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CITY OF EDGEWATER
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 1990
6:30 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
Chairman C. Peter Hellsten
the Land Development and
Thursday, September 13, 1990,
called to order a regular meeting of
Regulatory Agency at 6:34 p.m.,
in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL: Members present were Mrs. Blazi, Mr. Fazzone, Mr.
Garthwaite, Mr. Hellsten, and Mr. Hildenbrand. Mr. Klein was
excused. Mr. Bennington tendered his resignation on September
4th. Also present were Mark P. Karet, Planning and Zoning
Director, and Beverly Kinney, Secretary.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Mr. Garthwaite moved to approve the minutes
of July 12, 1990. Mr. Fazzone noted that the correct name of the
attorney representing Winston Tomlinson is Alan Watts. (The
motion was not seconded.)
Mrs. Blazi moved to approve the minutes of July 25, 1990. Mr.
Fazzone noted the correction of Mr. Frank Ferguson's name was
made by himself, not Mr. Garthwaite. Mr. Fazzone seconded the
approval. Motion Carried 5-0.
Mr. Fazzone moved to approve the minutes of August 2, 1990,
second~d by Mr. Garthwaite. Motion Carried 4-1. Mrs. Blazi
voted no as she was not present at that meeting.
Mr. Fazzone moved to approve the minutes of August 9, 1990,
seconded by Mr. Hildenbrand. Motion Carried 3-2. Mr. Hellsten
and Mrs. Blazi voted no as they were not present at that meeting.
NEW BUSINESS:
AN-0290 Annexation of Part of Lot 2 Located on the West Side of
U. S. 1. between 28th Street and Roberts Road: Irene Meinsinger,
authorized agent fo\- Lynne Storch, owner, was present to discuss
this item. Mr. Karet noted that annexation of this parcel had
been heard previously by the Agency, and the original intent was
to annex the entire parcel owned by Ms. Storch, but a portion
was omitted in error, and the applicant was here to have the
error corrected. Mr. Karet stated that the applicant had also
requested a waiving of the $300.00 annexation fee. He pointed
out that the Council must decide if the fee is to be waived.
Mrs. Blazi moved to recommend that Council approve the request
for annexation and waive the $300.00 fee. Mr. Hildenbrand
seconded the motion. Motion Carried 5-0.
SP-9007 CM&G Manufacturinq. Southwest Corner of 20th Street and
Guava Drive: Joe Martin, authorized agent for CM&G Manufacturing
was present. , Mr. Karet stated that Mr. Martin was coming to the
Agency on app~al, because there was disagreement on some of the
comments made by the Planning and Zoning Department. Mr. Karet
noted that all departments, except Planning and Zoning, have
signed off. Mr. Karet referred the members a letter dated
August 31, 1990 from the Planning and Zoning Department, and Mr.
Martin's response dated September 5, 1990. Mr. Karet stated that
items three (3) and fifteen (15) had been resolved, but items two
(2) through fourteen (14) were still in dispute.
The Planning and Zoning Department's position regarding item two
(2) is that a note should be placed on the site plan to insure
that the owner agrees that no more than three (3) employees will
be working, because the use is based on the parking provided.
Mr. Martin stated that there is no such requirement in the code,
and the problem needs to be addressed at the time of occupational
licensing. He asked if the requirement was for a total of three
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(3) employees or three (3) employees per shift. Mr. Fazzone
noted that the Agency had asked this of other applicants. Mr.
Garthwaite stated that if it is stated on the plan then there is
evidence that the developer knew of the requirement. Mr. Karet
agreed that it gives the city the ability to demonstrate that the
developer was informed of the codes. Mr. Hellsten stated that
perhaps a statement such as "if the site is used for light
manufacturing then only three (3) employees are permitted." Mr.
Hellsten added that if there are different shifts the site can
only have three (3) employees per shift.
Mr. Martin is disputing the Planning and Zoning Department's
position on item four (4), the req~red amount and type of
landscape buffer. Section 14-77 states~ ~~ndscaped buffer area
shall be established and maintained along the entire length of
and contiguous to any property line and shall not be less than
five (5) feet and landscaped with any combination of materials.
The Planning and Zoning Department does not interpret this to
mean that grass or gravel can be used as an alternative to shrubs
and trees. Mr. Karet stated that Section 14-76 defines
landscaping. Mr. Karet stated that if trees ;(and shrubs are not
included as a part of the combination of landscape materials,
then there will be no buffer between properties. He added that
since his tenure with the city began, all other projects brought
before the Agency had been required to put in a buffer landscaped
with shrubs. Mr. Hellsten and Mr. Garthwaite stated they had
researched the code and could not find anything to require a
buffer around the entire site. Mr. Hellsten added that the only
reference he could find was in the B-2 zoning district which
required a buffer along the front of a site and along any area
where the site abuts residentially zoned property. Mr. Karet
cited Section 715.02(7), Site plan approval, which discusses
buffers and landscaped areas and refers the reader to the Tree
Preservation and Protection Ordinance and the Landscape Ordinance
(Sections 14-76 and 14-77). Mr. Martin stated that he did not
object to buffering around the entire site, but there is no
authority to make the developer plant shrubs, and the code is
specific in allowing any combination, such as grass, mulch,
stones, gravel, and etc. Mr. Martin added that trees would have
to be planted to meet the Tree Preservation and Protection
Ordinance. After further discussion, the members agreed with Mr.
Martin's interpretation.
The Planning and Zoning Department's interpretation regarding
item seven (7) is that since protected trees were removed from
the site, plants which satisfy the technical definition of a tree
are to be provided to meet the requirement of one (1) tree for
everyone thousand five hundred (1,500) square feet of lot area.
