07-20-2009 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 20, 2009
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas
Councilwoman Debra Rogers
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilman Ted Cooper
City Manager Tracey Barlow
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel
Assistant City Attorney Michael Ciocchetti
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present
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Excused
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There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting of May 18, 2009
City Clerk Wenzel pointed out on page 19 of the minutes,
the word site should be cite.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve the May 18, 2009 minutes
as presented, second by Counci~woman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DON
ATIONS
A. Presentation of plaque to Jeanne DelNigro for
Ben's services on City Boards
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Mayor Thomas read a plaque for Ben DelNigro's service on
City Boards. He then presented the plaque to Mr.
DelNigro's wife, Jeanne DelNigro.
B. Introduction of Nancy Freeman; Florida Inland
Navigation District (FIND) representative for
Volusia County
Nancy Freeman, FIND representative, spoke of being the
County's Representative to the Florida Inland Navigation
District.
Ms. Freeman stated she has already spoken with City Manager
Barlow on some matters that are coming up. She is
available and very willing to work with Edgewater and the
rest of Volusia County on any of those issues. They had
their biggest meeting of the year last month in Brevard
County where they reviewed 68 applications for assistance
for grants under the Waterway Assistance Program. There
were six grant requests from Volusia County.
Mayor Thomas stated Ms. Freeman was our State Farm business
owner here in Edgewater for a long time. The Governor of
the State of Florida appointed Ms. Freeman to this
position. He is honored and it makes him proud that she is
a resident of Edgewater. He thanked her for her time.
C. Presentation of plaque to CAPS by Chief Bennett
Mayor Thomas informed Council that Captain David Arcieri
would be making the presentation. He then congratulated
Captain Arcieri for his promotion to Captain.
Captain Arcieri identified the first plaque as being for
the participation in the Special Olympics. It was awarded
to the Police Department and the CAPS for all the
participation and everything they did to make that event a
success.
Captain Arcieri commented on the second plaque being from
the Police Department to the Edgewater Police volunteers
Association for their generosity in sponsoring their
Officer of the Year Award. They just had their 2008
Officer of the Year luncheon and that would not have been
possible without the generous donation made by the
Volunteers Association. The plaques were presented to
Community Service Officer & CAPS member David Soltz.
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Councilwoman Bennington stated the money that the CAPS
raise mostly comes from the House Watch Program when people
go on vacation. City Manager Barlow commented on this
being another fine example of the volunteers that
contribute and make a difference within our community.
D. Proclamation supporting the U S Census Bureau for
the 2010 Census
Mayor Thomas read the proclamation supporting the U S
Census Bureau for the 2010 Census. It's paramount that
they do this.
Jose Martinez, U S Census Bureau, showed a DVD presentation
and thanked the Mayor and Council for partnering with them
in order to make sure they get an accurate and complete
count in Edgewater. He spoke of this being mandated by the
Constitution that they take a census every ten years on
years ending in zero. It is of the utmost importance that
they make sure they count everybody because missing people
will mean missing dollars and these people will still be
making an impact. They need to make sure they are counted.
Councilwoman Bennington stated the Census also affects them
directly because they do their voting districts by the
Census.
Mayor Thomas stated New Smyrna only has 300 residents above
us. When they go to the VCOG it's how much clout and
Edgewater is a growing City. We are like the sixth largest
city in Volusia County. We are growing and we need to have
that clout. He encouraged people to not be bypassed in the
Census.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Bill Glaser, 1703 Needle Palm Drive, asked if the residents
are permitted to ask questions of City employees about City
business on the street or through e-mail. City Manager
Barlow informed him yes. Mr. Glaser asked if there is a
protocol in order to get an answer to their question.
Councilwoman Bennington thought the Department Head should
be whom he would direct his question to. Mr. Glaser stated
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he asked a question on June 28th and he hasn't received an
answer.
City Manager Barlow stated he routinely responds and he did
receive Mr. Glaser's e-mail but it has been a lower
priority based on everything else that has come about. He
recalled Mr. Glaser wanting him to ask the City Attorney to
clarify a section of the Code as to what he interpreted.
Mr. Glaser informed him it was the second question, which
was something is done by a City employee took two days
sitting in a City pickup truck.
City Manager Barlow referred his question to the City Clerk
because he believed he was requesting a record.
City Clerk Wenzel stated the record was provided by Mayor
Thomas to Mr. Glaser.
Mr. Glaser stated the question was since this was a task
directed by an elected official of the City, he asked if
this record should be a public record and reside at City
Hall rather than at the Mayor's residence. City Manager
Barlow stated it could be. He didn't know the legalities
there.
Mr. Glaser stated Mayor Thomas gave him a 3 X 3 piece of
paper with some figures scribbled on it and he didn't know
where the figures came from. It took him six questions to
find out that the guy that did the survey used tally
counters to count the traffic. He assumed somebody took
those numbers off the tally counters and put them on a
piece of paper. He wanted to know if the numbers on that
piece of paper were the true numbers that were taken by the
guy that did the traffic survey.
Steven Zarrelli, 3403 Juniper Drive, stated he had spoken
to Councilman Cooper about a week or two ago and he was
trying to do some research with Florida Power & Light and
their so-called solar power energy reassurance. They had a
gentleman come out and he did a survey of his home. He
spoke of this being very disconcerning. He was informed if
he stayed in the home for 25 years he would make some
money. The problem is that the system is going to cost
between $30,000 and $40,000. He thought that was way off.
He started doing some research on the Internet and he is
looking into a few corporations that can get him some new
updated schematics and layouts of current existing solar
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property or solar systems, active or passive. He is
looking for more corporations that do this as well as to
find out what the City of Edgewater would be doing if they
are running power lights or lighting for baseball fields or
tennis courts as to how much money they can get back from
Florida Power & Light. He is trying to utilize what is
best for the City. The frustrating thing for him is he
really didn't get a positive answer from FP&L. It looks
like the only way they are going to get this accomplished
is to take the ball and run with it themselves. He
commented on the research he has been doing on corporations
and spoke of finding out that two companies in Colorado
really weren't companies. He is trying to get his money
back for the products he tried to purchase. There are a
lot of scams out there. They have to be very careful. He
is looking into new solar systems and new upgrades that not
only the City can use but the resident person can use as
well.
Councilman Cooper commented on Governor Christ putting out
a program with quite a bit of money for partnering up with
FP&L and energy based companies throughout the State of
Florida. They were pushing solar because that is the most
economic here in Florida. He spoke of getting the run
around and they were all saying astronomical amounts of
money. This technology has been paid down for a long time
now. It is going to take a small businessman to start up
his own solar panel company and prepare it in the areas.
There are laws on the books that were passed during
Reagan's era that FP&L would have to honor. They had hoped
to put the City on it but even better they wanted to put
blocks of communities on it and get this grant money that
is still just sitting there. He spoke of FP&L having to
buy the energy back. It is stuff they really should be
looking at. He was hoping Mr. Zarrelli would be starting a
company like that and he wished him all the success in the
world.
City Manager Barlow commented on meeting with a consultant
and providing some preliminary information to him. He is
supposed to give a price and come in to do an energy
conservation survey for efficiencies here within all the
City facilities as well as look at opportunities for the
alternative energy. We are waiting for a response from him
as far as the cost to do the survey itself.
