03-16-2009 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 16, 2009
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:03
p.m. in the Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas
Councilwoman Debra Rogers
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilman Ted Cooper
City Manager Tracey Barlow
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel
City Attorney Aaron Wolfe
Present
Present
Excused
Excused
Present
Present
Present
Present
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting of January 5, 2009
Councilman Cooper moved to approve the January 5, 2009
minutes, second by Councilwoman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
B. Regular Meeting of January 26, 2009
City Clerk Wenzel pointed out that she had received an e-
mail from City Attorney Ansay regarding a couple of type-
o's she wanted to bring up. On Page 26, the third
paragraph down, the last sentence, it should state usury
fees instead of user fees. The other things she brought up
turned out to be correct once she listened to the tape.
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Councilwoman Rogers referred to Page 30, towards the
bottom, underneath where it said the motion carried 4-1 and
Councilwoman Rogers voted no. There was a comment
underneath it that was quoted of something she had said.
Her feeling is if that comment is going to be there the
comment that was made to her should also be in there
because she responded to a comment. It says she said she
would see them at 7:00 p.m. That was after Mayor Thomas
said she could come at 7:00 p.m. If one comment is going
to be printed the other comment should be printed. Mayor
Thomas confirmed he did say that.
Councilwoman Rogers stated above where it said Councilwoman
Bennington moved to change the meeting time, where it says
some audience members wanted to keep it at 7:00 p.m. As
she recalled everyone in the audience. There was not one
person in that audience that said to have it changed.
Mayor Thomas asked if they had a number of how many were in
the audience and he pointed out there were very few.
Councilwoman Rogers stated there were very few but most of
the people were sitting here and they all said 7:00 p.m.
If they go back to the CD, that is what they will hear.
She felt it shouldn't say some. She felt the majority
would be more accurate.
Councilwoman Rogers wanted to know if the minutes were
verbatim or paraphrased. City Clerk Wenzel stated they are
mostly verbatim. As she was going back and looking, not
100%. Councilwoman Rogers felt they seemed like they were
in third person.
Councilwoman Rogers stated she could pick on everything she
said after that but she would let it be. Mayor Thomas
stated there is a lot that he says that doesn't read
exactly as he thinks he said it. Councilwoman Rogers
stated she went back and listened to the CD. Mayor Thomas
was referring to all of the meetings, when he reads the
minutes.
Councilwoman Rogers stated the only thing she is concerned
about is since in Florida this is the Sunshine Law there
was some discussion that went on that evening and there
were comments made by Mayor Thomas and she was curious and
perhaps they should talk another time, there were comments
he made that he knew something more about an investigation
that went on.
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Mayor Thomas stated they were talking about the minutes.
Councilwoman Rogers stated it is in the minutes. That is
why they need to address it. He said it on the public
record that he knew something and if he knew something she
didn't she would think that maybe there is Sunshine there
she doesn't know. She doesn't know how he would know
something more than she knew about something that directly
related to herself. She was saying this so it was on the
public record. If they want to approve the minutes like it
is she wasn't going to sit there and argue about it.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve the January 26, 2009
minutes with the corrections as stated, second by
Counci~woman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DON
ATIONS
A. Randell Brown, Regional Director, Department of
IFinance Services, discussing a new program called
"Safeguarding our Seniors", recently initiated by
Chief Finance Officer for the State of Florida,
Alex Sink
Randell Brown, Regional Director, Department of Financial
Services, 135 Executive Circle, Daytona Beach, representing
Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink, listed some of her
responsibilities. He then commented on the "Safeguarding
our Seniors" program that was created due to the number of
complaints from senior citizens quadrupling in the last
three years because of unscrupulous insurance agents. He
spoke of Alex Sink's main focus now being on annuities.
