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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 12, 2005
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING SPECIAL MEETING
8:14 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
1 . CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 8:14 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Paralegal Robin Matusick
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting of July 18, 2005
Counci~woman Lichter moved to approve the Ju~v 18, 2005 minutes,
second bv Counci~woman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
B. Regular Meeting of August 1, 2005
Counci~n Brown moved to approve the AUCTUst 1, 2005 minutes,
second bv Counci~woman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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C. Regular Meeting of August 15, 2005
Counci~woman Rhodes moved to approve the AUQUst 15, 2005 minutes,
second bv Counci~woman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/OONATIONS
There were no Presentations at this time.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, stated back in June Volusia
County raised their retention pond fees from $2.50 to $6 per
month. He commented on concerns raised at that meeting regarding
the raising of the fee $3.50. Mary Ann Connors at that time said
that private subdivisions that provide for both water quality and
flooding can apply for a credit of up to 68%. He asked if the
City has the same rules and if not why not and if not, he would
like to see a recommendation to get these rules applied.
City Manager Hooper stated you have some rules that allow if
onsite retention does water quality and water treatment that you
have a reduced rate. Once that water is treated but if it goes
through a public body to get to a natural waterway Indian River
in our case, they discharge to those ponds, those ponds go
through canals that the City maintains or that the homeowners do
not maintain, then there is no credit for that. You've got
pretty much a very antiquated system that has two tiers to it.
They are going to review these and bring to Council some
recommended changes to look at how that will be done. At this
time, we do not have that system.
Mr. Capria commented on Meadowlake Subdivision and Edgewater
Landing that purify their own. They spend a lot of money doing
their own. He questioned City Manager Hooper's answer regarding
as long as they are going in to the Indian River they do not
qualify. City Manager Hooper further clarified for Mr. Capria as
long as it goes through a public conveyance system to get to the
river or some other water body. It leaves Edgewater Landing and
goes through a series of canals to get to the river. Once that
occurs the City is maintaining those canals or some other agency
is maintaining those canals. It can go through the Mosquito
Control District.
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Mr. Capri a stated they go through all the canals on private
property. City Manager Hooper didn't think they did. Mr. Capria
mentioned something coming up now where they are asking the City
to clean some of the canals where once before it was refused.
City Manager Hooper stated they called, came in and met with him,
and showed him a plat. He showed them where they were city
dedicated. There is a long discussion and are working towards a
resolution on that in Edgewater Landing. At this point, they are
into City maintained or City owned easements.
Mr. Capria asked about the County going to the Indian River.
City Manager Hooper stated he doesn't know what the County tries
to do.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the City owning some of the
retention ponds in some of the subdivisions and some being owned
by the development itself.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on the entities that own them
paying the City for owning them. City Manager Hooper stated once
it is collected and treated, that water leaves under certain
storm events, that particular property. If it is going through a
public conveyance system the City has to maintain those.
Councilwoman Lichter stated her thought always was that Edgewater
Landing owned them but the City helped out with the large
equipment. City Manager Hooper stated years ago there was a plat
and they dedicated it to the City but Edgewater Landing maintains
it.
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, commented on the retention
pond behind his home in Meadowlake. A month ago they had
problems about maintaining that retention pond. He questioned if
the City owns that retention pond. City Manager Hooper stated he
wasn't sure and agreed to check the plat. Mr. Visconti stated
right now, they are maintaining it and keeping it clean. They
had St. Johns there and they were flabbergasted how clean it was
and what a beautiful retention pond they have. The Homeowners
Association is maintaining it and they have an aerator in it that
they pay for.
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John Cordeiro, 1515 Pine Tree Drive, stated there is a crisis in
Edgewater, Oak Hill and New Smyrna with teen suicide, gangs and
drugs. If this City would spend some money for the youth so they
would have something to do, maybe it would cut down on that. He
feels they should bring Vicki Keeps to a Council Meeting to
speak. This is a serious problem with our youth and evidently
not too many people know about it. He doesn't think they want to
spend the money either. They can either spend it now for the
youth to have things to do or they are going to spend it later.