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Dominic Capri a , 606 Topside Circle, stated he is very
disappointed when someone gets up to make comments and the
bell rings at three minutes with no one answering the
question that was asked, except for some people. He feels
this is a big problem. He commented on the people getting
totally disgusted.
5. APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
City Manager Barlow stated staff would like to pull Item BE
and will reschedule it at a later time.
6. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Cooper stated the MPO doesn't meet in July. He
updated Council on the meeting in June where the Census was
the main topic.
Councilman Cooper commented on the WAV meeting he attended
for the Mayor. He spoke of the County imposing two day
watering for everybody outside the chartered areas. They
are going to impose it with fines. City Manager Barlow
confirmed with Environmental Services Director Brenda
Dewees that they were going to allow potable water for two
days and reclaimed water for three days. Ms. Dewees
confirmed that was correct.
Councilman Cooper commented on multiple meetings with the
noise abatement problem. He mentioned citizens bringing up
the issues of the noise at the airport and the planes doing
touch and gos at Massey Airport. The FAA has their
controls. Once a plane is off the ground there isn't much
they can do. The flight schools are coming together to
come up with a uniform code. They are hoping to get better
control that way.
Councilman Cooper reported on the YMCA meeting he attended
last month. They are still looking for members.
Councilwoman Rogers had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Bennington asked if they could please notify
the newspapers that they could be held liable for
littering. Her husband had a run in with somebody
delivering and they didn't know anything about it. They
were from the Hometown News and made the comment that
somebody should have notified the paper. She asked that
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all the papers be sent a letter and make it official so
everybody can say they have been notified.
City Manager Barlow agreed to send them a letter and
thought she put them on notice this evening as the News
Journal and Observer representatives were at the meeting.
Councilwoman Bennington thought they already had but the
information is not getting to the carriers.
Councilwoman Bennington thanked the Fire Department for the
wonderful 4th of July. The fireworks were spectacular and
the whole day was a success.
Councilwoman Bennington then thanked the CAPS for the job
they do. She doesn't think the people realize the burden
they take off the police by doing the amount of work that
they do. They need volunteers too. If anybody wants to
join they are more than happy to accept applicants.
Councilwoman Bennington asked someone to please oil the
Mayor's chair because of it squeaking.
Mayor Thomas stated at the last VCOG meeting he
presented with a thank you from the United Way.
the City employees give a lot to the United Way
proud of them for doing that.
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Mayor Thomas also commented on the fireworks. It was an
awesome display. It was done by public donations. He
asked if they had a report as to if they made any money.
City Manager Barlow stated he received a request from the
Association for a donation to help offset some of the cost.
It was a very successful event. The coordination by the
Fire Rescue Association and a contribution of all the
citizens and businesses alike within the Southeast Volusia
area made it happen this year.
Mayor Thomas commented on the flaws with the boat ramp at
Kennedy Park. He reported that they have all been
corrected. He has been patrolling the boat ramp. He
further commented on the corrections that were made. It
was done two days later and he was proud of the City
employees for doing that.
Mayor Thomas stated our ballfields are immaculate. They
are the best ballfields he has ever seen in his life. They
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just hosted a countywide tournament and they are also
hosting the sectionals. The City employees do such a good
job. He felt if people haven't seen them they need to.
Mayor Thomas stated last week they had information given by
the Marine Science Center. He was contacted by the
Director a couple of months ago and they did a presentation
and it is really informative. Because the presentation was
supposed to be an hour but only turned out to be a half
hour, he would like for them to do a presentation at a
Council Meeting.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Satisfaction of Mortgage - Approval and
authorization for the Mayor and City Manager to
execute the Satisfaction of Mortgage for
Edgewater Industrial Park, LLC and the Warranty
Deed transferring mineral rights that were
previously omitted
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion that they accept the
Satisfaction of Mortgage, second by Councibnan Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 1st Reading, Ordinance No. 2009-0-05, Amending and
Restating Chapter 12.5 (Parks and Recreation) of
the Code of Ordinances
Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti read Ord. 2009-0-05 into
the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper thought the public might want to give
feedback on opening up the parks on Riverside for animals.
Councilwoman Bennington informed him just dogs. City
Manager Barlow also confirmed it was leashed dogs.
Councilman Cooper commented on the concern they had of
people picking up after their dogs.
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Councilwoman Bennington asked why they are deleting a lot
of by-laws out of the ordinances. City Manager Barlow
explained that by-laws are traditionally adopted by
resolution. These give direction to the board on how they
act verses a law on the books for the citizens to abide by.
Councilwoman Bennington then asked Leisure Services
Director Corder when they allow these dogs in our parks and
she knows in the audience there are conditions that if the
owners don't pick up after them, how are they going to
enforce this. Mr. Corder informed her that was always a
concern. The plan is when they implement this program
Animal Control will be heavily patrolling the area and they
will be citing people to get their point across to start
with and they will have a fine to pay.
Councilwoman Bennington asked if they were going to be
providing bags. Mr. Corder informed her waste bags would
be placed in areas along the walk. There have already been
new trash dispensers put out in several areas out there.
They are getting ready for this to keep them clean.
Councilwoman Bennington saw a gentleman walking two dogs on
her way to the meeting tonight and one of the dogs was
using the bathroom and the gentleman didn't have any bags
in his hands. Mr. Corder commented on that being a problem
for years. He spoke of having a stronger policy for
enforcement. Councilwoman Bennington is a firm believer
that there's no sense having these restrictions if they
aren't going to enforce them.
Councilman Cooper stated he was under the assumption if it
was going to be abused they would end up retracting the
resolution.
Mr. Corder explained this ordinance cleans up what is
already going on out there.
Councilwoman Rogers stated people are already walking their
dogs and going into the park and most people aren't even
aware that there is an ordinance. She was the one that
brought this to everyone's attention because someone said
she was walking her five-pound dog in the park. She was
seeing everyone else walking in the park and she is a
Councilperson and didn't realize she couldn't. She was
just doing what everyone else was doing. Now they are
making it legal and they are going to provide bags and they
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will have receptacles in various locations so this will be
maintained.
Councilman Cooper feels it is a great thing and as long as
everyone takes some personal responsibility, they won't
have a problem.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
Elizabeth DiMascio, 1918 S. Riverside Drive, mentioned
having scented bags and she even thought they were cheaper.
Councilwoman Rogers commented on having scented bags at the
Dune Park in New Smyrna.
Ms. DiMascio commented on the boat ramp. She said it is
really pretty and nicely designed. She spoke of the
parking being organized. There was a table on the end that
had bait and asked who polices that park. Mayor Thomas
stated they do pick it up on Monday.
Mr. Corder stated it is currently on the books that they
aren't supposed to be cleaning fish in the parks. Ms.
DiMascio informed him it was bait. Mr. Corder stated
anything aquatic they aren't supposed to be cleaning in the
parks so they could be cited for that too if they can catch
them. Ms. DiMascio suggested putting a sign in the park
that says to clean up the bait mess. Mr. Corder informed
her he has been waiting on the new ordinance but the will
put a sign over there.
There were no further comments.
Councilwoman Rogers stated under adoption they have listed
during the August 17th meeting. It needs to be changed to
August 10th if that is when there meeting is going to be.