Mr. Brown then commented on new Legislation that took
effect on January 1st of this year. It is now a third
degree felony to submit a fraudulent signature. Ms. Sink
prohibits agents from using fake designations. She wants
it to be a felony to intentionally deceive. Last year they
did over 2,000 educational opportunities to educate people
on buying annuities and how to handle an unscrupulous
agent.
Mr. Brown offered to come to Edgewater if they have any
need for that type of educational opportunity.
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Mr. Brown stated another rule that has passed as of January
1st of this year is the insurance companies and the agent
have to fill out forms to make sure the vehicle is being
suitable for the person buying it and it has to be accepted
by the company. If it isn't, Ms. Sink is pushing to make
that a felony.
Mr. Brown provided their contact information and left some
brochures, which also included the contact information.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, commented on the
Restoration project. Since February 2nd, when it was
approved by majority vote with four people in attendance on
Council, 3 to 1, since then they have 45 days in which to
object to anything in the Restoration project. DCA had 9
objections. He asked if all of the objections were
approved and/or were there any objections from anybody else
and if there were he knew it would take more than 3
minutes, the ridiculous rule the Council has, to answer
these questions.
City Manager Barlow explained the comprehensive plan
amendment is in Tallahassee with DCA. There are still
ongoing meetings with DCA and Charles Stansbury, which he
believed was third down on the food chain. DCA was in town
two weeks ago and had a meeting with himself and Darren
Lear and they toured the town and talked about that. He
will be in Tallahassee on Thursday with DCA to further talk
about those objections, recommendations and comments they
have.
Mr. Capria asked if the 45 days would be up and there would
be no more objections. City Manager Barlow wasn't sure
which 45-day time period he was talking about. Mr. Capria
stated when they voted on it, 45 days from that period in
time. City Manager Barlow stated that is the period they
can accept additional comments and recommendations. That
is the window to submit those.
Mr. Capria asked if there had been any objections so far.
City Manager Barlow informed him other agencies submit
comments to DCA. He asked Mr. Capria to contact Mr. Lear
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for the other agencies that have submitted comments because
he didn't have the information in front of him. City
Manager Barlow informed him DCA would have the list as
well. Mr. Capria felt City Manager Barlow should have that
list too as well as the City Council.
City Clerk Wenzel further explained typically with a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment that 45-day time frame where
someone can send in their objections, typically the City
would not receive the objections until the 45 days are up
and DCA would compile them and send them to the City after
the 45 day time period.
City Manager Barlow stated after they collect all the
objections, comments and recommendations, also known as the
ORC report, they bundle those up and they will do a summary
report and send those and part of that is the discussions
and the negotiations with DCA.
Bill Glaser, 1703 Needle Palm Drive, mentioned the
discussion about making Park Avenue a permanent three way
stop. He was taken aback. He was speechless because over
the past 30 years he can remember numerous people coming to
the City requesting stop signs on their streets because of
traffic, speeding, etc. The answer always was they
couldn't do that because they didn't want to impede the
flow of traffic. He was amazed that with so little
discussion, badaboom they had a three way stop sign. Their
little old three block long street, they have roughly 200
cars a day through traffic on Needle Palm Drive. They have
15 to 20 City trucks a day on the street because for some
reason they treat their street as a City truck route and
then they have all the other folks that apparently went to
government schools and never learned to read and understand
the English language that the sign that says no trucks over
I-ton doesn't mean them so they will use the street as a
cut through. In reading the Florida Statutes there is a
list of about 23 items that says what the City can do as a
municipality to control traffic. The State gives them that
responsibility and that authority to do this. Among those
responsibilities and authorities is to designate any street
as a through street or designating any intersection as a
stop or yield intersection. He asked if they brought down
their 20 year old petition where they were asking for a
stop sign on their street, would it be addressed again by
the City Council and they might get some answer other than
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they can't do that because they don't want to impede the
flow of traffic.
