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07-19-1999 - Regular ..,. .. ...", CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER REGULAR MEETING JULY 19, 1999 7:00 P.M. COMMUNITY CENTER MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Mayor Allman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the community Center. ROLL CALL Mayor Randy Allman Councilman James Gornto Councilman Myron Hammond Councilman Gary Roberts Councilwoman Judith Lichter City Attorney Nikki Clayton City Manager Kenneth Hooper City Clerk Susan Wadsworth Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Present Present INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the Flag. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Reqular meetinq of June 21. 1999 Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the June 21, 1999 minutes, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES There were no presentations at this time. CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY Steve Dennis, Executive Vice President, Chamber of Commerce, spoke about County Transportation Road Impact Fees. He urged Council to look at these and let the County Council know how they feel and how it will affect future economic development efforts. He expressed concern with these impact fees stunting growth in a community. Ed Keenan, 1905 pine Tree Drive, agreed with Mr. Dennis on how impact fees will affect trying to bring industry here. As a member of the Economic Development board, he has been looking at Forbes magazine where they could write letters about our new FIND park and other things about Edgewater. He feels they should start that as soon as possible. He suggested Council consider granting $1,200 to be spent by the EDB on mail outs. Councilwoman Lichter asked Mr. Keenan if the EDB as a whole was not given by the Manager some forms to fill out. City Manager Hooper explained they have a budget and have submitted the budget. Mr. Keenan stated if you don't go out and look for them, they don't come in by themselves. ~ ~ Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, stated someone has to pay for growth and it is going to come from higher taxes. When she builds a home she has to pay the impact fees. Why should industry be getting off scot-free? She asked Council to consider our base. We are a residential community. There is no doubt about it. Dick Jones, 1530 Sabal Palm Drive, stated he is solely against impact fees. He doesn't see why they should burden a company trying to come in here and getting established with additional fees just because he is coming in here. He sees no need for impact fees. He hopes the Council will support this and stay away from the impact fees. Dominic Capria, 606 Topside circle, also spoke about impact fees. He is also against the high cost of the impact fees as far as industry. He thinks everyone could get up and it wouldn't mean anything. He feels Council should make a decision on whether it is good for the City or not. If not, they should make a recommendation to the County Council. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS Councilman Hammond had nothing at this time. Councilman Roberts feels the impact fees are outrageous. You need some sort of revenue coming in as developers build but they have gone to the extreme where they are beginning to chase people off. He feels it is their obligation to look out for the people, the local business people and our economy. He believes these impact fees will stifle the growth that is needed to generate jobs and broaden our tax base. He asked Council to consider this. Councilman Roberts was hoping the Chamber of Commerce would get together with the other Chambers throughout the County to put influence on all City Councils as well as the County Council personnel that are looking at this issue and try to get them to reconsider what they are attempting to do. It could cripple economy in Volusia County. Councilwoman Lichter agreed with Councilman Roberts. She feels Volusia County has to be competitive with other counties that might offer more in terms of other resources. Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the Florida League of cities Legislative meeting on July 10th. The main speaker was Locke Burt. He is finance chairman of the Senate. He has said any grants Edgewater may want have to be in extremely early. He has offered the services of his office. Of 16 cities in Volusia County, three do not belong to the Legislative Group that was formed last year. We happen to be one of those. She feels it is important that they join the legislative forum next year for the County. She spoke of some of the goals of the Florida League of cities. Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the Amtrak meeting she attended in the Community Center. Edgewater is going to have a passenger train passing through this city in a few months. There will be a stop in Daytona Beach and Titusville. She spoke to Joe Daly who felt she should communicate with Amtrak in terms of a work train. She feels City Manager Hooper should bring this up at the next City Manager's meeting. She believes the City has a lease agreement with FEC that was renewed in 1991. She asked that this be researched to find out what the status is. Page -2- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 '-' .."", Councilwoman Lichter spoke about a stretch of the railroad where FIND has put in for permitting with East Coast. She is hoping they can look into this before the Amtrak train comes through Edgewater and