11-15-2004 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEE TING
NOVEMBER 15, 2004
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
1 . CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Paralegal Robin Matusick
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Excused
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved at this time.
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DONATIONS
A. Recognition of appointed/reappointed Board/Committee
members
There were no Board/Committee members to be recognized.
B. Police Chief Ignasiak presenting a plaque to Officer
JoAnne Winston for "Officer of the Quarter"
Police Chief Ignasiak presented JoAnne Winston with a plaque for
"Officer of the Quarter". Ms. Winston thanked her Sergeant and
Police Chief Ignasiak. She stated the real hero in this is the
girl who came forward after all those years and pursued charges
to save her own children. They need to recognize this is going
on every day and they need to be neighbors and look at it so they
aren't waiting twelve or eighteen years to bring these cases to
justice.
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Shellie Lewis, Fire Department Employee, Staff Sargeant with the
Florida National Guard, thanked the community, her employer, her
family and her friends for the support they gave her. She spoke
of the comfort of knowing she had a job when she got home.
Ms. Lewis presented Fire Chief Barlow with a medallion for
supporting her and the efforts of the Army National Guard.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Pat Card, 3019 Willow Oak Drive, thanked Ms. Lewis for her
service.
~ke Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, read a prepared statement
expressing his disappointment that the purchase of Regions Bank
for a new City Hall did not pass.
Mr. Visconti asked City Manager Hooper if they voted to purchase
Regions Bank by floating a 30-year bond or to buy Regions Bank
out right. City Manager Hooper informed him both. It was a bond
issue to purchase the bank it was the referendum described. The
question in front of the voters was to borrow money to make the
purchase.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, stated he didn't vote for
Bush, he voted for Kerry and the future will tell. Will our
children and grandchildren be paying for it? He thinks so. He
voted for City Hall and he doesn't think it is fair for Mr.
Visconti to get up and criticize the people who did not vote for
it. He has known Mr. Visconti for a long time and feels he
should stick to beautification.
Mr. Capria stated he missed the answer to Mr. Visconti's
questions. City Manager Hooper stated he thought it was up to 30
years.
Mr. Capria feels something is wrong because only a few people
attended the meeting. He has read articles in the newspaper
applauding Councilman Vincenzi and criticizing Councilman
Vincenzi. Right or wrong, he spoke up. If they had campaigned
for the City Hall as hard as they campaigned for the Animal
Shelter, we might have won.
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John Cordeiro, 1515 Pine Tree Drive, addressed the Mayor,
Council, City Manager and Edgewater residents by stating he is
proud of the owners of Edgewater. They have spoken clearly.
They have been trying to tell the Council this for over a year
and a half but only to deaf ears. He has his doubts that they
can change. He had hopes they would but they haven't. He feels
their ways of how to run a City are too deeply rooted to change.
He has seen too many unethical going ons but what really scares
him is what goes on that they don't see. with time they have
become bolder to do what they want, not what Edgewater owners
want. This is real selfishness. If you can't change and
represent the real owners, he feels they should seriously think
about resigning. How can you stay there if the people don't
support you. If there was an election today, most of you would
be history. You have lost the voters trust. The winds in
Edgewater are about to change direction.
Pat Card, 3019 Willow Oak Drive, feels the reason the city Hall
didn't pass, didn't have anything to do with the Council. What
it had to do with was what happened six years ago when they
turned the City upside down and threw out the old and brought in
the new and everybody on this Council except for one came in on
that. Maybe that will work again. Somebody is really out there
digging at it trying to make sure that nobody has any confidence
in the Council. He has confidence in Council and he feels maybe
this City isn't ready for prime time finance but they just took
$4 million out of his pocket and he doesn't like it a bit and the
people that voted against it voted against it in good conscience.
Unfortunately, there were a number of people who gave them bad
information. He is convinced in a method to attempt to
discredit, not just the Council but one of the finest City
Managers he has ever met. When he was hired, he was hired to
grow this City and to grow it well. He doesn't agree with him on
a lot of things, but they will play hell finding one that is any
better than he is. At the last meeting, he informed each
Councilmember what he respected most about them and he is not
alone in that. But unfortunately it is a whole lot easier to say
no then it is to say yes. He thanked Council for their service.
