04-04-2005 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEE TING
APRIL 4, 2005
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
1 . CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Paralegal Robin Matusick
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Excused
INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved at this time.
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/DONATIONS
There were no presentations at this time.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
Mayor Schmidt announced that Item 6A is being continued until the
May 2nd meeting.
The following citizen spoke:
Pat Card, 3019 Willow Oak Drive, presented the proposal for the
lease and subsequent purchase of the Regions Bank building. He
feels the City should be able to afford this out of the General
Fund revenues without increasing taxes. He spoke about
rehabilitating the current City Hall. Spending tax money on
Regions Bank will be a much better use than spending additional
money on a building that he feels should be torn down.
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Mr. Card went over the proposal from Regions Bank. For the first
year the payment would be $34,000 a month. For years two through
five the amount would be $41,666 with a final purchase price of
$10. He feels the building will be worth well over $4 million
five years from now. It will probably be about $2.5 million,
maybe a little more. He feels this building is the best solution
for the problem the City recognized over five years ago. The
Site Selection Committee met for a long time and the parcels that
were looked at have been sold and there is no other site that
meets the City's needs as well as this building does left in the
City. Dennis Ward is able to market this property to many others
and is therefore giving the City precedence again. He feels this
is the City's last chance to get it. This is a citizen's
initiative. Dave Ross and Mr. Card had to make one last attempt
to get the City to do the right thing. He feels this deal should
not be passed up. He asked Mayor Schmidt to accept this offer
for study and action by the Council and Staff. Their only
request is that they be invited to the meetings with the bank
when they negotiate finally on this.
Mayor Schmidt accepted the agreement. He thanked Mr. Card and
Mr. Ross for the effort they have put into this. For several
years now, a lot of us have looked to that bank building as being
the ultimate place we would like to be for the next twenty years.
Mayor Schmidt gave the proposal to City Clerk Wadsworth. He and
City Manager Hooper have talked and they feel they need to set up
a public hearing once the lawyer has looked at it and once the
meetings have been set.
City Manager Hooper asked if they are interested in this on May
2nd. He commented on the discussions he has had with City
Attorney Paul Rosenthal over the difference between a lease and a
purchase. City Attorney Rosenthal is aware that the discussions
in general are on-going. He hasn't seen the proposal but his
opinion is you can enter into a lease purchase agreement. There
are some conditions and caveats over how you do that. This has
been to the voters twice and he feels the proper way is to hold a
public hearing and disclose clearly without any doubt the payment
plans, how it would he paid for, the impact on the City's budget
and seek public input. You are wandering into territory where
the voters have said no twice. There is an alternative
financing.
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Councilwoman Lichter questioned if the figures are set in stone
or is there possibility of negotiation. Mr. Card stated what he
presented to the Council was a letter of intent. He would hope
that City Manager Hooper would be able to contact the bank at an
early point to make sure they only had to draft an agreement
once. Councilwoman Lichter wouldn't want to go to public hearing
until that was done. City Manager Hooper stated May 2nd allows
you some time to contact the bank. They have had a purchase sale
agreement with the bank and that is why he would suspect it to be
quick and effective to be able to talk to them and get an
agreement in front of the Council and that is when they would be
conducting the public hearing. Mr. Card informed Councilwoman
Lichter the reason City Manager Hooper would have had difficulty
discussing this with the people at the bank if he attempted to
was because the bank had an agreement with him that they would
present this to Council in an open forum. This is a citizen's
initiative and they would like to be involved beyond this point
when they are in negotiations with the bank if there are
negotiations.
City Manager Hooper informed Council if they are interested in
that discussion, they should go ahead and schedule it. They can
quickly work with the bank and have a draft there. City Attorney
Rosenthal will be present at that meeting. Everybody needs to
feel comfortable, including the bank.
It was the consensus of Council to hold the public hearing on May
2nd provided everything has fallen into place.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if there was discussion regarding work
that would have to be done to the bank to accommodate City Hall
and the Council Chambers.
Dave Ross, 2803 Needle Palm Drive, feels the citizens voted no
twice on a bond issue that required a tax increase. He has not
spoken to one person that has said we don't need a new City Hall.
When they said no, they said no to a tax increase. He doesn't
think they said no to a new City Hall. He apologized for this
being presented so late. He spoke to the Director of Real Estate
in Birmingham who worked with his legal department to draft this
up and he has received all of the approvals regarding the letter
of intent. There have been no negotiations between himself or
Mr. Card regarding the finite terms of the agreement. He is
expecting to enter into conversations with the staff immediately
to iron out the details of an agreement. This is a letter of
intent. They just outlined the basics.
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city Manager Hooper stated on May 2nd they will draft, negotiate
and bring Council back an agreement and then they will hold a
public hearing on that agreement and decide where to go with that
agreement.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated in that it comes back to the Council
on May 2nd can there be included figures or a plan for the
renovation of Regions.
City manager Hooper suggested doing a lease purchase. Take the
bank. Do renovations but do it over time and continue to use
this for a while. The second floor over there is usable for
office space. The downstairs is going to take some renovation.
