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~ITY OF EDGEWATER
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 17, 1986
9:00 AM
COMMUNITY CENTER
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MINUTES
Chairman Wheeler called to order a regular meeting of the Planning
and Zoning Board at 9:00 A.M., July 17, 1986 in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL:
Members present were Jake Wheeler, Paul Loeffler, Billy Klein and
Nancy Blazi. Also present were Lynne Plaskett, Planning Assistant,
Carolyn Hollnon, Secretary and Jan Morris, Secretary. Board members
excused were George Quaggin, Fred Finn and James Mackie.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of July 3, 1986 regular meeting were pres~nted for
approval. Mrs. Blazi made a motion to approve the_m~nutes as written.
Mr. Loeffler seconded the motion. Motion CARRIED 3-0 with Mr. Klein
stating he was not present at that meeting therefore he could not
vote.
ANNEXATION AND REZONING - THE RADNOR CORPORATION
Mr. Glenn Storch, Attorney, Mr. Jack Lyon, Mr. Marty Berge and Mr.
Al Davis, Engineer were present to represent the Radnor Corporation.
This application was to annex a total of 156.62 acres into the City
and to rezone the 138.93 acres in Tract I from County R-3 to City
MH-2 and the 17.69 acres in Tract II from County B-4 to City B-3.
Mrs. Plaskett read her recommendations which included "no septic
tanks allowed, all costs of upgrading the sewer system be at the
developers expense, limit greatly the amount of stormwater run-off
to the river, save as many tress and natural vegetation as possible,
maintenance of common areas and streets be provided in documented
form and approved by the City Attorney, and that all state and federal
permits be provided prior to any construction. Mr. Storch showed
some plans for the property and said what they will be putting in there
will be from medium density to commercial. He added what they are
creating will be quality for the City of Edgewater. Mr. Lyons
related to the Board who the Company was and what their philosophy of
development is to the Radnor Corporation. He added the Radnor Corporation
is the land development subsidary of the Sun Company (whom use to
be known as the Sun Oil Company). Mr. Lyons stated in the ten years
of their existence they had some eighty projects in thirteen states
with their real estate holdings approaching a billon dollars.
He said they develop their projects using many local people, therefore
bringing their experience in that particular field in which they
are going to be involved and the advantage of their local presence.
Mr. Berge told the Board his principal background was engineering
and marketing. He added he had developed several manufactured housing
communities up north. Mr. Berge said he recently developed Floral
Lakes in Bartow and right now he was associated with the Marion Landings
in Ocala. He added that seventy percent of the residents of the
Community that Radnor is developing will come from up north. "We have
set up a budget just short of a half a millon dollars a year to market
this product. " He added we will be princially marketing Edgewater
as the ideal location. He said they won't be selling a home they will
be selling a lifestyle. He explained what recreational facilities
would be available to the residents of their community. He said the
average price of their homes would be around sixty five thousand dollars.
Mr. Berge said the manufactured homes of today are built according to
a HUD Code and they will only handle Florida manufactured homes of the
highest quality. He emphasized the residents will own their homes
and lots, all Radnor will own is the unsold lots. He said the resident
association will own the recreation center and all the common areas.
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Mr. Wheeler asked what the smallest units would be. Mr. Berge replied
the srnallest will be approximately eight hundred and fifty square feet
and there will be very few of them. He added the average home in the
community will be around twelve to fourteen hundred square feet.
Mr. Wheeler asked if the County had lifted the mortatorium? Mr. Storch
replied they haven't lifted it, basically what they were asking for
today is your approval contingent upon them lifting the mortatorium.
He added they are undergoing the waiver process at this time. He said
they had discussions with the County Planning staff and what they were
requesting that be done was to go through the amendment to the comprehensive
plan process which requires them to go through the Department of
Community Affairs and get input from the various other governmental
agencies. Mr. Storch added at this time the mortatorium is scheduled
to be lifted in September. He stated they have a draft of the
performance standards and they agreed to meet or exceed those standards.
Mr. Storch stated they have engineered their stormwater so that less
stormwater run-off will be going into the river after development than
is going in now.
Mr. Al Davis, Engineer, spoke to the Board in reference to the water
retention areas and the elevations of the land. He said they had
talked to St. John's Water Management, Corp of Engineers and Department
of Environmental Regulations in relation to closing the ditches on the
property and putting in extensive holding patterns for the water in
conjunction to regulations they will materially reduce the amount of
the water that will flow into the Indian River at all.