Mayor Thomas stated he sat on Needle Palm Drive for two two
hour periods and he counted more truck traffic on his
street than he did on Mr. Glaser's street. Mr. Glaser
suggested to Mayor Thomas that the next time he wants to
sit there he would like to sit with him and they can count
together and then they will go over and count on his
street.
Councilman Cooper told Mr. Glaser he had the right to bring
his petition forward and ask the Council to vote one way or
the other at any time.
5. APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
There were no changes or modifications to be made to the
agenda at this time.
City Manager Barlow informed Council this was the new item.
If they wanted to bring anything off of the Consent Agenda
into Other Business to vote on it independently this is
where they would do it otherwise they would do one vote on
the Consent Agenda as a whole. This is where they would
move an agenda item if they needed to. If nobody wanted to
move an agenda item they could move on to the next item.
6. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Rogers commented on an e-mail she believed all
of them had received from Cecil Seacrest. She asked City
Manager Barlow if an Oak Trail sign, it says it is up. She
asked if everything was done and corrected. City Manager
Barlow didn't know that he had received that e-mail.
Councilwoman Rogers was concerned because she felt it
seemed to take a long time for this. They have been
calling and asking. City Manager Barlow stated this was
the first he had heard about it. Councilwoman Rogers would
like to have a procedure in place so that people don't have
to e-mail them and call them. Something so the citizens
could have a quicker response.
City Manager Barlow informed the Council if they didn't
have a problem with City Clerk Wenzel forwarding those
operation e-mails to him he could address it.
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Interim Environmental Services Director Brenda Dewees
pointed out the problem with the Oak Trail sign being that
Oak Trail is considered a private road.
Councilwoman Rogers stated when citizens start e-mailing
Council it is telling her they aren't happy with something
and she is just trying to say let's do something quicker.
In this case with it being a private road she could see it
would take a little longer.
City Clerk Wenzel stated typically what she does if she
gets an e-mail to Council from a citizen she will not only
make sure they get it but will also forward it to the
correct department to try and get it taken care of. She
then commented on the confusion with whether or not the
sign was really there due to e-mails being sent from Mr.
Seacrest's computer when it wasn't turned on.
Councilman Cooper stated he got the call two and it was
about two weeks ago and the sign was up. Councilwoman
Rogers felt it was best that they knew they were responding
quickly. Mayor Thomas commented on notes he has on his
mail that says who it has been forwarded to.
Mayor Thomas reported that they visited Councilwoman
Bennington, who is in the hospital, on Friday. They found
some bacterial infection in her knee and were treating her
for that. They had her on an I-V antibiotic and they have
a machine that was moving her leg automatically. She was
in pretty good spirits but didn't want to be there.
Councilman Cooper reported that a majority of his
committees meet at the later part of the month. He put a
challenge out. The Southeast Volusia County little league
has lost their main sponsor. They are in a little bit of a
bind as far as raising the funds to continue with new
equipment and uniforms. They have a banner program. They
are trying to collect $250 to purchase banners to line the
fields to recap the $5,000 they lost. He challenged
Council to put in $50 a piece to buy their own banner.
Mayor Thomas stated he gave them $250 for a sponsor.
Councilman Cooper stated if they City could do it they
would like that too.
Mayor Thomas reported that he attended the Smart Growth
meeting today. They are working very rapidly on a set of
guidelines. He gave City Manager Barlow the draft. They
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are going to finalize that. It will come to Council in the
form of a resolution that they will have to approve. They
have already adopted the ECHO map. This is the rules and
guidelines of what they can and won't do.
Mayor Thomas stated that he has been going out to the
Little League ballpark. It is the most fantastic looking
fields he has ever seen. His congratulations to the crew
that is taking care of those fields. He tries to talk to
the City employees. He talks to them all the time and he
tries to talk to the ones he doesn't know. He commented on
speaking to an employee that picks up the sticks with a
pitchfork and he asked him how morale was and he informed
him things were a lot better now that Mr. Barlow is there.