5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
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Councilman Vincenzi addressed Mr. Card. Mr. Card voted for
everything and he respects that. He also put his views out and
spoke up. That was a tough decision he has taken a lot of flack
for it but he is proud he did it. Mr. Visconti says one of the
Councilpeople have abused the power of his position. He doesn't
agree with that. His job is to represent the people and to
inform people, not to just vote yes or no and not do anything
else. He did what he thought was right and like it or not, he
would do it again.
Councilwoman Lichter introduced Dr. Bruce Mowry to explain the
resolution that was given to the Council regarding the creation
of a Municipal Service Taxing and Benefit Unit for the Water
Authority of Volusia.
Councilwoman Lichter informed Council that a MSTU is a Municipal
Service Taxing Unit. Last year Edgewater paid $30,175 to the
W.A.V. group, which was based on our water usage and our citizen
population and a few other factors. She explained there are
people out there that aren't paying anything to solve the water
problem. They live in the County and may have a well but
eventually the water problems are going to have to be covered by
every citizen in Volusia County. That is what this type of
taxing set up accounts for. The resolution is asking if the
Council might support this type of thing. Do they support going
into a different type of funding in lieu of our paying our money
every year? Every city will have a choice. She spoke of big
projects that are in the works, such as water from the st. John's
and desaltation of water, which will be needed in a cooperative
manner but cannot be funded by these residents. This will help
have that accomplished.
Councilwoman Lichter explained Mr. Mowry is just looking to see
if Council would consider this as a good possibility. County
Councilman Jack Hayman, who was present in the audience, is going
to have to present this to the County Council and he wants to
know that the cities and the W.A.V. Group are behind them.
City Manager Hooper stated what Council is being asked is the
concept. Tonight there is not a question about do you support a
tax or a benefit unit, which is an assessment. It is the
concept. The County Council had this in front of them and he
thinks if it is done county-wide each city will have the choice
of opting in or opting out.
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City Manager Hooper further explained the County Council is
curious and asking all the cities to give some kind of
resolution, similar to the one handed out, describing whether
they support the concept for coming years, after there is a
master plan and a capital list of projects to enhance the water,
the availability of the source of water. That is really the
question in front of them.
City Manager Hooper informed Council if they are comfortable vote
to say they support the concept, they could vote on it tonight.
If they would rather it be scheduled for an agenda item on
December 6th, he could do that. He stressed to Council they
aren't doing anything except saying they support the concept of
an assessment. That assessment can come in either a taxing form,
a benefit unit, or paid out of the utility bills, which is where
they have been paying it.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on the items that are included in
your tax bill. There was an issue a couple years back put out by
the County Council and the people in this County voted that they
were very interested and wanted to do something about future
water problems. It would appear on something like that and would
take the burden off the 15 cities involved but would spread it
out. They are looking for ways that everyone in the County
should be part of what is going to be paid into these projects.
Mayor Schmidt asked if this eliminates the payment of the $30,000
and this becomes the way that W.A.V. and the projects are funded.
City Manager Hooper stated that is the future middle term
financing. He further explained short term was everybody paid a
contribution based on your water consumption and population.
Middle ground is this assessment, either in a taxing form or
benefit unit and then long term is the production of water and
that water sold back to each entity and that user fee becomes the
method that will be paying for the surface water plant or
desaltation plant, whichever way this winds up.
Councilwoman Lichter stated this may take two years to go into
effect, so they will be paying the same way for another year.
Mayor Schmidt asked if they had an idea of what this will cost.
Dr. Mowry explained this would be up the W.A.V. Board itself when
they look at their budget and what kinds of funds would be
necessary. If they start looking at developing water supplies
early, taxing may not have to be a major part of the funding. At
this point they don't know.
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Dr. Mowry stated this year's budget was somewhere around
$775,000, which would be less than five hundredths of a mill,
which would generate $1.2 million. This would be something that
would go before the Board.
Councilwoman Lichter stated they are looking at a lot of
different funding mechanisms. They are finding it unfair that
just the cities that belong and their residents are paying now.