The adoption under Part F on page 6 of the ordinance needs
to be changed from August 17th to August 10th.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Rogers moved to adopt Ord. 2009-0-05, second
by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
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B. 2nd Reading, Ordinance No. 2008-0-05, James C. and
Rosemary Carder requesting an amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map to include
29.67~ acres of land located east of US Highway 1
and north of Godfrey Road as Commercial with
Conservation Overlay
Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti read Ord. 2008-0-05 into
the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Ord. 2008-0-05,
second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
C. 2nd Reading, Ordinance No. 2008-0-09, James C.
Carder requesting an amendment to the Official
Zoning Map to include 29.67~ acres of land
located east of US Highway 1 and north of Godfrey
Road as B-3 (Highway Commercial) and R-1 (Single
Family Residential)
Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti read Ord. 2008-0-09 into
the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas opened and
closed the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Ordinance 2008-0-09,
second by Counci~woman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
D. Resolution No. 2009-R-17, Approving the Local
Agency Program Agreement (LAP), FPN 426521-58-01
between the City and FDOT to facilitate the US
Highway 1 Sidewalk Project
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Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti read Res. 2009-R-17 into
the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper questioned this being a total grant.
City Manager Barlow informed him it was a total grant.
Councilwoman Bennington asked who does the work. City
Manager Barlow informed her they would contract that out.
Councilwoman Rogers questioned not using the employees to
do this. City Manager Barlow informed her our employees
would manage this due to not having the resources to pour
sidewalks. That is the whole purpose of these federal
stimulus grants is to put workers back on the job.
Councilwoman Rogers commented on subbing it out and
bypassing the contractor and the percentage then that means
the money is going to be saved so they aren't going to
utilize all of these funds for this and they will have a
management fee that the City will be able to receive as
revenue. City Manager Barlow stated the contractor would
be the one to do the sidewalk itself. Councilwoman Rogers
stated he just said the City employees would be managing
this and asked him why he would have the City employees
managing it and a contractor at the same time. There would
be some savings and it would then be received and probably
most likely put into the General Fund. City Manager Barlow
informed her their costs for management would offset as
reimbursement. That is built into the grant application.
Development Services Director Lear informed Council the
contractor had to be DOT certified and nobody in the City
is DOT certified to do work within their right-of-way.
Councilwoman Rogers stated but if City employees are going
to be managing it there is still going to be time used of
the employees that will then be paid for by the funds from
this grant. City Manager Barlow commented on Tommy Smith
overseeing the contractor. Mr. Lear informed them he would
be doing the inspecting basically.
Councilwoman Bennington stated they have to spend all of
the money in the grant. If they go under what the grant is
for, do they get to keep it? City Manager Barlow informed
her they only get reimbursed for what they expend of the
federal dollars.
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Councilwoman Rogers stated but there will be City employees
time that will be quantified and that can be billed back on
this grant.
City Manager Barlow commented on another grant they are
working for the Eastern Shores Stormwater project. A lot
of that work can be done with City employees and that time
is reimbursed through the grant.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
The following citizens spoke:
Dominic Capri a , 606 Topside Circle, stated if the grant
money and our employees will be paid through this grant
money, and he knows it is not going to be a lot of money.
He was informed it would be a lot of money. Mr. Capria
asked if they were taking that into consideration when thy
do this budget. City Manager Barlow stated the
contribution from the City to oversee some of this is very
minimal. Most of the dollars are going to be in the
concrete and the site work that the contractor will be
doing. with a federal grant, we only get reimbursed for
what we expend. If they generate any interest off of it,
they have to reimburse the interest as well.
Steven Zarrelli, 3403 Juniper Drive, asked if the grant
moneys are similar to a non-profit organization. He asked
when the bidding would begin and if they had specific
preferred vendors that are going to be bidding on this
project?
City Manager Barlow stated they don't have dates set on the
bid yet. This is step one to get the Council to accept it.
We do not have preferred vendors on this project. He
further explained the money being specific to the project.
Mayor Thomas closed the public hearing and entertained a
motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve Resolution 2009-R-
17, second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
E. Resolution No. 2009-R-18, Updating the existing
Purchasing Policy dated April 21, 2008
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This item was pulled from the agenda and would be
rescheduled to a later date.
9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
City Clerk Wenzel informed Council that when the Code
Enforcement Board made their recommendations they were both
a couple of months ago at two separate meetings where there
was only one application. Since their recommendation was
made, they got more applications in. They put it on the
website and in the newsletter that they were looking for
applicants. They received several applications in and they
were provided to Council. One of the applicants is not
eligible for the Code Board as he does not live in the City
limits.
City Manager Barlow asked if any of those applicants are on
other boards that would be in conflict as dual office
holding. City Clerk Wenzel didn't think so. She believed
they were all new.
City Manager Barlow thought he saw Mrs. DelNigro and she is
currently on the Police Pension Board. If she is on the
Police Pension Board she would not be eligible for the Code
Enforcement Board because that would be dual office
holding. City Clerk Wenzel stated unless she resigned from
the Police Pension Board. City Manager Barlow stated that
hasn't happened so she is not eligible. Councilwoman
Bennington questioned her not being eligible until she
resigns. City Manager Barlow informed her that was
correct.
A. Citizen Code Enforcement Board - Councilwoman
Rogers' appointment due to the resignation of
Lawrence Leaf. This item was continued from the
June 15, 2009 meeting.
Councilwoman Rogers stated her concern is that she is
looking at the Code Board recommendation and she was told
that the recommendation was the only person that had
applied for this Board and now they have several
applications attached to the back of this. At the same
time they have an individual who has expressed an interest
to be appointed to this Board and seeing that they have a
handful of people that wanted to be on this Board and at
the time of the Code Board's recommendation they only had
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one person, she felt they should postpone this. City Clerk
Wenzel informed her they have not been able to have a Code
Enforcement Board meeting because they do not have enough
members to have a quorum. Councilwoman Rogers asked how
they had enough members to make these recommendations.
City Clerk Wenzel stated these were done back in May and
June. For the August meeting, at this point they do not
have a quorum to have their meeting.
Councilwoman Rogers then questioned what the time frame was
from the time that person resigns to the time they can
appoint them needs to take place legally. City Manager
Barlow stated it could be immediately.
Jeanne DelNigro, 3130 Tamarind Drive, asked if she resigned
from the Pension Board immediately would her application be
able to go forward with an appointment if they decide to
put her on. City Manager Barlow informed her he believed
she would be eligible but asked if she could stand there
and resign from the Police Pension Board if the Chairman
isn't there to accept her resignation.
Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti stated the more cautious
route would be to have acceptance of that at a formal
meeting. Ms. DelNigro asked Larry Leaf if he had to do
that and he informed her he did not. City Clerk Wenzel
stated he provided a letter to the Code Board.
City Manager Barlow stated the whole reason he brought that
up. He spoke of replacing Mr. Leaf's position because of
the dual office holding. He doesn't want to create the
same situation they are undoing tonight. He informed Ms.
DelNigro if she was appointed to the Code Board tonight she
would be in violation of the law.
Ms. DelNigro didn't understand. Assistant City Attorney
Ciocchetti explained as a technical matter, her resignation
would be effective immediately but in a formal board
process that is where it is actually accepted. He was
unaware of any general opinion on which to provide guidance
on it. He has never faced this and as many times with the
law he would have to research it.
