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02-12-1986 #~ Q o a1 . . CITY OF EDGEWATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD February 12, 1986 7:00 p.m. COMMUNITY CENTER MINUTES Vice Chairman. Sheridan called the meeting to order at 7:14.p.m. in the Corrmuni ty Center and welcomed Dr. Bazin to the Board. . Dr. Bazin stated it was a pleasure to be here. ROLL CALL Members present were: Harry Montgomery, Barbara Curry, Dr. Bazin, Thomas Sheridan. Absent: Kirk Jones. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Sheridan called for approval of the minutes of December 11, 1985 meeting. Mr. Montgomery moved the minutes be approved, seconded by Mrs. Curry. Motion CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Sheridan then called for a discussion of the flag donation and read the memo from Mrs. Martinez, suggesting we send a letter to Mrs. Figg inquiring as to her decision. Dr. Bazin asked where the flag will go and Mr. Garrett stated probably here in front of City Hall. There was no further discussion on this subject. Mr. Sheridan then turned to the agenda item regarding a Revenue Report which Mr. Garrett was asked to give. ~e sta~ed the report did not break down the separate facilities but does believe it should be updated every year because of the change in electrical rates, etc. that could be deducted from initial costs, and that way we will know if we are operating in the red or black. Mr. Sheridan then turned to the memo from Mrs. Martinez concerning the Board's purpose re Staff. He proceeded to read the memo and also the Board's By-Laws concerning "Duties". Mr. Sheridan stated he believes we are carrying out the policy of the Council; that anything we have done within this Board has been within the confines of the By-Laws. Mr. Montgomery stated the only thought he had along this line was perhaps the pier project, and Dr. Bazin asked what that was about. Mr. Montgomery explained the V.olul!~~Elr Fire Department was going to provide the money for a ~;-'1:al1fitc-Nde barbeque pits, etc., and they wanted the City empioyees to build it. Mr. Garrett stated he was strapped at that time and was understaffed. Mr. Sheridan stated we have gone out of our way to do things required of us and wished he knew exactly what Mrs. Martinez means. Mr. Garrett and Mr. Sheridan then entered into conversations dealing with misunderstandings. Mr. Sheridan ~nded by saying we have an obligation to the citizens of this City; we have had the impact fee for over two years, but no evidence of its use except Roberts Road property. He also stated people call him and ask where the parks are we are supposed to have. Mr. Sheridan stated if anything was said implying the Board was giving direct orders, it was not intended that way, and that we are sitting here discussing the same things we discussed this time last year. Mr. Garrett said there is so much going on in this town things just can't get done, and that he, too, gets discouraged. Mr. Sheridan then stated that when it comes to priorities, the Parks is at the bottom of the list; that people paid their money for parks and are not getting it. Mr. Garrett stated recreation fee money will not go that far; for instance, the purchase of the pool. Mr. Sheridan then told Mr. Garrett he is apologizing for this Board if something in the minute~ has 'been interpreted wrongly, that this :Board can only make recommendations; they have no , ,. Q o authority to give orders and he thought that is what we were doing. He stated he did not know of one instance where the Board came and and said "do this". Quite a discussion of this topic ensued, with Mr. Sheridan asking Mr. Garrett if the work load is so high, could the Board get him some help. Mr. Garrett stated we have to be patient, we are adding to City Hall at this time. Mr. Montgomery stated he agrees with Mr. Sheridan, as people are always asking him what is being done, and that of course Roberts Road is pretty significant. He believes it was not publicized too much, but we are just going to have to keep plugging away and work with Mr. Garrett the best we can. The Board then discussed the possibility of a meeting with Council but unanimously agreed to reject this idea. Mr. Sheridan then announced elections were in order and called for nominations of Chairman. Mr. Montgomery moved that Mr. Sheridan be nominated as Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Board, seconded by Dr. Bazin. The motion CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Sheridan then nominated Mr. Montgomery as Vice Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Board, seconded by Mrs. Curry. Motion CARRIED 4-0. Mr. Sheridan then asked Mr. Garrett about a conversation which took place around November 13th with Mr. Jones, in regard to grant money, and asked if anything had been done about that. Mr. Garrett replied he had been in touch with DNR, the EPA, and the DER, and $73,000 was available, but the City will have to match that amount and there is not a definite yes from the City. Dr. Bazin then asked who writes for the Grants and Mr. Garrett stated he does, and questions are to be answered such as how far away from the river, whether near salt water, etc. Dr. Bazin stated he has books that were very successful in grant money that might help Mr. Garrett. Mr. Sheridan then asked the status of the Jurgenson property and Mr. Garrett stated there is about 325 feet of frontage south of Rio Vista. Mr. Sheridan said perhaps the Board could take a