He talked to one this weekend and his morale was good. He
had a City employee come by the house last weekend and brag
on Personnel Director Looney and Julie Christine-Clinton.
Feeling out the City employees, he thinks the morale is
really up and he is really proud of that.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Authorization for East Volusia Mosquito Control
District to make low level aerial inspection and
spray flights
B. Request to approve disposal of Fixed Assets
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation regarding
Items A & B on the Consent Agenda.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilwoman Rogers moved to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
There were no Public Hearings, Ordinances or Resolutions to
be discussed at this time.
9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
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A. Economic Development Board - Councilwoman Rhodes'
appointment due to the expired term of Robert
Williams, who seeks reappointment
This item was tabled until the next meeting due to
Councilwoman Rhodes not being present.
B. Economic Development Board - Councilman Cooper's
appointment due to the resignation of Robert
Overton
Councilman Cooper nominated Bliss Jamison.
Councilwoman Rogers moved to approve Councilman Cooper's
nomination of Bliss Jamison being appointed to the Economic
Development Board.
Mayor Thomas asked Assistant City Attorney Wolfe if he
could second the motion since there was. Councilwoman
Rogers stated since they didn't have enough people there.
Assistant City Attorney Wolfe informed him yes.
Mayor Thomas seconded the motion.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
10. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Award Bid Proposal for Replacement of the Fuel
System at the Environmental Services Public Works
facility
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked if they have a choice. City Manager
Barlow informed him they did not.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to award the bid proposal
to Southeastern General Contracts, Inc. in the amounts as
specified in the proposal and to authorize the mayor to
execute the Agreement for Services, second by Councilwoman
Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -0.
B. Interlocal Agreement between the City of
Edgewater and the City of New Smyrna Beach to
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accept solid waste from New Smyrna Beach's City
Parks
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to approve the agreement
with the City of New Smyrna Beach for the acceptance of
solid waste and authorize the City Manager to execute the
agreement, second by Councilwoman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
11. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel reminded everyone of the grand opening of
the Animal Shelter on March 28th. There were flyers
available on the back table of the Council Chambers.
City Clerk Wenzel stated Wednesday from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00
p.m. they have scheduled the Southeast Volusia Summit at
Daytona State College. She wanted to find out if everyone
would be there. Councilman Cooper and Mayor Thomas
confirmed they would be there. Councilwoman Rogers would
not be there.
City Clerk Wenzel also needed to know if any of the Council
would be attending the Ethics for Elected Officials or
Public Servants seminar on March 31st. Mayor Thomas,
Councilman Cooper and Councilwoman Rogers would not be
attending that one.
B. City Attorney
1) Settlement of Ayubo v. City of Edgewater,
et al
Assistant City Attorney Wolfe commented on the lawsuit that
was filed against the City by a former employee, Ariel
Ayubo. He sued the City and three former employees of the
City. The nature of the claim is a suit for racial
discrimination. The plaintiff is Asian/American and he
claims he was discriminated against based upon his race.
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Their investigation has not shown any evidence that any of
that occurred. Nevertheless the insurance carrier for the
City asked them to try to negotiate an early resolution to
the lawsuit. The insurance carrier is looking at the cost
of defense of the case and doing a cost benefit analysis
determined it would make sense to try to settle the case at
an early stage of the proceedings. Based upon that they
entered negotiations with the plaintiff and they have
successfully negotiated a settlement amount of $12,500
subject to approval by the City Council. As part of the
settlement there will be no admission of any wrongdoing or
liability by the City or the other three individuals that
have been sued. The plaintiff will provide a general
release to all of the defendants and will dismiss the case
with prejudice, meaning they can never bring the case
again. Today they are asking for approval of the
settlement amount of $12,500.
Councilman Cooper asked if there was a deductible owed by
the City. Assistant City Attorney Wolfe stated there is a
deductible under the policy but it has already been paid.
Mayor Thomas asked what Mr. Ayubo's position was.
