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CITY OF EDGEWATER
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
6:30 P.M.
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 1990
EDGEWATER PUBLIC LIBRARY
Vice-Chairman Dominick Fazzone called to order a regular meeting
of the Land Development and Regulatory Agency at 6:32 p.m.,
Tuesday, November 20, 1990, at the Edgewater Public Library. The
meeting was recessed at 6:33 p.m., pending the arrival of C.
Peter Hellsten, Chairman, and Jose' Alvarez, City Attorney.
The meeting was reconvened at 6:39 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Members present were Mr. Masso, Mrs. Blazi, Mr.
Fazzone, Mr. Garthwaite, Mr. Hellsten, Mr. Klein and Mr.
Hildenbrand. Also present were Mark P. Karet, Planning and
Zoning Director, Jose' B. Alvarez, City Attorney, and Beverly
Kinney, Secretary. It was noted that Mayor Elect Tanya Wessler
was in the audience.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
September 26, 1990: Mrs. Blazi moved to approve, seconded by Mr.
Garthwaite. Motion Carried 6-1, with Mr. Klein voting no.
October 11,
Mrs. Blazi.
1990: Mr. Fazzone moved to approve, seconded by
Motion Carried 6-1, with Mr. Klein voting no.
October 24, 1990: Mr. Garthwaite moved to approve, seconded by
Mr. Fazzone. Motion Carried 6-1, with Mr. Klein voting no.
CONTINUED BUSINESS:
DA-0190 Developer Aqreement Windview Condominium: Attorney
Glenn Storch, authorized agent, was present. Mr. Hellsten stated
that this not a public hearing, and that a public hearing will
take place at a later date, and interested parties will be
permitted to speak at that time.
Mr. Karet stated that issues carried over from the November 8th
meeting include the alternative permitted uses for the property,
the ultimate height of a structure in the B-4 zoning district,
and amendments to the Developer Agreement. Mr. Karet referred
the members to his memo dated November 15th regarding alternative
development in the 8-4 district. Mr. Karet pointed out that
there are no standards for story height in the zoning ordinance
or technical codes, however, a rough guideline is generally eight
feet (8') for residential structures and twelve feet (12') for
commercial structures. He added that these figures are simply
guidelines and that actual story heights tend to vary with
individual designs.
Mr. Storch stated that at the Agency's request the word
"substantial" had been removed so that no deviations from the
approved plan and development agreement would be permitted
without revisiting the entire approval of the development
agreement and the site plan process.
There was discussion regarding the required number of parking
spaces. Mr. Storch stated that the architect for the project was
currently working on this issue.
Mr. Karet stated that the members need to
compatibility of the surrounding neighborhood as
the proposed condominium development.
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Mrs. Blazi stated that if a hotel is built on the sight, it will
be of a higher intensity than a condominium. She added that
there may also be a restaurant and a bar which would increase
traffic to the area. Mr. Karet pointed out that if a hotel is
constructed the number of rooms will increase, because the
required square footage per unit is less than for the proposed
condominium. The members discussed the pro's and con's of a
hotel versus a condominium, and agreed that a hotel would be less
desirable in that location.
The members discussed the proposed height of the structure. Mr.
Storch stated the roof may be brought down and it is high,
because it is a decorative roof line. He added that the parking
placed at ground level (under the first floor of dwelling units)
hides some of the vehicles which makes a more attractive site.
Mr. Karet stated that if the height of the structure is lowered,
some units may be lost and the required number of parking spaces
will be less. Mr. Storch agreed to look at the height, density
and parking for the proposed project.
Mr. Hellsten asked if the other lots in the B-4 district could be
developed in the same way. Mr. Alvarez stated that if the
conditions are similar the answer is yes, and it will be up to
the city to develop the proper criteria on a case by case basis
that will be in their best interest. Mr. Alvarez added that if
the circumstances are the same the city can not arbitrarily deny
some developments and allow others.
The members agreed to continue discussing height, density, and
parking at the next s~heduled meeting.
SP9005 Restaurant U.S. 1 and Shanqri-La Drive: Mr. Karet gave
a history of this site plan from the date of submittal to the
present, which included the submittal of a traffic impact
analysis on October 26th, and review by the City Council on
November 2nd. The Council referred the site plan back to the
Agency for further review and a recommendation.
Mr. Karet referred to the memo from Gates Castle, City Engineer,
dated November 20th, regarding the traffic impact analysis. The
memo states that according to the analysis there is sufficient
capacity to accommodate the traffic volumes that will be
generated by the propsed restaurant without significantly
impacting U.S. 1 and Shangri-La Drive. Mr. Castle also stated
that the analysis does not address the accident history at the
intersection of U. S. 1 and Shangri-La Drive, or the number of
existing and projected gaps in the traffic on U.S. 1 sufficient
to allow left turn movements from Shangri-La Drive.
Mr. Karet stated that staff recommends approval of the site plan
with one (1) cut on U.S. 1. and that consideration of the cut on
Shangri-La Drive be postponed until the applicant provided the
additional information requested by the City Engineer.
Mr. Fazzone and City Attorney Alvarez discussed the current law
suit regarding Marwin, Inc. and the city. Mr. Alvarez stated if
Mr. Fazzone did not stand to gain anything monetarily, and he was
not tainted by any preconceived ideas regarding this project
there should be no problem. Mr. Fazzone stated for the record
that he was tired of attornys attempting to intimidate the
members.
