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04-11-1978 Joint w/Planning Board o EDGEWATER ZONING BOARD and EDGEWATER PLANNING BOARD JOINT MEETING APRIL 11, 1978 (,J Mr. J. Mackie called the joint meeting to order on April 11, 1978 at 7:40. ROLL CALL: Mr. Nichol s Mr. Wolfe Mr. Wiggins Mr. Engle Mr. Bartholomew Mr. Siciliano Excused Absent (arrived at 7:45) Present Present Present Present Mr. Mackie asked if everyone has had a chance to read the minutes of the last meeting. Mr. Engle asked that one change be made on the entrances into Florida Shores. The minutes show that there are only two entrances. This should be three. Mr. Wiggins made a motion to accept the minutes with the above correction. Mr~ Engles made the second. CARRIED. The meeting was turned over to Chairman Wolfe. Mrs. Webber asked that Mr. and Mrs. Nichols be excused. They called in to say that they were both ill. Chairman Wolfe stated that the first thing that we have is Mr. Hamel' s property. Copies have been passed around on the Public Hearing that was held last week. Chairman Schilling from the Planning Board called the roll of the Planning Board: Betty Still Ryta Webber Marie Nichols Jacob Lodico Edward Yackel William Grollemund Harold Read Daniel Noland George Ladhoff Steve Hardock Arthru Schilling Richard Diamond, City Planner Present Present Excused Present Excused Present Absent Present Present A [sent Present Present Mr. Hamel passed around a revised plan of Pelican Cove. Chairman Wolfe asked Chairman Schilling if there were any questions from the Planning Board. Mr. Mackie of the Zoning Board stated that there was one problem. We already have a Pelican Place in Edgewater, so the Pelican Drive would have to be changed so not to confuse the Fire Dept, Police Dept., etc. Chairman Wolfe stated that we will put this into our recommendation. Chairman Schilling and the other members of very concerned with just the one entrance. Mr. Hamel stated that he does not feel that problem. the Planning Board are This was discussed. this would be any I r Q Q This will be taken care of in the site plan when presented. Chairman Wolfe asked if there were any easements for the a~ea to get to the river for recreation~purposes? Mr. Dexter stated that there is an area by the river for this very thing. He pointed it out on the plan. There was some discussion on the B-3 zoning that Mr. Hamel is requesting. Chairman Wolfe read page 86 of Ordinance 880. The Highway Business District. Chairman Schilling stated that he would like to see this zoned Neighborhood Business. Chairman Wolfe stated that they must provide sewer and water. Also we are going to ask them to put sidewalks in. The type of building was discussed. These will have to conform with the building code. Mr. Schilling asked about the drainage. This will all come out with the engineering plans. Councilman Dietz stated that when these engineering plans come in, they will have to be approved by our engineers. Chairman Schilling stated that one of the things that make Edgewater attractive is that we do not have any high buildings on the river- front. He thinks that we should encourage that these buildings do not get too high. Mr. Hamel stated that they do not plan anything three stories. Mr. Engle made a motion to accept these plans as presented by Mr. Hamel. Mr. Siciliano made the second. CARRIED. Mr. Engle made a motion to change the parts shown on the preliminary plans from MH-l to R-4 and MH-l to B-3. Mr. Siciliano made the second. CARRIED. Chairman Schilling asked if the Planning Board would like to vote on this. Mrs. Webber moved that this plan be accepted by the Ple~~ing Board. Mr. Lodico made the second. CARRIED. Chairman Wolfe passed around the Topographic Map on the Indian River Shores Subdivision. Chairman Wolfe asked Councilman Dietz how far the water line goes. down south Riverside Drive toward Friendly Shores. Councilman Dietz stated that it is a two inch line. It goes to Friendly Shores. Chairman Wolfe explained the Topographic Map to the members of the Planning Board and Zoning Board. Chairman Wolfe explained that these gentlemen are now asking that this topographic map be approved as shown. The next map that will be brought in will be the preliminary plan of the subdivision. -2- r o Q Mrs. Webber stated that Edgewater is now eligible for Flood Control Insurance, and property must be eight feet from sea level if they want flood insurance. Chairman Schilling asked that where the proposed road is suppose to be, it shows that it extends two feet off the south line of Lot 15. Chairman Wolfe stated that they purchased ten more feet from the man