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CITY OF EDGEWATER
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 29, 1990
7:00 P.M.
EDGEWATER PUBLIC LIBRARY
Chairman C. Peter Hellsten
the Land Development and
Wednesday, August 29, 1990,
called to order a regular meeting of
Regulatory Agency at 7:18 p.m.,
in the Edgewater Public Library.
ROLL CALL: Members present were Mr. Bennington, Mrs. Blazi, Mr.
Fazzone, Mr. Garthwaite, Mr. Hellsten, and Mr. Hildenbrand. Mr.
Klein was excused. Also present were Mark P. Karet, Planning and
Zoning Director, Beverly Kinney, Secretary, and approximately 55
residents of Shangri-La Village. City Attorney Jose Alvarez
arrived at approximately 7:30 p.m..
APPROVAL OF
presented for
Bennington.
voted no, as
MINUTES: The minutes of June 27, 1990, were
approval. Mr. Fazzone so moved, seconded by Mr.
Motion Carried 4-2. Mr. Garthwaite and Mrs. Blazi
they were not present at that meeting.
Mr. Hellsten stated that since Mr. Alvarez had not yet arrived,
the members would discuss signs (item 6 on agenda) at this time.
It was noted that the Council had moved to suspend enforcement of
the sign ordinance at their August 20th meeting. The members
were given copies of sign ordinances from Winter Garden, New Port
Richey, the model DCA sign ordinance, and a booklet regarding
sign regulations for small and midsize communities prepared by
the American Planning Association. Mr. Karet discussed a memo he
had recently sent to the City Manager regarding suspension of the
city's sign ordinance. The members discussed forming an Ad Hoc
Committee to develop a suitable sign ordinance for Edgewater.
The members also discussed and agreed that the chairman of the
Agency, the Planning and Zoning Director, the Code Enforcement
Officer, the Assistant Planning and Zoning Director, the City
Manager, the City Attorney, some Council members, a business
person, someone from the Chamber of Commerce, someone from the
Home Builders Association, and a homeowner should be recommended
to Council to serve on the Ad Hoc Committee. Mr. Fazzone so
moved, seconded by Mrs. Blazi. The Motion Carried 6-0.
SP-9005 Restaurant U.S. 1 and Shanqri-La Drive: Mr. Garthwaite
moved to take this item off the table, seconded by Mrs. Blazi.
The Motion Carried unanimously. Daniel Johns, applicant, Winston
Tomlinson, owner, Alan Watts, attorney for Mr. Tomlinson, and Sid
Peterson, attorney for the Shangri-La Homeowners Association were
present.
A draft of the minutes of the July 12th meeting were made
available to the members. Mr. Karet gave a brief summary of the
past events regarding this site plan and stated that the site
plan met technical compliance with the code and staff recommended
approval on that basis.
There was discussion regarding the latest set of plans provided
to the city by the applicant and the fact that the members did
not receive them.
The members discussed the documents regarding Shangri-La Drive
from Bulow Abstract and Title Service which was provided at the
Agency's request to determine ownership. A Deed of Easement was
also provided at the Agency's request which granted an access
easement to the grantee (Marwin, Inc.) from Roy and Maxine
Coleman, J. Ronnie Bledsoe, Robert D. Martin, and Richard Martin
(Gr antors) .
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Mr. Alvarez stated that the plat had been recorded in 1982 and
the city (by ordinance and final plat) requires the developer to
dedicate all public thoroughfares. The developer is required to
install the infrastructure and place a bond with the city. After
one (1) year, if the infrastructure is intact, the city accepts
the responsibility of maintaining the improvements. Mr. Alvarez
went on to say that there was a disagreememt between the project
engineer and the city engineer regarding drainage, so the city
never accepted the improvements. The city's position is that the
streets and drainage problems are still the responsibility of the
developer. It was noted that the property owners have been
maintaining Shangri-La Drive and they claim some ownership
rights.
Mr. Watts stated that at this point, the applicant is caught in
the middle of a dispute between the developer of Shangri-La
Village and the city. Mr. Watts stated the information regarding
the title to Shangri-La Drive was provided to the Agency as they
requested.
Mr. Peterson stated the city has accepted the lift station, but
not the streets. Mr. Peterson stated the homeowners have made
improvements to Shangri-La Drive. He added that if the city
approved this proposed project it would be allowing the
development of commercial property with access to private
streets. Mr. Peterson also discussed the traffic hazards that
would go along with the use of Shangri-La Drive.
Mr. Fazzone pointed out that the last three (3) city managers
employed by the city have stated, in writing, that the homeowners
have to handle their own problems and maintenance for Shangri-La
Drive. It was noted that the homeowners have been carrying
liability coverage for the retention areas and the Shangri-La
Village entrance.