There are some options and alternatives that are there.
Mayor Schmidt stated it would probably take them a year to build
their branch bank. city Manager Hooper didn't think they were
going to do that anymore. The property, in total, has been on
the market lately.
Mr. Card stated the President of Regions has made it clear to him
that Regions Bank is not leaving Edgewater. He commented on city
Hall being a good neighbor.
5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Lichter stated they received a letter from County
Councilman Jack Hayman about a traffic light being okayed at SR
442 and Air Park Road. She spoke of the Animal Facility being
located on Air Park Road if everything works out and the traffic
generated from this, as well as the Middle School.
Councilwoman Lichter also spoke about the paving of 35th Street
into Florida Shores.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on the Volusia League of Cities
Dinner in Daytona Beach Shores that she and Councilman Brown
attended.
Mayor Schmidt had nothing at this time.
Councilman Brown stated the reason the Mayor missed the Volusia
League Dinner is because he was given the Citizen of the Year
Award by the Elks Lodge.
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Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Rhodes thanked Pat Card and Dave Ross for all the
hard work they have done. She agreed with Mr. Ross that the
reason it was turned down was because of extra tax money. If
they can find a way to do this in our budget, then she feels they
would really be remiss not to do it.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 1st Reading, Ord. No. 2005-0-07, Halstead Resources
Inc. Requesting an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan
Future Land Use Map to include 2.3 acres of land
located at 2203 S. Ridgewood Avenue as Commercial and
High Density Residential
Councilwoman Lichter asked for the minutes from the Planning and
Zoning Board meeting where this was turned down.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to continue this item until May 2nd,
second by Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
7 . BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. Citizen Code Enforcement Board - nomination by
Councilwoman Lichter to fill seat due to the expired
term of Ben DelNigro, who requested reappointment
Councilwoman Lichter moved to reappoint Ben DelNiqro to the
Citizen Code Enforcement Board, second by Councilman Brown.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
8. CONSENT AGENDA
There were no items to be discussed on the Consent Agenda at this
time.
9. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Edgewater Harbor - staff recommending approval of the
Edgewater Harbor Phase I site plan on the condition
that all City staff and consultant comments have been
satisfactorily addressed
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City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation regarding the
Edgewater Harbor Phase I site plan. The commercial site plan
will be coming back to Council. Staff, as well as the Planning
and Zoning Board has recommended approval. All plans have been
submitted. There is an update of the construction plans that
were submitted this afternoon. This is ready for final approval.
Councilwoman Lichter complimented the organization, engineers and
architects on the work they have done.
Mayor Schmidt stated one of the most important parts of this will
be the burms on either side. He asked if they will be finished
from end to end even though the other buildings aren't going up
yet.
Katie Gierok, Gierok Engineering, stated they have put a burm on
the Boston Whaler side. They weren't required since it is
residential against residential on Hacienda's side to put a burm.
City Manager Hooper stated the copies of this plan also went to
Boston Whaler and they have had an opportunity to review it.
They have signed off on the burm. They have been a good partner
in trying to get this solved.
Councilman Vincenzi asked City Manager Hooper to address the
problems and concerns Boston Whaler had when this first came
forward. City Manager Hooper elaborated on the concerns about
odor and the cost sharing agreement.
Councilman Brown asked if the people buying this property are
being informed that there is potential of having the odor coming
into their condos. He spoke about including in their contract
that there will be no harassment calls. He asked if there is
anything covering that now to keep peace between people buying
the condos and Boston Whaler.
Ms. Gierok stated they put language in the contract that was
approved by Boston Whaler identifying that Boston Whaler exists
adjacent and that they don't have the right to sue.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke of Boston Whaler finding a new
solution. City Manager Hooper explained they are looking at
several different capital improvements.
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Councilman Vincenzi stated he was originally concerned that
Boston Whaler would have a lot of complaints and be forced to
move out because of those complaints. The legal contract really
doesn't make him feel better. The fact that they are making
improvements to the plant and eliminating the potential problem
is a good sign.
City Manager Hooper went over the site plan.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to recommend approval of the Edaewater
Harbor Phase I site plan on the condition that all City staff and
consultant comments have been satisfactorily addressed, second by
Councilwoman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
10. OFFICER REPORTS
A. city Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
B. Paralegal Matusick was excused from the meeting
C. City Manager Hooper had nothing at this time.
11. CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
The following citizen spoke:
Pat Card, 3019 Willow Oak Drive, stated several months ago he
mentioned to Council that he had a concern about the way that
properties would be assessed if the property had to be rebuilt
and about the possibility that people would have tremendous and
larger assessments and as a consequence double or triple their
taxes. There is a bill in the Florida Senate right now. If
Council has the opportunity to talk to the people they know at
higher levels in government, he suggested they definitely support
this bill.
A. Tentative Agenda Items
There were no Tentative Agenda Items to be discussed at this
time.
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12 . ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Rhodes
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 7:34 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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