to the south to get the fifty foot lot. This will be a bubble road. Mr. Schillings asked about the twenty feet to the north end. Chairman Wolfe stated that this was Mr. Reads. He owned all the property and he kept twenty feet to have a little more space on his south line. Mr. Mackie made a motion to accept this preliminary Topographic Map as presented. Mr. Engle made the second. CARRIED. Mr. Dexter thanked the two boards for holding this meeting. Councilman Dietz stated that there were a coupl~, of things that came up to the Council last night that they did not quite under- stand. He went on to say that the Zoning Board sent the Council a letter concerning the property down by Boston Road. This you wanted changed from B-5 to R-3. Chairman Wolfe stated that the reason we wanted it changed was because of the people who live in that area. We felt that it would solve their problem to change it to R-3. This was the original zoning. Councilman Dietz stated that when a change like this is made, it has to go to the Planning Board. Chairman Schilling stated that they would like to have close con- tact with the Zoning Board until the comprehensive act is complete. Chairman Wolfe stated that at Public Hearings there should be a map that the people can look at and see what is being talked about. Chairman Schilling stated that things pretaining to the Planning Board should come to them before they go to the Council. He went on to say that the Council has asked that a member of the board be present at the Council meeting when things go to the Council from that board. Chairman Wolfe stated that at the three days of Public Hearings we had for Ordinance 880 only twelve people showed up that were interested in seeing what was going on in this City. Councilman Dietz stated that he feels that we made a major step in 1974 passing this ordinance. Now we are trying to correct the mistakes that were made. Our growth pattern is coming so rapidly and these changes are hitting us so fast that we can't keep up with them. Councilman Dietz brought up the subject of the man who is trying to build a duplex in back of the ship. There are already duplexes there and he can1t do it because the law says no. He has been to the Zoning Board, the Board of Adjustments and the City Council and he needs some relief. The county has it written in their laws that you can have a special exception, and has criteria which they have to go by. This is what we are trying to do. Mr. Mackie brought up the notice that was in the paper on McGinnis. -3- " .. . o o Mr. Nichols had made the notion to add Food processing, honey products only, to B-5 Planned Shopping Center District under permitted uses. You advertised food processing. Councilman Dietz stated that you can not specify honey products. That is spot zoning. There was much discussion on this. Mr. Mackie stated that Mr. McGinnis is the only honey product business in this City. His building was there before the zoning. He is the only one that has applied for an increase in his busi- ness, so we gave it to him. Now, when the Council gets it, they say that we are discriminating. This is the only man in this business. So we can't be discriminating. Councilman Dietz stated that we have to rely on what the attorney says. We can not go against what he advises. If these things go to court he is the one who defends us. Chairman Wolfe stated that he gave Mayor Christy an opinion at the last meeting. Couldn't he say permitted uses, leave the word "food processing" out, and say Honey By-Products. Mrs. Webber stated that she feels that there should be someone from the board present at the Council meeting when something is coming up from that board. Then if there are any questions, they can explain it. Mr. Wolfe stated that we could do that. There was some discussion on the letter that went to the Council in September and then back again in January. Councilman Dietz asked that that letter be resubmitted to the Council. Chairman Wolfe stated that there is no City Subdivision law. Councilman Dietz stated that this is being worked on now by Briley, vJild. Mrs. Webber stated that she was here when the people from the Charter were here and they are suppose to put the Subdivision laws in the Charter. That will give us an updating on this. There was some discussion on the classifications on Occupational licenses. Chairman Schilling asked the Zoning Board if they would please let the Chairman of the Planning Board know of anything that they plan to do that changes the present zoning in any area. Chairman Wolfe stated that he will let the Planning Board know on any zoning change. ADJOURN. -4-