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09-21-1983 Special ., ... -u o CITY OF EDGEWATER Building Code Board September 21, 1983 Minutes Mr. Fred Vanzin, Secretary, called the special meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Community Center. Members present: Messrs. Cole, Hall, Troutner and Vanzin. Excused: Mr. Howard. Also present: Joan Taylor, Secretary, and Lorin Coppock. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made by Mr. Hall and seconded by Mr. Cole to approve the minutes of the July 21, 1983 meeting. The motion CARRIED 4-0. OLD BUSINESS Floor height of buildings The secretary explained that at the April 21st meeting ,---the members discussed the Building Official's recommendation that an additional paragraph be added to the Board's request to Council that floor elevatiornbe lowered. This would read, "to show a flow plan for the water run-off with the application for the building permit, or a plot plan that must show an acceptable water flow plan." The Board had approved adding this to their motion which was to be taken care of at the July 21 meeting, after the Board had time to study the issue further. At the July '21 meeting, the motion reo floor elevations was made, but the recommendation of the Building Official was not included in the motion. This meeting tonight was called to reconsider the motion and to clarify it and the reasons for it when making the recommendation to Council. The members discussed this recommendation of the Building Official. Mr. Cole felt that this requirement would create problems for the builder, and the other members generally agreed. They believed it would be difficult to know which way the water would flow at the time they applied for a building permit. They felt this could be misintrepreted to mean that an engineer would have to lay it out. The Vanzin pointed out that the Health Department wants the houses up because of the septic tanks. They agreed the drainage is a problem, but they felt putting this in the Code would create problems also. Mr. Vanzin noted that the property owner is responsible for the water on his property. The members felt that this should not be included in their motion. Mr. Hall motioned to delete the additional paragraph to the motion on the floor height of buildings which had been recommended by the Building Official. The motion was seconded by Mr. Troutner and CARRIED 4-0. Approval by a State certified subcontractor for work prepared by the owner There was a lengthy discussion of the recommendation that owner/builder's work be approved by a State certified or registered subcontractor. They commented that the owner/builder often thinks he is ready for an inspection, when he is not and the building inspector must return again and again for an inspection. The Coppock commented that he felt it would be difficult to get a certified contractor to sign off on a job which he had not been following. The members discussed the responsibility of the certified subcontractors and if this would open them up for lawsuits. Mr. Coppock remarked that an owner/builder could not do their own electrical work in New Smyrna Beach. They generally agreed that if the building inspector was thorough there should be no need for a certified subcontractor to sign off. Mr. Troutner said he would not be inclined to jeopardize his license by signing off on a job he had not done. They agreed that if this recommendation went into ordinance form, they would have to document for the building office that they had inspected it. It was brought out that it was Mr. Charlie Murphy's recommendation, as he did not feel the building inspector could be an expert in all three fields: electrical, mechanical and plumbing. Mr. Vanzin commented that in a court of law, he felt the man who inspected the work for the home owner would be held responsible. The members felt that the electrical was the most important. They suggested getting a copy of the New Smyrna Beach ordinance governing electrical work. ~ ~ ~ o Mr. Hall made a motion to table this matter until the next meeting, and to obtain a copy of the New Smyrna Beach ordinance referred to by Mr. Coppock. The motion was seconded by Mr. Troutner, and CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Coppock said he would pick up a copy of the ordinance and see that Mr. Howard gets it. MISCELLANEOUS The members discussed the procedure for hiring a Building Official. Mr. Hall said that it was his understanding that if people have a problem with the Building Official that they should appeal to the Building Code Board; he thought it was part of the Board's duties. Mr. Cole commented that perhaps the Council should have referred complaints to the Board; the Board could have talked to the Building Official to see what the problems were. They referred to the Southern Standard Building Code. The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m. Minutes submitted by Joan Taylor Building Code Board September 21, 1983 - 2 -