Councilman Brown stated she is in the process of getting all the
information together and he asked her to present it to him when
she is done with it and he will bring it up during Council
Reports.
Councilwoman Lichter informed Mr. Cordeiro she is a member and
officer of the Drug Free Youth Group that cares for and worries
only about New Smyrna, Edgewater and Oak Hill. Drug Free Youth
gives cash to the YMCA when it is something relate to preventing
drinking or drugs. It gives to our Police Department and our
Recreation Department. They also provide a person in the middle
school to head off problems of names she gets from the fifth
grade teachers or potential family problems. They are very aware
that Volusia County as a whole being one of the lower income
counties have Drug and Alcohol and abuse problems. The Police
Officer's dog that just got killed, Cesar, was provided by Drug
Free Youth for the cost of $6,000. They just provided a new dog.
There is very much a concerned group of volunteers and eight or
nine board members with people representing the three cities that
are aware of the increased number of problems in our County.
5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Lichter thanked Steve Dennis of the Chamber of
Commerce for the Chamber Business Fair they had at Ace Hardware.
It was a very successful endeavor.
Councilwoman Lichter stated City Manager Hooper went to Oak Hill
to talk about possibly buying some water from Edgewater because
they don't have a CUP with St. John's and don't really have a
water supply and are getting into a dire situation over it.
Basically 3/4 of the meeting was with a firm that they want to
try to get to get grants and free water. That was their main
emphasis because they have so many wells that are polluting the
river that they may be a good candidate. The more problems you
have the more free money you seem to get.
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Councilwoman Lichter stated City Manager Hooper pointed out one
important thing. We don't have that much water to sell. We have
our own CUP and we have our own expansion and if they really want
to sit and talk business, there would probably be a very limited
amount. We wouldn't be selling it directly to Oak Hill but to
the County who has pipes that go to Oak Hill.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on the small businesses on
Hibiscus and Guava. For quite a few years, way back there used
to be a small businessman's group in the City. She feels this is
very necessary. Guava and Hibiscus have some very needed small
businesses. She feels the two streets don't look like they
should look. She doesn't think it gives an impression of good
looking area for small businesses. She suggested the Economic
Development Board could encourage them to get together to see
what they can do to about cleaning up those two areas. She
suggested a nice sign in the front saying the stores that are in
there would help. She feels sometimes they concentrate on the
new businesses more than the old ones. She thinks they need some
motivation to make those places look better.
Mayor Schmidt reminded everyone of the annual Fall Festival on
Saturday at 10:00 a.m. He encouraged everyone to come out and
support the Fall Festival.
Councilman Brown reported on the County Charter input meeting.
Basically what people were talking about was growth, the
environment, and they wanted more County input to the school
system from the cities so the schools had a better idea of how
and what schools they need to build and where they need to build
them.
Councilman Brown sat at the mentoring booth at the Business Expo
and he signed up four people for mentoring. He encouraged
anybody that is interested in mentoring to get in touch with him
or any of the schools. They really do need them.
Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
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A. Public Hearing, Richard Stonecipher, owner/Earthquake
Magoon's, 132 W. Park Avenue, requesting a Special
Activity permit for an Annual Biketoberfest Oyster
Roast to be held October 21 and 22, 2005
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve the Special Activitv permit
for an Annual Biketoberfest Oyster Roast to be held October 21
and 22, 2005 for Earthquake Maaoon's, second by Councilman
Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
B. Public Hearing, Pat Girvan, owner/No Name Saloon, 2001
S. Ridgewood Avenue, requesting a Special Activity
Permit with outdoor music for:
1) Benefit Poker Run for the family of Officer Roy
Nelson, Jr. to be held September 18, 2005
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Mayor Schmidt asked about the time of 9:00 p.m. being listed on
the Agenda Request under Staff Recommendations under Item 9.
