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11-02-1983 ~ Q CITY OF EDGEWATER PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 2, 1983 M;bnu1i:es Vice-Chairman, Frank Opal, called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 P.M., in the Community Center. The Vice-Chairman advised the Board members that Steve Edgar, the County Forester, was unable to attend this meeting and would appear at the next Planning meeting. ROLL CALL Members present: Messrs. Opal, Finn, Chenoweth, Quaggin and Hillerich. Don Bennington was excused. Also present: Helen Lovell, Everett Wetzel, one member of the press, and secretary, Susan Mista. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Hillerich made a motion to approve the minutes~of the October 19, 1983, meeting. Mr. Quaggin seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. SITE PLAN REVIEWS SP-8334 - Helen & Bailey Lovell - Duplex Mrs. Lovell was present to discuss her plan. Vlice-Chairman Opal read over the comments made by the Department Head Supervisors. He questioned the property being zoned B3 and R4. Mrs. Lovell advised that Lot 19 was zoned R4 and Lot 20 - B3. She further advised that she had to go before the Board of Adjustments for a Special Exception to build the duplex in this zone. She is scheduled for that meeting on November 10, 1983. She stated that there was a small area on the site plan notated "t.c." which is the area that will be screened for trash collection. Vice-Chairman Opal asked Mrs. Lovell who owns the 15' of property not included in her plan. She advised thatcshe has to get a variance from the Board of Adjustments due to the fact that her lot is short of the requirements and she is asking for a 15' variance. She also stated that the owner of the triplex next to her lot owns the additional 15' that the Vice-Chairman questioned her about. Vice-Chairman Opal asked if the 15' went into Lot 18. Mrs. Lovell stated she owns 35' of Lot 19, the legal description states Lot 19 and 20 except the west 15' of Lot 19. In regards to compliance with th~ Tree Ordinance, Mr. Hillerich asked that Mrs. Lovell plant the trees in the back of the property 13' from the boundary line so that when they are grown, they will cover the pro- perty on which they were planted. She agreed to comply with his request. A discussion then ensued concerning the dimensional requirements for a duplex and ingress, egress and parking. He stated all site plans usually have a buffer across the front, except for ingress and egress. Part of the Code concerning this zone addresses buffers and in another section buffers are not mentioned. Mr. Hillerich questioned which section of the Code applied concerning this buffer situation. Concerning the parking requirements, it was determined that the carport counted as a parking space and she did not need the additional space shown on the site plan and she could put in the 5' buffer, taking out the parking space. A discussion then ensued regarding how far back B3 goes and whether or not the duplex will be constructed in both zones. It was determined that Lot 19 is in R4 zone and Lot 20 is in B3 zone. B3 is 250' back. o o Mr. Hillerich made a motion that final approval be given this site plan with the understanding that the two side parking spaces be eliminated and a 5' buffer placed in that area, the remainder of the property to be landscaped according to the Ordinance. Mr. Finn seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 4-1. Vice-Chairman Opal voted NO. SP-8335 - Larry J. Whittle - Change Warehouse to Apartments Jack DePrima appeared on behalf of Larry Whittle to discuss the plan. Vice-Chairman Opal read the comments from the Department Head Supervisors, wherein Earl Copeland stated there is only one 750 gallon septic tank and if 12 apartments were to be built, 12 750 gallon septic tanks would be required; the Chief of Police stated there is not enough room in the driveway area for emergency vehicle access; and the Building Official questioned whether or not the interior walls were fireproof. Mr. DePrima answered that they were not fireproof. He stated he did not build this structure, it was constructed in April, 1982. Mr. Hillerich stated there were several problems with this plan, (1) the Code requires a minimum living space of 750' and these cubicles only allow 540'; (2) when the plan was approved the first time, they showed concrete block walls separating the units. He further stated there is a serious problem concerning parking and the driveway area. The Code requires 10 x 20 per space, and a 10 x 20 reciprocal ~pace behind each space for pulling in and out. The problem is the north side - it is up against the ditch and he felt it would be difficult to meet the parking requirements with the small amount of space on the north side. Mr. DePrima stated they knew about the additional septic tanks that would be required and they intend to comply with what