01-05-1976 - Agenda Meeting
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AGENDA MEETING
JANUARY 5, 1976
Acting Mayor Ryta Webber called the Agenda Meeting to order on January 5, 1976 at
7:30. In The Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Dana T. Armstrong
Acting Mayor Ryta Webber
Councilman Wm. H. Carnie
Councilman Walter B. Sikes
Councilman Calvin R. Deitz
City Attorney Joseph E. Weaver
City Clerk Sue Blackwell
Acting Cheif Norman McCall
Absent
Present
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Pres net
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BILL AND ACCOUNTS
City Clerk Sue Blackwell read the Bills And Accounts.
General Fund
Mr. Carnie asked about what the bill for Gasoline Alley was for. Mrs. Blackwell
stated it was for installing something but she could not read it the bill was for
$60.80. Mr. Deitz read the bill it was for installing air coupling. 30.80 for
part and $30.00 for labor. Councilman Carnie stated that the question he had was
that he thought that this work was suppose to be done out at the City Garage.
The reason that it was done at Gasoline Alley was because that it had to do with
the air conditioner in 301.
Mrs. Webber asked what the City used for heat. Mrs. Blackwell stated that it was
gas. South Florida Natural Gas.
Water & Sewer
There was some discussion on the sound system in the Community Center. There was
a gentleman from the public who stated that there should be some money spent to
improve the sound system so the public may be able to hear what the Council is
talking about.
Some of the bills that have been over looked from October were discussed.
Mr. Gross stated that these bills that you are talking about should have had a
work order. He also stated that this Council does'nt:knowanything about this and
they should.
City Clerk Blackwell stated that we have three sets of Minutes December 11, 22, and
31. 1975. Also Certification on those, Second reading on two Ordinances on the
retirement age and also on the Cable T.V., She also stated that she had one thing
that was tabled on the Enviormental Protection, Mr. Christy letter on the first
aid kit a memo has been put out to all department heads. So far the only one that
has responded on this was the Police Department. The CPR Training, They are
working on the seiren. Mr. Christy was to work with the department heads on the
First Aid review. Everyone is aware of the Chlorine leaks at the water plant.
Also tabled was a letter from the Library from Mrs. Mackie,
There was some discussion on the addition to the Library. The Library's request was
for $10,000.00. They were going to use $3,000.00 of their own money. Mr. Carnie
stated that this should be reversed around so that the Library should use the $3,000.00
for furnishings. This means asking the Council for the whole $13,000.00 for this
adddition. January 15, 1976 is the dead line for knowing if we get these funds.
Councilman Deitz stated that at the Meeting Thursday night that the City Clerk have
a report to see if we have this money. City Clerk stated that she could not certify
this money she stated that you would have to apporition your budget before she could
certify money for this. This was discussed further. The resolution will be set up
for Thursday night's meeting. This will be placed on the agenda.
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Mr. Martinis letter on the speed limit on Riverside Dr. was also
Acting Cheif was to reserch this. City Clerk Blackwell Stated.
that he recommended that the speed limit on Riverside Dr. should
the way through. This will be placed on the Agenda. Tbere was
discussion on this speed limit.
There was some discussion on the speed limits in Fla. Shores. There is an Ordinance
that states the speed limit in the City of Edgewater.
tabled. The
Acting Chief stated
be 25 m.p.h. all
a little more
The Policy on the use of the City Car. There was some discussion on the use of the
City car. This will be placed on the agenda.
This car can be used by any City executive as long as it is on City Business.
Mr. Christy asked if he would be able to use this car. The Council stated No.
There was also some talk about the radio that was in this car. Acting Mayor
Webber stated that this will be discussed in more detail at the Thursday nights
meeting.
City Clerk Blackwell stated that the last thing that she had tabled from the
last meeting was the discussion on the Building Official. Councilman Deitz
stated that he and Mr. Loeffler had gone over all the applications that they had
for the Building Official IS position. Councilman Deitz stated that Mr. Loeffler
and himself have come to a understanding that we will need two men for a Building
Inspector and all that we would need to supply them with would be a office and
supplies. They will do all work that a Building Official would be required to do.
One was a Charles Murphy. Mr. Deitz went on to give his qualifications. The
Council went on to discuss Mr, Murphy.s qualifications. Mr. Loeffler will take care
of the Electrical part of the inspecti~ns. This will be placed on the Agenda for
Thursday night. There was some discussion on how much time we need to let
the County know that we will not need them. Councilman Deitz stated that he would
like to instruct the Attorney to draw up a Ordinance setting forth the duties of
this position. The contract should be left open. Attorney Weaver stated that
Councilman Deitz can not do this instructing him to draw up this Ordinance at a
Agenda Meeting it can only be done at a Regular Meeting. This will be placed on the
agenda.
There was a question from the public asking if the inspectors will supply their own
car. Councilman Deitz stated that they will supply their own car. They will be
set up as a independent contractor. Mr. Weaver will look into this and get back
to the Council Thursday night. .
