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02-07-1980 Joint w/Planning Board & Zoning Board , ow CITY OF EDGEWATEll JOINT MEETING 00 INDVSTRIAL PLANNING & ZONING BOARDS February 7, 1980 Mr. Siciliano called the joing meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. at the Shuffleboard Clubhouse. ROLL CALL: Industrial Development Board ~~r. Siciliano Mr. Brogan ~1rs. Mackie Mr. Richardson hIr. I~ane Mr. .Tones Mrs. ~Iassey Mr. Witzig J,lrs. . Drown ~1r. Duby Present Present Present Present Absent Absent Present Present Present Excused Planning Board Mr. Nolan Mr. Macino Mr. Griffith tIrs. '\'ebber Hr. Lodico Mr. Cochran Mrs. Siciliano Mr. Wronial< Mrs. Perozziello l.!rs. Woodard Mr. Hardock Present Excused Present Present Present Present Present Absent Present Excused Excused Zoning Board Mr. 1,Iackie Mr. Siciliano Mr. Engle !'.1r. Opal Mr. Wheeler ~Ir. Bowser ~lr. Troian Present Present Excused Present Present Present Present Also Present: Mr. Eurley j.lr. Webster Ur. Castagnacci Mr. Holohan Mr. Corbett Mr. Badgley Mr. Rotundo f,1r. II erget Mr. Ledpetter Chief Baugh ~\Iayor Christy Mr. Gross Mr. Siciliano stated that this meeting was called to have Mr. Corbett, Florida East Coast Railway, present their intentions on the land that they own in the Korthwest corner of Edgewater. Mr. Corbett gave his presentation. They want to develop this area in a way that would be condusive to the area. They would like to sell this to someone who has an interest in the area. Looking at the map, there was discussion on the location of the access street on this property. He explained that the zoning of this area needs to be such that industry can come in, and he will need to know this zoning in order to inform possible buyers of the land. ()o 00 Mr. Corbett stressed the word cooperate, if the City can zone the property in such a manner that industry can come in, yet a certain industry is not what is wanted in this area it will be stopped. An industry has to have the cooperation of the public or it won't profit. There was mention of the bordering property being zoned commercial as a barrier between the industry and residential. He explained that they want a profitable busi,ness to locate in this area because they will benefit from t~is and so will the City. . Mr. Corbett:st~ted that they will dedicate a right of way' and they request that they be allowed to use the property for the purpose they purchased it, which was to bring industry to the area. Mr. Siciliano a,sked the people who have questions for Mr. Corbett to raise their fands and they will be recognized. Mr. Cochran stated that Mr. Corbett should have checked into the zoning of this property when it was purchased so he would know what he could have put on it. He asked what Mr. Corbett's potential is for reselling this property. He added that the garment industiy was brought up in the present,ation, and this i~ not a pleas~t industry to live near. Also the class of ~eople that th~s will bring into Edgewater has to be taken into consideration. Mr. Corbett had no reply, he stated that this gentleman is obviously against industry. Mr. Walter Gross ,stated that the City of Edgewater is not against growth. He spoke of the paint factory in this City and the fire that occurred recently endangering the lives of the citizens and also the fact that the elementery school is within a couple of blocks of this factory. The people of Edgewater are just being cautious, most of the citizens here are retired. Mr. Lodico spoke that we should not hold this back, we need the industry. Even the retired people living in Edgewater have to go to New Smyrna to do all of their shopping, lets keep that money in Edgewater. Mr. Corbett stated that it is refreshing to see someone who is willing to think of the future. Mrs. Webber asked if there was any more thought of using the May town spur and taking the main line out of the City of Edgewater. Mr. Corbett stated that the decision was made a while back that the May town spur was the most difficult to operate. He added that the railroad is part of the economy of the City of Edgewater, they would like to contribute to the community. Mr. Griffith asked how they would handle the crossings and should this be zoned industrial, how would they handle the spurs corning in to the warehouses? ~lr. Corbett could not give a specific answer to this. He gave SOJTle examples; such as Scotty's, to show how this has been done. As far as the crossings are concerned, no crossing can be put in without the lights and