is needed. Mr. Hillerich stated if th~'meet the 750' requirement for living area, the units will be cut down to 9, with 14 parking spaces required - that being 1.5 parking spacffiper unit. He felt there would be still a problem on the north side of the building. The bathroom plans would also be interrupted, creating another problem. He suggested Mr. Whittle bring back a sketch plan, complying with all the requirements of the Code. He further stated he felt the original building was constructed not in compliance with the approved site plan. Mr. Hillerich made a motion to reject this plan, as it has been presented. Mr. Finn seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. SP-8336 - Coleman Construction Co. - Duplex Mr. Coleman was present to discuss his site plan. Mr. Hillerich asked Mr. Coleman to provide the secretary a notation as to which lots in the subdivision have already been approved and built. Mr. Coleman agreed to comply with his request. Mr. Hi1lerich stated that the Board would mark off the approved lots on the plat and update it each time another duplex is submitted for approval. He asked Mr. Coleman how many trees would be saved on the property, to which Mr. Cole- man replied, as many of the scrub oaks and pines that are allowable. Mr. Chenoweth questioned whether or not he has two parking spaces. Mr. Coleman advised that one of the spaces is the garage. Mr. Hillerich made a motion to approve this site plan, as submitted. Mr. Finn seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. Mr. Coleman asked the Board if there was any way he could avoid having to come before the Board so many times for approval of construction of the duplexes. Mr. Hillerich suggested that possibly he could bring in all of the site plans for the interior lots, which are all the same dimension, along with the appropriate plans for the building, and bring in all the corner lots which are the same size and the plans for those buildings, and have same approved at one time, rather than having to come~in with each single unit. -2- Planning Commission Meeting November 2, 1983 o o Mr. Hillerich asked the secretary to check with the City Attorney, Mr. Alvarez, to determine wheth~r or not Mr. Coleman can bring in his plans, as discussed, for approval at one time, and, if so, will he be required to pay $75.00 for each plan submitted. The secretary will advise Mr. Coleman of Mr. Alvarez's determination. MISCELLANEOUS Vice-Chairman Opal read a letter that was presented to the secretary today from Dan Nolan, a member of the Edgewater Business and Professional Association, requesting that they be put on the earliest agenda to discuss the newly adopted Tree Ordinance. Mr. Hillerich suggested that Mr. Nolan be advised that they will be having a workshop on this matter at the end of the month and they will be invited to the workshop. Vice-Chairman Opal began a discussion concerning the construction of single family dwellings in Pelican Cove West subdivision, wherein this is zoned for duplexes and it concerns six lots in Block D, Phase I. Mr. Hillerich stated that single family dwellings are permitted in R4, accor- ding to the Code requirements. Vice-Chairman Opal stated that in r~fer- ence to page 1636, Section 715.04, the Building Official is to check the different phases of construction and if it is not in compliance to the original site plan, he is to stop construction and advise Council of his findings. He further stated he learned that one block, Block D, was sold out of the subdivision and the developer is building single family in that area. After a lengthy discussion concerning this matter, Mr. Finn made a motion that a letter be sent to Council, requesting that they advise why Council and/or Planning was not informed of the sale of Block D, Phase I, of Pelican Cove West Subdivision, which is contradictory to the original site plan; the Building Official be asked to appear at the Council meeting and explain why he did not inform them of th~s occurring; attach to the letter copies of the six building permits and applications from the owner, Edwin Hall; and attach a copy of Section 715.04 of the Code for their review. Mr. Chenoweth seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 5-0. There being no further business to corne before the Board, upon motion made by Mr. Finn to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Hillerich, the meeting was adjourned at 8:55 P.M. Minutes submitted by: Susan Mista -3- Planning Commission Meeting November 2, 1983 (.) Q Date ~A H/Y //1" 4; a-#~~.:SS/~ /II ee-r"H tt; 7 P~. W ~.,y -----------___. _____ A~l_ _________. _______._ I II--L .. ... . hi.. ... 1- --I : I I , I . -- - - - .-- - . -- --- no -..- - . - - -- - - -- -- .- 1 .. . . L -III n .J 1__ ..n un_,.. .. . . ... -- ....- ., - - j - _h . -- . - . . ... .. '1 .- . - _h. --- . ... . . -. . . r jH I u. -_. -. -- - - ----- -- --- ------- - .. ,- ~ .~. -- - -., . . -