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09-16-1980 r"-, r. " u o BUILDING CODE Regular Meeting September 16, 1980 Chairman Pilch called the regular meeting of the Edgewater Building Code to order on September 16, 1980 at 7:30 P.M. in City Hall. ROLL CALL Mr. Hall Mr. Troutner Mr. Cole Mr. Harris Mr. Pilch Absent Present Absent Present Present APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Harris made a motion to approve the minutes of the Auqust 19 meeting, Mr. Troutner made the second. Upon roll call vote the motion CARRIED 3-0. COMMUNICATIONS Chairman Pilch read the letters that went to the City Council from the board concerning the number of members needed for a quorum. We are waiting for an opinion from the City Attorney on this, as well as the progress report on the:ICorbett Smith property. REPORTS Mr. Hall is bringing us the method used in licensing people in Brevard County. NEW BUSINESS Chairman Pilch gave a report on the new laws that are to go into effect October 1, 1980. One of these laws has to do with the energy efficiency code. We are now operating under Appendix J. After October 1, 1980, Appendix J is not valid. He questions what the City will do then. Mr. Murphy stated that this would be up to the Code board. Chairman Pilch went on to ask what the other governing bodies are doing. Mr. Murphy stated that Volusia County is using their own and he does not know what New Smyrna Beach is doing. u ~ Mr. Harris asked it it would be possible for each member to have a copy of these laws. Chairman Pilch stated that he has just one copy and it belongs to the City Clerk. He stated that he does not know how the board can change -this in such short notice. Mr. Harris asked when is the deadline. Chairman Pilch stated that October 1st is when the new laws come into effect. Mr. Harris asked if there was any way this can be cooied. Chairman Pilch stated that with such short notice there is no way we can change this. Mr. Harris stated that we should have a complete copy of these laws to study before making the changes. There was discussion again about copies being furnished. Mr. Woods has told Mr. Pilch to get in touch with Nancy Blazi and she should be able to get copies of these laws to them. Mr. Murphy stated that he was surorised that the State Energy Group has not sent us these laws. Mr. Harris suggested that we get copies of these laws and discuss them at our next meeting and then make our recommendations to the City. He made a motion that a letter be written to the City Council asking them to get Mr. Mur,phy a copy of the laws. Mr. Murphy stated that this is strickly oaoerwork. There was ~urther discussion. Mr. Harris withdrew his motion and stated that the way it stands we are asking the City Clerk for conies and this could be done at our next regular meetin9. Chairman Pilch stated that he feels we should also have copies of the Florida Model Energy Efficiency Code for 8uilding Construction. At this time Mr. Holahan spoke 0f the July 15th letter that was sent to the City Council recommending a feasibility study of putting a building official on salary or keeping him on presentage basis as he is now working. He stated that he has talked to several members of the board and they thought it was for a feasibility study. He went on to say that when it went to the Council it wasn1t a discus- sion of a study it was moved that they advertise for a building official. Mr. Holahan stated that it must have been misinterpretted there was no discussion of a feasibility study on it; he feels that the board should withdraw that letter and submit a new letter and make it very plain that they want a feasibility study rather than just advertise for a new building official. This is supposed to be brought back up before October 2, and he feels that the intention of the Building Code should be corrected. He feels that this was improperly acted upon. -2- o '.J Mr. Opal stated that since then it has been brought un in a budget meeting and it wasn't brought up as a feasibility st~dy. They are setting aside something like $29,000 for a buildin~ official. Chairman Pilch read a copy of the letter that went to the Council. Mr. Holahan stated that he feels a board member here toniqht should make a motion to clarify this and have it brought back to the Council again to be read as it was intended. Mr. Troutner made a motion that it should be brouqht up at the meeting. The way it stands there, you are asking the City to hire a new building official and it was not meant that way. Chairman Pilch stated that he feels that is what we asked them to check into. He wanted the merit of hiring a building official as a full time employee as opposed to being on a contracted basis checked into. There was more discussion on this. Mr. Harris seconded the motion. Mr. Holahan stated that he feels you have to make a motion now because the hoard will not be meeting again until the middle of October and that will