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CITY
COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 16, 1999
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Allman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Randy Allman
Councilman James Gornto
Councilman Myron Hammond
Councilman Gary Roberts
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Attorney Nikki Clayton
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
city Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved at this time.
PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES
A. Presentation bv Economic Development Board Chairman Thomas
Alcorn addressinq annexation, an Emerqencv Identification System,
and tax increment financinq
Tom Alcorn, Chairman, Economic Development Board, explained some
items the Board has come up with that they feel should be looked
at by city Council. He spoke about annexation and informed
Council of a survey sent out by the Board.
Councilwoman Lichter asked what areas of Edgewater the survey was
sent to. Mr. Alcorn stated they looked along u.S. #1 south.
They did not go to the west but feel they probably should have
due to all of the industrial property going out Park Avenue.
Mr. Alcorn then spoke about an emergency identification system.
He spoke about problems that occurred when the tornado went
through New Smyrna Beach and people trying to get into the area.
There were 3500 vendors in the area offering their services. He
further spoke about people that own homes down here but actually
reside up north not being allowed into a neighborhood due to
their drivers license having an up north address on it and not
being allowed to let them back in unless it is verified they
actually own property. He further spoke about the businesses
that were impacted. He then spoke about people saying they were
a roofer or a builder and there being no way of knowing if these
people were licensed. There was no way to check on them. He
briefly explained the identification system that has been set up.
He asked to have Steve Dennis come out and present to Council
what is going on.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the Study Commission with
representatives from every city in Volusia County working on the
commonality of permitting contractors. Having one place to
register State and County contractors.
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Mr. Alcorn then spoke about tax increment financing. He spoke
about FIND and there being basic land value in there. Because it
is going by a governmental agency there are no taxes coming in on
that parcel of land. We want to get that back and have the tax
revenue coming in. The Board feels this would be a benefit to
the community. He feels the City Attorney Clayton and City
Manager Hooper should look at this.
City Manager Hooper asked if the Council would like him to place
these items on the agenda. They will describe cost implications
to do such. FIND concurs with the tax increment financing. He
thinks they would find tremendous support from the City and
County.
Councilman Roberts feels they should also look into it on u.s. #1
by defining a couple different districts in the business area.
He feels they may need to put someone on staff to handle this.
Mr. Alcorn does not feel we would need a full-time position but
it would take staff time to implement this. Councilman Roberts
asked how long it would take to create district lines and find
out what kind of tax revenue is available in each district.
City Manager Hooper elaborated on the process. He feels this
would be a Planning function.
Councilwoman Lichter feels we need to concentrate on small
businesses.
Councilman Roberts feels matching funds tends to encourage the
local business people to put money into their own business. He
believes that is the best way to approach it.
It was the consensus of Council to place this on the agenda for
September 13th.
Councilman Gornto asked Mr. Alcorn if he is familiar with
anything that has occurred in our community, negative things that
were on the drawing board regarding development and industry,
that were thrown into the trash can as soon as the County Council
voted on impact fees. Mr. Alcorn elaborated on what he knew.
Councilman Gornto asked if there is anything this Council can do
or the new Council that will be sitting here, in the next six
months, that will impact in a positive way commercial and
industrial development jobs into this area. Mr. Alcorn
elaborated on some of the simple things that Council may look at
such as the bonding authority the city has. He further commented
on different bonds.
Mr. Alcorn stated our biggest problem right now is we need to get
more industry in here so the people behind him aren't paying the
tax burdens of the area. He stated the people that own homes in
the City of Edgewater provide 83% of the taxes. Industry
provides 3.2%. Commercial is about 5%. In most areas, 60% of
the taxes comes from the industrial base.
David Dukett, Executive Director, YMCA, brought Council up to
date with what is happening with the YMCA. Currently, we are at
167 members within the facility. He informed Council they have
been conducting a marketing study over the past two months to
show whether or not it is feasible for a YMCA to locate within
the city limits of Edgewater. He went over the study with
Council.