Councilman Cooper asked if they have a quorum if they
appoint one member because there are two members for this
board to be appointed and then allow Ms. DelNigro to resign
the next month and reapply. He pointed out that one of the
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appointments they are doing tonight was continued for a
month due to Councilwoman Rogers not being present a the
June 15th meeting. Councilwoman Bennington thought the Code
Board had to have five members to have a quorum. There are
seven that serve on the Board.
Councilman Cooper commented on Ms. DelNigro really wanting
to serve on this Board. Let her resign from the other
board, they will appointment one members tonight and let
her take the second one.
Mayor Thomas stated he would be cautious about that. They
just got an opinion from the attorney. Councilman Cooper
stated but that would give her thirty days and that solves
the problem.
Councilman Cooper felt they should table this.
Councilwoman Bennington thought it had already been tabled
twice. Councilwoman Rogers stated hers was tabled because
she was on vacation last month.
Councilman Cooper suggested they table Councilwoman
Bennington's appointment and let Councilwoman Rogers do
hers. Councilwoman Bennington didn't want to do that. She
was ready to make her appointment.
Councilwoman Bennington stated if Councilwoman Rogers
wanted it tabled she should ask and they could table it.
Councilwoman Rogers stated she did ask and they already
gave the response, which is if they get tabled the Code
Enforcement Board cannot meet again because they won't have
a quorum.
Councilwoman Rogers stated they have to make a decision.
She was going to make her decision and then Councilwoman
Bennington could make hers to table it and then they
accomplish what it is they set to accomplish.
Councilwoman Rogers nominated Sherry Lester to serve on the
Citizen Code Enforcement Board to fu~fi~~ the remainder of
Lawrence Leaf's term.
Councilwoman Rogers told Councilwoman Bennington she could
table hers so that Ms. DelNigro could do it. Councilwoman
Bennington again stated she didn't want to table hers.
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The motion was seconded by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
B. Citizen Code Enforcement Board - Councilwoman
Bennington's appointment due to the passing of
Ben DelNigro
Councilwoman Bennington stated she knows Mrs. DelNigro
would make a good member but she has one problem with it.
They just got her application, which was dated July 17th.
These came with the agenda after the agenda was closed.
Can they legally look at something they get after it was
closed? City Clerk Wenzel referred her to Assistant City
Attorney Ciocchetti on that.
Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti stated from a legal
perspective, yes they can.
Councilwoman Rogers asked when the last time was that the
Code Enforcement Board met because they had a quorum. City
Clerk Wenzel and City Manager Barlow informed her it was on
June 25th. Councilwoman Bennington and Councilwoman Rogers
both thought the last meeting was in May.
Councilwoman Rogers stated they have applications stapled
to the agenda requests that are dated after June 25th. She
was confused because if they aren't able to look at them
because of the dates. City Manager Barlow and Councilwoman
Bennington both informed her Assistant City Attorney
Ciocchetti said they could look at them.
Councilwoman Bennington had no problem with Ms. DelNigro
serving on the Code Enforcement Board but she wanted to
make sure they were covered legally with her going
officially and resigning before they appoint her to another
board.
Councilwoman Bennington nominated Gail Anderson, second by
Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - o.
C. Economic Development Board - Councilman Cooper's
appointment due to the resignation of John Nelson
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Councilman Cooper moved to appoint Susan Persis to the
Economic Deve20pment Board, second by Counci2woman
Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
10. OTHER BUSINESS
A. VGMC Rules of Procedures - Re-affirming
Resolution No. 2009-R-03, recommending certain
changes to the Rules of Procedures
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper commented on concerns in losing authority
and control over to the VGMC and that is why they adopted
the resolution for many particular points, not just this
one particular avenue. He spoke of being more concerned
with not needing another governing organization stepping
allover anything that might happen in Edgewater. He
understood that is why they affirmed what they affirmed.
City Manager Barlow informed him he was correct. That was
all in the original resolution. The only piece of the
original resolution they are looking at is the citizen
standing. As it relates to future land use amendments and
everything else it needs to be addressed on a local level.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to re-affirm their original
position as was unanimous2y adopted with Reso2ution 2009-R-
03 on February 17, 2009, second by Counci2woman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
B. Persimmon Place Wastewater System Improvement
Agreement - Approval of an Agreement between the
City and the Persimmon Place Homeowners
Association for repair and improvement to their
wastewater collection facility
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
There was a brief discussion regarding the pricing.
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Due to there being no comments, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to authorize the
Mayor to execute the Agreement for the ~rovements to the
Persimmon Place Wastewater Collection Facility, second by
Councilwoman Rogers.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
C. Mixer Purchase - Authorization to purchase a new
mixer at the Wastewater Treatment Plant in the
amount of $43,682.00
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper asked about down time. Environmental
Services Director Brenda Dewees informed him they have two
treatment trains to the process. They have one treatment
train running. They did manage to get this particular
mixer up and running. It's in need of dire repair. It is
on it's last leg.
Councilman Cooper questioned this being a non-budgetary
item. City Manager Barlow informed him they would take the
funds from a capital project, which was the Southeast
Service Area improvements applied towards here. They also
have a grant out for some improvements to the Southeast
Service Area, which will be tanks and pumps. Best-case
scenario is they will take this money and apply it towards
the mixers as they get the grant and still move that other
capital project forward.
Councilwoman Bennington stated he said in the best-case
scenario. She asked what the worse case scenario was.
City Manager Barlow informed her they would have to
scrounge around and find more money to reallocate the
southeast project to move it forward. They have a little
bit of time there because development hasn't taken off yet
to the south.
Councilwoman Bennington questioned if they were going to
budget to gradually start replacing these since they are so
old. Ms. Dewees informed her there are two treatment
trains this would replace one of those in one side of the
treatment train and the intent was to try and replace the
other three next year.
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Due to there being no further comments, Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to authorize the emergency
purchase of the mixer at the Wastewater Treatment P~ant in
the amount of $43,682, second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
Mayor Thomas recognized County Councilman Jack Hayman who
represents and also lives in Edgewater who was in the
audience.
Mayor Thomas called a ten-minute recess at this time. The
meeting recessed at 7:30 p.m. and reconvened at 7:41 p.m.
D. Millage Rate - Authorize the Millage rates for
advertisement
Finance Director John McKinney made a staff presentation by
going through a Powerpoint Presentation regarding property
taxes and where we were, where we are and where we are
going as far as property taxes. (Attached)
Finance Director McKinney informed him they were here
tonight to determine not what they were going to make the
budget but what they were going to advertise to be included
in the TRIM notice. This is the maximum millage. The
millage they set today if they come back in the budget
workshops with things that need to be done with relation to
the General Fund, if they set a millage rate of 6% tonight
and it takes $7.00 per $1,000 to do it they would have to
pay to send a notice to every resident within the City of
Edgewater about this change. Their roll back rate based on
bringing the same amount of ad valorem revenue that we took
in last year; not including new construction is $7.1297
mills. He stated he and City Manager Barlow feel pretty
confident that they can ask the Council tonight to set a
tentative millage rate of $6.9 mills per $1,000 of assessed
value.
Finance Director McKinney further discussed the commercial
properties and how the millage rate would affect them.
Finance Director McKinney stated they adopted a budget last
year of $13,547,547. Right now at $5.9 mills, our total
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revenue next year is $12,111,513 for a difference of
$1,436,034.
Finance Director McKinney then commented on the Tax
Collections FY2010 for 2009 Property Tax Year, which was
included in the Powerpoint Presentation.
