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CITY OF EDGEWATER
Parks and Recreation Board
November 14, 1984
Minutes
Mr. Jones called the meeting to order at 7:20 p.m. in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Messrs. Jones, Sheridan and Montgomery*. Excused: Mrs.
Begel. Absent: Mr. Richards. Also present: Mr. Garrett, Recreational
Director, and Joan Taylor, Secretary. (Mr. Montgomery arrived at 7:20 p.m.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the October 10, 1984 meeting were unanimously approved as
submitted.
OLD BUSINESS
Report on request for City owned land for park use
Mr. Jones explained that this request was tabled by Council, noting that
Mr. Wargo had suggested getting opinions from adjacent property owners and
Mrs. Bennington said they had suggested a joint meeting between the Board
and the DAV representative regarding these properties. Mr. Sheridan referred
the members to the opinion of Mr. Alvarez concerning this matter. Mr. Jones
read the comments of Mr. Alvarez into the record. Mr. Alvarez had recommended
from the point of view of zoning and the Comprehensive Plan that either
Planning and Zoning or Parks and Recreation look at the matter and report
to Council. Mr. Sheridan said that that was the Parks and Recreation Board's
intent when they sent the letter to Council requesting to use the property
and he cannot understand why the Council would table this. Mr. Jones asked
how they could get it back off the table and open it up' for ~ussion again.
Mr. Sheridan was concerned that during the interim the Board may lose the
use of the property. He questioned why the City Council would give a
desirable piece of land which could be used by a great number of people
to a group of about 65 people. It was agreed to review this subject again
at the next meeting of the Board.
Mr. Garrett suggested that perhaps the neighbors could be contacted. He
pointed out that there will be a half-court basketball court there which
can be built in anyone's driveway or backyard now. Mr. Jones expressed
the hope that some of these people will come to the meeting and voice their
opinion on the matter.
Mr. Montgomery moved to send a letter to the surrounding property owners
explaining the proposal for the park and asking for their input. Mr.
Sheridan seconded the motion which CARRIED 3-0.
Request to use Port Authority Grant for fishing pier at 442 and Riverside
Drive.
The Chairman informed the members that the Council unanimously approved the
use of Port Authority Grant funds for the construction of a fishing pier at
the east end of Rt. 442,at their November 8th meeting. Mr. Garrett said
they may need to put in a seawall there. He would like to see a small
restroom put in and cars will be restricted to a certain area, he noted.
The restriction of the cars was of concern to Mr. Sheridan and he suggested
a ranch-type fence.
Possible sites for future parks
Mr. Sheridan produced a map and pointed out a triangular piece of county
land at the end of Florida Shores between Orange Tree Drive and Umbrella
Tree Drive. Mr. Garrett provided additional lnformation on this parcel
and said that it is 2.46 acre and they are asking $11/500. Some filling
may be required. The members felt this would bean ideal site and easily
annexed into the City. Mr. Garrett also pointed out a piece of property
between Vista and Unity saying that there are six blocks there; the asking
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price is $16,200. Mr. Garrett indicated that across the railroad tracks
on Roberts Road there exists fourteen and a half acres which are available.
This site would have good access from U. S. 1 and could easily be annexed
into the City.
The members agreed to meet with Mr. Garrett at 10 a.m. on Friday morning,
November 16th to make an on-site inspection of the properties under discussion.
The secretary was asked to contact Mrs. Begel and Mr. Richards to advise them
of the planned meeting. If a special meeting is necessary to take action on
the matter Mr. Jones suggested this could be done.
Mr. Garrett said that Council only put $60,000 in the non-reverting land fund
for this year from the impact fee. Mr. Sheridan questioned why the full sum
wouldn't ~vailable, and Mr. Garrett said that he would have to check into
this. He said he had been advised by one of the councilmen that that money
would be available at any time.
Bike Path
Mr. Sheridan said that he has reviewed the Recreational Impact Fee ordinance
and in his_opinion there is nothing there which would justify spending that
money for a bike path. He said that the bike path has been in the works for
the past two or three years and he doesn't know how the City intended to fund
it before the impact fee came into effect. The ordinance specifically states
what that money should be spent for. The prime thing Council kept talking
about on the bike path is the safety factor. He stated that he is 100% in
favor of the bike path but does not believe that they can justify taking the
money from the recreational impact fee fund. He felt it would be a mis-
appropriation of funds. Because the Board members have been sworn in and
are responsible to the Council it is his feeling that this matter should be
brought to the Council for review. Mr. Sheridan moved that a letter be
sent to the City Council requesting the City Attorney research Ordinance
83-0-20 to clarify specffically Section 4(a} and 5(a} which address the manner
in which the impact fee monies are to be spent. The motion died for lack of
a second.
This subject was discussed further. Mr. Jones said he felt that there is
a good possibility that they may lose the impact fees if the City misuses
the funds. Mr. Montgomery said that he feels the City owes them (Wildwood
residents) the bike path. He said for the safety of the children they
need the bike path, but it would be a form of recreation. There was some
discussion as to whether it could be considered open space. Mr. Sheridan
emphasized that the funds should be used for land which the City acquired
and they did not acquire this land. It is his opinion that the ordinance
should be researched. He noted that there are 60 to 70 new homes every
month and the tax base is being increased, and stated that he could not see
why the City. could not pay for the bike paths. Mr. Montgomery concurred
with the recommendation that this ordinance be reviewed.