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Mr. Dukett explained the executive committee is meeting this
evening and they are approving a proposal to move on to the next
stage which is hiring a campaign consultant. He stated a
campaign at this point must be approved by United Way and Volusia
County and can not start prior to November 15th since they are
currently in their drive. They will kick off the 1st of the
year, once the feasibility study is done.
Councilwoman Lichter feels there seems to be an emphasis on a
desire for an indoor pool more and that could be a very
attractive feature. She feels it makes sense to reconsider the
outside pool for an inside pool. Mr. Dukett feels that could be
addressed once they do the feasibility study. Councilwoman
Lichter feels it would be much more utilized if it was an indoor
facility.
City Manager Hooper informed Council we will be opening
construction bids this Thursday on the gymnasium. They will see
in the budget presentation how the funding will be combined
between the YMCA and the City to fund next year's operation of
that building.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, requested comments be made on
Item 6E before it is voted on.
Donald Price, Blue Gables Mobile Home Park Lot 11, read a
prepared statement regarding a 10% utility tax being collected
and pocketed on water bills from the tenants at Blue Gables. He
presented documents to City Clerk Wadsworth.
George Ewing, Royal Palm Drive, also requested that citizens be
allowed to make comments regarding Item 6E before it considered
by Council.
Ed Keenan, 1905 pine Tree Drive, complimented Mr. Alcorn for his
remarks. He spoke about letters that have been sent out and a
paragraph that was included in this letter regarding Edgewater
being interested in attracting foreign and domestic industries.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Mayor Allman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Gornto had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hammond spoke about citizens addressing him on Rhode
Island Street regarding tractor trailers going in there and a
fork lift loading these tractor trailers. They are concerned
about the road being broken up. It has been turned over to Code
Enforcement and nothing has happened. They would like to see
that addressed.
Councilman Hammond spoke about a few businesses phoning him
stating that after 5:00, a lot of these warehouses are opening up
at night. He thinks they need to get people out there to check
out some of these businesses that are running without permits.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if there are hours of limitation on
legitimate businesses being open in the evening. City Manager
Hooper explained there is a variety of circumstances under which
they can work.
Councilman Roberts spoke about a beautification project he has
been working on for Rotary Park. He made a presentation of a
concept he has come up with for Rotary Park.
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Councilwoman Lichter asked if they put money in their tentative
budget under beautification. City Manager Hooper informed her
yes.
Councilwoman Lichter informed Council the study group she has
been going to for a year and a half will be phased out in two
months. She feels it is important that they attend those
meetings.
Councilwoman Lichter praised City Manager Hooper who has been
attending the City Manager meetings. He feels an exchange of
ideas is good.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about three complaints she has
received from reclaimed water users in Florida Shores. She spoke
about people watering on the wrong days which affects the
pressure. She feels they need to get publicity and warning out
on this. She suggested spot checking.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about utilizing Rotary Park. She
informed Council the Animal Fair will be held September 18th.
There was a ten-minute recess at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 2nd Public Hearinq, Joe Martin (East Volusia Enqineerinq,
Inc.) Requestinq on behalf of Oscar Zeller and Julian Greene an
amendment to the Development Agreement
Mayor Allman presented the background information for this
request. Staff recommends approval.
Mayor Allman opened the public hearing.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Allman closed the public
hearing.
Councilman Roberts moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. 2nd Readinq, Ord. No. 99-0-16, staff recommendinq annexation
approval for 2.6 acres located at 3042 U.S. Hiqhway #1 (Furniture
Gallery)
Mayor Allman read Ord. 99-0-16 and opened the public hearing.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Allman closed the public
hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Ord. 99-0-16,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. 2nd Readinq, Ord. No. 99-0-18, staff recommendinq rezoninq of
2.6 acres located at 3042 U.S. Hiqhway #1
Mayor Allman read Ord. 99-0-18 and opened the public hearing.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Allman closed the public
hearing.
