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CITY OF EDGEWATER
Board of Adjustments
October 16, 1984
Hinutes
Chairman Garthwaite called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Shuffle-
board Clubhouse.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Mrs. Martin, Mrs. Hurphy, Messrs. Moran, Savini, Roush,
Newell and Garthwaite. Also present: Mrs. Taylor, Secretary, and one
member of the press.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Roush asked if the minutes were correct where they make reference to
Mr. Gold asking if Mr. Coleman had to go to the Planning Board for his addi-
tion. He felt it should be Mr. Carter. The secretary explained that he
was referring to Mr. Coleman, because Mr. Gold had to go before the Planning
Board and he wanted to know if Mr. Coleman also had to go before the Planning
Board for site plan approval of his proposed addition. Both properties are
in R-4 zones.
Mrs. Martin moved to approve the september 13, 1984 minutes. The motion was
seconded simultaneously by Mr. Moran and Mr. Savini, and CARRIED 7-0.
OLD BUSINESS
For the benefit of the people in the audience, Mr. Garthwaite explained that
Ordinance 880 was approved by the City of Edgewater in 1974. Its design was
to upgrade the zoning in the City of Edgewater, provide guidance for future
development, promote the public health, safety and welfare. The Board of
Adjustments has been given the power to grant variances to this ordinance
whereby reasons of unnecessary hardship or practical difficulties, the literal
enforcement of the requirements of this ordinance would not carry out the spirit
and purpose of the ordinance. He noted that there are five requirements that
have to be met to grant a variance. and those will be reviewed by the Board for
each case before it. Any appeal to the Board's decision will be to the Circuit
Court.
The Coleman Construction Company cases are continued from the September 13 meet-
ing.
Coleman Construction Co., Inc. - Variance of 6 feet to the rear setback
to permit construction of an 8 x 15 foot screen room at 403 Shangri-La Circle.
Mr. R. A. Coleman was present to speak to the Board, representing Mrs. Weiler,
owner of the property.
The question as to whether this R-4 property is nonconforming due to the
amendment to the ordinance which changes the rear setback from 20 feet to
25 feet was discussed, and Mr. Garthwaite read the City Attorney's letter
concerning the subject into the record. It stated, "Section 400 of the
City Code spells out very specifically three types of nonconformance: a),
lots; b), uses of land and structures and c), structures. Typically these
nonconformities are found in case of future amendments to the ordinance
which change zoning districts, their character or the official zoning map.
As in this case, a change in the text of the ordinance involving setbacks
does not necessarily create a nonconforming use of lots, land or structure
use. The Board still has the option to hear a setback variance if all other
prerequisites are present." Mr. Garthwaite intreprets this to mean that
the Board can hear a request for a variance and can grant or deny a variance.
Hr. Savini said that the Code now calls for a 25 foot variance and this pro-
perty will have just 14 feet from the building to the property line.
Mr. Newell asked why the new homes are built without a screen room to begin
with. Mr. Coleman explained that the homes were built according to Code.
The people who bought the home had enjoyed a screen room at their previous
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home and wanted to have the same thing at this place.
Mrs. Murphy said that she is not sure Mr. Alvarez is answering their question.
The Board wanted to find out if they can add to the nonconformity and he refers
to the nonconforming use of lots. It's still going to be residential. That
is not what the Board was worried about, she noted. The Board is worried
about the places in the ordinances that say over and over again that you
can't add to a nonconforming structure. He's referring to the use of. lots.
If he had just said, "As in this case, a change in the text of the ordinance
involving setbacks does not create a nonconforming lot" I would have been
happier, Mrs. Murphy commented. The members agreed that the letter is not
clear.
On another matter, Mrs. Murphy remarked that she is concerned about the
Board's liability and raised the question of liability insurance for the
members.
Advertising and notification of abutting property owners was verified.
The members reviewed the criteria for the: granting: of a variance. Mrs.
Martin motioned that the request for the variance,which will leave him 14 feet
to the property line, should be granted. Mr. Savini stated that he felt the
addition will help beautify the area. Mrs. Murphy said she was concerned
that the Planning and Zoning Board rezoned the property so soon after the
subdivision was laid out and that they didn't go in and study the subdivisions
and somehow exempt them, such as calling it R-4B Existing, and that they will
not be considered nonconforming. She stated that it must be tragic to
develop a whole subdivision and then be told before you put in the last
house that the whole thing is nonconforming. Mr. Roush seconded the motion
to approve the variance. Mr. Newell asked if the building is going 8 feet
back from the existing building and was advised it is. Mr. Garthwaite asked
if the distance was mentiDned in the motion. Mr. Garthwaite said that it
should be 13 feet, since the setback has been changed. Mr. Newell argued
that that would then leave only 9 feet. After further discussion, it was
agreed to leave it at an 8 foot variance. Mr. Coleman explained that the
addition will be 8 by 15 feet. The motion to grant the variance was approved
7-0.