City Manager Hooper clarified the time is actually 11:00 p.m.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
The following citizen spoke:
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, stated he understands the
No Name Saloon has changed hands a little bit and he
congratulated whoever owns it now because they took the sign off
the roof and they installed a new sign. It looks really good.
He hopes they do a little landscaping in the future to make it a
little more presentable.
Councilwoman Lichter stated and the fence is cleaned up and looks
better.
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Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Councilman Brown moved to approve the Benefit Poker Run for the
fami~y of Officer Roy Ne~son Jr. to be he~d September 18, 2005,
second by Counci~woman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
2) Confederate Flag Poker Run Activities to be held
September 25, 2005
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Mayor Schmidt asked about the firing of cannons or tanks.
assuming they are staying with the no firing of cannons.
Manager Hooper informed him that is correct.
He is
City
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Counci~woman Rhodes moved to approve the Confederate F~aq Poker
Run Activities to be he~d September 25, 2005, second by
Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3) Biketoberfest 2005 Activities to be held October
14 through 23, 2005
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. He notified
Council of some discussion about Code Enforcement and hours of
operation with regard to overtime.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
The following citizens spoke:
Debra Roqers, 510 S. Riverside Drive, asked if the bands go
inside after 9:00 p.m. City Manager Hooper informed her that lS
correct.
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Ms. Rogers then asked about no amplified sound after 11:00 p.m.
and suggested they make it no amplified past 9:00 p.m. City
Manager Hooper stated that had been in the requirements for the
last three years. This last year there was a request to be able
to announce certain events that go on after 9:00 p.m. but before
11:00 p.m. Council said let's try it for one year and didn't
have any complaints. They didn't break any of the noise
ordinances.
Ms. Rogers expressed concern with the speeding on Riverside Drive
due to the traffic and the bikers riding up and down Riverside
Drive. She asked if they will be able to have extra police
officers patrolling that road. City Manager Hooper informed her
they close Boston Road on the larger day events so they
discourage the traffic from going down Boston to Riverside.
Chief has set up his bike patrol that operates on Riverside Drive
and very quickly that word spreads and most of them do use US 1.
Ms. Rogers stated last year there was some device to measure the
level of sound. They said they would control it within a certain
level. She lives across from Menard May Park and can hear the
music all the way down there. When she has road her bike down
towards where the No Name is located on Riverside, the music is
very loud. What will be done to help control that. City Manager
Hooper stated what occurs are sound readings that are done on an
hourly basis. If they exceed the decibels that have been
described in the Land Development Code, they are notified. They
turn it down. If there is a repeat offense that occurs, there is
a citation issued. Generally they live within that. They have
had fewer and fewer complaints. In years past, that was a large
complaint with Code Enforcement. It seems to be very well under
control.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on still hearing the noise
depending on the way the winds are blowing.
Ms. Rogers stated it doesn't bother her or annoy her. She is
concerned with the residents that are in close proximity to the
No Name. She just wanted to make sure it is going to be the
same for this year. She is certain with new management they will
be very careful with the noise level too.
Jack Lever, 1625 Victory Palm Drive, stated he helps the No Name
out with their benefits and the owners are going to be putting up
side curtains on the stage to try to deter the band noise a
little bit.