Mr. Davis stated the access would be off of u.S. 1 at an existing
crossover. He added they have attempted to put in a curvelinear type
of development and they have made sure that the lots themselves will
be able to perserve the trees as far as they possibly can. He said they
have set out an environmental set back line that will be a walking trail
and are planning a foot walk to spoil island which will be recreational
only. He added there will be an environmental easement and buffer to
the neighbors. Mr. Storch said the site plan is preliminary conceptual
plan that the final plans will be much better.
Mr. Storch went over Mrs. Plaskett's recommendations and the corporation
agreed to meet each of them. Mr. Davis went over a few of their
construction requirements for the manufactured homes. Mr. Berge stated
their project will be finished ready to move in before they start selling.
Mr. Klein said his main concern was the conditions that will flow into
the river and into the lagoon. The present mortatorium that has been
declared, I know that the paper this week said that on July 24th they
are presenting to the County Council the land use recommendations. The
City of Edgewater has nothing of this sort at this time. I am in favor
of a work session where we have a copy. I don't want to sit here and
read these today and make a decision as to whether I'll recommend or not
recommend. Mrs. Plaskett replied we do have a future land use map that
was done in 1979. Mr. Klein replied but the conditions that are
existing now with state and county with the flow of stuff into the river,
the concerns of the people now has become an issue and I'm very much
concerned about it. Mr. Storch replied I can understand your concern
that is why we ask the Board to make their recommendation contingent
upon our meeting those requirements and if we don't then fine we are
not in it, there is no problem.
The Board and representatives discussed the water and sewer availability.
They also discussed police protection and Mr. Berge stated they would
provide and entrance guard and gate to the community.
Mr. Clay Henderson spoke as a representative of the Friends of
Canaveral. He stated they had been studying the development impacts
on the Canaveral National Seashore anQ had caused several additional
standards to be set for the area. Mr. Henderson said the change in
the quality of the run-off is different in developed land than undeveloped.
He added that is why we really have to look at the way the plans
are set forth. Mr. Henderson said his concerns are that we keep the
procedures in place to make sure these development standards are complied
within their final form and that the County is allowed full comment
through the process so that any rezoning be contingent on approval of
the comprehensive plan. If you are going to go along with annexation
and rezoning it be contingent upon amendment of the comprehensive plan
compliance with the County performance standards and/or waiver of the
mortatorium would be my recommendation.
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Mr. Lyons informed the Board that they would either comply with the
performance standards and/or obtain a waiver of a mortatorium if it
is continued or if something unforeseen comes that is going to cost
us a small fortune to comply with and there is no economical way for it
to be developed we will have to walk away from it. Mr. Storch said we
are assuming the mortatorium will stay but there is a waiver process we
are going through. Mr. Wheeler said the County could exempt this
project.
Mrs. Blazi made a motion to recommend to the City Council that they
annex and rezone this property contingent upon amendment of the
comprehensive plan, the plans with County standards and/or a waiver
of the mortatorium. Mr. Loeffler seconded the motion. Upon roll call
the Motion FAILED 3-1 with Mr. Klein voting no. Mr. Klein said he would
like to sit down with a workshop. He would like to know what some of
these regulations are, that his concern is still for the development
and the overflow into the river and lagoon. I ask for a work session
to sit down and talk about it with the other three members here.
The Radnor representatives and the Board discussed the subject further
and Mr. Wheeler asked Mr. Klein if he wanted to change his mind. Mr.
Klein declined to change his vote. Mrs. Blazi asked Mr. Wheeler to
poll the Board Members on setting a special meeting when more members
would be here. Mr. Storch said if you can not change your mind we
will take your recommendation as it is, even though it fails because
of the technicality, and go before the City because we need to ~
continue along the process. Mr. Wheeler said yes, we can do that,
we won't call a special meeting then.
SUBDIVISION SKETCH PLAN: THOMAS J. KOVACS B-3
Mr. Thomas J. Kovacs, Developer and Mr. Richard Cuchetti, Owner, were
present to discuss this sketch plan. This application was to sub-
divide part of lot four (4), Assessors Sub, Sheppard and Sanchez Grant.
This property is located between Knapp and Yelkca, east side of
U.S. 1. This request if to sub-divide this property into ten lots.
