01-11-1990
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LAND
CITY OF EDGEWATER
DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, JANUARY 11, 1990
6:30 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
Chairman Nancy Blazi called to order a regular meeting of the
Land Development and Regulatory Agency at 6:30 p.m., on Thursday,
January 11, 1990, in the Community Center.
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ROLL CALL:
Members present were Mr. Bennington, Mrs. Blazi, Mr. Fazzone, Mr.
Garthwaite, Mr. Hellsten, Mr. Klein, and Mrs. Martin. Also
present were Mark P. Karet, Director of Planning and Zoning,
William Vola, Fire and Rescue Chief, Mike Hayes of the fire
department, Councilman Danny Hatfield, and Beverly Kinney,
Secretary.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of September 28, 1989, were presented for approval.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to approve, seconded by Mrs. Martin. Motion
Carried 4-2. Mr. Hellsten and Mr. Klein voted no. Mr. Fazzone
abstained.
The minutes of December 14, 1989, were presented for approval.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to approve, seconded by Mrs. Martin. Motion
Carried 5-0. Mrs. Blazi and Mr. Hellsten abstained.
The minutes of December 18, 1989, were presented for approval.
Mrs. Martin moved to approve, seconded by Mr. Garthwaite. Motion
Carried 7-0.
The minutes of December 28, 1989, were presented for approval.
Mr. Fazzone moved to approve, seconded by Mr. Hellsten. Motion
Carried 6-1. Mr. Bennington voted no.
CONTINUED ITEMS:
VA-8908 Variance 2304 Victory Palm Drive
(Dwinal Property)
William Hathaway, Attorney, was present to request a variance to
place a canvas awning over a preexisting concrete slab and place
screened panels on the inside fenced area within the required
building setback. Mr. Karet gave a brief summary of the
location, zoning, and required setbacks of the property. He
noted there was a 3,000 square foot "envelope" in which to build.
It was noted by Mr. Karet that no hardship exists because there
are other areas on the property where the "screen room" could be
built and not encroach into the required setback or cause an
increase in the nonconformity of the structure. Mr. Karet
pointed out the fence erected around the existing slab was
permitted by the city, but the awning and the screen panels were
a violation of Section 305.00 (setback encroachments for all
districts), and Section 400.03 (nonconforming structures). Mr.
Karet went through the five (5) criteria citing the planning
departments reasons for recommending denial of the variance
request.
Mr. Hathaway presented photographs to the members showing
interior and exterior views of the "screen room". Mr. Hathaway
stated he was amending his request of five feet six inches (5'6")
to three feet two inches (3'2"), because the awning actually
started at the wall of the building not at the edge of the roof.
Mr. Hathaway believed the "screen room" should not be considered
a structure because it was removable. The screen panels are
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freestanding and the awning can be rolled up.
Mr. Hathaway stated the Dwinal's had applied for a fence permit
and a permit for the awning. The Dwinal's had even supplied a
photograph of a similar awning so the building department would
be aware of their intentions. When they came to City Hall to
pick up their permits, they were told no permit was required for
the awning. It was noted by Mr. Karet that inhouse inquiries
have not substantiated the applicant's contention. The Dwinal's
were then cited by the code enforcement department. Mr.
Hathaway believed that based upon representation of the city, the
Dwinal's should be granted the variance. The members and Mr.
Karet discussed the process for issuing a building permit. Mr.
Hathaway added the Dwinal's had expended money based on
information received from the city. He also added that the
expense of removing the screen panels and the awning constitute a
hardship. Mr. Hathaway stated the Dwinal's would agree to a time
limit of five (5) years or until the "death" of the awning, and
would pay any permitting fee applicable.
Mr. Karet noted the Dwinal's had been cited by the
enforcement department, but as yet had not gone before the
Enforcement Board. He added that the Dwinal's may have
inconvenienced, but there was no hardship. The applicant
demonstrate that no reasonable use of the property can be
without a variance in order to demonstrate a hardship.
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After much discussion the majority of the Agency members agreed
they sympathized with the Dwinal's, but did not believe they met
the requirements for a variance.
The members voted on the variance criteria. Items A, B, C, and E
failed. Item D passed. Mr. Klein moved to deny the variance
request because four (4) of the five (5) criteria had not been
met. Mr. Fazzone seconded. Motion Carried 5-2. Mrs. Blazi and
Mr. Hellsten voted no. Mrs. Blazi noted she was very concerned
about possible misinformation being given out by city employees
to the general public.
Mrs. Blazi called a recess at 8:05 p.m.
back to order at 8:15 p.m.
The meeting was called
NEW ITEMS:
SP-8918 Sea Treasure Seafood Addition
109 Everqreen Drive
Mr. Fred Harpster, engineer-authorized agent, and Nester
Olijynk, owner,were present to request preliminary site plan
approval. Mr. Karet pointed out the site plan had not been
approved by the fire or planning department, because it does not
meet code, and staff recommends denial of the request.
William Vola discussed fire flows, codes, fire hydrants,
occupancy levels, regarding the proposed addition. In his
professional opinion the current fire flow would not support the
present or the proposed addition. He noted the water line is
forty-five (45) years old and is only two inches (2") wide, which
provides less than thirty (30) gallons per minute (gpm) to fight
a fire, and seven hundred fifty (750)gpm is the minimum amount of
gpm needed for fire protection.