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Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Counci~woman Lichter moved to approve the Biketoberfest 2005
Activities to be he~d October 14 throuqh 23, 2005, second bv
Counci~woman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
C. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2005-0-46, amending the
Firefighters' Pension Fund to bring pension plan into
compliance with State requirements and authorize
purchase of military and previous employment time
Paralegal Matusick read Ord. 2005-0-46 into the record.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Counci~n Vincenzi moved to approve Ord. 2005-0-46, amendinq the
Firefiqhters' Pension FUnd to brinq pension p~an into comp~iance
with State requirements and authorize purchase of mi~itarv and
previous emp~ov.ment time, second bv Counci~n Brown.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
D. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2005-0-15, JC & Rosemary Carder
requesting annexation of 24.26~ acres of land located
east of US1 and north of Godfrey Road - continued from
6/6/05, Item 6C
Paralegal Matusick read Ord. 2005-0-15 into the record.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Counci~woman Lichter moved to approve Ord. 2005-0-15, JC &
Rosemary Carder requestinq annexation of 24.26+ acres of ~and
located east or US1 and north or Godfrey Road, second bv
Counci~n Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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E. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2005-0-44, Visconti Construction,
LLC, agent for Bob Seifert/Diversified Flooring, Inc.,
requesting annexation of 2.44~ acres of property
located at 3609 and 3625 South US1 including vacant
parcels to the north and east
Paralegal Matusick read Ord. 2005-0-44 into the record.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Counci~woman Rhodes moved to approve Ord. 2005-0-44, Visconti
Construction, LLC, aqent for Bob Seifert/Diversified F~oorinq,
Inc., requesting annexation of 2.44+ acres of propertv ~ocated at
3609 and 3625 South US! inc~udinq vacant parce~s to the north and
east, second bv Counci~woman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
F. 2nd Reading, Ord. No. 2005-0-45, Visconti Construction
LLC, agent for Bob Seifert/Diversified Flooring, Inc.,
requesting an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan
Future Land Use Map to include 2.44~ acres of property
located at 3609 and 3625 South US1 including vacant
parcels to the north and east as Commercial and Low
Density Residential
Paralegal Matusick read Ord. 2005-0-45 into the record.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Counci~woman Lichter moved to approve Ord. 2005-0-45, Visconti
Construction LLC, aqent for Bob Seifert/Diversified F~oorinq,
Inc., requestinq an amendment to the Comprehensive P~an Future
Land Use Map to inc~ude 2.44+ acres of property ~ocated at 3609
and 3625 South US! inc~udinq vacant parce~s to the north and east
as Commercia~ and Low Densitv Residentia~, second by Counci~woman
Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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G. Res. No. 2005-R-12, adopting the National Incident
Management System (NIMS) concept of emergency planning
and unified command
Paralegal Matusick read Res. 2005-R-12 into the record.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Lichter feels the residents need a map of the escape
routes in case of an emergency. Councilwoman Rhodes feels that
is a good idea.
City Manager Hooper agreed to get with Fire Chief Barlow on this.
City Manager Hooper commented on a map that is put out by the
press, which identifies shelters and other areas.
Councilman Brown stated he asked Fire Chief Barlow to start
getting together phone numbers of different departments to call
during any emergency.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
The following citizen spoke:
Anthony Rivera, 3026 queen Palm Drive, stated he is finishing up
a Volusia County Citizen Academy and he gets nothing but good
marks about Fire Chief Barlow. The Emergency Operations Center
Director says Edgewater is the most cooperative city and works
with the other cities.
Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Counci~woman Rhodes moved to approve Res. 2005-R-12, adoptinq the
Nationa~ Incident Manaqement Svstem (NIMSJ concept of emerqency
planninq and unified command, second bv Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
7. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. Planning & Zoning Board - nomination by Councilwoman
Rhodes to fill a vacated seat
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Councilwoman Rhodes moved to appoint John Weiss to fill the
vacated seat on the Planninq and Zoninq Board, second by
Councilman Vincenzi.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
8 . CONSENT AGENDA
There were no items to be discussed on the Consent Agenda at this
time.
9. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Auditing/Financial Services - staff recommending
approval to enter into a three (3) year contract with
McDirmit Davis and Company, LLC to perform
auditing/financial services in the amount of $36,700
for 2005; $37,400 for 2006 and $38,100 for 2007, and
authorize the City Manager to execute the contract
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilman Vincenzi asked if the last two companies submitted
estimates for 2006 or 2007. Finance Director Williams stated the
last two firms did submit proposals but he wasn't sure the total
dollar amount but McDirmit Davis was the lowest submitted
proposal by far in all three years.
Councilman Brown asked how long we have had them. Finance
Director Williams stated this is the third year. Councilman
Brown asked about there being a conflict with them doing this
year after year. Finance Director Williams informed him not at
all.
