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04-20-1983 1 .!.. ".:-~ Q u CITY OF EDGEWATER Planning Commission Regular Meeting April 20, 1983 Minutes Chairman Bennington called the regular meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. in the conference area of the Community Center. ROLL CALL Members present: Messrs. Bennington, Opal, Finn, Chenoweth and Quaggin. Excused: Mr. Winter. Also present: Ray Bradshaw, Building Official, Joan Taylor, Secretary and one member of the press. Mr. Quaggin was appointed to the Board as Alternate at the April 18th Council meeting. The Resolution has not been signed to date. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Mr. Opal and seconded by Mr. Finn to approve the minutes of the April 6, 1983 minutes. The motion CARRIED 4-0. SP-8306 - Ed Fosler - Addition to existing warehouse, 1937 Guava Drive, B-2 Preliminary and Final No one was present to represent the owner. Mr. Chenoweth motioned to table SP-8306, seconded by Mr. Opal. The motion CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Bennington noted that the Memo pertaining to a call to Mr. Harrison with D.O.T. advised that they would give Ed Hall only 16 feet entrance for his professional plaza. There was a brief discussion concerning the Kayo Service Station addition. A copy of the building permit was supplied to each member. Mr. Ed Fosler arrived to the meeting. Mr. Chenoweth motioned to take SP-8306 off the table, seconded by Mr. Opal and CARRIED 4-0. SP-8306 - Ed Fosler - Addition to existing warehouse, 1937 Guava Drive, B-2, Preliminary and Final. Mr. Bennington went over the Site Plan Checklist from the Department Heads noting that the Building Official's comment is evidently in error, in that construction plans by an architect or engineer are not required if it is under $25,000 value. It was determined that the rear of the property abuts R-4, requiring a buffer between the lots. There was a lengthy discussion con- cerning the definition of landscaping, which is required to be done for the first ten feet along the front of the property, except for ingress and egress. The Building Official requested that the Planning Commission make it clear what they are requiring in the way of landscaping so that he would have no difficulty intrepreting their request. Mayor McKillop said the intent of the landscaping is to have a nice looking area which would be an "eye-breaker". Mr. Fosler said he would go along with whatever was required, but would not like to spend hmfree time caring for a lot of schrubery and plants. Mr. Fosler asked how deep the drainage swales needed to be, and was advised that it should be the equivalent to one inch of water over the whole lot. Mr. Fos ler was asked to sod his landscaped area, and the swales. Mr. Opal motioned to approvethe application for the addition to his warehouse, for Preliminary and Final; the motion was seconded by Mr. Chenoweth, and CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Opal motioned to add to his first motion that the SP-8306 complies with the Comprehensive plan. The motion was seconded by Mr. Chenoweth and CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Bennington suggested that the Zoning Commission come up with a definition for landscaping. He did not believe the definition should be very restrictive, but would be a guide for the Building Official. OLD BUSINESS Zero Lot Lines Mr. Bennington said that he has been doing some reading on zero lot lines, and , ... er'" ~\-)Ii Q o , feared that they may not fully understand what zero lot lines are. The book referred to the use in single family. The Planning .Commission's reasoning for zero lot line was to allow mUlti-family to be sold as individual units. He believed they should stay with that concept. Mr. Opal said he had looked at the duplex buildings in Pelican Cove West and noted that the buildings were separated by a wall. In his opinion those were single family homes and not duplexes; zero lot line in that case would never apply. There was a lengthy discussion on the exact meaning of a duplex, and how a zero lot line would apply in that use. Mr. Bradshaw explained how the single family zero lot line worked, noting that it gave the property owner 20 feet on one side to use, as opposed to just 10 feet on each side of the house. This concept worked well in the planned unit development. Mayor McKillop explained that the zero lot line ordinance was sent back to Planning to determine if they wished to adopt the concept being put into effect in Pelican Cove West, with the five or six feet between the buildings. Mr. Bradshaw called attention to the situation which seemed to violate their own ordinance, ie. there is a law that you can't build on less than two lots in Florida Shores, then come back with a concept which allows a duplex on the same two lots. The duplexes are sold so you still have one home on a single lot. Mr. Bennington noted that no square footage requirement is stated under R-4. Mr. Bradshaw explained the six types of buildings from the standpoint of fire in the Standard Building Code, and also the meaning of the two-hour and four-hour separation for the fire wall. Mr. Bennington felt they should stay with the concept of keeping the buildings adjoined. He suggested that the final draft of the ordinance be sent to the Zoning Commission for their input, and let them send it to Council. Referring to the power for the building, Mr. Bradshaw said that with two units it would hit the building at the fire separation; it violates code to come into the building at two different positions. If you multiply units you still have to hit the building at one place for power entrances. This is primarily done for the safety of firemen. Mr. Bennington offered the following draft: The minimum yard shall be the same as for the zoning classification in which the subdivision is located or proposed, except the exterior side yard shall be a minimum of 20 feet and the interior side yard shall be zero; the interior wall shall be a minimum of 4-hour separation. Mr. Bradshaw said that was strict. It was agreed that if the ordinance called for a minimum of 2-hour separation and someone came in with a large enough structure that exceeded the building code then it would automatically go to 4-hour. Mr. Bradshaw explained that the way a building is marketed should be. ;.understood when it is approved. A condo requires I-hour separation. Duplexes which are sold fee simple require 2-hour or more. Discussion was had concerning the City's position if a building constructed with I-hour separation was sold years later, as a duplex. The motion was made by Mr. Opal, seconded by Mr. Chenoweth and CARRIED 4-0 to table the discussion on zero lot lines until the next regular meeting. Review of New By-Laws It was recommended that Article XI:Amendments of the By-Laws say "at least" three (3) days instead of as shown. The motion was made by Mr. Chenoweth, seconded by Mr. Finn, and CARRIED 3-1 to accept the new By-Laws, as amended this date. Mr. Opal voted No. MISCELLANEOUS Mr. Ron Carwile of Coastal Tire Company was present to briefly discuss with the Board his plans for an addition to his existing business building at 1701 South Ridgewood. He was advised that he could do his own drawing, but it must show existing building, setbacks, landscaped area, screened garbage area, and go before the department heads for their comments. Off- street parking would need to be shown. The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m. Minutes submitted by Joan Taylor Planning Commission Meeting 4/20/83 - 2 - (.) . Q I -b- i)at..e: 9~.A:t d.. 0 I' F 3 "' I I I - , I , - I I - " I . - I ;, I I I I I ,- I I . .