Mr. Vola noted the
hundred sixty feet
seven hundred feet
closest fire hydrants are approximately two
(260') away on the west side of U.S. 1 and
(700') away on the east side of U.S. 1.
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Mr. Vola added that In the event of a fire U.S. 1 would have to
be shut down and the traffic would have to be rerouted. Mr. Vola
noted that the Florida Department of Transportation traffic
counts indicate that traffic would be backed up for over a mile
north and south on U.S. 1. Mr. Vola informed the members that he
had received a memo from Police Chief Schumaker which stated a
fire at the seafood market would be a burden on the police
department in trying to reroute traffic from U.S. 1.
Mr. Vola believed there were solutions to the developers
problem. The six inch (6") line could be extended under U.S. 1
from the west side to the east side, but it would not be
financially feasible. A six inch (6") line could be extended up
from Riverside Drive at approximately ten dollars ($10.00) a
linear foot, or a sprinkler system could be put in the building
by running an extra two inch (2") line at a cost of approximately
two dollars ($2.00) per linear foot.
It was noted by Mr. Karet that the developer had been notified of
the options available to correct the fire flow problem, but chose
not to take them.
There was some discussion regarding fire
southern part of Florida Shores. Councilman
was not aware of the problem until the fire
formed and Mr. Vola had been hired.
protection in the
Hatfield stated he
department had been
Mr. Harpster stated he was not aware of the problem of fire
protection until recently. He was not sure a five hundred and
seventy (570) square foot addition would be that much of a fire
hazard, and the owner wanted to come to the Agency with the plans
as they are.
Mr. Olijynk asked the Agency to overrule the decision of the Fire
Chief. He stated the original building had been built in 1986,
his insurance company gave him a lower rate because he fell just
within the maximum allowable distance from a fire hydrant, his
insurance rates will stay the same even with a sprinkler system,
his place of business is inspected by the Health Department (for
grease, etc.) every forty five (45) days, the city fire
department could inspect every business every three (3) months to
help prevent fires, the addition will be made of cinder block,
the addition itself is small, there is plenty of time for escape
in case of a fire, the sprinkler system could fail, the police
department could reroute traffic if there was a fire, the chance
of a fire in any given location is once every three (3) years,
and if he had known about the fire protection problems in the
beginning he would not have started this project. He pointed out
that the former fire safety inspector had originally approved the
site plan and since this plan had been in the pipeline during the
transition period of fire safety the former fire safety
inspectors decision should be used. Mr. Oiljynk believed if fire
safety was such a big problem, then there should be a building
moratorium.
Mr. Klein was excused from the meeting at approximately 9:00 p.m.
It was noted that over the current cooking area there was dry
chemical fire suppression, not a sprinkling system.
Mr. Bennington moved that the developer must bring site plan up
to standards with a two inch (2") line from Riverside Drive for a
sprinkler system. Mr. Hellsten seconded. Mr. Garthwaite amended
the motion to state the site plan has to meet fire codes of the
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city and N.F.P.A. codes. Mr. Bennington and Mr. Hellsten agreed
to the amendment. Mr. Bennington then withdrew his motion, and
Mr. Hellsten withdrew his second.
Mr. Bennington moved to approve the preliminary site plan, but
the owner/developer must meet one (1) of any of the suggestions
made by the fire chief as per his December 8, 1989 memo. Mr.
Hellsten seconded. Motion Carried 6-0.
SP-8919 Robert Graham Office BuildinQ Guava Drive
Mr. Graham, property owner,
plan. Mr. Karet noted that
applicant, and the planning
and final site plan approval.
was present to discuss this site
all requirements had been met by the
department recommended preliminary
There was discussion as to the proposed use of the building. Mr.
Bennington pointed out storage was not a permitted use in the B-2
district and from the site plan submitted it seemed that storage
would be the primary use. Mr. Graham stated he would be storing
two (2) trucks and some of his drywall supplies for his business,
and he would also have an office in the building.
There was also discussion regarding the number of parking stalls
shown on the site plan, which totaled three (3). There was
further discussion regarding the limited use of the building
because of the lack of parking provided. It was noted that Mr.
Graham was aware that the permitted uses would be limited. There
was discussion about placing some type of wording in the deed so
that if someone purchased the property from Mr. Graham, they
would be aware that the parking limited the use of the building.
Mr. Graham agreed to this.
Mr. Garthwaite moved to approved preliminary and final site plan
approval provided documents were presented to the city prior to
the certificate of zoning being issued regarding the limited use
of the building due to the lack of parking. Mr. Hellsten
seconded the motion. Motion Carried 6-0
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
There was discussion about the city attorney attending meetings
in the future. Mr. Bennington moved to have the city attorney
start attending every first meeting of the Agency each month,
seconded by Mr. Hellsten. Motion Carried 6-0.
There was a request by some of the members to have coffee
provided at future meetings.
Mr. Hellsten asked to be excused from the January 24, 1990
meeting.
There being no further business to come before the Agency, Mr.
Hellsten moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs. Martin. The meeting
adjourned at approximately 10:00 p.m.
Land Development and Regulatory Agency
Regular Meeting
Thursday, January 11, 1990
Minutes Respectfully Submitted by:
Beverly Kinney, Secretary
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