Mr. Jones asked how close the bike path is to being a reality. Mr. Garrett
said that it is getting very close; the F.P. & L. has said it can move its
poles back at no charge to the City. He said that the new curb will cost
quite a lot of money, and Mr. Sheridan asked why the curb should not come
out of the public works money instead of recreation funds. Mr. Garrett
responded that it is a County Road and they are donating the right of way.
Mr. Sheridan said that he felt if th~take this money for a bike path they
are depriving the City as a whole of recreational facilities.
After further talk Mr. Montgomery agreed that a letter should be sent to
Council to clear up the ordinance. Mr. Sheridan moved that a letter be
sent to the City Council requesting the City Attorney research Ordinance
83-0-20 to clarify specifically Section 4(a} and 5(a) which address the
manner in which the impact fee monies are to be spent. Mr. Montgomery
seconded the motion, which CARRIED 3-0.
Halloween House
Mr. Garrett thanked the Board for their participation in the Halloween House.
Mr. Jones pointed out that Mr. Garrett put a lot of time into making it a
success. He also asked that a letter be sent to the Ohio Buckeye Club
thanking them for their help. Mr. Garrett said that it brought a lot of
people together and pointed out how successfully his crew worked together
to make for a successful event. It was also felt that a personal letter
of thanks should go to Mrs. Kay Bennington for bringing it to the Board
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and letting it be a part of the-program. I-lr. Montgomery moved that a
letter of thanks be sent to the Buckeye Club, Mrs. Kay Bennington and
a notice of thanks in the newspaper thanking all volunteers and partici-
pants. Mr. Sheridan seconded the motion which CARRIED 3-0.
Christmas tree lighting ceremony
Mr. Montgomery said that he was approached by a resident of Wildwood who
has made a number of tree ornaments for the live Christmas tree. He
asked how this is handled. Mr. Garrett said that in the past the City
provided the electric lights and the youth groups brought in the ornaments.
Mr. Garrett said that this year there was talk of inviting the grade school
children to make ornaments.
Christmas decorations
Mr. Garrett said there are 15 additional pole ornaments for this year
and asked for the Board's recommendation for the placement of these lights.
The members agreed that the new lights should be put at the north end of
the City on U. S. 1, at the light at Park Avenue and on U. S. 1 and the
Indian River Boulevard and asked Mr. Garrett to use his discretion as to
how they should be divided.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Sheridan brought up for discussion the idea of licensing bikes in the
City of Edgewater to help create revenue to help out with bike paths. He
also suggested contacting insurance companies in the area and find out
exactly how many accidents they have had involving bicycles. He said
that if they are paying out large sums of money because of accidents
involving bicycles it might to be to their advantage to accept a tax
on insurance policy premiums which they collect. The amount of money
they would be paying in tax would be far below what they are paying out
in awards if there are bike paths to get people off the streets. It will
not create a whole lot of money, but it will be a beginning. It was his
feeling that if Council sees this happening they will appropriate money
to go along with it.
It was felt that this would help the Police Department to identify stolen
bikes as well as generate revenue for bike paths.
Mr. Jones said that he would like to have more discussion on this when
there is a full Board and after the opiniornof the City Attorney and the
Police Chief have been received. Mr. Sheridan agreed to talk to the City
Clerk and the Police Chief on the matter and report back at the next meet-
ing. He emphasized that this would be an alternate form of funding for
the bike paths.
On another matter, Mr. Sheridan proposed that a brochure be made up listing
every recreation area and park that the City has to~ether with the facilities.
These brochures could be distributed to new residents when they came into
City Hall. Mr. Garrett suggested that they could get together with the
Chamber of Commerce and when they make up new maps this information could
be added. Mrs. Taylor advised that the former Planning Board secretary
was asked to prepare a brochure entitled "All About Edgewater" and there
is a copy of this in the Planning office file. Nothing ever came of this
effort and the brochure was never reproduced. Mr. Sheridan suggested that
the Board be provided with a copy of this and it could be updated. Mr.
Jones mentioned that the new citizens could be asked for their suggestions
for improvements to the area. Mr. Sheridan said the important thing is
community involvement. It was also noted that there is a lot of good
information in the new Chamber of Commerce brochure about Edgewater.
The secretary agreed to bring a copy of both booklets to the next meeting.
Mr. Jones commented that he is concerned about the one board member who
has been unable to attend the regular ',meetings. Hr. Montgomery pointed out
that three unexcused absences is an automatic resignation from the Board.
It was suggested that Mr. Jones talk to Mr. Richards to see if he has lost
interest in the Board. Mr. Sheridan said that this is an active Board and
one of the most necessary Boards the City has and they need full participation
of the members. Mr. Jones agreed to talk to Mr. Richards.
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Mr. Jones said that he has talked to Mr. Owen Davidson of the New Smyrna
Beach Recreation Department concerning Teen Dances. Mr. Davidson said
that they just had a Teen Dance for junior high age children and there
were 45 in attendance. He felt it was successful and they plan to hold
another dance. They also plan to hold dances on the senior high age level.
Mr. Jones said he would follow up on this and come back with more informa-
tion at the next meeting.
MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. Montgomery asked how the plans for the building at the ballfield ar.e
coming along. Mr. Garrett said they are waiting on the School Board.
On the following Monday night they should accept a bid and work can begin.
Regarding the fishing pier at 442 Mr. Garrett said work will begin when
they have received all the permits and the funds from the Port Authority.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Minutes submitted by Joan Taylor
Parks and Recreation Board
November 14, 1984
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