Coleman Construction Co., Inc. - Variance of 8 feet to the rear setback
requirement to construct a 10' x 12' glass room at 419 Shangri La Circle.
Mr. Wheeler, owner of the property, was present to talk to the Board members.
He advised the members that there is presently 22 feet between the existing
dwelling and the property line. The members felt that this case was very
similar to the variance just granted. The granting of this variance will
leave 12 feet from the addition to the property line. Mrs. Murphy said she
is not sure why the City changed the setback requirement. She had no objec-
tion to the variance. Mr. Savini motioned to approve the request and Mr.
Moran seconded the motion, which CARRIED 7-0.
said
Mrs. Murphy/the reason she is feeling a; little easy about approving these
variances is because of Mr. Alvarez~ letter.
NEW BUSINESS
Henry C. and Nancy Sloan - Variance request of 11 feet to construct a 2-car
garage on a corner lot at 428 N. Riverside Drive.
Verification of advertising and posting of the property was made ~.: ---
Mr. and Mrs. Sloan were present to present their case.
Attorney David L. Shannon was present representing the abutting property
owner, Mrs. Evangeline Dunn, whose property is affected by this application
for a variance. Her residence is on yelka Terrace adjoining the subject
property. He explained that Mrs. Dunn is elderly and has recently fallen
and broken her hip and is unable to be at the meeting. He was retained
the past Friday to represent her interests and asked that the Board defer
consideration of the application until he is able to prepare his case. He
would, he informed the Board, like to get property evaluations and to get
Mrs. Dunn's testimony before the Board.
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Mr. Garthwaite noted that Mr. and Mrs. Sloan have followed proper procedure
and, though he had no objection to a postponement, he felt Mr. and Mrs. Sloan
should be consulted as to whether they objected to a postponement. No member
of the Board objected to the postponement of the case. Mr. Sloan said that
in all fairness to Mrs. Dunn he was agreeable to waiting until she could present
her case to the Board, commenting that she is a wonderful neighbor. Mr. Newell
motioned that the hearing on this request be TABLED until the next regular
meeting of the Board on November 8. Mr. Newell also commented that the
drawings submitted with the application were very difficult to understand,
and asked that better drawings be submitted. Mrs. Martin seconded the
motion, which CARRIED 7-0. Mrs. Murphy noted that the word "setback" shown
on the drawing is really the "lot line". Mr. Garthwaite advised that the
right of way on Ye1ka Terrace is 40 feet and the paved road is 18 feet.
Dan and Cheryl Harper - Request for an 11' variance to the front yard setback
and a 5' variance to the side yard setback to construct a garage at the corner
of Kumquat Drive and 19th Street.
The question of whether or not tpe posting of the property was done in accor-
dance with the Code was raised. Mr. Harper explained that he had posted the
sign about ten days before the hearing, but apparently his children had pulled
the sign up. This was called to his attention by two of the Board members
who came to view the property, after which he again put up the sign.
Mr. Harper was sworn in by the chairman and testified that the sign was proper-
ly posted as required by law. There was verification that the hearing was
properly advertised and abutting property owners were notified.
Mrs. Murphy noted that when Florida Shores was laid out Mr. Magnuson would not
sell anybody less than three corner lots; this would contribute to the spacious-
ness of Florida Shores. Because some people bought four lots, the City realized
that they had two lots at some locations, and this began to change the look of
Florida Shores.
Mr. Harper said that all the neighbors called him once he put the sign up and
were not opposed to his plans.
Mrs. Murphy asked if he could build on the left side of the house and connect
a porch with it so they could stay out of the rain. She said she noticed there
is a pump there. and didn't know if it could be done. She felt it would be
better for the overall picture if the garage is on the left hand side.
Mr. Harper said the reason is because of the access into the house. There are
just two bedrooms on that side. He said that to put in a porch as suggested
would entail another variance. Mr. Harper said that he had a 12 foot right
of way on the left side already; there is a ditch and a telephone pole. There
is heavy equipment brought in there and he fears for the children to be over
there.
Mr. Newell pointed out an error in the figures on the drawing - the garage
will actually come to within 19 feet of the property line instead of 21 feet.
Mr. Harper agreed he had made an error in his figures.