Mr. Fazzone moved to table SP-9005 until ownership of Shangri-La
Drive is established. Motion died due to the lack of a second.
Mr. Hellsten stated that the applicants have met all of the
city's requirements. If they don't approve the site plan the
applicant will take the city to court and if the agency does
approve the site plan, the homeowners will take the issue to
court.
Mr. Alvarez questioned Mr. Watts concerning the ownership of
Shangri-La Drive. Mr. Watts went into a lengthy discussion
regarding this issue. Mr. Watts, Mr. Peterson, and Mr. Alvarez
agreed that Shangri-La Drive is a public thoroughfare, and that
title to Shangri-La Drive was accepted by the city when the plat
was approved.
There was further discussion regarding ownership of Shangri-La
Drive and the problems that could develop if the commercial site
to the north of Shangri-La Drive is developed. Mr. Alvarez
stated the CIP includes Shangri-La Village, and the Agency could
send a recommendation to Council that they accept the streets for
maintenance which would take care of any remaining questions.
Mr. Watts stated that he believed a prudent design would require
access onto the side street. He added that the developer was
willing to pay his fair share of maintenance costs for Shangri-La
Drive.
Mr. Bennington asked for some type of compromise. He suggested
that the developer remove parking stalls 19-22 and use the area
as a wider access onto U.S. 1 so Shangri-La Drive does not have
to be used.
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Mr. Watts stated that two (2) means of access on U.S. 1 would
create too much traffic activity at the cut. Mr. Peterson
stated that traffic going onto Shangri-La Drive would be more of
a traffic hazard than north bound traffic having to make a "u"
turn to gain access to the site. Mr. Karet was asked to give his
professional opinion regarding the safest access. He stated that
technically speaking the Shangri-La Drive access is the safest.
Mr. Fazzone stated that if this project is allowed access onto
Shangri-La Drive, the property owner on the south side of
Shangri-La Drive will also want access, which will be more of a
burden at the intersection.
Frank Ferguson, president of the Shangri-La Homeowners
Association, discussed drainage problems on Paradise Lane, the
fact that he believed the city released the "retention bond"
with no final inspections. He also stated the FDOT needs to
redesign the current traffic flow. He discussed the speed limit
and the median cut with traffic from Seldom Seen, Shangri-La
ViII age, and peop 1 e mak i ng "U" turns. There was fur ther
discussion regarding the retention problems in Shangri-La
Village. Mr. Karet stated that the stormwater management
ordinance required that the rate of discharge from the site
remain unchanged for a "100 year storm event", and that the
volume of a "25 year storm event" must be retained on site. As a
result, the development of this site should not negatively affect
Shangri-La. Mr. Watts stated the proposed Capital Improvements
Program (CIP) will help ease the retention problems in Shangri-La
Village.
Traffic congestion was also further discussed. Mr. Alvarez
stated that if the Agency denies a project because of increased
traffic, no one would be able to develop their property.
Mr. Watts stated that if the Homeowners Association wants, the
developer will remove Shangri-La's grassed median at the area
closest to U.S. 1 and put in a left turn lane. Mr. Ferguson
declined the offer, because the Association had paid to install
the lighting and the sprinkler system in the median.
Mr. Fazzone moved to table for further information and until all
questions are answered. Motion failed due to the lack of a
second.
Mrs. Blazi stated that the items required at the July 12th
meeting have been provided, and there is no reason not to approve
this plan.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to grant approval, seconded by Mrs. Blazi.
The motion failed 3-3. Mr. Hildenbrand, Mr. Bennington, and Mr.
Fazzone voted no due to safety factors regarding traffic.
Mr. Watts asked if the 3-3 vote meant a tie. Mr. Hellsten
explained that anything dealing with development required at
least 4 pro votes for the item to be approved. Mr. Watts asked
what the next step for appealing is. Mr. Alvarez stated he could
appeal the Agency's decision to the City Council.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Mr. Karet appologized to the members for their not having a copy
of SP-9005.
Mr. Karet informed the members that DCA
city's comprehensive plan, and stated
responding to DCA's objections.
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Mr. Karet went through the items pending before the Agency.
The members discussed Mr. Klein's illness and the amount of time
he will need for recovery.
There was
Restaurant
discussion regarding work being
(paving some of the parking area).
done at Fat Bob's
There being no further business to come before the Agency, Mr.
Hildenbrand moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Fazzone. The
meeting adjourned at approximately 10:05 p.m..
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
Wednesday, August 29, 1990
Minutes Respectfully submitted by:
Beverly Kinney, Secretary
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