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08-19-1980 \ ,,_. Q u (' ~(' (VI' CITY OF EDGEWATER BUILDING CODE BOARD REGULAR MEETING August 19, 1980 Chairman Pilch called the regular meeting of the Building Code to order on August 19, 1980 in the City Clerk's office. ROLL CALL Mr. Hall Mr. Troutner Mr. Cole Mr. Harris Mr. Pilch Present Absent Present Present Present APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Harris made a motion to accept the minutes of the regular meet- ing of July 15, 1980. Mr. Cole seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0. COMMUNICATIONS The memo from the City Clerk to the City Council on reviewing of the tape recording of the July 15, 1980 Building Code Board meeting was read by the board. Information only. The letter to the Council for the Building Code Board concerning the appointing of Mr. Pilch as Chairman and Mr. Troutner as Vice Chair- man of the Board. Information only. The letter to the City Council concerning the Building Official from the Building Code was read by the board. Information only. Chairman Pilch stated that we must elect a secretary from the Board. The by-laws call for a secretary. Mr. Cole made a motion to have Mr. Hall act as secretary for the Building Code Board. Mr. Harris seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Hall will act as secretary of this board. REPORTS None OLD BUSINESS There was much discussion on the progress report on the Corbett Smith property. The board asked to have the City Attorney give a report to when the agreement took place and when the 90 days will be up. A letter is to go to Judson woods on this. NEW BUSINESS Chairman Pilch brought to the attention of the board that there is an apparent discrepency between the Southern Standard Building Code and our City Charter on the Quorum. On pages 1-13 of the Southern Standard Building Code Section 111.3 Quorum, three (3) members of the board shall constitute a quorum. In verifji'ngl the application of any provisions of this code or in modifying an order of the Building Official, affirmative votes of the majority present, but not less than three (3) affirmative votes shall be required. A board member shall not act in a case in which he has a personal in- terest. In the Edgewater Code of Ordinances it reads, page 479 Section 7-5, SAME organization quorum. The Board of Adjustments and appeals shall desi9nate of elect one . o u ~ of its members to act as secretary, to file copies of the minutes of the meeting with the office of the City Clerk. Four (4) members of said board shall constitute a quorum. Affirmative vote of major- ity of said board present at a meeting shall be necessary to adopt any ruling. A letter to this affect will go to the Attorney. Mr. Cole made a motion that a letter go to the Council bringing this to their attention. Mr. Hall seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-0. Chairman Pilch brought up the licenses of various trades people. Mr. Hall is getting information from Broward County on this. Chairman Pilch asked Mr. Murphy how do we go about getting to know that the people are licensed by the City are qualified to do the job. Mr. Murphy stated that there is no way of knowing carpenters or dry- wall. Mr. Murphy stated that plumbers, electricians, air condition- ing people we do have an accuate check on them through their employ- ers. We require the Masters to have cards and the Journeyman have cards. We have not had any problems with this. The carpenters are in and out. We do not requirer a carpenter to have cards. Mr. Harris stated that he thinks what Mr. Pilch is thinking about is that we have had a couple of complaints about you come in to take out a permit and you put down a certian contractor and then they do not know their name is on their. Then they get someone that may not even have a license to do the work and Frank's name is put on there and as far as the City knows Frank is doing the work. Mr. Murphy stated he had found a couple of contractors we found out that they were legitiment. Mr. Holahah stated that sometimes we run into a problem where we have Frank as the plumber and we try and get Frank out there and he doesn't get there so we call Walton Piser to come in and do the job. This is after the permit is taken. There was some discussion on this. Chairman Pilch asked what exams were required for this. Mr. Murphy stated that mainly block. In air conditioning there is none. Taking certified exams or plumbing is block the elect is block the State is just getting into plumbing registeration and certification. The Block exam is the main one. Mr. Harris asked if he had a license to build in Edgewater and there are builders that don't have a license, how many of them can I buy permits for? How many companies can I legally buy for? Mr. Murphy stated that as long as you are running their work it does not make any difference. You can be qualified for two companies. A person who builds a house is not a contractor unless he has a license. Mr. Hall stated that the State Inspector stated that you can regis- ter two companies, you can take permits out in one name and one corporation or two corporations. Mr. Hall made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Cole seconded the motion. Meeting Adjourned. Mintues submitted by: Susan Wadsworth Attended Kathy Cornelius Typed Minutes -2- 1 ~ . l , . I Q o Q1itt! of 1EilgflUtttt:+ POST OFFICE BOX 100 EDGEWATER. FLORIDA32032 September 8, 1980 MEMO TO: Mayor and CIty Council MEMO FROM: Building Code SUBJECT: Discrepency between Southern Standard Buiding Code and the Edgewater Code of Ordinances At the regular meeting of August 19, 1980. There was a discussion on the discrepency between the Southern Standard Building Code and the Edgewater Code of Ordinances. On page 1-13 of the Southern Standard Building Code Section 111.3 Quorum, three (3) members of the board shall constitute a quorum. In verifying the application of any provision of this code or in modifying an order if the Building Official, affirmative votes shall be required. A Board member shall not act in a case in which he has a person~l interest. In the Edgewater Code of Ordiances it reads, page 479 Section 7-5, SAME organization quorum. The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall designate~d elect one of its members to act as secretary, to file copies of the minutes of the meeting with the office of the City Clerk. Four (4) members of said board shall constitute a quorum. Affirmative vote of major- ity of said board present at a meeting shall be necessary to adopt any ruling. We would like to have our City Attorney look into this and have them bqth agree. . I /- /. . \ / / ' ( I { /1~:, ~ ~ ~ '---t---' E.A. Pilch Jr. EAP/sjw -. o Q <Uity of 1Eogewater . ~'R~M4~IiBlSUtKlll EDGEWATER. FLORIDA 32032 CERTIFIED MAIL RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED Address reply to: Post Office Box 1221 New Smyrna Beach, FL 32069 August 22, 1980 Edward J. Richardson, Esquire 100 West New Haven Ave. Melbourne, FL 32901 Re: Corbitt Smith - Marion Street Property Dear Ed: As you may remember, Mr. Smith represented to our Building Code Board of Adjustments on June 18, 1980 that he would take action to correct the conditions existing on his property at Marion St., which conditions do not meet the standards of our Building Code. For your information I am enclosing a copy of. those minutes. As you can see, certain action was to be taken within thirty days, specifically the razing of Building .B and the correction of other unsafe conditions on the other buildings. You. will note that all work was to be completed within ninety days. . As I compute it, the ninety days will expire September 16,1980. I would like for you to send me a full report of what action has been taken by Mr. Smith to correct these deficiencies so that I may report same to the Building Official and to the Building Code Board of Adjustments. If all deficiencies are not corrected by the above stated date, that is September 16, 1980, please be ad- vised that it will be necessary to take legal action against Mr. Smith. May I hear from you shortly? JIW,Jr./jrnm Enclosure cc: Mr. J. Herget, City Clerk Sincerely, Judson I. Woods, Jr. City Attorney CITY OF EDGEWATER RECEIVED fAUG 25 19fi) - ~"~ /< . CJ 0 arltt! of iEbgewater POSTOFFICE BOX 100 EDGEWATER, FLORIDA 32032 August 21, 1980 Memo to: The Mayor and the City Council Memo from: Building Code Board Subject: Corbett Smith At the regular meeting of the Building Code Board held on August 19, 1980. The Board members decided to ask the City Council to find out the progress of the Corbett Smith case from the City Attorney. We would also like to know when the agreement with Mr. Smith took place and when will be the completion date of this job. Jr. ~ .~ pYa>'