They believe that should be spread out to others.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if that happens do those cities get to
come to the table with a vote. Dr. Mowry stated there are three
cities right now that are not members, Oak Hill, Lake Helen and
Pierson. If they went to a county-wide tax and it replaced the
assessment there would be no reason to come to the table and have
three more members. They would go from 14 Board members to 17
Board members then representing all the cities and the County at
the table at one time. That would be a significant benefit.
Councilman Vincenzi doesn't have a problem with this but he
hasn't seen it before tonight and he doesn't feel comfortable.
Councilwoman Lichter suggested they put it on the December 6th
agenda.
Dr. Mowry informed Council this is not a time sensitive issue.
The County Council probably won't be talking about this item
until after January 1st.
It was the consensus of Council to place this on the next agenda.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated there is not one darn thing wrong with
her ethics.
Mayor Schmidt agreed with that. Yes, there is disappointment
when it comes to not getting the City Hall but the bright side of
that is the number of people that went out and voted. It's not
the end of the City. It is just another challenge that was put
in front of them.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Public Hearing, Edgewater United Methodist Church, 211
N. Ridgewood Avenue, requesting a Special Activity
permit for their annual "Christmas Under the Palms"
arts and crafts show on December 11, 2004 from 9:00
a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
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City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve the Special Activitv permit
for their annual "Christmas Under the Palms" arts and crafts show
on December 11, 2004 from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. at the Edaewater
United Methodist Church, second bv Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
B. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-39, amending Chapter 21
(Land Development Code) by modifying Article XVII
(Development/Impact Fees) for consistency and enacting
Section 21-323 (Transportation/Road Impact Fees)
C. Res. No. 2004-R-13, amending schedule of
Development/Impact Fees of the Land Development Code to
include Transportation/Road Impact Fees
D. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-40, Ernestina D. Kayat
requesting annexation of 37.26~ acres of land located
west of 4100 S. US1 and west of Relocation Road
E. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-41, Trajan Joe Sfera,
Persa Sfera, Jon Sfera and Selvie Sfera requesting
annexation of 12.01~ acres of land located west of US1
and south of Relocation Road
F. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-42, Glenn Storch,
authorized agent for John and Patricia Hickey,
requesting annexation of 28~ acres of land located west
of US1 and south of Relocation Road
G. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-43, Glenn Storch,
authorized agent for John and Patricia Hickey,
requesting annexation of 2.14~ acres of land located at
199 Clinton Cemetery Road
H. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-44, Glenn Storch,
authorized agent for John and Patricia Hickey,
requesting annexation 4.70~ acres of land located west
of US1 and north of Clinton Cemetery Road
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I. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-45, Daniel and Christine
Herman requesting annexation 3.65~ acres of land
located west of US1 and south of Clinton Cemetery Road
J. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2004-0-46, Glenn Storch,
authorized agent for Belmont Homes, requesting
annexation of 74~ acres of land located west of US1 and
south of Clinton Cemetery Road
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to continue items B - J until December
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The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
7 . BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. Economic Development Board - nomination by Councilwoman
Lichter to fill the remaining term of Nancy Freeman due
to her resignation
Councilwoman Lichter moved to appoint Chris Balmer to the
Economic Development Board, second bv Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
Mayor Schmidt commented on it being nlce to have all the
applications in their packet.
B. Edgewater Library Board - nomination by Councilman
Brown to fill a seat vacated by the resignation of
Jeanne Foster for a three year term. Nomination by
Councilman Vincenzi to fill the remaining term of Sandy
Sammons due to her resignation
Councilman Brown's appointment was continued until December 6th
due to not being at the meeting
Councilman Vincenzi moved to appoint Irene Mackie to the Librarv
Board, second bv Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 4 -0.
8. CONSENT AGENDA
There were no items to be discussed on the Consent Agenda at this
time.
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9. OTHER BUSINESS
There were no items to be discussed under Other Business at this
time.
10. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
B. Paralegal Matusick had nothing at this time.
C. City Manager Hooper had nothing at this time.
11. CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
There were no Citizen Comments/Correspondence at this time.
A. Tentative Agenda Items
There were no Tentative Agenda Items to be discussed at this
time.
12 . ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Rhodes
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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