03-02-1989 Special w/Industrial Development Boards of NSB and Edgewater
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
SPECIAL MEETING WITH INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARDS OF
EDGEWATER AND NEW SMYRNA BEACH
MARCH 2, 1989
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Mayor Mitchum called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. in the Community Center.
He stated the purpose was to meet jointly with the Industrial Development Board
per their request.
ROLL CALL (Council)
Mayor David Mitchum
Councilman Dan Hatfield
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilman Russell Gold
Councilman Thomas Fish
Present
Present
Present
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City Attorney Jose' B. Alvarez
City Y~nager William Powers
Acting City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Chief Lawrence Schumaker
Excused
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Present
ROLL CALL (Industrial Development Board)
Florence Baker
Joseph Martin
Dale Andrew
James Baldwin
Vincent Azzarello
Robert Richards
Guy Hanson
Present
Present
Arrived later
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Present
Not Present
Present
Also present were: Ron Wilsbach, New Smyrna Beach Industrial Park Manager; Roland
Smith and Linda DeBorde of the New Smyrna Beach Industrial Board; and Terry Wadsworth,
Utilities Superintendent. Bob Pincus, New Smyrna Beach Industrial Board, arrived later.
Mayor Mitchum suggested Chief Schumaker be excused at this time and no Council
member expressed an o~jection. Chief Schumaker left the meeting.
Mayor Mitchum recessed the meeting at 7:03P.M.toawait the arrival of the Oak Hill
representative. Bob Pincus of the New Smyrna Beach Industrial Board arrived at
the meeting during this recess, and also Dale Andrew arrived during this time.
Mayor Mitchum called the meeting back to order at 7:08 P.M.
Mr. Guy Hanson, Vice-Chairman of Industrial Development Board, thanked Council
for the meeting. He said they wanted to meet everyone and get Council's thoughts
as to their function and direction for the coming year and the Industrial Appreci-
ation Week. He asked Council's input for the appreciation week, and pointed out
the Space Port is important now also.
Councilman Fish stated he'd like to see them attract some light, clean industry
into this area and perhaps more aggressively try to recruit industries such as
electronics, computer engineering firms, and others that will fit in well with
the community and where they don't have to worry about hazardous materials.
He pointed out that with the Space Port nearby, h~d foresee a lot of industries
that will spin off that they'll benefit from. He suggested that Edgewater, New
Smyrna Beach, and Oak Hill work together and in close harmony with the Chamber
of Commerce to try to attract more industries.
Mrs. Baker pointed out that there is a lot of County land and perhaps it could
be a tri-city industrial park. Councilman Fish agreed. Mrs. Baker suggested
they might meet with the County Council to see what land is available for a park.
Mr. Hanson suggested they look at grants.
Mayor Mitchum asked the origination of the New Smyrna Beach Industrial Park.
Mr. Wilsbach explained it was a part of the airport that was a grant of the
military government and it was declared surplus and transferred to the City
of New Smyrna Beach. He pointed out that any property that fronts on the air
field that's determined for industrial development has to be an aviation business
or get a release from FAA, as they're the controlling bodies. He said other
lands in the park are covered by City Codes and calls for light clean industry.
He listed the various industries located there now. Mayor Mitchum asked if the
land is rented to them or purchased. Mr. Wilsbach replied a lot had been sold
off in previous years and they're leaning toward leasing properties, especially
property bordering on or with access to the air field.
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Councilman Hatfield asked how much land is still available and Mr. Wilsbach
replied about 17 acres in the portion they saved to develop and 20 acres on
the other side that will be phase 2, which is the western boundary of the
air field that hasn't been developed. He added that they submitted a master
plan for the air field in September and it hasn't. been approved yet by FAA.
He said they're in the process of closing two of the air fields for financial
reasons which will open up properties and double the amount of acreage available.
Councilman Hatfield asked the total acres and Mr. Wilsbach replied 769 acres.
There was discussion about the FEC industrial park and their interest in devel-
oping. Mr. Hanson stated they'll try to get in touch with FEC to see what their
plans are but they need to know if Edgewater wants to do it themselves or assist
in whatever way with private development. He pointed out they need the tax
base and the jobs, but it's a big undertaking if they want to be in business
as an industrial park. Mrs. Baker noted that the Chamber of Commerce was success-
ful in getting Mr. Jones here and he had a plan for the park but at that time
there was a problem with water. She said she researched this with the former
Mayor and learned there is water available for that park for fire protection.
Councilwoman Bennington said they submitted plans years ago and had them
approved and ready to go. Mrs. Baker said they could invite Mr. Jones down
again and Council may want a representative there.