Finance Director McKinney stated he believed they could
balance the budget somewhere less than rollback. He wanted
permission to advertise at $6.9 mills per $1,000 of
assessed value for the Edgewater General Fund Operating
Millage. He spoke of additional information he has
received since he did the agenda item.
Finance Director McKinney stated he stated in his agenda
item that $7.1297 per $1,000 would be the roll back but
based on what they have done this afternoon they do feel
pretty confident that they can come back at less than roll
back which is something none of their other neighboring
cities or the County has been able to accomplish.
Councilwoman Bennington questioned if it would be better if
they aim to bring it in at the $6.9 and advertise it at the
roll back rate. City Manager Barlow informed her they
could advertise at the roll back rate of $7.1297 and still
through the budget process aim to lower that. They are
confident they can do that. Councilwoman Bennington would
rather them advertise it at the roll back rate and then
lower it when they actually do it. She would like to have
a little cushion. As a City Councilperson she wanted to
instruct staff to go for the lower rate. City Manager
Barlow stated if the majority of the Council decides to
land at the roll back rate of $7.1297 he can tell them they
feel very confident they can bring a balanced budget below
that without affecting services as they know them today.
They are still going through the budget process. They meet
tomorrow with our health care carrier, our insurance, and
they will have some good numbers there. He was concerned
about that because they didn't have a very good claims
history last year. They had a lot of claims last year so
they will see some increase there. They feel confident
they can bring back a budget below roll back.
Finance Director McKinney then made a presentation on the
Voted Debt Service millage rate. He needed Council to set
the Voted Debt Service millage rate at $0.0382 per $1,000
of assessed value based on the sale of the Limited General
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Obligation Note Payable of 2007. This would generate
$31,414, which covers the principle and interest of that
debt service for next fiscal year. The Voted Debt Service
millage rate they don't have any leeway on.
Councilman Cooper agreed with Councilwoman Bennington
regarding the advertised rate. He doesn't like the 6.1 or
6.9 to be the final number. He thinks what they are going
to be forced to do is they are going to have to look at the
budget and things are going to be brought forward on how
many people aren't going to be able to pay their taxes this
year. They may have to look at cut backs and rollbacks and
salary caps. The majority of the residents right now are
getting hit so bad and the money isn't there. They are
going to have to do a real hard job. They may really have
to tighten the belts and operate on less until they get
through these times. They say well into 2011 and 2012
before it starts to reverse itself. They can't go on
imagining it is going to be business as usual. They have
been dealt a hand that they aren't going to have a lot of
choices in. He doesn't care what the advertised rate is
going to be wants everyone in Edgewater to attend these
budget hearings because a lot of things are going to have
to come out.
Councilwoman Rogers commented on her taxes going up last
year, even with the double homestead. For a lot of
residents, their taxes went up. Tonight they have the
Mayor signing a satisfaction of mortgage and basically that
is 1.9 million that they aren't going to receive this year
that they received last year that was buried in the General
Fund. They didn't do what they should have done last year
so now the problem is bigger this year and is going to keep
getting bigger. People are losing jobs, sales, businesses
going down. She spoke of how this is affecting her. They
have made so many mistakes in the past and they never paid
the piper. It is like they are in a rut. We have a grave
open at both ends and they keep digging it bigger trying to
protect this and protect that. In the end it is the
employees of this City that still have the jobs and the
pensions and the health insurance. What about the number
of citizens out there that don't have that? Look at the
number of foreclosures we have. They need to get the Code
Enforcement Board to get back into meetings because of all
the foreclosures in Florida Shores. Everybody else is
having to deal with things and they need to deal with
things. She then spoke about the City of New Smyrna Beach
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having 200 people storm City Hall. They had an attorney
come forward telling the Council they needed to reduce that
budget by $1 million. Unfortunately they don't have those
kind of people coming to Edgewater. What they are doing is
they are crying and complaining. They aren't coming here
because their feeling is they are going to do exactly what
staff recommends. We have happy employees. If the people
that have lost their jobs in the City of Edgewater worked
for the City they would be happy too. They have to do
something here. We have the highest millage rate in the
County. What their rate was last year, they need to start
with that rate. She spoke of the public hearing from last
year and what they said they were going to do last year
they didn't do it. They have to start doing something now.
They just recently approved something that they hope is
going to be paid for. They don't even have their capital
account set up correctly so when assets and equipment are
getting retired they have the funds sitting there. They
just keep pushing it off and talking about this pie in the
sky theory. It is not happening. People have to cut back
today. People are budgeting today. People are going to
the grocery stores with lists. They are making a menu and
buying their groceries according to that. The City of
Edgewater needs to do the same thing. If that means
reducing the garbage service to one day a week, if that
means the citizens need to do a little more kicking in, she
thinks it is something they need to do. This is not just a
City issue. This is an issue with all taxing authorities.
People are so fed up with government and taxes that they
aren't here. They don't have anybody here. It is pitiful.
She wont' be retiring in this City. Her house is on the
market. She won't be retiring in this City because she
doesn't see how she will be able to afford it when she is
in her 60's and 70's. She just left a State that passed a
House Bill where they went back to the old taxable values
and the millage there is .33.
City Manager Barlow didn't disagree. Over the last year and
a half staff has done everything they possibly can to
consolidate positions. We have multiple staff doing
multiple jobs. He pointed out the fact that there is no
secretary in the City Manager's department. He does his
own correspondence. Every opportunity they have for
efficiency as they try to extrapolate on that. They
replaced a lot of full time positions with part time
positions without the benefits. There are numerous
positions they have not filled which amounts to 10% of the
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work force. We are a full service City. If Council is
looking to cut some services, they are there. They are
borderline. They have done everything they possibly can to
maintain those services. He benchmarked our community to
some of our neighboring communities throughout the County
with a similar size population. We are totally a full
service City with 180 employees. He compared us to a City
half our size and they have 120 employees. Another City
with similar population on the west side laid off 10
employees which brings them down to 310 employees and they
don't even have their own garbage collection. They have
done everything they possibly can for efficiencies to
maintain those level of services they appreciate here. The
challenges here are the demographics. A majority of our
properties are homesteaded residential properties and not
commercial properties. He thinks they have some things
coming in the future. They are planting those seeds to try
to change some of the taxing demographics and attract some
commercial. He commented on efforts being made to attract
commercial businesses. He spoke of the recommendation at
$6.9 and the $111,000 deficit from last year's revenue as
it relates to ad valorem tax and they are going to look for
those deficiencies because they understand that is what is
going to maintain and continue our City to be sustainable.
He cautioned Council that staff is doing everything they
possibly can. They are at that point. Anything less than
that he is going to be asking Council to tell him which
services are lowest priority and they can start to back
away from them. He spoke of when the residents come to the
microphone and talk about scented dog waste bags that they
also have an appropriate response that that is a lower
priority and we can't afford it.
Councilwoman Bennington agreed with City Manager Barlow.
The idea of them having the highest millage rate, her
comment to that is we do but we don't have the industry and
the commercial that New Smyrna and a lot of the other
cities have so the residents have to bear that expense. It
has been like that forever. Somebody has to pay for the
services. The other problem she sees in this City that she
has seen for years is we have a large percent of our
population that own houses that are paying no ad valorem
taxes. We are in a hole there. We are providing services
and usually those type people are the ones that use more
services than other types. She thinks their biggest
mistake since she has been sitting there is they went too
low on the millage and now they are being hit with harder
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times and they have staff doing three jobs and nobody is
really complaining. She spoke of cutting back the garbage
by one day but still having to pay these people whether
they pick up garbage one day a week or two days a week.