Councilman Hammond made a motion to approve Ord. 99-0-18, second
by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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D. 2nd Reading. Ord. No. 99-0-19. Modifyinq Chapter 10 (Health &
Sanitation). Article V (Weeds. Grass & Brush: Standards for
Property Maintenance) by amendinq section 10-95 (Notice of
Violation) & section 10-96 (Hearinq before Code Enforcement
Board)
Mayor Allman read Ord. 99-0-19 and opened the public hearing.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Allman closed the public
hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Ord. 99-0-19,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
E. 1st Readinq. Ord. No. 99-0-20. staff recommendinq Council
consider approval of the ballot lanquaqe/questions for
modifications to Charter for submission to the Elections
Department
Mayor Allman read Ord. 99-0-20 and opened the public hearing.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, spoke about Item c1 on Page
12. He asked how many registered voters are in Edgewater. City
Clerk Wadsworth informed him approximately 11,000. At the last
primary they had exactly 3,337 votes. He feels the 20% figure is
high.
city Attorney Clayton commented on this being discussed at the
last Charter Review Committee meeting. City Manager Hooper
informed Council how they handled the last Charter meeting.
Mr. Capria doesn't feel the 20% will work because of the low
number of votes from the last primary election.
Mr. Capria referred to Page 3 Part B regarding staggered terms.
He understands staggered terms but he doesn't understand four
year staggered terms. He feels if someone isn't doing the jOb,
you have to wait four years to get them out. If they are doing
the job, they would be re-elected.
Mr. Capria spoke about the minority report being inserted into
the changes to be voted on. He spoke about other minority
reports that were not inserted such as voting for districts.
Mr. Capria doesn't understand how the Council can vote for
something like this over the Board's objections. Four years as
an elected official is too long for a small City. Staggered
terms yes, four years no. city Manager Hooper explained you
either have four year terms, every two year elections or two year
terms, every year there is an election.
Ferd Heeb, 115 N. Riverside Drive, congratulated and commended
Council for fulfilling their campaign promise to appoint a
Charter Review Committee. He is disappointed Council decided not
to allow the citizens of Edgewater to decide whether they want to
limit the ability of future Councils to dramatically change the
geographical limits of the city without first seeking their
approval in a general election. He strongly urged Council to
reconsider this and put that recommendation back into this
ordinance. He read what the amendment would say regarding
limitations on annexation. He feels if the voters voted for this
it would diminish the City's ability to grow.
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Mr. Heeb spoke about section 3.13, which addresses the initiative
and referendum procedures, which was recommended by the Charter
Review Committee. He also spoke in opposition of Item c1. He
feels 5%, 600 signatures is a reasonable number. He feels it
should he dropped to a reasonable amount or eliminate it from the
amendment. He feels if you are going to place limitations on it
it is basically useless so why put it on the ballot.
Councilwoman Lichter asked what the original recommendation was
in percentage of signatures. Mr. Heeb stated it may have been
20%. This was one of the last issues discussed by the Committee.
The wording was a very difficult issue and ultimately the
Committee decided to use the wording of the uniform model
charter. He doesn't think anyone on the Council got more than
17% of the voters at the last election. To ask someone to get
20% of the voters to sign a petition is unreasonable and
unrealistic.
Councilwoman Lichter feels maybe the 20% is high for walking
house to house to get signatures but maybe there should be a
certain amount of people required to vote on a matter like this.
Mr. Heeb explained the provisions of this amendment provide that
all the petition gets for the people that go out and get the
signatures is the right to put that issue before the voters in a
general election.
Mr. Heeb feels all they are doing is giving the citizens the
ability to counteract an ordinance or to bring an ordinance
before the Council. Mr. Heeb feels it must be a daunting task
for someone to acquire 2400 signatures. Why put two pages of
amendment in the Charter if you are going to make the limitations
so stiff that no one can do it?
Mr. Heeb spoke in opposition to four year terms.
Councilman Hammond asked about the acreage for annexation and
asked if the State has where you can only annex ex-amount per
year without a public hearing. City Manager Hooper elaborated.
Mr. Heeb stated annexations of large parcels of land are not
things that happen in an instant and there is plenty of time to
promote it. He feels the citizens should decide whether they
want limitations on the geographical expansion of this city
without their approval.
George Ewing, Royal Palm Drive, referred Council to Page 12 Item
c1. He feels the citizens should be the ones to decide what
percentage they want. He spoke about the 20% not even being
mentioned on the ballot. City Manager Hooper explained the
ballot language is very specific on what can be and can't be and
the number of words. This whole ordinance is posted at the
polls. There is nothing secretive about this.