Mr. Martin reviewed the history of FEC from 1979 through 1988, including the
request for John Street. He pointed out there were some rights of way easements
made available to the City that will expire next year. He noted that there's
another problem with the Land Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan and the
conservation element is involved. Councilwoman Bennington stated that the County
got upset when they found out the industrial park was approved because the
traffic on Park Avenue would hit them. She said she talked to New Smyrna Beach
to see if they could exit on 10th Street and was told no, they didn't want
industrial traffic exiting there. Mr. Martin stated that the County designated
Park Avenue as an arterial street and as minimum two lane with 100' right of way.
Councilman Gold asked if it's land between the college and Park Avenue and Mr.
Martin agreed, adding it's Dale and John Streets.
Mayor Mitchum asked how much of the 769 acres is the actual air port as they have
about 200 acres for FEC. Mr. Martin said it's 288 acres. Mayor Mitchum asked
how much is usable land for industrial. Mr. Wilsbach replied about 100. Mr.
Martin pointed out they'll cause some groundwater problems and they may not be
able to build it up to the density they want. Mayor Mitchum asked Mr. Terry
Wadsworth, Utilities Superintendent, the feasibility of using it and the drainage.
Mr. Wadsworth replied that to certain companies the drainage would be a problem,
and in the Spring last year they met with FEC and people looking at that area,
but with the updated flood maps for that area, that particular company wasn't
interested. He added that if CIP goes through, utilities would not be a problem
but the drainage problems would have to be taken into account.
Councilwoman Bennington asked the function of the New Smyrna Beach Industrial
Board. Mr. Smith, Chairman, replied they advise the City Commission on activities
related to the airport industrial park and visit with clients and try to meet
their needs. Councilwoman Bennington asked if they make their recommendations
to the Commission and Mr. Smith replied to the Airport Industrial Manager and
it goes to the City Clerk for on the agenda. Mayor Mitchum asked how often
they meet and Mr. Smith replied monthly. Mrs. DeBorde said they requested from
their Commission that they not limit them to that piece of land (airport) as
they feel they should be pursuing other good industries that may not fit that land.
Mr. Pincus added that they're looking at other pieces of land for businesses that
aren't suitable to the airport. Mrs. DeBorde stated that New Smyrna Beach doesn't
have much industrial zoned land except the park.
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Industrial Development Boards of
Edgewater and New Smyrna Beach
March-2, 1989
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Councilwoman Bennington asked if they should develop the areas they have
while they're looking for others. Mrs. DeBorde suggested they promote
private industries to develop what's there and zoned. Councilwoman
Bennington pointed out the City has to offer certain things to attract
industries, and they now have the college for training and with the CIP
they should be able to take care of utility facilities, plus the govern-
ment has to be willing to work with larger corporations.
Mrs. Baker reviewed the prior successful Industry Appreciation Week activ-
ities, with the Chamber of Commerce handling it last year. She asked how
they'd like to handle it this year. Councilman Fish asked if the Chamber
is willing to handle it again and Mrs. Baker replied yes. Councilman Fish
stated he had no problem with doing it in cooperation with New Smyrna Beach
and the Chamber of Commerce. Mrs. Baker asked if they had anything special
in mind for this year. She noted that it's in the middle of September,
and the workshop and luncheon was the easiest, but they do need some input.
She added that the three cities participated and paid the bill for the luncheon
for the representatives of industry. Mr. Smith stated that last year's
seminar was a real contribution and it started at 9AM with speakers and then
lunch and other speakers in the afternoon, and they had those recognized for
their contributions to the community as their guests, and the rest were
invited on a dutch treat basis. Councilman Hatfield asked the feedback and
Mr. Smith replied it was most favorable.
Councilman Hatfield asked about the'TIP program. Mrs. Baker replied they'd
received word there'll be a delay because of Dave Richmond's transfer. Mrs.
DeBorde stated they have a meeting next week with Matt Lacey and they're
trying to coordinate it with him and all the County delegates.
Mr. Pincus suggested they look at industries from the County and expand
this way,and reinforce the County's efforts. Councilman Hatfield suggested
they bring Mr. Lacey, who might have some people he'd like to bring, and
let them see we appreciate them.
Councilwoman Bennington suggested they try to get an astronaut if they're
thinking of using the Space Port as a theme this year. There was discussion
of the progress of the Space Port by September. Councilman Hatfield suggested
it could be someone from the State program or from NASA who's dealing with this.
He pointed out it could have gone by the wayside by then. Councilwoman
Bennington stated that the Space Center is still there and a lot of residents
work there. Mrs. DeBorde stated that a lot of their businesses are indirectly
from that. Mr. Smith suggested someone from Lockheed or Martin Marietta.
Councilwoman Bennington suggested Lockheed.
Councilman Hatfield spoke on the seminar in Brevard County regarding bringing
small businesses in. He pointed out that Bob Richards' business relates
to what they do at the Cape. He suggested they let professionals like Mr.