She spoke of adding the full up and running animal shelter
that they have never really funded before. They have to
address that and look at that. That is a big expense and
sooner or later it will support itself but it is not going
to support itself overnight. What services more can they
cut? It sounds good to cut services more but when you need
the police or the fire or the garbagemen to pickup your
garbage that has been accumulating and you tell someone I'm
sorry but you didn't pay for it. We didn't raise your
taxes so there is no one available to answer your calls,
then what are they going to do? They are up for criticism
that way. She thinks they need to work towards the lowest
and advertise at the roll back rate at the very least. She
thinks staff has done a tremendous job and they are lucky
to have the people working for them that have that have
kept the attitude up in spite of everything and she knows
no matter what they do as a Council they are going to be
criticized. She thinks it is time they bite the bullet and
do the hard thing. She knows things are rough allover and
it's not just County and City. It is nationwide. Things
are still going to get rough but people are still expecting
a certain amount of services and we are down to the minimum
amount we can provide. She doesn't see where they can
afford to cut anything else and still be a viable City.
Mayor Thomas stated this concerns him very deeply because
was one his goals when he took office was to make the tax
rate go down and they started that way. Unfortunately we
have had some things happen in the State and with the
economy. He owes it to the citizens who put him in office.
He is a taxpayer too. He feels very proud that he is in
tune with most of the city employees. It is not just the
employees, it is their equipment. He spoke of the
employees cutting grass with mowers that are up to 20 years
old. He also mentioned the police cars. It's not just the
services but the equipment that does the services. If you
don't have the correct tool you can't do the job. We are a
bedroom community. They passed a height limit so they
didn't want condos here. He doesn't want the condos here
either but he knows he will have to pay a little more for
his quality of life and he doesn't mind doing that. AS bad
as it is heartburn for him he is going to have to go with
staff's recommendation. He has been there and they have
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cut to the bone. Some of those guys are doing jobs of
three people. He sees it is their faces. They are worried
about their jobs too.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
The following citizen spoke:
Dominic Capri a , 606 Topside Circle, felt Finance Director
McKinney did a great job. He feels they should start with
the 5.9 millage rate. It's going to get there. 6.09 they
are gong to hassle and it is going to go to 5.9 in his
opinion. He is getting tired of hearing New Smyrna Beach
has industry and we don't. Why don't we? He doesn't want
to see anybody get laid off. What about the poor people
that are laid off? They are hurting. But again we compare
with New Smyrna Beach. Let's compare with other cities and
not just New Smyrna Beach. New Smyrna Beach only has a
half a dozen or less employee than we have. What has to be
done, has to be done? He has been through it many a times.
As far as people not paying taxes on their homes, he
doesn't know where Councilwoman Bennington gets that. He
believes there probably are a few but don't think there are
a whole bunch of them. He doesn't believe that.
Mayor Thomas commented on complaints he received that
someone's street is not paved or the grass next door is not
cut. They still have to provide those services for the
citizens. They can't compare apples to oranges. Deltona
doesn't have a police force. DeBary and Orange City have
to buy water from someone else. We have our own water and
our own facility. This is a great city and we are doing it
ourselves. We are self-sufficient and aren't depending on
another city. He is proud of this city and what they have
accomplished.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to follow the roll back
rate of 7.1297 under the understanding to the pub2ic that
this wi22 be some of the sternest budget ta2ks ever
happening in Edgewater to get it much 20wer than that,
second by Counci2woman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 3 -1 .
Councilwoman Roqers voted NO.
Councilwoman Bennington made a motion to approve the Voted
Debt Service of .0382 per $1000 of assessed va2ue, second
by Counci2man Cooper.
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The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
City Manager Barlow stated their first budget workshop is
going to be August loth at 5:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers
to discuss the General Fund Budget workshop, which will be
one hour prior to the Council meeting that starts at 6:00
p.m. Again on August 31st starting at 5:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers they will do the Enterprise Fund Budget
workshop and then if they have any left over work from the
General Fund, they will also do that on August 31st as well.
There will be no Council meeting after that.
Councilman Cooper would like this broke down and
categorized and that they not try to handle the pie in two
big sections. He would like to break it down to each
department and to the revenue that can be generated. It's
not always just the tax base. He would be more than
willing to present an outline that Council can change so
when they get to the budget hearings they have the
information he is going to need to tear into this solidly
and do it educationally. There are many things they need
to look at when they start talking budget.
City Manager Barlow agreed to give him an example of how he
will see the budget, which is by line item, not only by
department and by fund. If he is comfortable with it then
they will go with it. If he wants other changes he can
work with our software vendor to see if that is possible.
If they can work with that and then it lessens the chance
of any transposing of any numbers and it is the true budget
from the true software system.
Councilman Cooper stated as long as they are open to look
at all avenues. They have to find a way to generate
revenue. That is the biggest thing he has been harping on
since he got elected. We are weak at it at best. It's not
always the taxpayer that is his revenue generator.
City Manager Barlow commented on the tax rate having an
effect on the initiative to try to bring in commercial or
non-residential properties as well. That is important to
him too as to whatever he can do to keep that down and
still provide those services that will attract that non-
residential/commercial tax base.
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Finance Director McKinney informed City Manager Barlow he
had to provide to the Property Appraiser our workshop dates
and our public hearing dates. If they are going to change
the dates of the workshops or public hearings he will need
to know that before he sends out the TRIM notice. City
Manager Barlow informed him they established August 10th and
August 31st for the workshops.
Councilwoman Bennington wanted one more workshop date where
they don't have a Council meeting afterwards. Mayor Thomas
felt that was a good idea. City Manager Barlow suggested
August 24th. Councilman Cooper asked if they were limited
by the number they could have. He was informed they are
not.
City Manager Barlow suggested having the second General
Fund workshop on August 24th at 5:00 p.m. He agreed to have
the budget workshops advertised.
E. vehicle Purchase - Request for approval of a
budget amendment and authorization to purchase a
2009 Ford F150 4 X 4 for the Fire Department
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper questioned this being a non-budget item.
City Manager Barlow informed him it was but through some
savings from personnel{ this would be a budget amendment.
Due to there being no further comments { Mayor Thomas
entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the budget
amendment for the 2009 Ford F150 4 X 4, second by
Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
F. JAG Presidential Recovery Grant - Approval and
authorization for the Mayor to execute the Grant
Agreement { associated documents and budget
amendment
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments { Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
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Councilman Cooper moved to approve and authorize the Mayor
to execute the Grant Agreement and associated documents and
budget amendment, second by Counci~woman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
11. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel had nothing at this time.
B. City Attorney
1) Settlement Agreement - Kathleen
Hohenstein vs. City of Edgewateri Case
#2006-20506-CINS
-Assistant City Attorney Ciocchetti commented on the
settlement agreement between Kathleen Hohenstein and the
City.
Mayor Thomas asked if our insurance company
City Manager Barlow informed him they had.
Cooper asked what the deductible was. City
informed him $5,000.
paid that.