Mr. Ewing then referred Council to Page 16 regarding residency
requirements. He wants the citizens to decide whether residency
is required with or without Council's approval.
Councilwoman Lichter stated on the whole, their recommendations
have been taken.
Mr. Ewing then referred Council to Page 19 regarding a Charter
Review Committee being appointed every five years. He suggested
saying at least every five years and then that gives any Council
the opportunity to have a Charter Review Committee. He feels
Council should be in favor of this.
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Councilman Gornto stated this doesn't stop them from having one
every year. City Manager Hooper clarified they could do it every
year. Councilman Gornto stated they could do it every year, it
just must be done every five years.
Mr. Ewing stated we are having a vote on the Charter this year.
Why don't we make sure to include everything in this vote. He
feels a couple more items won't hurt.
Councilwoman Lichter feels they do not have particular issues in
each individual district. Our problems are in common.
She stated she ran on a goal of seeing that Edgewater became
unified and not divided. She feels we are a small enough City
with enough things in common. She feels everything is a
compromise.
Councilman Roberts feels if you are elected to council your job
is to look out for the citizens in every district, not just where
you live. We represent everyone in the city.
Mr. Ewing feels we should have term limits.
Councilwoman Lichter asked about a State case still in the works
regarding the State Florida Legislature because term limits were
enacted and it is being questioned. She feels if people are
doing a good job and the community is stable they should have the
right to leave them in.
Mr. Ewing asked if the County Council has term limits. He thinks
they do.
Mayor Allman stated it sounds like they have a Charter Review
Board that doesn't agree on anything they agreed on.
Mr. Ewing stated they agreed on everything except two or three
items. Mayor Allman feels 20% is too high and four year terms
are ridiculous. He spoke of it being very costly if they have to
have an election every year.
Councilman Gornto asked the percentage for a recall. Mayor
Allman stated there are a few people that should know that.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about staggered four year terms. She
spoke about stability in government. She then spoke about
candidates that may be interested in running. She spoke about
the price of running for a Primary not being cheap.
Mr. Ewing thinks if people are really interested in the city,
before they become Councilmembers they should be attending
council meetings for a year or two.
Mayor Allman stated the first meeting he attended he was sworn in
as Mayor. Look where we are today. This City has prospered. We
are in great shape. He is against four year terms. Don't say
just because someone doesn't appear at a meeting they don't know
what is going on. He saw what was going on and he didn't like
it. He decided it was time to change it. Nobody voted for him
last time, they voted against what they had.
councilman Hammond stated when he ran he wanted to see the
gymnasium. They haven't even broken ground. He is amazed how
slow it takes a city government to get something done.
Mr. Ewing stated on residency he approves what Council did on
promoting the people at that time because that was the only
available people. He thinks from now on, they need to change it.
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Councilman Roberts feels performance by the department heads is
more important than where they live.
Councilwoman Lichter asked what the next step is with this. City
Manager Hooper elaborated on the process.
Mayor Allman closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter stated if in a year or two they decide some
other issues should go on a special election that could be. city
Attorney Clayton stated yes.
City Manager Hooper spoke about having a Charter referendum with
numerous changes. When asked so many questions, the uninformed
voter usually votes no. The more streamlined number of questions
and the more specific yes and no answers, the better off.
Mr. Heeb stated the only issue they have brought here tonight is
whether some additional items should be on the referendum or not.
The wording and language that was drafted by City Attorney
Clayton and City Manager Hooper meets their approval.
city Manager Hooper suggested Council advertise the ordinance the
way it is and take the input from tonight and make the final note
next time.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Ord. 99-0-20,
second by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Economic Development Board Appointment - Mavor Allman's
appointment due to the termination of Nancy Ridner
Mayor Allman appointed Emery Chace to the Economic Development
Board.