the bells and gates. Mr. Opal asked what Mr. Corbett would like the rest of his property zoned, with the exception of the property that he mentioned before that he would like to have cornrnercial. -2- ,->0 00 4 Mr. Corbett s~ated that they would like it to be the most lenient' as ppssible, so that the industry can be beneficial. There was disbusslon about the road that is to be deqicated ~o the City. Mr. S~ciliano showed the map, trying to explain exactly wherej this roacl will be. ~~ j.,i : J Mr. RichardsQ~ asked if he intends to sell. 9r lease this property? Does FloridajEast;!Coast have any perimeter~,on rrcinimum or maximum tonage befor1ithe~ sell? ~ Mr. Corbett ~iate~ that they will sell or lease, and they cannot require a ce~tain:~onage. ~They do. evaluate the_products as to how r::uch wil~4 be shipped by:orai}, and whai;,-:type of material Will' . go, either lityUid~';or Wood,~:e.t~,:~' ,._,,~'~:.~ ;-"~ '-.:.. :;",,:.>.'.:'./'.:.. Mr. lii tzig a~~ed ~f they ptan=-~o -put:~up::tiiiTdings ""or is thiEtt.O:,::':'::: .::.:.... be just a 1 aIi{l. salce. c.. .-==0 . :~- ~"" ~""I~ . <'-:-'</"'- il ,~. - .. ~~.." .~~ ~.., .:';., . Mr. Corbett ~tated that they -will be selling the property fo~.,a... .<~ .,,:: specific meaq~.Once this is zoned they will-start putting in ~.~. '. line of cite~j ...'. :..... ';. .' 1 :.- ""; .- '-~=f-: .~ ~_... -1! _ _ ...: ".". :- There was discussion about howO;long it would be that this area..:' ""~:"'.'-: . . . . would have t~t act=Ual industry after the properties were sold. " ." _ Mr. John Gros~ stated that he feels that we should knock out the road~ay idea:~ He went on to explain that we have a new school. going up in ~l].is area. He feels that a light industry should be.. considered here with a residential area also. Perhaps a special ordinance could be written up to protect everyone involved. ; . ; J 1 1 11 I f i. i 1 i .. 1. j . , J '.I ; ;; . J~ , , I ] Mr. liolan asked Mr. Corbett if he was familiar with the Comprehen- sive Plans that the Cities in the County are now working on. Mr. Corbett stated that he is aware of this but not in detail. Mr. Kolan explained that the area directly of this right of way that is proposed falls in line with the concept of the plan as far as light industry. The area west of this does not. comply witb this. He explained that the plan of the City of Edgewater is based on controlled growth, which will enhance the. life style and economy -in the City. The Industrial Board will see that all industry will be synonimous to the needs of the community. The concern is about the area west of this right of way; this is now zoned agricultural. He feels that this should be discussed more in detail. There was discussion with Mr. Corbett about this, and then also discussion about the road. Mr. Siciliano used the map and explained the reason for choosing this road; this is the only way the railroad can get into Park . Ave~ue without going to New Smyrna Deach. Mr. Gross stated that he would like to point out that it is not necessary for the road to be there. He added that he is going to fight the heavy industry. Mr. Griffith asked if the zoning problem was solved, how soon could a person plan to put industry in there? Mr. Corbett answered that it would take approximately thirty days. Mr. Cochran spoke on the access roads to this property. It v.as explained that the County intends to extend Tenth Street -3- I . . i i I 1 i ~. ! j - i- 1 .i'" _~ .i -T ~ . i J !, .. ,. I . 1. , ~ J . j '. j :J. ~ I }- ~ ..i . . ., ~ -: ,->0 00 " as an arterial road through Mission Road to Highway 44. This is one way out of ~ here:. ,~ " ___~_ ~ -""- _ _ -.;,. ~ There was discussio-n about the -'b'ridge in this area . Mayor Christy ~1 . - ~ .3. ~ - . explained thatjthe County wil1..._Ilp:t"..take, any responsibility as far as this bridge~on Tenth Street ~iE;"'concer'ned~;'~~' ..1 -"'.: :~ ~r. Nolan went50ver the map poin~ing out the entire area that is in discussion &xplalning the~zon~ng?the ~roposedroad and the requested rezo~ing.' lie adde~ that what they are asking is con- dusive to the Gomprehensive ~lan~ He also stated that the Plan- ning Board is gpposed to heayy'~}ndus!ry."~,~;.?~, " -~, _:. ...-~-= .~::. - ~. ~ -"- ':.,.. ~ i - - ...~ Mr. Gross aSke~ a f~w other ':~ue~l tb.ns~~' =...:_~;~~ -- ""- : -~ -, ';< . .-.:~'~'.... It was explained that the Council has. ordlIfances whichwill.':"r~9't~ict ' certain types df industry in~:ce:rtain areas.~.There- is a m,~th~d:,'O'.f.. ' ..1 ~~ ---+,;....:...:-. ~%:.1_.......;.... _ -:. ."' ...... . control.:l _, - . . _, . '. '.