Councilman
Manager Barlow
Councilman Cooper asked how come the County was so cheap at
$1,500. City Manager Barlow commented on the City owning
the sewer infrastructure and the manhole that was allegedly
tripped on but it is unincorporated property so that is how
they got named in the suit.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the proposed
Sett~ement Agreement, second by Counci~n Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 - 0 .
C. City Manager
1) Rescheduling of the August 17, 2009
Council meeting to August 10, 2009
City Manager Barlow commented on moving the August 17th
meeting to August 10th.
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City Manager Barlow commented on a letter he received from
the Fire/Rescue Association regarding the 4th of July
respectfully requesting up to $1,000 donation from the City
to help offset the cost of the 4th of July celebration. He
informed them they currently had a little over $7,000 in
Promotional Activities under the City Council budget line
item and he thought $6,000 was budgeted towards the
fireworks show but they were able to offset through
donations.
It was the consensus of Council to donate $1,000 to the
Fire/Rescue Association.
City Manager Barlow stated we have recently been put on
notice that an owner is trying to close on a piece of
property on Mary Street, which is part of the Edgewater
Acres subdivision, which is one of the oldest subdivisions
in Edgewater. He spoke of a section of the road never
being recorded as part of the right of way. He guessed it
was back in the 50's or 60's when the subdivision was
built. Staff is working to get that clarified. If Council
doesn't have any issues he will be preparing a map to be
certified by the Mayor and City Clerk to be filed with the
Clerk of the Circuit court showing the lands and road are
vested by Statutes since it has been in existence for
greater than 7 years and maintained by the City for 7
years.
City Manager Barlow commented on a letter that was sent to
FIND. Councilman Cooper asked if they are leaving
themselves open because he said in the letter he wanted to
specifically have it used for ParkTowne projects only.
City Manager Barlow commented on a contract that was
negotiated prior to him that they never took advantage of
that allowed them to use that dredge material for roadway
projects only in ParkTowne. He is taking it a stretch
further to see if they can use it for development projects
within ParkTowne. For some reason part of the last
negotiations they want to keep it in ParkTowne. He also
commented on incentives offered outside of ParkTowne.
City Manager Barlow informed Council that Bob McIntosh had
been working on putting together a comprehensive economic
development strategy for Edgewater pertaining to Edgewater.
They have coordinated a joint workshop with the Planning &
Zoning Board and Economic Development Board on July 29th at
8:00 a.m.
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Councilman Cooper asked for some solid insight in the
factual information in reference to Coronado Paint. City
Manager Barlow stated he spoke to a credible source and the
fact of the matter is they are going to be scaling down and
anticipate by the end of the year to close the Coronado
Paint manufacturing plant here. They will keep a small
core of employees on board to disassemble the equipment.
His concern was they didn't know anything and did they miss
an opportunity to come in and help them maintain the
business here and were they competing against the factor in
Alabama. He was assured no. He questioned what the City
could have done to change this. The gentleman informed him
it was a very old plant here and very limited as far as
expansion. Part of it was bought by Benjamin Moore. The
plant they are consolidating to in Alabama is a larger,
more sophisticated plant. They have to maintain so many
millions of gallons of paint per year in order to be
profitable and this plant couldn't do that even if it was
ran around the clock.
Councilman Cooper asked if they had taken anything through
Economic Development to get a hold of those residents that
have lost those jobs. He was wondering if there was
anything we had in our opportunities that we might be able
to be reaching out there and helping these people find
work. City Manager Barlow informed him we don't have those
resources or anybody that could manage that. He was told
that Coronado Paint is working with the Volusia County
Economic Development Department in that effort to try to
have those individuals placed. They have the resources.
Jack Hayman, County Councilman, 3003 Travelers Palm Drive,
stated when they heard about this they were all shocked and
confident they could turn it around with some sort of State
and County incentive that we have programs like that in
place and unfortunately as it turned out it was
economically unfeasible for the corporate headquarters to
stay here because the cost benefit wasn't there for them.
The County Economic Development personnel will be working
with State and local authorities. There aren't many plant
manufacturers around this region of the State, which makes
it tough. They are doing everything they can. He agreed
to keep the City Council posted. They might want to have a
meeting with the employees there and work something out
with the corporate if they haven't already scheduled that.
Councilwoman Bennington stated they are taking a large
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July 20, 2009
percentage of their employees. Her son in law works for
them he is head of research and development and they are
taking their key people. Some time this week they are
taking two Charter buses of the employees that work there
that they want them to go out there too. Coronado isn't
just dumping these people. The plant will be physically
closed some time in September. They plan to totally be out
of there by December 31st.
County Councilman Hayman expressed concern with what will
happen with the facility. They don't want to see it fall
in disrepair. Over time they have done a remarkable job to
make that whole industrial complex fit into a residential
neighborhood with the least pain possible.
12. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Alice Haldeman, 930 Lake Avenue, stated before she retired
she worked for County government and she knows how
difficult budget time is. The Council has had to make a
very difficult decision and it is going to hurt her a
little bit but in the great scheme of things a few hundred
dollars a year more in taxes will hurt her a lot less than
she would be hurt if she didn't have a good fire department
to depend on, police department, water to drink, parks.
She spoke of the restrooms being clean at the parks. They
are doing a good job and she appreciates what they are
trying to do to keep the City running well.
City Manager Barlow pointed out Ms. Haldeman also serves on
the Code Enforcement Board.