be too late. Mr. Harris feels that we should follow through on the same motion we had before. Mr. Murphy stated that he would like to clarify something on the budget. If they are going to put it in on a salary basis, they have to add taxes, insurance and so forth. Mr. Harris stated he has heard rumors that Mr. Murphy is not going to stay with the City and they will have to do something. Mr. Murphy stated that he was secretary of the Elks in his spare time he handles the paperwork that is all. There was more discussion about the letter that went to the Council. Mr. Troutner stated that the intention of the letter was for the Council to look into it and that is all. Mr. Holahan stated that he feels that the Council misunderstood the letter. The board should correct it. Chairman Pilch asked if the board would like to send another letter to the Council saying that there was discussion and the wording of the letter sent to them earlier was in error and did not actually read the way board meant it to read. The board would like to have the opportunity to check into the tapes. Mr. Holahan stated this will be brought up again October 2nd. At this time Chairman Pilch asked to read back what the motion was. (The tape was stopped and turned over so the board could listen to their motion) The tape was resumed. Mr. Troutner made a motion that the letter be rewritten according to what the tape said. Mr. Harris made the second, adding that he feels that we should get the tape out and find out what is on it. Chairman Pilch asked for a recess so that Mrs. Wadsworth could call Mrs. Blazi to see if we can get the tapes and try to get this taken care of now. -3- ~ ~ ;. There was a ten minute recess. Mr. Harris made a motion that the Chairman contact all the board members to meet at City Hall as soon as possible to listen to the tape. He feels that this is urgent. Mr. Troutner made the second. There was further discussion. Mr. Harris withdrew his mGtioo, Mr. Troutner withdrew his second. Mr. Harris made a motion that the Chairman contact all the Buildtng Code Board members to find the most convenient time for all concerned and inform them what the outcome of when we can all come down to listen to the tapes. He added that we should have a special meeting as soon as possible after listening to the tapes. Mr. Troutner made the second. The motton CARRIED 3-0. Chairman Pilch asked if there was anything else anyone would like to bring up. Mr. Opal spoke to the board about the statute listing the qualificattons of members to make up the Building ilide Board. This is not being abided by. Mr. Harris explained that this has been gone over several times and you can~t get all the occupations covered in Edgewater. The section of the Standard Building Code settinq the member- s h i' P was rea d . Mr. Opal stated that he has a letter into the City Council and the c'tty Attorney will give them an opinion. ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Harris made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by Mr. Troutner. The motion CARRIED. MINUTES TAKEN BY: Susan Wadsworth -4- y \ ~ illitt! of iEbgelUuter POST OFFICE BOX 100 EDGEWATER. FLORIDA 32032 July 16, 1980 Mayor and City Council Edgewater, Florida 32032 Dear Mayor and City Council, At our regular meeting of the Building Code, which was held on July 15, 1980. Mr. Pilch made a motion that the board ask the Council to check into hiring a full time Building Official as an employee. We now have a contracted Building Official and the board feels that it may be more feasible to have the Building Official on the payroll. Mr. Cole made the second. 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FLORIDA 32032 September 8, 1980 MEMO TO: Mayor and CIty Council MEMO FROM: Building Code SUBJECT: Discrepency between Southern Standard Buiding Code and the Edgewater Code of Ordinances At the regular meeting of August 19, 1980. There was a discussion on the discrepency between the Southern Standard Building Code and the Edgewater Code of Ordinances. On page 1~13 of the SouthernStandard~uilding Code Section 111.3 Quorum, three (3) members of the board shall constitute a quorum. In verifying the application of any provision of this code or in modifying an order if the Building Official, affirmative votes shall be required. A Board member shall not act in a case in which he has a person~l interest. In the Edgewater Code of Ordiances it reads, page 479 Section 7-5, SAME organization quorum. The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall designate and elect one of its members to act as secretary, to file copies of the minutes of the meeting with the office of the City Clerk. Four (4) members of said board shall constitute a quorum. Affirmative vote of major- ity of said board present at a meeting shall be necessary to adopt any ruling. We would like to have our City Attorney look into this and have them bqth agree. 1/ - (~~ (C {~l~ E.A. Pilch Jr. EAPjsjw --