Mr. Klein asked about the ownership of Shangri-La Drive. Mr.
Hellsten pointed out that at their meeting of August 29th, the
three (3) attorneys present at the meeting agreed that Shangri-La
Drive is a public thoroughfare.
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Mr. Garthwaite moved to grant 1 cut for egress/ingress on U.S. 1
with extension of the deceleration lane to the north. The cut
onto Shangri-La Drive is to be held until the questions (11-20-90
memo) of the City Engineer regarding the traffic impact analysis
have been answered. Mrs. Blazi seconded.
Mr. Hellsten opened the floor for comments from the audience.
Bob Messenqer talked about Shangri-La Drive.
Sid Peterson, Attorney for homeowners of Shanqri-La Subdivision
stated that there was also vacant property to the south which
should be considered in making their decision. He added that the
peak traffic times will be during the winter months, and the
traffic impact analysis does not reflect this. He stated he was
entering his objections to the whole procedure, because he
believes the matter was brought to the Agency inappropriately
and the decision had been made on August 29th when the Agency
denied the site plan, and on September 17th when the Council
denied the appeal made by the developer.
Frank Row
development
light.
stated U.S. 1 is getting more traffic and any new
should be bound to putting monies towards a traffic
Frank Ferquson, president of Shanqri-La Homeowners Association
stated that he did not think enough pressure had been placed on
the Department of Transportation to lower the speed limit from 50
miles per hour to 40.
Motion Carried 6-1. Mr. Klein voted no, stating that he believed
that the agency had already decided this Issue.
Mr. Hellsten called a recess at 7:58 p.m..
at 8:11 p.m..
The meeting resumed
Land Development Requlations: Mr. Karet reminded the members
that they had tabled review of Chapter 22, Dimension and Density
Standards at their last meeting. Mr. Karet stated that he had
received a draft of the complete document the day before. He
added that the members had not received a copy, because it is 250
pages long and there had not been enough time to have it copied
for the members to review. Mr. Karet stated the draft had been
generated to meet the Department of Community Affair's submittal
deadline at the end of this month. Mr. Karet stated that public
hearings will be held at the Council level after the Agency
forwards their recommendation to them. Mrs. Blazi moved to table
any further discussions of the land development regulations until
the document submitted to DCA had been made available to the
members. Mr. Fazzone seconded. Motion Carried 7-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
1991 Meetinq Schedule: Mr. Karet stated that at the present
time the Agency is meeting twice a month. The first meeting of
the month is for applications submitted for Agency review, and
the second meeting of the month has been for the Land Development
Regulations. Mr. Karet stated that the Planning and Zoning
Department is preparing the 1991 schedule and a decision needs to
be made regarding the number of meetings the Agency will have per
month.
After some discussion,
meetings in the month of
regulations, and then go
the members agreed to hold two (2)
January to finish the land development
to one (1) meeting a month, the second
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Thursday of each month. They also agreed that if necessary the
members will meet more than once a month.
Ad-Hoc Siqn Committee: Mr. Karet noted that C. Peter Hellsten,
Chairman of the LDRA, Maureen Borner, Chairman of the Citizen
Code Enforcement Board, Jose' B. Alvarez, City Attorney, and
himself would be on the committee along with whoever the Agency
members appointed tonight. Mr. Karet reminded the members that
at a previous meeting they had agreed on representatives from the
real estate/development field, the retail business field, an a
private citizen.
The members discussed the four (4) letters submitted to the city
by people interested in serving on the Ad Hoc Committee. The
applicants were Gigi Bennington (private citizen), Perry Barrett
(developer) Doris Hill (real estate), and William Cichewicz
(retail business owner).
The members agreed that they needed to form a committee that can
work together harmoniously and productively. Mr. Karet stated
that staff has no recommendation. Mrs. Blazi stated that people
from the real estate field were the main people interested in
what was going on when the original sign ordinance was discussed
and adopted.
After some discussion, Mr. Klein moved to appoint Doris Hill,
Gigi Bennington and William Cichewicz to the committee. Mr.
Masso seconded. Motion Carried 6-1 with Mrs. Blazi voting no.
Mr. Fazzone pointed out that
together. Mr. Klein moved
reinstate enforcement of the
seconded the motion. Motion
everyone needed to start working
to send a request to the Council to
current sign ordinance. Mrs. Blazi
Carried 7-0.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Planninq and Zoninq Director's Reports: Mr.
all items pending review by the Agency.
Karet
went
through
Mr. Klein stated that work had already begun at 1001 S. Ridgewood
Avenue (SP-90091. Mr. Karet stated that the work being done was
not changing the footprint of the building. All that is
currently being done is the removal of overhead doors for
replacement of windows. He pointed out that a renovation permit
has been pulled by the applicant.
Chairman's Reports: None.
Aqency Member Reports: Mr. Garthwaite noted that there was .a
lack of parking at the library. He added that at one time (1988)
there was discussion of increasing the parking by vacating
Alamanda Drive and using the land for parking for the library and
the real estate office located next door. Mr. Karet stated he
was not familiar with this item, but he would research it and
make a recommendation to Council.
There being no further business to
Klein moved to adjourn, seconded by
adjourned at approximately 8:42 p.m..
come before the Agency, Mr.
Mrs. Blazi. The meeting
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Regular Meeting
Tuesday, November 20, 1990
Minutes respectfully submitted by:
Beverly Kinney, Secretary
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