Assistant City Attorney Wolfe informed him he was a Water
Plant Trainee who was on probation.
Councilman Cooper asked how much the deductible was that
was already paid. Assistant City Attorney Wolfe believed
it was $5,000 and was paid through the initial legal bills
to defend the case.
Mayor Thomas has a bad feeling about doing that with no
evidence. Even though it isn't going to cost the City
anything. He doesn't like it.
Councilman Cooper stated it already cost them $5,000. He
asked Assistant City Attorney Wolfe if the $12,000 would be
the insurance carrier's responsibility. Assistant City
Attorney Wolfe informed him the carrier would pay the
$12,500.
Councilwoman Rogers stated but he is saying in his
preliminary investigation that there is no evidence to
substantiate what they are claming. Assistant City
Attorney Wolfe stated that was right however, it is early
in the litigation. They did send Discovery to the
plaintiff written questions and documents and requests but
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then they entered into the settlement negotiations so they
don't have any Discovery responses from the plaintiff and
haven't had the opportunity to depose any witnesses yet in
the case. It is very early on in the proceedings. That is
what the insurance carrier was thinking. They keep
spending more and more on the defense that it can get
harder to settle a case after some protractive litigation.
Mayor Thomas asked Assistant City Attorney Wolfe with his
legal expertise what he would suggest. Assistant City
Attorney Wolfe informed him he would recommend they settle
for the $12,500 amount with no admission of any wrongdoing
or liability.
Councilman Cooper asked about the clause without prejudice.
Assistant City Attorney Wolfe stated they would dismiss the
case with prejudice, which means it can never be brought
again.
Councilman Cooper asked Assistant City Attorney Wolfe if he
would recommend that he felt it would change drastically if
they said to him maybe he needed to further the
investigation and see if the $12,500 could be negotiated
for less or even wiped out completely. Assistant City
Attorney Wolfe stated they started the negotiations at a
lesser amount. This is ultimately what they arrived at.
It's difficult to say what would happen later in the
litigation.
Mayor Thomas pointed out they were missing two
Councilmembers. He asked if they should table it until
they get back and get their feelings on it too. He asked
if it would hinder Assistant City Attorney Wolfe. He
informed Mayor Thomas he had put the plaintiff's attorney
on notice that this would be an agenda item at this
meeting. All of the offers and discussions were subject to
approval by the City Council. He commented on the consent
to settle clause included in the policy. The carrier has
not raised this at this point but what that clause provides
is that if the insurance carrier is able to settle a case
for a certain amount and the City refuses to do that then
the City can be liable or on the hook for an ultimate
judgment that is greater than that amount. Mayor Thomas
stated and then it would be up to them.
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Mayor Thomas stated that he doesn't like it but that is
what they are paying him for. He has recommended that. He
then entertained a motion.
Councilman Cooper made a motion that they accept the
insurance company and attorney's advice on making this
settlement.
Councilwoman Rogers stated and she would add to that before
she seconded if she could so they are amending the motion
that they are only going to accept it due to the fact that
they do have a consent to settle clause in the insurance
policy so they are on the hook because if they don't do it
the City could be liable for even higher dollars.
Mayor Thomas asked for roll call.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 - 0 .
C. City Manager
City Manager Barlow had a few items he needed Council's
assistance on. He informed Council he needed direction
from Council regarding employment agreements. Back at the
Special Meeting on January 17, 2008 a motion was made to
honor the existing contracts but have no further contracts
except for Charter Officers to include the City Manager,
City Attorney and City Clerk. Currently out of the three
interim directors they have now, they have two that have
existing contracts. He needed simple direction from the
Council if he entertained the idea into negotiating them
into a director's position whether to amend their existing
contract or if Council is hard steadfast on no additional
contracts. Essentially if he considers these two
employees, does he amend the contracts or is it a no deal
going into a director's position.