Councilwoman Rhodes feels it is a good idea to change auditors
every few years so there is no conflict and you get a fresh eye
on things. She feels saving almost $4,000 is the best way to go
right now.
Councilwoman Licther moved to enter into a three (3) year
contract with McDirmit Davis and Company, LLC to perform
auditinq/financial services in the amount of $36,700 for 2005;
$37,400 for 2006 and $38,100 for 2007, and authorize the City
Manaqer to execute the contract, second bv Councilwoman Rhodes.
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The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
B. Professional Engineering Services - staff recommending
approval to enter into contract negotiations with
Professional Engineering Consultants, Inc; Quentin L.
Hampton Associates; B & H Consultants and Gierok
Engineering, Inc. to perform engineering services and
authorize the City Manager to execute the agreements
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked why there are no prices with this.
City Manager Hooper informed her because you can't ask for a
price on attorneys, engineering, surveyors and planners.
City Manager Hooper stated when you go out and say you want a
proposal then that priced proposal comes back to Council. It is
called quality based selections. It is State Statute that says
how you hire certain kinds. You aren't after the lowest bid, but
someone that can do the job and then you negotiate the price you
want with those individual firms.
Councilwoman Lichter moved to approve entering into contract
negotiations with Professional Enqineerinq Consultants, Inc;
Quentin L. Hampton Associates; B & H Consultants and Gierok
Enqineering, Inc. to perform enqineering services and authorize
the City Manaqer to execute the aqreements, second by
Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
C. Professional Surveying Services - staff recommending
approval to enter into contract negotiations with
Honeycutt & Associates, Inc.; Sliger & Associates.;
Upham, Inc; Allen Campbell & Associates, Inc. and
Southeastern Surveying to perform surveying services
and authorize the City Manager to execute the
agreements
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
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Councilwoman Rhodes moved to approve entering into contract
neqotiations with Honevcutt & Associates, Inc.; Sliqer &
Associates.; Upham, Inc; Allen Campbell & Associates, Inc. and
Southeastern Survevinq to perform surveying services and
authorize the Citv Manaqer to execute the agreements, second by
Councilwoman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
D. Purchase and Sale Agreement - staff recommending
approval of the purchase of 17.64 acres from the County
of Volusia in the amount of $285,800 for the water,
reclaimed, sewer and animal facilities and authorize
the Mayor/City Manager to execute the documents
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if this helps with reclaimed water
south of here. City Manager Hooper stated what this does is
brings the reclaimed water from the County's facility, pumps it
north. It will be recharged or apressurized here and will enter
into the Shores from the southern part of the service area. This
is part of the long range solution to get more water into the
southern part of the Shores and to cover some of the new
subdivisions between us and the County. Part of the Land
Development Code requirement will be all of the new subdivisions
will have to put in dry lines so when this becomes available all
they have to do is hook it up and open a valve.
Mayor Schmidt asked where the money comes from. City Manager
Hooper informed him it comes from the enterprise water and sewer
funds. It is split evenly. Quentin Hampton will do the design.
Council will see that come to them in a separate contract. They
are the firm that had done the preliminary design and the
planning. We are going to be contracting with them to do the
site plan and the improvements to the water and reclaimed system.
Councilman Brown moved to approve the purchase of 17.64 acres
from the Countv of Volusia in the amount of $285,800 for the
water, reclaimed, sewer and animal facilities and authorize the
Mavor/Citv Manager to execute the documents, second bv
Councilwoman Lichter.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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10. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk Wadsworth informed Council the newsletter
will be in with the utility bills starting with the
upcoming billing. It will be done monthly now instead
of bi-monthly.
B. Paralegal Matusick had nothing at this time.
C. City Manager Hooper had nothing at this time.
11. CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
There were no Citizen Comments/Correspondence at this time.
A. Tentative Agenda Items
There were no Tentative Agenda Items to be discussed at this
time.
12. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Rhodes
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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