARRIFO 6-0.
ZA-0?9l Ac1u I t r:on[JreC]a te
all thor i zed alJent, rellues ted
i vi n[J Far i ] i t y (AD F)
a zoning text amendment.
- Lu is Ge i ] ,
Chairman Hellsten asked Mr. Karet's opinion about allowing an
ACLF in the commun i ty. Mr. Kan=?t exp 1 a i nerl an ACLF is a place
that provides limited health care for those who don't require a
full scale nursinlJ home. ACLF's range in size from small
predominantly resirlential to larger institutional type facilities
similar to a large nursing home or a hospital. The Planning and
7.oning Department finds that this is beneficial and needed in
~dgewater and recommends ACLF's be allowed in all commercial and
residential zones of the City as a special exception. The
special exception allows the r:ity to place conditions upon the
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approval. Mr. Karet stated that an ACLF should be required to
conform with the surrounding area. This applies to design,
density, lot size, landscaping or other factors affecting the
neighhorhood character. Approval of ACLF's should only be
granted to fac-ility operators and shall not "run with the land".
Mr. Fazzone moved to ac-cept the Planning and Zoning Department
rec-ommendation regarding the ACLF zoning text amendment to
include all residential and commercial areas, seconded by Mr.
Masso. Motion CARRIFD 5-1. Mr. Hildenbrand voted no.
SF-910?- Adult r.onqreClate l ivinCl Fac-ility (A.r..1 .F>. West Marion
Avenue. Luis C. Geil, authorized agent for Frank Hall reL]uested
a special exception to construct an A.C.L.F.
Mr. Garthwaite sUCJIJesten waiting until the zoning text amendment
goes to the Council for consineration, then the LORA could make
their dec-ision arcordinCJly. Chairman Hellsten sugIJested tahling
until COllnril 's opinion is receivpn. Mr. GarthltJaitp stated there
appears to be no sprious ohjection to thp sperial exception at
this time.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to
A.C.L.F., seronnen hy Mr.
tahle
Fa77.0ne.
the special exception
Motion CARRJFO 6-0.
for an
Chairman Hellstpn callpd a recess at 9:05 p.m.
Chairman Hpllsten reconvened
p.m.
the meeting at approximately 9:15
R?-9JO? Oowntown
CArder, authorizeri
re~uesteri re-7.oninQ
Mr. Karet to review
Fdqewater Pla7a James C. and Rosemary
aQent for Downtown EriQewater Plaza is
from 8-~ to 8-3. Chairman Hellsten asked
the request.
Mr. Karet stateri that both the B-3 anri 8-~ districts have a
number of uses in common, most significant among these uses are
hiQh traffic Qenerators, such as retail businesses and
restaurants. Both locations have strip commercial centers in
both classifiCAtions. Mr. Karet also noteri an irientical re7.oninQ
reques twas approveri by the I_ORA a t the March meet i nlJ . A I so,
this request has been fJenerateri because of the long list of
permitted uses in the 8-3 riistrict that provides a Qreater pool
of potential tenants than is availAble to properties desifJnAteri
R-~. Mr. KAret sairi the Planning Anri 7.oning Department supports
the Applicants' request.
Mr. Faz7.one
Garthwaite.
moved to accept
Motion CARRJFO 6-0.
the
re-zoning,
serondpd by Mr.
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R7-910~ Date Palm and Indian
Addison, authorized agent for T &
zoning from R-28 to B-2 or 8-3.
Karet for a review of the request.
River Roulevard - Raymond D.
T 8ui lders is reqllesting re-
Chairman Hellsten asked Mr.
Mr. Karet briefly discussed Mr. Addison's request. He stated that
the Future Land Use map has designated the subject property as
low density residential. The requested zone change to either the
B-2 or B-3 is not consistRnt with the Future Land Use Map. The
position of the Planning and 20ning Department is the B-2 and/or
8-3 would not be consistent with the Future Lrind Use Mrip rind is
inconsistent with the surrounding uses. BasRd on this the striff
is recommending dRnial of the applicants request. However, staff
does recommend the I_DRA cons i r1er rin over I riy with i n the new Land
Development RRgulritions. The underlying lrind use would stay the
same, however, thR applicant would be able to request the
plricement of an overlay on their property. The overlay would
allow rin office type use. The external impacts would be
consistent with the residential houses surrounding it, except
possibly siCJnrilJe. Parking would bR essentially the samR as the
residential homes surrounding it.
After discussion Mr. Grirthwaite made a motion to deny the reqllRst
for the rR-zoning, seconded by Mr. Fazzone. Motion CARRI~D 5-1.
Mr. Ewing voted no.
Mr. Masso moved to
possihle overlay that
seconded by Mr. Fazzone.
have staff propose a recommendation for a
would allow for limited office use,
Motion CARRI~D 6-0.
R7-9104 - Florence Anderson. 1904 So. Riverside Driv~ - Raymond
L. Anderson and Attorney Willirim F. Hathriway, alJthorized aCJents
for Florence Anrlerson, request re-zoning from R-1 to R-5.