Mrs. Plaskett said they need to comply with the subdivision rules
and regulations which call for the street width right of way to be
fifty foot and the street shown here is actually an existing thirty
foot alley that people access to their property right now. Mrs. Plaskett
continued what she was going to ask the Board members is decide whether
or not they want to continue the thirty foot right of way as it is now
laid out or must the developer change it to fifty foot right of way.
Mrs. Blazi asked if it was a City alley. A thirty foot right of way
from Riverside Drive was discussed. Mr. Kovacs said this piece of
property was almost three acres, sitting back in an isolated area.
He said Mr. Cuchetti was trying to sell the property and they wanted
to put something together with the Board in order to have something to
tell the prospects. Mr. Kovacs stated Mr. Cuchetti owns the thirty
foot right of way all the way to the river. Mr. Loeffler wondered if
they might not purchase a lot on Yelkca or Knapp and put in a new
right of way. Mr. Kovacs asked if they would allow the right of way
to be a private road. Mrs. Blazi said if it is a private road then
the City can not go in to pick up garbage or anything.
The Board instructed Mrs. Plaskett to find out if the Board of Adjustments
may grant a variance as to the street width so that they may use the
alley that is already there.
Mrs. Blazi made a motion to recommend that the Planning Assistant
research the ordinance and if that is the course of action, recommend
that they go to the Board of Adjustment on the ingress, egress on this
property. Motion seconded by Mr. Klein. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
SITE PLAN REVIEW:
SP-8612
JON DAVIS, D & D RACEWAY
B-2
Mr. Davis was present to discuss this site plan which is to have a
remote control electric car race track at 2322 Hibiscus Drive.
Mr. Loeffler asked if this was not already built. Mr. Davis replied
yes. Mrs. Plaskett said there was a misunderstanding when they went
before the Board to get a special exception they went ahead and got
a building permit. The minutes reflect that even the City Clerk
was under the impression they could go at that point and get an
occupational license because there was no actual building involved.
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Mrs. Blazi asked who approved this to start with. The secretary said
they were at the Planning meeting to obtain a permitted use in that zone
because it was an unclassified business. Mr. Wheeler said we only approved
it as a permitted use. The secretary informed the Board that the City
Council has approved it as a permitted use also. Mrs. Blazi asked there
are no building~ no facilities, like bathrooms. Mrs. Plaskett said they
have two chemical toliets approved by the County Health Department.
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Mr. Loeffler made a motion to accept the site plan. Motion seconded by
Mr. Klein. Motion CARRIED 4-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
REVIEW APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW GAS PUMPS IN B-2
Mr. Earl Wallace was present to represent Mr. Raymond Richards in his
request to have gas pumps in the B-2 zoning district. This project is
to be located at 811 Indian River Boulevard. The Board discussed
reviewing this before and it was explained to them the City Council
had approved this as a special exception in the B-2 zone, therefore
they had made application for that and the Board must make their
recommendation to the Board of Adjustment. 'Mr. Wallace stated they
only planned on installing one set of pumps. Mrs. Plaskett explained
they would have to put up a little structure for customers to pay
for the gas because an accessory use has to be on the same lot as the
principal use. Mr. Wallace said they are setting up their site plan
in such way as to eliminate some of the traffic congestion. Mr. Klein
explained how congested the area is now and asked about the twenty five
feet to the pumps. Mr. Wallaces replied Section 713, Appendix A gave
the setbacks for pumps. Mr. Klein was concerned with the traffic
congestion. Mrs. Plaskett told the Board the whole reason for special
exceptions was to set restrictions or limitations on a use if the Board
desired to do so. The Board discussed the parking and the placement
of the pumps. They informed Mr. Wallace to move the pumps over nearer
the center and asked him to put post in between the Shop EZ. '
Mr. Klein made a motion to recommend to the Board of Adjustments
that the application made by Mr. Wallace to locate gas pumps in the
B-2 zone be approved. Mrs. Blazi seconded the motion. Motion
CARRIED 4-0.
There being no further business to corne before the Board, Mrs.
Nancy Blazi made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Motion was
seconded by Mr. Loeffler. Meeting adjourned at 11:45 A.M.
Minutes Respectfully Re-submitted By:
Jan Morris
At request of Planning and Zoning Board
by a motion made and carried at the
September 18, 1986 meeting.
Planning and Zoning Minutes
Regular meeting
July 17, 1986