<<;~: .', :l __ _:_~~~-:.; ~~~~:-T~~~~~~~~~::~;~~~;: _ - .-- ..-; ".:.-. Mr. Nolan expl~inedc- that thei~:':-i.~~:an:.agreerrtent with New.smy'rha:;~,>'- ;:: on the boundar:lles, ~nd it was:~-ag~eed th-at v.;e ~wouTd' ':all '-SIt-down.. -_ . and dicusss i t_ibefore any zoiring':.:ochanges =a:ffecting-'=these:'-a're::t:s.."; "'_ ~ ' ' . . ". .. takes place. ~i - ~"'-s~-_ ~ "-c_~.~~._?,' ',_ ::....",~'. '.. .:. . ....-;... the boards 'wan~-tc),:-s~~";', The boards should-"}()ok" _,.' ?ir. Mackie broJght up the fa(ft'-_a~ain:that the proper bus~nesses come into the City. into this in itis entirety. . . ;". ".":":" - . . . . -' There was discussion again about the road right of way that"is'~: '. proposed. Mr. Corbett stated that their proposal was that as':,. a measure to enable the City' to ego ahead promptly with their - access to this bigh school, we will give the'right of way as a contribution with the expectations that the City will provide their own road. The other condition being that the.property be used for industry. At this time Mr. Corbett thanked the board members for allowing him to make this presentation. ~.!r. Siciliano asked all of the board members to remain for a few minutes. The first matter of business is the selection of the Sub-Committee;' - . },~r. Hurley explained that these committees are being formed t'c:>':"" review the existing Zoning Ordinances and Subdivision regulations:~ V:e already have some of these committees established, tonight we',". Leed to get two members from the Planning Board and two members from the Industrial Board to review the existing Zoning Ordinance. t'e also need one member from the Planning Board to review the Eubdivision regulations. ~!r. Richardson and Mr. Witzig volunteered from the Industrial Board to review the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Cochran and Mr. Macino were appointed to review the Zoning Ordinance, from the Planning Board. Mrs. Siciliano was appointed as the Planning Board member to review the Subdivision regulations. The Industrial Board members were excused at this tiffie. ~r. Siciliano explained that the Zoning Board has reviewcid site plans from Mr. Pilch and Mr. Webster Mr. Nolan explained that the first site plan is Mr. Pilch's. -4- yO, 00 00 c:: er- r'..;. _ ~.- ~- - ~. ~-- ~ ,_. -'- ~-"~'~"'i7 '-~.~. J..:.:: -. ,.-:'=~~.' This is a site plan for a single family residence in a B-4 !:f ~L~ ~.:!: ::;':;,,:~ .~ ~ ,District. The building official has approved the plan and l~ ~l:~gi-:~~,_ ,this. complies with the Ordinances of the City. :..-, ....'l:,.~..- "_ ~ --:~~;~~,f~ ~ ;,:';':-~F}~ .~~' The board members looked over the site plan. ~:'~''::! 'i.. _~.- Mr. Lodico stated :~~:~:~~~:;;J~rll~~e i ~o:~~ ''':-:.'r;.!:~'-~::';- -~- ~~ ;:"".-'~-'''.' S"--;:.:JL ~:_~..::~~~;; Mr..:;. Nqlan .stated that the Planning Board has a meeting this ~:L7.-r-:-;?-"':.c: week~'and he will make a statement at that time and he thinks 7' ;.::-:-"":;:r;;.. .;;,";:':., "- _. .. . ~;:~'7:.;--'" _'~ "..-that 1.t w111 clear th1s up. ~ ""1,. 'Jt.c;~,..... .;~;.._ ,. .' ~~~1~~#;~~~k~,to the site .plans. ~2i~:~ic;~~~~"'":Mrs~~'~fSrciliano made -a motion to approve the site plan for the ~~;~~.;::'- Cameron property (Pilch) being seconded by Mrs. Perozziello. ~.'"::"~'-4~\v ".;. tThe motion CARRIED 7-0. -~ -:':'~~~' .~-:-=- -;.: that he heard that when the special meeting because someone in particular wanted to members were not given this person's name. .... _..- - - ~ -:1-"- . :~ ::- -:,-"--== "~ .. .".. ~"~',c - ~ Mr. Webster presented his site plan. ; ~~-'~ ~...1~ ~ '~~~.~~~~- ~The'board members ~ooked this 'over and discussed it. -.~.~ '~ -.- ~: Mrs. Webber made a motion to table this until we find out if we need a lift station. A certified engineer needs to decide that, being seconded by Mr. Cochran. Said motion DIED 2-5. .... .. .. ...-....;.. ..; .".'-";: -lL- ..... . ~,ol": Mr. Lodico made a motion that we go ahead and approve the site ~an with the condition that a qualified engineer check it and certify that our sewer lines are adequate and also that the contractor install street lights, being seconded by Mr. Cochran. The motion CARRIED 6-1. Mrs. Webber voting No. Mr. Orrell's site plan was presented. Mr. Lodico made a motion to table this until the next meeting, being seconded by Mr. Perozziello. The motion CARRIED 4-3. Mr. Griffith made a motion to adjourn, being seconded by Mr. Lodico. The motion CARRIED, meeting adjourned. Chairman Minutes submitted by: Debbie Sigler -5- ,,;