Councilman Cooper felt the position of the Council back in
January made it pretty specific for no new contracts. They
are very similarly written and they all have the golden
parachute clause in there that he will vote against over
and over again. It is not about the employees at all but
the City cannot afford these huge, golden parachutes.
Councilwoman Rogers agreed with that based upon the status
of the economy in the United States and of course with all
of their local governments. They cannot continue to do
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this. They cannot continue to spend the citizens' money in
the future so they have to start doing something now so she
says no more contracts. City Manager Barlow stated that is
the majority or the consensus. For these two positions,
both of them are in Deputy roles if you will, Assistant
Directors, that if they aren't interested in giving up
their contract they remain in those positions and then they
hire in directors above them if they want to keep their
contracts. Their contracts are existing and honored as a
Deputy Director.
Councilman Cooper stated the contracts that they already
have. They are Interim Directors and City Manager Barlow
wants to expand the contract into the similar contracts of
previous directors. City Manager Barlow stated if he
elects to bring them in as directors and they don't want to
give up their existing contracts. Councilman Cooper stated
he wouldn't either. They all have the golden parachute
clause in them. The Council was pretty adamant in January
to do away with the contracts. City Manager Barlow stated
and that gives him direction. Now he can move forward into
filling those positions and they know.
City Manager Barlow stated a while back they had some
discussion at Council on a couple of topics as it relates
to some ordinance amendments. He wanted to get further
direction from Council and he can fine-tune them from
there.
City Manager Barlow stated the first one was Section 10-41,
Littering of Public Property and Waterways. There was some
discussion back then and he was requested to try to work on
some language changes. The concern was all the free
circulations or free newspapers that pile up in driveways
of vacant homes. Essentially this is what this would
address. He then read what the additional language would
be. It doesn't prohibit to circulate those free or
subscribed circulations. It only prohibits them to be
placed on known or perceived vacant property. This is just
rough draft language and hasn't gone through the Attorney
to be legalized yet or for their comments. He would need
some direction. They don't have to get deep into it
tonight. They could give it some thought and give him some
independent comments he can continue to work that
direction.
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City Manager Barlow reported that they are looking at
transitioning into what they call an International Property
Maintenance Code, which was recently adopted by the City of
Sanford. That will be coming back in the near future.
City Manager Barlow stated the next ordinance was related
to activities prohibited in parks and this is regarding
animals in parks. Down the road one of the goals is
Council wants to open up a dog park or animal park. They
are looking at a piece of property at the Mango Lake. They
will need to adjust the ordinance to address that. Along
with that this ordinance is written in such a way that
Council could determine essentially by resolution, which
parks throughout the entire City the Council wants to
permit animals to. That is another draft ordinance they
are working on as well.
Councilwoman Rogers asked if they could start talking
tonight about the parks to be added. She then mentioned
Kennedy Park and Menard May Park. One of the reasons is
people are already doing it. She then commented on Manatee
Park in New Smyrna Beach. They have the garbage can
receptacles in certain places and they have the doggie bag
containers right there so it would help induce people to
pick up after their animals because they are doing it
anyways. Let's do something so people will start to be
conscientious to pick up after their animals because it is
happening. She knows what is going on with her property
that is adjacent to the park. People do it and she sees it
but it is like what is she going to do. Let's give them
something so they can become responsible.
City Manager Barlow stated if this is something a majority
of the Council is interested in he could work with Jack
Corder and the Recreation/Cultural Services Board. He
suggested they consider an area within a park so they don't
have dogs in with the playground equipment and talk about
different areas where it may be permitted.
Councilman Cooper asked if they had a report from Jack's
department on their feelings on this. City Manager Barlow
stated this is just a real rough draft. He asked Council
to think about it and chew on it. He would run it through
legal and bring it back to Council as an ordinance change.
If they get there with the ordinance change on the second
reading on the ordinance change and then they present a
resolution and the Recreation/Cultural Services Board will
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have an opportunity to present a list of all the parks and
then they can pick and go for the resolution on the second
ordinance reading that identifies those parks.