Mr. Harper explained that he enclosed the garage when he added the room to
the back.
Mr. Savini commented that adding the garage will greatly improve the appearance
of the house because at this time there is just a blank wall facing Kumquat
Drive. Mr. Garthwaite asked if there was any reason the garage could not be
moved back five feet from 19th Street and Mr. Harper said there was no reason
but it was designed that way for appearances, and because this way he would not
need to put another door through the side of the house - they could get out of
the car and walk along the side of the house underneath the overhang.
Mrs. Murphy said that she is very sympathic but the lot is substandard and
they keep adding and adding by enclosing the garage and adding a room. She
asked if he had over 30 percent coverage. Mr. Harper said he had 1900 square
feet inside the house. The reason for the expansion is that he will have to
put a big shed on there for the children's toys and bikes, and he would like
not to do this. The addition will be 336 square feet. Mr. Harper asked if
Mrs. Murphy was concerned about the cars coming by and not being able to see
the other direction. She explained that Florida Shores was supposed to be
laid out as a spacious community and the architech said that nobody could buy
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less than three corner lots. Then when Ordinance 880 came along everything
got mixed up. They let them build on the two lots, but said that they must
be within the setbacks. Mr. Harper said that the problem is that he can only
go one direction, to the left side, without a variance, and this is a dan-
gerous side because of the utility'rig~t of way and canal there. The Florida
Power and Light Company trucks are in there all the time and also, the City
dropped a culvert in there and didn't put a drain in to get rid of the water
and it backs up. He stated that the City and the Florida Power and Light
Company are using more than what the right of way is allowed now. They are
coming more like 20 feet in, and are taking part of his yard. Mrs. Murphy
asked how wide a garage he could build on that side of the house without
a variance and he replied possibly 12 feet; he has 30 feet but 12 feet is
for the right of way. Mr. Garthwaite said that the setback is 10 feet
if you call that the side.
Mr. Garthwaite reviewed the request - Mr. Harper is asking for an 11 foot
variance request to the east and a 5 foot variance to the south to construct
a 14' by 24' garage.
Mrs. Murphy asked if everyone on Kumquat Drive wanted to bring their house
forward and only have 19 feet, would the Board be changing the setback on
Kumquat Drive. Mr. Garthwaite said that they would not be changing the
ordinance but only granting a variance to it. Mrs. Murphy was concerned
if someone else came in with the same request, they would not have anything
to support their reasons.
Mr. Savini remarked that in his opinion this is a unique setup because this
house should have been built to 20th Street.
The members reviewed the criteria for granting a variance. It was generally
agreed that special circumstances do exist. Item (b) was discus~ed at.:length
and there was not full agreementnthat the applicant ,met this criteria. The
members were not in agreement that item (c) was met. Regarding item (d),
Mrs. Murphy noted again that the ordinance was supposed to have a 30 foot
setback on all corners and she felt that the granting of the variance may
impair the purposes and intent of this ordinance. There was also a difference
of opinion as to whether or not the applicant met criteria (e).
Mr. Garthwaite said that each case should be looked at differently and not
judged on a past case. Mr. Garthwaite said that as they go though the criteria
they have said basicly that he complies with four of them. He said that
the Board has said that The special circumstance and conditions do result
from the actions of the applicant. He has enclosed in his garage; now he
wants to build another one. He felt he could get around the problem if he
goes to the other side of his house. Mr. Savini pointed out that he has
somewhat of a hardship because he will have to walk all the way around his
house from the garage to the door of the house.
Mrs. Martin said that she does not feel it will be an eyesore to the neighbor-
hood and it is a much need request. Mrs. Martin motioned that the Board approve
the request for the variances. Mr. Savini seconded the motion. The motion
to grant the variance FAILED 4-3. Mrs. Murphy said that she would like to
vote for the variance and is sympathetic, but cannot vote yes. Mr. Newell
voted no because the addition wouLd be too close to the front line. Mr.
Roush voted no for the same reason. Mr. Garthwaite voted no for the same
reasons.
Mr. Harper said that he had called the City about putting in a solid fence
up on that side and was told by the girl in the building office that you
could put a solid fence up as long as it is 50 feet from the center of the
fulcrum of the road. The fence ordinance was discussed at length. Mr.
Harper felt that if he could put up a fence, he should be permitted to
put up the garage, as it would not impair vision any more than ,the fence
would do.
Mr. Garthwaite advised Mr. Harper that he would receive a letter advising
the reasons for the denying of his request.
Mrs. Murphy motioned that the meeting be adjourned. The meeting was
adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Joan Taylor
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