Lacey sell their City to businesses and they pay these professionals and it
would be in their best interest not to conflict. He stated this Board should
advise Council on areas where changes can be made to assist in bringing
businesses in. Mrs. Baker pointed out that Volusia County Business Develop-
ment goes out for large corporations. Councilman Hatfield stated they have
someone who deals with industrial property. Mrs. Baker suggested they not
depend solely on Mr. Lacey. Mr. Andrew suggested they send a positive message
to present businesses and they need to keep traffic off residential streets.
He pointed out they have businesses on India Palm and the road is in very
poor condition.
Councilman Hatfield suggested they have a total package and a stable govern-
ment that's willing to work with industry and they want to see growth and
to provide people with jobs. Mr. Hanson pointed out that the joint meetings
relay the message they're willing to work together, and they may want to meet
more often. He asked for Council input if they have projects they want done.
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Industrial Development Boards of
Edgewater and New Smyrna Beach
March 2, 1989
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Councilwoman Bennington suggested the Board work directly with Land Develop-
ment and Regulatory Agency because they control the zoning and planning and
the Board could tell them what they need to bring industry in which would
affect the zoning areas, permitting, and what's allowed. She suggested the
chairmen of the two boards may want to attend the other's meetings to keep
each board informed.
Mr. Azzarello asked that Council set up guidelines or rules to go by because
they've got a lot of negative feedback about who is to do what. He added
that the City is getting a negative feedback from the newspapers. He said
they need to know if they should wait until someone approaches Council before
they come to them, to avoid stepping on toes. Councilwoman Bennington
suggested they work with LDRA before the person commits any money and LDRA
will advise the zoning and what they have to do to comply. Mr. Azzarello
pointed out there are no set guidelines for people to look at. Councilwoman
Bennington stated it's in the Code book. Mr. Azzarello stated that the City
has a bad attitude about someone coming in to start a business. Councilman
Hatfield replied they're trying to change that and to help businesses locate
in the City.
Councilman Hatfield moved they direct the City Manager to get some feedback
from the various department heads and what would be their ideas to form this
pamphlet and the trouble areas they have and how to al1ievate those and put
them in a pamphlet. Mr. Hanson pointed out that Vo1usia County has a pamphlet.
Councilman Hatfield asked if the businessmen have access to it. Mrs. DeBorde
replied through the Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Hanson stated that for Industry
Appreciation Week and the TIP program, they'll go to the various businesses
and will take them copies. Councilman Hatfield withdrew his motion.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out that building is a primary industry and
they need to recognize the Home Builders Association.
Mayor Mitchum asked how New Smyrna Beach promotes it. Mr. Smith replied they're
in the process of developing a promotion brochure that will list what they
have available. Mayor Mitchum asked the scope of the distribution and Mr.
Smith replied Chamber of Commerce mailings go allover the United States. Mrs.
DeBorde replied it's about 10,000 contacts from the Chamber. Mr. Smith pointed
out you have to tell them Edgewater is interested. He further explained the
items covered in the brochure, such as the airport industrial park, police and
fire, water sport acess, etc. Mrs. DeBorde stated that industry looks for many
things, such as school systems, training programs for employees, costs of housing,
etc. Mayor Mitchum asked if our board thought of mailings and Mr. Hanson said no.
Mr. Martin briefly explained the Board's request to acquire a right of way of
FEC. He said there is an unused right of way and the County had discussed
using it for a Rails for Trails program to make it a nature path. He suggested
the City preserve the right of way, and if FEC wants to sell it, then Edgewater
should get a portion of it because it could provide a right of way for a road to
1-95 and would support heavy rail if they want to put in heavy industry.
Councilman Hatfield noted there's no rail beyond 1-95 and Mr. Martin replied
it's parallel. Mr. Martin suggested they look at the option to buy if they
decide to get rid of it and the County could still put in the Rails for Trails.
Mrs. DeBorde said the Chamber would mail the brochures if they came up with
a light weight fold over. Councilman Hatfield asked to see the one for New
Smyrna Beach as an example.
Mr. Smith spoke briefly on the dissension regarding the Space Port's location.
and suggested they let their legislators know of our interest.
Mayor Mitchum thanked them for participating in the meeting. Councilwoman
Bennington expressed pleasure that the boards are working with them and that
New Smyrna Beach is getting involved. Mrs. DeBorde stated that the sister
cities need to help each other.
Councilman Hatfield moved to adjourn. Councilman Gold seconded the motion.
Meeting was adjourned at 8:13 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
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City Council Special Meeting with
Industrial Development Boards of
Edgewater and New Smyrna Beach
March 2, 1989
Minutes
Lura Sue Koser
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