13 . ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Council moved
to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:46 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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Attest:
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City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2009 for 2008 Property Tax Year
Due before January 1, 2009
Current 2008 Adjusted Tax Value $ 965,845,636 Taxable Value x Agency
New Taxable Value 15,772,016 Millage Rate x 95% equals tax
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 981,617,652 to be collected by January 1
(Per F.S.S. Chapter 163.337)
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00590000 $ 5,791,544.15 $ 5,501,966.94 5.900000 27.45%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003305 32,439.52 30,817.54 0.033047 0.15%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00450310 4,420,322.45 4,199,306.33 4.503100 20.95%
Volusia Co School 0.00745900 7,321,886.07 6,955,791.76 7.459000 34.70%
SI. Johns 0.00041580 408,156.62 387,748.79 0.415800 1.93%
FIND 0.00003450 33,865.81 32,172.52 0.034500 0.16%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00286570 2,813,021.71 2,672,370.62 2.865700 13.33%
E Vol Mosq Cant 0.00020556 201,781.32 191,692.26 0.205560 0.96%
Port Authority 0.00007771 76,281.51 72,467.43 0.077710 0.36%
Totals 0.02149442 $ 21,099,299.15 $ 20,044,334.19 21.494417 100.00%
Edgewater 95%
FY09 Tax
Proceeds
0.00620 $ 6,086,029.44 5,781,728
0.00610 $ 5,987,867.68 5,688,474
0.00607 $ 5,955,150.36 5,657,393
0.00600 $ 5,889,705.91 5,595,221
Adopted Millage 0.00590 $ 5,791,544.15 5,501,967
0.00580 $ 5,693,382.38 5,408,713
0.00570 $ 5,595,220.62 5,315,460
0.00560 $ 5,497,058.85 5,222,206
0.00550 $ 5,398,897.09 5,128,952
0.00540 $ 5,300,735.32 5,035,699
0.00530 $ 5,202,573.56 4,942,445
0.00520 $ 5,104,411.79 4,849,191
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City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2010 for 2009 Property Tax Year
Due before January 1, 2010
Current 2009 Adjusted Tax Value $ 812,315,514 Taxable Value x Agency
New Taxable Value 10,027,740 Millage Rate x 95% equals amount
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 822,343,254 to be collected by January 1
(Per F.S.S. Chapter 163.337)
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00712970 $ 5,863,060.70 $ 5,569,907.66 7.129700 29.19%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003820 31,413.51 29,842.84 0.038200 0.16%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00545000 4,481,770.73 4,257,682.20 5.450000 22.31%
Volusia Co School 0.00754300 6,202,935.16 5,892,788.41 7.543000 30.88%
St. Johns 0.00041580 341,930.33 324,833.81 0.415800 1.70%
FIND 0.00003450 28,370.84 26,952.30 0.034500 0.14%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00351090 2,887,164.93 2,742,806.68 3.510900 14.37%
E Vol Mosq Cant 0.00021127 173,736.46 165,049.64 0.211270 0.86%
Port Authority 0.00009379 77,127.57 73,271.20 0.093790 0.38%
Totals 0.02442716 $ 20,087,510.24 $ 19,083,134.73 24.427160 100.00%
95% 95%
FY10 Tax FY 09 Tax Fiscal Year
Proceeds Proceeds Variance
Edgewater 0.0071297 $ 5,863,060.70 5,569,908 5,501,967 $ 67,940.86
0.00710 $ 5,838,637.10 5,546,705 5,501,967 $ 44,738.45
0.00700 $ 5,756,402.78 5,468,583 5,501,967 $ (33,384.16)
0.00690 $ 5,674,168.45 5,390,460 5,501,967 $ (111,506.77)
0.00680 $ 5,591,934.13 5,312,337 5,501,967 $ (189,629.38)
0.00670 $ 5,509,699.80 5,234,215 5,501,967 $ (267,751.99)
0.00660 $ 5,427,465.48 5,156,092 5,501,967 $ (345,874.60)
0.00650 $ 5,345,231.15 5,077,970 5,501,967 $ (423,997.21)
0.00640 $ 5,262,996.83 4,999,847 5,501,967 $ (502,119.82)
0.00630 $ 5,180,762.50 4,921,724 5,501,967 $ (580,242.42)
0.00620 $ 5,098,528.17 4,843,602 5,501,967 $ (658,365.03)
0.00610 $ 5,016,293.85 4,765,479 5,501,967 $ (736,487.64)
0.00607 $ 4,988,885.15 4,739,441 5,501,967 $ (762,525.91)
0.00600 $ 4,934,059.52 4,687,357 5,501,967 $ (814,610.25)
0.00590 $ 4,851,825.20 4,609,234 5,501,967 $ (892,732.86)
0.00580 $ 4,769,590.87 4,531,111 5,501,967 $ (970,855.47)
0.00570 $ 4,687,356.55 4,452,989 5,501,967 $ (1.048,978.08)
0.00560 $ 4,605,122.22 4.374.866 5,501,967 $ (1,127,100.69)
0.00550 $ 4,522,887.90 4,296,744 5,501,967 $ (1,205,223.30)
0.00540 $ 4,440,653.57 4,218,621 5,501,967 $ (1,283,345.91)
0.00530 $ 4,358,419.25 4,140,498 5,501,967 $ (1,361,468.52)
0.00520 $ 4,276,184.92 4,062,376 5,501,967 $ (1,439,591.13)
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City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2009 for 2008 Property Tax Year Exemptions
Due before January 1, 2009
Current 2008 Adjusted Tax Value $ 150,000
Exemptions (50,000)
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 100,000
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00590000 $ 590.00 $ 560.50 5.900000 27.45%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003305 3.30 3.14 0.033047 0.15%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00450310 450.31 427.79 4.503100 20.95%
Volusia Co School 0.00745900 745.90 708.61 7.459000 34.70%
SI. Johns 0.00041580 41.58 39.50 0.415800 1.93%
FIND 0.00003450 3.45 3.28 0.034500 0.16%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00286570 286.57 272.24 2.865700 13.33%
E Vol Mosq Cont 0.00020556 20.56 19.53 0.205560 0.96%
Port Authority 0.00007771 7.77 7.38 0.077710 0.36%
Totals 0.02149442 $ 2,149.44 $ 2,041.97 21.494417 100.00%
City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2009 for 2008 Property Tax Year Non-exempt
Due before January 1, 2009
Current 2008 Adjusted Tax Value $ 150,000
Exemptions
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 150,000
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00590000 $ 885.00 $ 840.75 5.900000 27.45%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003305 4.96 4.71 0.033047 0.15%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00450310 675.47 641.69 4.503100 20.95%
Volusia Co School 0.00745900 1,118.85 1,062.91 7.459000 34.70%
SI. Johns 0.00041580 62.37 59.25 0.415800 1.93%
FIND 0.00003450 5.18 4.92 0.034500 0.16%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00286570 429.86 408.36 2.865700 13.33%
E Vol Mosq Cont 0.00020556 30.83 29.29 0.205560 0.96%
Port Authority 0.00007771 11.66 11.07 0.077710 0.36%
Totals 0.02149442 $ 3,224.16 $ 3,062.95 21.494417 100.00%
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City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2010 for 2009 Property Tax Year Exemptions
Due before January 1, 2010
Current 2009 Adjusted Tax Value $ 124,635 16.91 % Net Change
New Taxable Value (50,000)
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 74,635
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00712970 $ 532.13 $ 505.52 7.129700 29.19%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003820 2.85 2.71 0.038200 0.16%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00545000 406.76 386.42 5.450000 22.31 %
Volusia Co School 0.00754300 562.97 534.82 7.543000 30.88%
St. Johns 0.00041580 31.03 29.48 0.415800 1.70%
FIND 0.00003450 2.57 2.45 0.034500 0.14%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00351090 262.04 248.93 3.510900 14.37%
E Vol Mosq Cont 0.00021127 15.77 14.98 0.211270 0.86%
Port Authority 0.00009379 7.00 6.65 0.093790 0.38%
Totals 0.02442716 $ 1,823.12 $ 1,731.97 24.427160 100.00%
City of Edgewater, Florida
Tax Collections FY 2010 for 2009 Property Tax Year Non-Exempt
Due before January 1, 2010
Current 2009 Adjusted Tax Value $ 124,635 16.91 % Net Change
New Taxable Value
Current Year Gross Tax Value $ 124,635
AGENCY MILLAGE TAX AMOUNT 95% DUE MILLAGE Percent
RATE 12/31/2008 RATE of
per $1,000 Total
Edgewater 0.00712970 $ 888.61 $ 844.18 7.129700 29.19%
Edgewater I&S 0.00003820 4.76 4.52 0.038200 0.16%
Volusia Co - GF 0.00545000 679.26 645.30 5.450000 22.31 %
Volusia Co School 0.00754300 940.12 893.12 7.543000 30.88%
St. Johns 0.00041580 51.82 49.23 0.415800 1.70%
FIND 0.00003450 4.30 4.08 0.034500 0.14%
SE Vol Hospital Dist 0.00351090 437.58 415.70 3.510900 14.37%
E Vol Mosq Cont 0.00021127 26.33 25.02 0.211270 0.86%
Port Authority 0.00009379 11.69 11.11 0.093790 0.38%
Totals 0.02442716 $ 3,044.48 $ 2,892.26 24.427160 100.00%