City Clerk Blackwell stated that a young lady came into her office from the News
Journal Corp. on January 25, 1976 they are going to publish a special bicentinal
p~per and they would like to know if we are intrested in advertising. Mrs. Blackwell
wlll need the ok from the Council to do this. Acting Mayor Webber stated that we
should do something really nice for the Bicentinal Year. We are a small City and
we should do something that will really stand out. There was some discussion on
the forth of July Celebration this year. Mr. Deitz stated that he talked to his
son who is the Captianof the Fire Department and he thought it to be a good idea to
dress up.as Bicentinal this year the fire works are suppose to be twice a big this
year.Actlng Mayor Webber stated that we firnd out how much it will cost to do this
with the paper. This was discussed more. She stated that she would like to see
something more perment then this. THis will be brought up on Thursday.
The Cheif of the Fire Department stated that we have already spend $3,000.00 this
year on.fire works and this will be one of the biggest day of the year.These fire
works wlll be shown all day on the 4th of July, also night. He also corrected Mr.
Deitz that his son is the Asst. Chief not the Captain. The Fire Department will
be dressed in ReVOlutionary Uniforms.
Th~ Volunteer Rescue Emergency requests to use the Community Center and the Park and
Pelr of Saturday February 14, 1976 for a Health Aware Day. This was from Patrica
Goodson Sectrary. This will be placed on the agenda.
Mr. Christy went on to descuss what would be going on this day.
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City Clerk Blackwell stated that on January 7,1976 at 4:00 till 7:00 Mr. Christy
would like you all to come and give blood.
City Clerk read a letter from Mr. Christy about the Standard First Aid he will have
classes starting January 19, 1976. Those who wish to attend must have their names
in by January 16, 1976. The applications can be gotten at the Edgewater Police Dept.
Class will start 7:00 P.M. to 10:00 P.M. Mondays and Wednedays. In order to
get a certificate you must attend 98% of the classes.
City Clerk read a letter from W.M.Bostwick Jr. Water Engineer of the Department of
Enviorment Regulations. The letter was concerning the chlorine leak reported by
Mr. Patrick Wilson. Councilman Carnie asked if Mr. Wilson worked for the State of
Florida or the City. _..Mr. ..Garole..:= thought this letter should come from the office
not Mr. Wilson. Mr. Deitz stated that Mr. Armstrong instructed Mr. Wilson to write
the letter. Councilman Sikes stated that he thought that it was a good idea that
someone does report these things. The Council got a copy of this report. There
was some discussion between Mr. Opel and Mr. Deitz. This type of information
should come from the Supertindent not the employee. There was more discussion on
this. Councilman Deitz stated that the City of Edgewater is suppose to have class
C operators on duty seven day a week. We have not done this yet. We only have 1
Class C Operator. Acting Mayor Webber stated that we should advertise for this now.
This should be correct. This will be placed on the Agenda Thursday night to advertize
for a Class C Operator. This went on to be discussed.
City Clerk read a official call from the Enviormental Regulations. A Short School
will be held February 11,12,13 in Ocala. The Ramada Inn. SponsQred by Redigional
9 Fla. of the Florida Water and Pollution Control Operators of Florida. She
went on to read the letter. Does not need to be placed on the Agenda.
City Clerk Blackwell read a letter from Mr. A. Sinkovich, The St. Jons District has
scheduled a workshop session to explain the update on the Enviormental Regulations.
A copy of the Workshop agenda was atteched to the letter. January 16. 1 :00 to 5:00 P.M.
Municipal Courtroom Orange Ave. and Nova Road Daytona Beach. This does not need to
be placed on the agenda.
City Clerk Blackwell read a letter from the Board of Adjestments. Mr. James R.
Craig requested a varance to construct a garage. There was a motion made by the
Board to grant Mr. Craig his varance. This is on Merrimac.
City Clerk Blackwell asked if everyone had their copies of the Briley Wild Letter.
City Clerk Blackwell read a letter from Jim McDogel thanking Officers Kelley and
Realmuto for their help when he was disable at the shuffle board court. on
December 18, 1975. Acting Mayor Webber wanted to add something to this she stated
that she had two dogs and one had bit his way out of the fence and a peice of the
wire went through his eye she called the police dept. and she wanted to thank Lt.
McCall and Office Page for this fine job they did to free her dog. Councilman Sikes
also added that we get these types of reports all the time about our Police Dept.
Mr. Christy stated that these men should be awarded for their fine work.
There was some discussion on Office Tillison living out at the Barn.
Mr. Katez stated that Mr. Tillison had plans on leaving out there before Mayor
Armstrong came into office. Mr. Katez stated that you should nave=Officet~Tillison
come in here and talk for him self and answer some of these question.~
There was some discussion on these citations that are being awarded to these officers.
Mr. Gross stated that there should be some type of grievence committee. Acting Mayor
Webber stated that our Merit board is suppose to be a grievence board. The Council
is going to meet with them the 14th of January and discuss these things with them.