what extra precautions they can take. Mayor Allman had nothing at this time. Councilman Gornto had nothing at this time. PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS A. Public Hearinq - Mark Veenstra. McKim & Creed. seekinq acceptance of a Master Plan for the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) Industrial Park. and approval of part B of the contract for desiqn documents for Phase I City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Mayor Allman opened the public hearing. Mark Veenstra, McKim & Creed, made a presentation regarding the Master Plan for the FIND Industrial Park. The Master Plan consists of two phases, Phase I being their responsibility and Phase II being our responsibility. Mr. Veenstra spoke about the environmental aspects of this project. He spoke about the traffic generated by this potential project. Mr. Veenstra further spoke about sewer, stormwater, and geotechnical investigations that were done on the site for potential sinkholes. All of the soil reports came back fairly good in terms of groundwater and soil type. They also did a tree survey. Councilman Roberts asked how quickly the bids would be ready to go out for bid to put in the infrastructure and when would they break ground. Mr. Veenstra stated he thinks they had eighteen weeks for the design from authorization. Permitting might be a little longer, one or two months. Advertising for bids would be done after that. Councilman Roberts asked if both phases would be permitted at the same time as far as with st. John's or would they go with Phase I and get the infrastructure in there at that point. Mr. Veenstra stated they would have to look at that very carefully. There is some advantage of trying to do it all at once. Councilman Roberts spoke about the road connection into the college being done in Phase I and be a great asset to the City. City Manager Hooper stated Mr. Webster is here and part of what is being described impacts the cost. They are paying a total of Phase I with Phase II encroaching into the City. If we advance some of the funding to do Phase II, particularly the permitting, it is in our benefit. He thinks FIND is probably looking to the city to pick up that cost. Councilwoman Lichter asked about Phase I being their responsibility and Phase II being theirs. City Manager Hooper informed her that is correct. Councilwoman Lichter asked about offsite contributions and if there are any homeowners who will be affected by this. Mr. Veenstra elaborated on Councilwoman Lichter's concerns. Councilwoman Lichter asked what phase the sanitary sewers are in and who pays for the two pumping stations. Mr. Veenstra informed her they are both in Phase I. Page -3- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 ~ -' councilman Gornto asked how many acres are in the industrial site on the upper end of Phase I. Mr. Veenstra stated it is between 20 and 25. Councilman Gornto asked about that industrial site being owned and sold by FIND. Mr. Veenstra stated it is no different than the rest. Councilman Gornto asked if there have been discussions with the City of New Smyrna Beach as to why we can't have a cul-de-sac at the end of that road and why it can't go on to 10th Street. Mr. Veenstra elaborated on Councilman Gornto's concerns. There was a brief discussion regarding this being an Edgewater project. Councilman Gornto spoke about there being an exit onto 10th Street from the college and feels this is also a New Smyrna Beach project. There was no direct discussion with New Smyrna Beach. City Manager Hooper informed Council of a discussion he had today with New Smyrna Beach. If they wish to bring it up and discuss it, New Smyrna Beach would be open minded about it. Councilman Gornto feels this needs to be looked at. It appears to be in the best interest of the project. Councilman Gornto spoke about the original documents concerning this project. He stated when they settled with the FIND people, he specifically remembers that any power producing or transmitting company could service this industrial park. Mr. Veenstra's report indicates they have already talked of Florida Power & Light and they have made a report that they would be glad to serve. Mr. Veenstra explained what they were trying to do initially was to look at if adequate power is available to this site. Their electrical engineer spoke to Florida Power & Light because they already serve the City of Edgewater. Councilwoman Lichter asked how the train track factors in and what type of permit they are asking for. Mr. Veenstra explained they are asking for a permit right now on Mango Tree Drive to have a crossing there. City Manager Hooper stated in Phase II or as we go to the south and west, the City will be looking at a railroad crossing that is not part of FIND. City Manager Hooper asked Mr. Webster if he had anything from FIND. Mr. Webster stated most of their concerns have been addressed and their discussions with staff have been very productive and it is moving ahead. He feels it would be best if the City were to authorize the design for Phase II so they could proceed with permitting all at one time. He feels they could save money and make everything work together much more efficiently. Mayor Allman asked for public comments. Nora Jane Gillespie, 1719 willow Oak Drive, stated Natural Gas runs to Park Avenue in that location. The pipelines run through Edgewater Acres. He spoke about relocating birds and coming back with landscaping such as suitable brush for their environment. Mayor Allman closed the