B. General Employee's Pension Board Appointment - City Manaqer's
appointment of KathY Cornelius to fill the remaininq term of
Karen Rickelman. due to her resiqnation
Councilman Roberts made a motion to accept the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Gas Pump Replacement - Recommendinq to award the proiect to
supplY new qas pumps (card system) spill containment system and
canopy to Petroleum Technicians. Inc. ($45.719)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. This is included
in this year's budget.
Councilman Hammond moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Interlocal Aqreement - Recommendinq adoption of the
Interlocal Aqreement prepared by the cities between Volusia
County and its municipalities in reqard to the distribution of
the additional five cent qasoline tax
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. staff recommends
approval of the Interlocal Agreement.
Councilwoman Lichter moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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OFFICER REPORTS
citl Clerk Wadsworth reminded Council qualifying starts on August
23r and ends September 2nd.
City Attorney Clayton had nothing at this time.
City Manager Hooper had nothing at this time.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, asked what happens if the citizens
decide to change the Charter or not change it. She fails to see
what difference the Charter makes. She feels we are now being
governed not under the directives of the Charter we already have.
Ms. Hill asked about the ethics and professionalism of the City
Attorney. She spoke about a meeting a year ago when the City
Attorney brought to the attention of the Council and Manager
under Attorney comments an inverse action suit against the city
by Perry Barrett in the name of Associates of Meadow Lake in the
amount of $500,000. Ms. Clayton did excuse herself claiming a
conflict of interest and turned the matter over to Donna McIntosh
who had been handling this case previously for the City. She
stated something unusual happened that evening. Perry Barrett
was in attendance at the meeting. She looked at the agenda and
saw nothing that related to him and wondered why he was there.
She feels the citizens of Edgewater should be concerned with who
does this City Attorney represent. After the Council meeting,
she asked two councilmembers if the Attorney and City Manager had
briefed them prior to the meeting. They both said no. She asked
Mr. Grace the next day if he had been informed and he told her
Nikki Clayton came to his office ten minutes before the Council
meeting while Myron Hammond was there and informed him she would
bring this item up at the end of the meeting under attorney
comments. This was not on the agenda. It was apparent that
Donna McIntosh knew that Nikki was bringing this up at the end of
the meeting or she wouldn't have been there. She questioned who
told Perry. She assumed that directly or indirectly Ms. Clayton
had to have informed Perry. It is her understanding that if the
City did not challenge Mr. Barrett, and if this matter was not
answered by the City very quickly, the city could have lost the
case by default. This is a matter that should have been reported
to the City Manager and Council immediately. She stated one must
question Ms. Clayton's motives in not informing the City Manager.
She believes this constitutes a failure to keep good faith with
principles, in this case the City. She feels at the least she
has been negligent and at the most is guilty of malfeasance or
misfeasance. She also believes that in the case of Mr. Grace it
was question of him or her and Council quite obviously chose her.
You fired the wrong one.
Mayor Allman stated nobody fired nobody. Mr. Grace resigned.
Mayor Allman informed her her five minutes were up and asked her
to have a seat.
city Manager Hooper responded briefly. He stated any dealings
with Mr. Barrett have been primarily through himself. To date,
Mr. Barrett has been paid nothing.
Mayor Allman stated as far as Ms. McIntosh is concerned, let's
talk about qualifications. She didn't even know that he didn't
own the property. We went on for four years with an attorney
that is arguing a case where he didn't even own the property.
Ben DelNigro, 3130 Tamarind Drive, asked about the officer that
was fired for the pot that was found in her home. He feels she
should not be in the police department at all until she is
cleared of these charges.
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city Manager Hooper described the situation with Cheryl Anderson.
To date she has passed two drug tests. She has agreed to go to
any counseling.
Councilwoman Lichter asked when the court case was. City Manager
Hooper informed her the case has not been scheduled.
Mr. DelNigro feels she should not be in the Police Department
until she is found innocent.
Mr. DelNigro asked about all of the City employees taking drug
tests. City Manager Hooper spoke about the Drug Free Workplace
program. Those are in affect.
George Ewing, Royal Palm Drive, asked what the vote was on the
Charter. Mayor Allman stated changes would be discussed at the
second hearing. Mr. Ewing would like to see a vote on the
individual items.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Hammond
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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