There was a question from the office asking how many of our officers are quilified to
give oxygen to people. Acting Mayor stated she did not know.
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City Clerk Blackwell stated that on February 2. Mr. Mason will be in the Community
Center, he is with the National Flood Control Insurance he will be putting on a
seminar and has invited the Council, Planning Board, and any intrested citizens.
There will be slides and so on. This will be at 7:30.
City Clerk read a letter from the Enviormental Regulations. Regarding Land spreading
of waste water. We will write and tell them what is going on now.
City Clerk Blackwell stated that Mr. Christy has been working on a Resolution for
applying for the L.E.A.A. Fund we have been approved for $13,000.00 but when we
got to digging we found that nothing has been done on it as yet. Mr. Christy went
on to discuss this. It was asked what this money can be spent for Mr. Christy stated
the Police Department. Mr. Katez spoke on this same matter. Acting Mayor Webber
stated that this should be placed on the agenda. .
Mrs. Blackwell stated to the COuncil does the Council want anything put on the agenda
about the speaker system here in the Community Center. Yes.
City Clerk Blackwell stated that she had given everyone in the Council a list of
the applicants for the Police Chief. t1r..: Weaver..stated_,that when City Clerk Blackwell
calls these applicants ask them if they will be- agreeable t9 attend a 'Public Meeting
This will be placed on the agenda. This was discussed.
Mr. Gross asked to have Mr. Katez reinstated. He also would like this placed on the
agenda. Councilman Carnie stated that only the Council can make a request to have
this placed on the agenda.
Mr. Katez asked Mr. Weaver about the people applying for the Police Chief position
from out of stated this was answered. Mr. Weaver stated that if the Council does
pick someone from out of state they will have to be certified. This was discussed
further.
There will be a background check made on the Police Chief.
Mr. Gross asked if any of the Council will put the reinstatment of George Katez back
on the agenda. Mr. Deitz stated that this would be contrary to all the work that we
have done. Acting Mayor Webber stated that we are doing this in a very fair way we
are giving each applicant a fair evaluation. Mrs. Opel asked why don't we give Mr.
Katez another chance. State of Florida will give the last say so to see if the man
we pick is qualified.
There was some discussion on the applications and how that we are going to interview.
Councilman Sikes asked if there would be any way to have these six men come to the
first part of the meeting and talk to them. Mr. Weaver stated that it was legal to
have these men come to the Council meeting and then we can all talk to them.
Mr. Katez asked Acting Mayor Webber if his name was on this list. She stated that
it was. She also added that all council members went and studied each application
and then voted. City Clerk Blackwell stated that each Councilman and Councilwoman
went over each of these and they had no idea how many of the other members voted
until tonight. Mrs. Blackwell went on to say that she typed the number that was on
the application the name and a X for each one that the COuncil voted for. Mr. Katez
asked if his name was considered by each on of the Council. She stated that it was
on the list. Councilman Deitz stated that Mr. Katez got one vote. that was one
person out of five councilmen. He stated that in other words he is not even being
considered any more. The answer to this was that he did not have ~but:.Qne vote.
Mrs. Opel asked who many men did each Councilmen have it broke down to. Mr. Sikes
stated 8, Mr. Deitz 12, also , Mr. Carnie 12 the Mayor 5, Mrs. Webber 13.
Mr. Katez asked that back in 1970 when he came up for Patrol did Mr. Deitz vote for
him or not. Mr. Detitz stated that alot of water has gone under the damn since 1970
and he can not answer that fairly. Mr. Katez stated that Mr. Deitz was the only one
that voted no. Mr. Deitz asked him why did he ask if he already knew. I went
through these applications and judged these men by their qualifications not their
personalities. By looking at this list he stated that all the Council did the same.
When these man come in we can get their permission to do a background check on them.
City Clerk Blackwell stated that this was all she had.
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Mr. Weaver stated that he will have a resolution for the Library Board.
Councilman Deitz stated 2 ordinance will be on the agenda. This is for the second
reading.
Also find out when are we going to get the audit.
Mr. Carnie stated that he had something from the Planning Board, they stated that they
need 2 more members. This will be placed on the agenda. Councilman Detz stated that
he thought they wanted more than 2. Mr. Carnie stated just 2. The reason being that
they are planning on setting up different committees and this will be a must. Mr. Deitz
added again that he thinks that they want more than 2. He also added that they should
pick their own members and leave politics out of it and get members that will work
together. This will be placed on the agenda. Mr. Warton stated that the board
should look around for these members that will work with the board.
Mrs. Webber stated that she would like to know when something is going to done about
the sea wall at the park and peir. She wanted to know what had happen ..to the sand
bags that were left over from the sea wall. Something has to be done with this. It
can be very dangerous. Mr. Carnie stated that he will take Mr. Martine and show him
what needs to be done. .
Mr. Weaver has filed for the bond validation.
Councilman Carnie made a motion to adjourn being seconded by Councilman Deitz.
ADJOURN
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