A tree is defined as having a trunk diameter of at least six (6)
inches, four and one half (4 1/2) feet DBH above ground level and
fifteen (15) feet high. The site plan shows trees of four (4)
inches in caliper or greater measured twelve (12) inches above
the soil. Mr. Karet cited Section 14-62(e)..."In connection with
new construction of any development requiring site plan
approval...If the lot contains an insufficient number of existing
trees to meet this requirement, replacement trees shall be
installed. Mr. Martin stated that none of the trees on the site
are on the protected species list, and there are trees on the
site that are larger than required. He added that the large pines
and palms on the site are in the way of the proposed building and
are not required as per Article IV. Mr. Karet pointed out that
trees, other than those specifically listed, are protected, and
some of those trees were being removed. Mr. Karet stated the
department was asking for eight (8) trees with a six (6) inch
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caliper and four (4) trees that will meet the definition of a
replacement tree. Mr. Martin stated he would accept that if the
ordinance is clarified.
The Planning and Zoning Department asked that a statement be
placed on the site plan that if 20th Street is opened for
vehicular traffic the fence would then be within the visibility
triangle. Mr. Martin suggested the wording "If the city opens
the street, the lot would not meet the requirements of a corner
lot. II
The Planning and Zoning Department's opinion a proposed forklift
maneuvering area and a five percent (5%) grade ramp are
encroachments into the rear twenty foot (20') setback. Mr.
Karet cited the definition of a setback, as per Section 200.00 of
the code, and Section 305.00 regarding setback encroachments.
Mr. Martin stated the area will be used as a loading ramp and to
off-load raw material. After further discussion the member's
agreed that the ramp was actually an extension of the driveway
and they did not believe there was any setback encroachment.
The Planning and Zoning Department's opinion is that a proposed
balcony with stairs is an encroachment into the front setback.
Mr. Martin stated the balcony and stairs are intended as a "fire
escape" for people occupying the second floor office shown on the
site plan. He agreed that this was an encroachment into the
setback, but he believed that the code should be amended to allow
this type of encroachment. Mr. Karet noted that the fire escape
was not required by code. After some discussion it was agreed
that the encroachment would not be allowed. There was some
discussion about changing the code.
Mr. Fazzone moved to approve the site plan as noted below:
1) A notation is to be placed on the site plan that there
shall be no more than three (3) employees per shift
if the site is used for light manufacturing;
2) The landscape requirements meet city code, and
is acceptable;
3) Trees are to be eight (8) trees at six inches (6")
DBH, and four (4) trees are to meet the definition of
a replacement tree per city code;
4) A notation is to placed on the site plan that the
site will be a nonconforming corner lot if 20th
is opened.
5) The ramp is a continuation of the driveway and meets
code;
6) The balcony is an encroachment into the setback and
must be removed from the site plan.
The members agreed that the revised plans should be submitted to
the Planning and Zoning Director for final approval after the
revisions noted have been completed. Mrs. Blazi seconded.
Motion Carried 5-0.
Mrs. Blazi stated that the Planning and Zoning Director is doing
and extremely good job.
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Resiqnation of Don Benninqton:
that Mr. Bennington had resigned
member would be appointed at
meeting.
Mr. Karet informed the members
from the Agency and that a new
the next scheduled City Council
Mrs. Blazi believed that the Council should be
the Agency wanted professionals appointed,
alternate member.
made aware that
as well as an
Election of Vice-Chairman: Mrs. Blazi nominated Mr. Garthwaite.
but Mr. Garthwaite declined. Mrs. Blazi nominated Mr. Fazzone.
Nominations were then closed. Mr. Fazzone was elected vice-
chairman unanimously.
CONTINUED BUSINESS:
Land Development Requlations: The members agreed not to begin
discussion of this item because it was getting late.
Mr. Karet reminded the members that the regulations had to be
adopted by November. He also informed the members that a
t-epresentative from LaRue Planning and Management Services would
be at City Hall for a day in the near future to discuss and
answer questions the members may have. He added that each member
would be notified of the time and date.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Planninq and Zoninq Director's Reports: Mr. Karet informed the
members there was someone interested in entering into an
agreement with the city to develop a condominium or a motel in
the 8-4 zoning district. The developer is asking to build the
structure higher than currently allowed by code. He added that
the developer wants to know if the Agency would be interested in
hearing more about the proposed project. The members stated they
would be interested in hearing more about this.
Mr. Karet stated that Council will have to create the Ad Hoc sign
committee by resolution. Mr. Hellsten reminded the members that
a previous meeting they had listed the areas of expertise they
wanted for committ~e members ie: a developer, someone in real
estate, a member from the Chamber of Commerce, the chairman of
the LDRA, the Planning and Zoning Director, the City Attorney,
and a private citizen. Mrs. 8lazi moved to direct the Planning
and Zoning Department to send a recommendation to Council stating
that the LDRA recommends the formation of an Ad Hoc committee as
per the Council's previous action regarding the Sign Ordinance.
Chairman's Reports: Mr. Hellsten stated that Mr. Klein had
undergone a quintuple by-pass and should be able to return as a
member in approximately a month.
Aqency Member Reports: Mr. Fazzone asked Mr.
members regarding the proposed restaurant at
La Drive. Mr. Karet stated the applicants
Council if an agreement can not be worked out
Homeowners Association.
Karet to update the
U.S. 1 and Shangri-
will appeal to the
with the Shangri-La
There being no further business to come before the Agency, Mr.
Fazzone moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs. Blazi. The meeting
adjourned at approximately 9:20 p.m..
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