Chairmrin HRIIsten asked Mr.
re-zoning request.
Karet to give the highlights of the
Mr. Karet said the staff originally recommended denial of the
original request in the fall of 1989. Staff now recommends
aprroval due to some changes. The changes are the comprehensive
plan language that was used when first denied has now been
changed. DCA felt the original language that said develorment in
this area will be limited was extremely vague. Language was then
develored that said the densities for new develorment will be
limited to those which are identified on the future land use mar.
The future land use map for this area is low density residential,
one to five units per acre. This re~uest is for a zone that is
identified in the comrrehensive plan as sllitahle for buffers
between two differing intensities of use. He also said the
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surrounding area has become more developed with the approval of
the condominium, making this area more of a transitional area
than before. Mr. Karet said based on this information staff
recommends approval.
Mr. Masso asked, if the board accepts the change, does that limit
the number of units to five as a maximum? Mr. Karet said this is
correct.
There was discussion with the
wanted to subdivide property.
the board is to re-zone, which
existing lot size.
board regarding past cases that
Mr. Karet said the action before
allows for five units on the
Chairman Hellsten opened the discussion for public comments.
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road - Ms. Hill's concern is the fact
that her resid~nce abuts the Anderson property and is a single
family residence. She offered an alternative for the Anderson's
property, if the property were changed to R-5, the Anderson's
could sell their riverfront home, then sell the remaining parcels
from the west side of Riverside Drive to U.S. #1. The B-3 zoning
of the U.S. #1 parcel would p~rmit a large number of uses, which
could be incorporated with the remainder of the property,
enabling a potential developer to construct a large condo or
similar d~velopment.
She pleaded with the board to try and find a way to enable the
Anderson's to use the land under its present single family
zoning, even if it means a variance. She feels if the zoning is
changed she and the adjoining property owners would be faced with
the same situation as the Riverside Drive condo property
inflected on them.
Mr. Lawrence lanchony, 110 Lincoln Road - Mr. Lanchony expressed
concern that a dangerous precedent is being set for others to
come before the board for re-zoning.
Attorney William Hathaway, 500 Canal Street - Mr. Hathaway,
authorized agent for Mr. Anderson explained why a re-zoning was
applied for. He said the R-5 zoning is low density, multi-family
residential district, for small and large lanrl parcels. The
property is useful as a buffer between single family homes (that
are to the north of the Anderson property) and business districts
(that is to the west and south of the Anderson property). He
feels the R-5 definition is best suited for the Anderson
property.
Mr. Karet addressed the possibility of sub-dividing the property,
saying this property could not legally be sub-divided within the
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existing zone. He noted that
require subdivision aflproval.
a multi-family project would not
Dorothy Mont~omery. 1901 S. Riverside Drive
asked if a road would be put in.
Ms. Montgomery
Mr. Hathaway responded there has been no plan developed as yet,
but there will be some kind of egress and ingress to back units.
He also expressed no desire to sub-divide the lot.
Ms. Hill Asked if it would be possible for a special exception to
be granted or some other alternatives that would allow single-
family homes, but not multi-fAmily dwellings.
Mr. Karet replied,
with Mr. Anderson
units. This would
LDRA and one before
a development agreement could be entered into
which would specify the type of dwelling
require two public heArings, one before the
the City Council.
Chairman Hellsten stated this is a difficult piece of property to
be productive. He feels a development agreement may be the best
solution. Possibly an agreement could be created that is not an
abrupt change as goina to a R-5.
Mr. Fazzone said he thinks they should deny
application from R-l to R-5 And go along with the
a development agreement.
the ,-e-zon i nl)
suggestion of
Mr. Fazzone moved to deny the requf?st, spcondE'd by Mr. Ewing.
Considerahle discussion followed. Chairman Hellsten said he
thinks thE' LDRA wants to maintain the residential chara~ter on
Riverside Drive, without condominiums, multi-story and so forth.
He thinks a comflromise position for a development agreement can
bE' rearhed, thus giving thE' AndE'rson's rE'asonablE' USE' of their
property without imparting thE' surrounding neighborhood.
Mr. Ewing withdrew his second to the motion made by Mr. Fazzone
and Mr. Fazzone withdrew the motion.
Mr. Fazzone moved to table
possibility of a developmE'nt
Motion CARRIFD 6-0.
and direct staff to explore the
agreement, seconded by Mr. Ewing.
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DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Planninq and Zoninq Director's Reports - Mr. Karet said Sea Pines
Memorial Gardens has had a series of mishaps regarding the
proposed construction of a mausoleum. The developers have
requested a special meeting of the LDRA as soon as possible to
expedite the project. The board agreed to a special meeting on
August 19, 1991 at 6:30 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to come
motion was made and seconded to adjourn.
at 11:05 p.m.
before the agency a
The meeting adjourned
Minutes Respectfully Submitted by:
Sondra Meager-Pengov, Secretary
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
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Idramin/091591