look at it and what we have, and Mr. Garrett said it is a nice piece of property. Mr. Sheridan then discussed Umbrella Tree Park and that he understood Mr. Copeland was going to get something done there and Mr. Garrett said yes, he is. Mr. Sheridan then asked Mr. Garrett if he thought we should get Roberts Road property cleared and Mr. Garrett stated he didn't think so. Mr. Montgomery suggested we do one small section at a time. Mr. Garrett stated priorities determine what has to be done, and Mr. Sheridan said if we had it cleared, people could see what we have there. Mr. Garrett than announced he and Mr. Asting had been nominated to attend a meeting of the Daytona Beach Community College in Edgewater next Tuesday, for discussion. The Community College would like New SmyrDa Beach and Edgewater's input as to recreation facilities to serve. both Cities and asked the Board if they had any suggestions to make. A discussion followed as to whether the facilities would be only for the benefit of the college or would the Cities be able to lease the pool, gymnasium, or whatever facilities they plan to build. Mr. Montgomery suggested a small theater to bring culture into the area. Mr. Sheridan then asked Mr. Garrett to make a list of what he thinks we have the greatest need for, and perhaps they will let us use these facilities. The Board then discussed the acquisition of Aqua Park by the City (prior to this meeting being called to order, Mr. and Mrs. Stearns spoke with the Board on this subject) and Mr. Sheridan stated he would like very much to make a study of this subject. Dr. Bazin Parks and Recreation Board Minutes of February 12, 1986 -2- Meeting . . (J o .. said he b~lieved there would be an indoor pool in the area in the next couple of years and that he had seen a sign concerning a new gymnatorium but didn't know too much about it but believes it is the Missionary Church. Mr. Montgomery stated he believes the pool is about ten years old, and Mrs. Curry believes it is older than that. Quite a discussion followed on the Aqua Park subject with Mr. Garrett passing out criteria on pools. Mr. Sheridan noted some projects would have to be done for the handicapped, along with a lot of other alterations. Mr. Montgomery added we would have maintenance of the pool, paying for lifequards,and having someone there full time. Mr. Sheridan then suggested the Board take the information we have, think it over, and at the next meeting make a determination as to its feas- ability, and then send it' to Council. Mr. Montgomery suggested we put out feelers, talk with people about investing in a pool. Mr. Montgomery also suggested the Board find out a little more about the deal Dr. Bazin had mentioned concerning a gymnatorium. Dr. Bazin then inquired about the Magnuson Corporation notation and the Board explained there was a possible donation of land from that corporation. Mr. Sheridan then asked Mr. Garrett whether anyone had received any information concerning the two lots on Umbrella Tree. adjacent to the four lots we have, and Mr. Garrett replied he believes it was $6,700 for the two lots. Mr. Sheridan suggested if they were available and the Council would go for it, we could possibly develop it at a future date. Mr. Garrett stated perhaps now that the lot adjacent has been cleared, the price may go down. . / Mr. Sheridan then discussed the Luis Geil request to eliminate one building at the Halifax Court Condo project and replace it with a pool, recreation building and shuffleboard court, which plan was approved by the Planning and Zoning Board. Mr. Sheridan inquired as to whether that land was conveyed to the City rather than pay the impact fee, as once it is conveyed it is public property. Mr. Montgomery stated that property is privately developed and the only people who will have access to it will be the people living there. Mr. Sheridan stated he thought the Board should know about these things. Mrs. Curry then asked if Umbrella Tree might be ready for June 11th or 15th, the getting out of school date, and that perhaps the mention of baseball season is going to take priority over the playground. Mr. Garrett stated he can't answer that, that they have a few improve- ments out there such as a sprinkler system, some seeding on the out- field; that hopefully it will cut down on maintenance. Mrs. Curry then stated she thought it is coming to a situation where we are going to have to have a director of parks and a director of recreation and Mr. Sheridan stated it should be two individual jobs. Mr. Montgomery said he just wanted to add that Mr. Garrett is doing a fine job. Mr. Sheridan then asked what has happened to the bike path and Mr. Garrett said it is on hold right now; that Dan Corey is looking into the right of way which may only be eight feet instead of fifteen feet wide and that the City engineers are contacting the land owners. A brief discussion took place as to why this was not looked into before the project got started, that we have tried to organize and plan anything,we have sent to Council so that when it gets there they know exactly what to discuss and can then make a determin- ation. Mr. Montgomery then added we do the best we can and Mr. Sheridan stated that is all we can do. There being no further business, Mr. Montgomery moved the meeting be adjourned, seconded by Mrs. Curry. Motion CARRIED 4-0. The meeting then adjourned at 8:15 p.m. Minutes submitted by Dorothy C. Garrity Parks and Recreation Board Minutes of 2/12/86 Meeting -3-