City Manager Barlow stated they don't have a whole lot of
agenda items going forward. If Council wanted to they
could look at tentatively suspending one meeting a month,
at least through September, and then utilize those other
meetings when it gets closer to budget time that they could
do the budget workshops and he could start to compress
everything on to one agenda.
Councilman Cooper agreed with that and felt the budget was
going to be tough this year. City Manager Barlow suggested
they have the meeting on the third Monday of the month and
then tentatively they will schedule and City Clerk Wenzel
can post that the meeting was cancelled due to lack of
agenda items for each one of those meetings. If something
comes up and they have to have a meeting they will do that
and properly advertise.
It was the consensus of Council to hold one meeting a month
on the third Monday of the month.
City Manager Barlow commented on the 4th of July. With the
tough economic times and the concern of using government
dollars towards the fireworks show and even the association
was co-sponsoring there and having a tough time getting
advertisements. They are trying some different approaches
on the 4th of July. They are trying to still have the show
but he is concerned because the funds aren't there. The
last time it was sponsored by major boat manufacturers that
have furloughed and laid people off so he didn't think they
could expect them to. They had a meeting with NSB to
brainstorm ideas in Southeast Volusia. That pretty much
landed to the offer to shoot the fireworks off at their
municipal stadium but really nothing on the finance side.
They weren't hurting for a location. He didn't know that
he was crazy with the idea of the stadium whereas a lot of
the attendants come by boat and it is hard to get a boat to
the municipal stadium.
Councilwoman Rogers suggested they combine efforts with the
City of New Smyrna Beach. She pointed out they are done
within a week apart. City Manager Barlow stated they are
willing as long as Edgewater funds it. They are in the
same situation. Councilwoman Rogers stated they aren't
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willing to go 50/50 and then that helps their burden and
Edgewater's burden. City Manager Barlow didn't think they
had the 50 and Edgewater doesn't have the 50.
Councilman Cooper pointed out New Smyrna didn't do their
fireworks last year.
Councilman Cooper asked what the cost was. City Manager
Barlow informed him it was about $12,000. They are trying
some different ideas and they have a committee that is
working on it. Last time they talked possibly about having
a beer garden. If they do that again this year then maybe
they could tap into a major beer distributor with helping
offset that cost. They are trying to be creative and think
outside the box. In tough economic times, it is tough.
There was a brief discussion regarding fundraisers.
City Manager Barlow asked Council if they would still be
okay with the permission of doing a beer garden if they get
a major beer sponsor to do that. They can do that in an
effort to try to salvage the show.
Councilman Cooper stated he didn't think the citizens
wanted to see the fireworks stop. Anything that would
help.
Mayor Thomas asked if the boat ramp was on schedule.
Leisure Services Director Corder stated he has not been
told anything different and it is still on schedule.
Mayor Thomas commented on the magazines he gets and there
being three or four pages of the new type ballfields laid
out. It looked just like Edgewater's. He is really proud
of our ballfields.
Mayor Thomas asked how many were going to Frank Bruno's
State of the County Address luncheon on Monday.
City Manager Barlow listed the staff that would be
attending.
12. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
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Dominic Capri a , 606 Topside Circle, stated the meetings
seen to go on up at the dais and not out in the audience.
They talk to each other. It is hard to hear what is going
on. They keep talking to each other. This has come up
time and time again. Maybe they need something better as
far as speakers. Maybe the stimulus package they are going
to get $26,000 from, let's use it to improve so they can
hear in the audience.
Mr. Capria suggested they ask the developer from
Restoration for the money for the fireworks.
Mayor Thomas informed Mr. Capria this is a business meeting
held by the citizens' elected representatives held in the
public in the Sunshine. They are supposed to talk amongst
themselves. On every item he asks for public participation
and he doesn't have to do that. Just on resolutions and
stuff. They try to make it where they hear from the
citizens. This is a business meeting held in the public.
Mike Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, stated his neighbor,
Dr. Bais, yesterday his three smoke alarms inside his house
went off simultaneously. Right away he called the Fire
Department. He wanted to thank the Fire Department for
being there in less than five minutes. They told them to
get out of the house because there might be some gas or
something in there. He told him to thank the Fire
Department. They did a great job to come right away.
Mr. Visconti had something that was new that he wanted to
give to City Manager Barlow called photo Alert and it has
to do with missing children. City Manager Barlow thought
it would probably be in the Police Department. It costs
$10 a year for parents who want to put their children in
the system. They can pick it up on the Internet and learn
more about it. He presented the information to City
Manager Barlow.
Mayor Thomas thanked everyone for coming and entertained a
motion to adjourn.
Councilman Cooper asked for follow up comments.
Councilman Cooper reminded everyone
opening day for the Little League.
please try to attend. It starts at
that this Saturday was
He asked everyone to
9:00 a.m.
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Councilman Cooper stated on the issue on the contracts. If
you work on negotiation aspects to get rid of the golden
parachutes, he believes those contracts can go forward.
But really address the golden parachute.
13. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman
Rogers moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 7:06
p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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Ordinance Amendment Suwiestion
At the request of Councilwoman Rogers
Sec. 12.5-1. Activities prohibited in parks; enforcement.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person in a city park in the incorporated areas of the city to:
(1) Bring any animal, including cats, dogs, horses, any fowl or birds and any living creatures
within the jurisdiction of a city park or recreation area, which is appropriately posted
prohibiting such animals.
(2) To allow any dog or cat to be unattended or off its leash and under actual control of a
responsible person within designated parks permitting cats and dogs.
(3) To allow such animal to defecate in any designated park permitting dogs and cats
without immediately removing and disposing of all feces deposited by such animal by the
following methods:
(a) Collection of the feces by appropriate implement and placement in a container,
(b) Removal of such container from the park and/or disposition in a manner consistent
with applicable laws.
(-2-)(4)Bring alcoholic beverages, or controlled dangerous substances, drink or use the same
at any time nor shall any person be under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled
dangerous substance in a city park or recreation area.
(--33(5) Bring any glass container into a city park or recreation area.
(4)(6)Expose or offer for sale any article in any city park or recreation area without a license
as a concessionaire or to display any advertising signs or other advertising matter without a
permit.
(-5)cn Camp or stay overnight in a city park or recreation area.
(§)(8)Build, kindle, maintain or use an open fire nor throw away or discard any lighted
match, cigar, cigarette, tobacco,paper or other material until it is extinguished.
(-7)(9) Perform the cleaning or scaling of fish or other aquatic creatures in a city park or
recreation area.
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Ordinance Amendment Sugiestion
At the request of Councilwoman Bennington
Sec. 10-41. Littering—Public property and waterways.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to dump, throw, place or cast, or cause to be
dumped, thrown, placed or cast any refuse, rubbish, litter, trash,junk, garbage, or
other unwholesome matter or substance of any kind whatsoever on any street,
avenue, road, highway, waterway or any public way or along the rights-of-way
thereof, including county, state and federal roads and highways, and waterways,
within the city, or in any public park, beach or other public grounds in the city.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, directly or through an agent or employee to
distribute or cause to be distributed, deposited, placed, thrown, cast, scattered,
handed out or circulated any handbill, commercial advertisement or newspaper not
subscribed on any unattended vehicle, known vacant property or property with the
appearance of vacancy or with the accumulation of greater than two (2) days of
such material.
(b) (c) It is to be expressly understood that the prohibitions set forth in subsection
(a) do not prohibit the orderly placing of refuse, litter, trash and garbage at
streetside for systematic collection by the city, but do specifically prohibit the
indiscriminate and disorderly casting of wastes on city streets.
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