public hearing. City Manager Hooper stated he would come back on the next agenda with a proposed price for Phase II. He feels it would be the smartest use of the moneys if they were to permit Phase II and design it and have it ready. Councilman Roberts asked if there is any grant money on the State level available for this. We got shot down on the Federal level. city Manager Hooper stated he is sure there is money. That is what they will be looking to do. Page -4- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 'w' .." councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the Master Plan, the Industrial Park, and approval of contractor design documents for Phase I, second by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0. City Manager Hooper stated Planning Director Lynne Plaskett will show Council the two options on the road for Dale street and John street. Staff's interest at this point is we have a developer coming in on Dale Street who has offered to dedicate and give the City the right-of-way. There is a water main along that road and tie that in as it hits back to the road. That is becoming the preferred alignment in the road from an environmental and stormwater point of view. He also asked Council to approve this as the selected route for the southwest entrance into Phase II. Ms. Plaskett explained staff refers to this as Phase III. She further elaborated on what they would need to do. Both property owners facing on Park Avenue are willing to discuss this. They are looking for direction from Council as to whether they would prefer to extend to John Street or to extend to Dale Street. There was a brief discussion regarding the infrastructure that exists on Dale Street. Councilman Gornto made a motion to extend to Dale Street, second by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0. B. Res. No. 99-R-11. Requestinq approval to announce primarv Election date of October 5. 1999. and General Election date of November 2. 1999. declare dates of voters reqistration closinq. settinq qualifvinq schedule. approvinq aqreements with Volusia Countv Elections Department. and appointinq canvassinq board Mayor Allman read Res. 99-R-11 and opened the public hearing. Due to there being no citizen comments, Mayor Allman closed the public hearing. Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Res. 99-R-11, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0. C. Res. No. 99-R-12. Requestinq ap?roval to modify and replace security procedures currently beinq utilized for absentee ballots Mayor Allman read Res. 99-R-12 and opened the public hearing. Due to there being no citizen comments, Mayor Allman closed the public hearing. Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve Res. 99-R-12, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0. D. Res. No. 99-R-13. Requestinq resolution approval to forward the amended Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) to the Department of Community Affairs (DCA) Mayor Allman read Res. 99-R-13 and opened the public hearing. city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve Res. 99-R-13, second by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0. E. Res. No. 99-R-15. Requestinq approval of utility Aqreement between the city of Edqewater and the State of Florida Department of Transportation for utility relocation desiqn work for the city by FDOT Consultant City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Page -5- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 '-' .."" Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Res. 99-R-15, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0. CONSENT AGENDA A. Economic Development Board Appointment - Councilman Hammond's appointment due to the termination of Daniel Lewis (Tabled from June 21. 1999) Councilman Hammond appointed Roland Bazin to the Economic Development Board Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda, second by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0. OTHER BUSINESS A. Special Activity Permit - No Name Saloon. 2001 S. Ridqewood Avenue. requestinq Council approval to hold their second Annual Oktoberfest from October 21st throuqh October 23rd City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Staff had no objections and recommends approval. Councilwoman Lichter asked if they would be having pudding wrestling again this year. Mr. Girvan spoke of what a success the event was last year. They had no problems whatsoever. There was a brief discussion regarding the music and what time it will be played until. There were no public comments at this time. Councilman Gornto asked about the motorcycle hanging between two palm trees. Mr. Girvan explained the reason the motorcycle is hanging up. Councilman Roberts feels one of the key issues is to make sure the noise isn't overpowering the neighborhood. Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 3-2. Mayor Allman and Councilman Gornto voted NO. B. Detached Garaqes - Recommendinq the review and selection of requirements for detached qaraqes on residentiallY zoned property city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. He presented three alternatives to Council. He recommended alternative number three or something very close. Councilman Roberts asked about the 30% lot coverage being included in alternative number two even though it is not listed. City Manager Hooper explained it can not exceed 30%. This should be included. Councilwoman Lichter explained why she feels very positively for alternative number three. Mayor Allman commented on why he sees no reason to change this. Councilman Roberts doesn't feel the restrictions would be a problem. He feels 25 feet is more than adequate to house boats that people use along the river and ocean within reason. Anything larger than that needs to be stored in an industrial park. Councilwoman Lichter feels all codes infringe to some degree. Page -6- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 ..., ...., Pat Nollenburg, 506 Starboard Avenue, feels beautification of the City and the overall aesthetics needs to be considered. She feels Council needs to consider the owner's rights to do what he wants with his property but she thinks it behooves the owner to consider his neighbors throughout the entire City and feels they should go with alternative three. Michael Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, stated when he came into this community, Florida Shores did not have paved roads. He spoke about having consideration for neighbors. There are laws and codes they just need to be reinforced. He informed council of the beautification awards given out by the Recreation/Cultural Services Board. He believes you should be able to do what you want with your property but you should also have respect for your neighbors and keep your place clean. Bob Garthwaite, 10 Lee Drive, feels these garages are too big. On Yule Tree and the 2100 block a man has built a home with three garages. The garages are no taller than his home and they look beautiful. He spoke about the building on 21st and Travelers Palm Drive being hideous. He feels alternative number three is close but still needs to be even more restrictive. Florida Shores is a residential area, not a storage area. He feels mobile homes should be in public storage. Paul Jenkins, willow Oak Drive, feels 25 feet is reasonable. He thinks number three is unfair to a person who has a small house and wants the same size garage as his neighbor down his street. He shouldn't be forced to increase the size of his house in order to get the larger garage. He feels number two is a better compromise. He feels the people have a right to keep their toys at home. Pat Nollenburg, 506 Starboard Avenue, feels it is the City Council's part to set an example. Somebody has to set an example and someone has to enforce the codes and somebody has to start the parade for pride in our city. She feels Council needs to set limits for everybody. Richard Jones, 1530 Sabal Palm Drive, has been appalled when hearing about putting a 35 foot garage in a residential zone. He doesn't understand the thought behind the people who originally approved them for having that done. He believes in allowing people to do what they can within limits. He asked Council to put reasonableness in their efforts. Councilman Hammond agreed with Councilwoman Lichter and Councilman Roberts on proportioning. councilman Hammond stated the highest garage in Florida Shores is 26 feet. He feels it should be proportional to the home and you have to have some standards. He feels this is a good start. Councilman Hammond made a motion to go with Alternative #3, second by Councilman Roberts. Mr. Garthwaite stated he went down ten streets in Florida Shores and he counted homes which had extra lots. Of these ten streets he came up with 34 sites that are potentials for these type of buildings. He feels if more of these buildings go up it will lower the value of the homes. The motion CARRIED 5-0. C. Druq Free Workplace Premium Credit Proqram - Recommending city Council authorize the city Manaqer to establish a formal druq-free workplace proqram and file for the premium credit city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Page -7- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 '-" 'WfII' Councilman Roberts moved for approval, second by Councilman Gornto. The motion CARRIED 5-0. OFFICER REPORTS City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time. City Attorney Clayton had nothing at this time. There was a seven-minute recess at this time. City Manager 2) Cost of addina marquee to existina sign in front of station ~ City Manager Hooper informed Council of the station #55 sign addition. The request is to spend $2,168.00 to have the sign manufactured and installed. He requested approval of Council to do such. Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0. 1) Charter update - proposed lanauage for ballot auestions City Manager Hooper went over a draft ordinance regarding the revised Charter language. Tomorrow this will be given to the members of the Charter Review Committee. The first meeting in August will be the first public hearing and the second meeting in August will be the second public hearing. The Council has until the 1st of September to authorize this to go on the ballot. City Manager Hooper spoke about the Blighton property the city is purchasing out by the Water Treatment Plant. That property has been negotiated and are willing to settle for the price the City offered. The Bond resolution requires the city identify the property and purchase is eligible for impact fees. The property will be used for water projects and sludge disposal in a different portion of the site. Staff recommended Council authorize the use of water and sewer impact fees for the purchase of that property consisting of 38 acres. Councilman Roberts asked about the funds that are supplied by impact fees. He asked if this is current cash on hand or is City Manager Hooper proposing future impact fees. City Manager Hooper stated it is current cash on hand. There will be no borrowing. Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0. city Manager Hooper asked Council for authorization for the Mayor to sign a letter to the Volusia County Council expressing our concern and opposition to the increasing or implementation of impact fees for industrial property that have had an exemption for the last few years. He will be drafting the letter and requested the Mayor be authorize to send it. The opposition would be for everything they have proposed to increase. City Manager Hooper stated this was discussed at the City Managers meeting today and all of the cities are going to be taking this to their City councils in the next week or so. steve Dennis, Executive Vice President, Chamber of Commerce, informed Council of the Chamber's position on this. The Chamber is supporting the continuation of the fees that were established for the moratorium. They are asking the Council to remain at the level that was established for the moratorium. Page -8- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 ~ 'WJI Mr. Dennis stated the Greater Halifax Chamber, Ormond Chamber, and Deland Chamber are also supporting maintenance of the moratorium level of the impact fees. Councilman Roberts spoke about the gas tax. He is concerned with the way it will be distributed. If we are stuck with a 12 cent tax it should be put together as a whole and distributed fairly throughout the County to all of the cities for road use and so forth. He feels the City should be pressuring County Council to implement a fair plan to distribute those moneys by abolishing the first agreement on the seven cents and coming up with a new plan to distribute the 12 cents as a whole. City Manager Hooper explained that was the purpose of the City Managers today to talk of such. There is an agreement for the first seven cents that runs through the year 2002 that is in place on the books. The County said that is mandated and they can't change it. The next 5 cents. There is a choice of making an entirely new formula, going by that formula or letting the state formula. The city Managers proposed to take back to their Councils to adhere to the current seven cents until 2002 and readdress all twelve cents at that time. He comments on why other cities are unhappy with the current allocation. Councilman Hammond made a motion for City Manager Hooper to draft a letter against impact fees and that it goes with the continuation of the existing moratorium and authorization for the Mayor to sign it, second by Councilwoman Lichter. Councilman Gornto asked that it be given to each County Council member. Councilwoman Lichter stated they haven't seen Jim Ward in a while. Councilman Gornto stated he spoke to him and he is on the City's side. Councilman Roberts also asked that a letter be sent to Mr. Arrington. The motion CARRIED 5-0. City Manager Hooper spoke about discussion in the newspapers about water service and sewer service in Southeast Volusia County, namely around the area of Oak Hill. The County has designed a wastewater facility plant, they have bought property, they were to build and construct this plan and service this plant from an area similar to as the city did with an assessment program. Last week the County opened bids for the construction of their wastewater plant. There's will cost about $6.60 per gallon to build. To buy it from us it's about $4.50. Our cost is much cheaper for capacity. The bottom line is the County Council will hear a presentation on Thursday from County staff saying if the County is to build this plant, they are recommending they only build it if the assessment program is alive and they have customers. If they do not wish to mandate those customers and hookup, they are looking for the City of Edgewater to either provide them wholesale service or just take over the small package plants the County has bought a long u.s. #1. This is an update. This is not a commitment or something from the County Council. They have concluded it is in the best interest of the city and County if the city provides service only in the event they don't build that plant. If they build that plant, then he is interested in the City of Edgewater providing water to that whole area as a region and then sewer service being provided by this new facility and plant. No one is committing anything at this point for the City except negotiating possibilities and all of those options are coming back. Page -9- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 ~ ...., Councilman Gornto asked of the County Council being aware of the bids going out. Mr. Wadsworth was present at that meeting and they were very taken back by the fact that staff went ahead and rebid the plant. The staff's position was they couldn't give them a final good cost estimate without rebidding the plant, the water lines and the sewer lines. GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, asked Council to please use the microphone when they speak. Mr. Visconti spoke in opposition to the No Name Saloon's request for the Oktoberfest. He feels the gentleman should have taken his hat off for respect to the Council. Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, spoke about the streets in Edgewater Landing. He brought this up a month ago and has not gotten a response. He believes it is the City's responsibility to take care of their streets. city Manager Hooper stated there is a developer agreement identifying who is responsible for taking care of landscaping and so forth. Minimum standards, in Edgewater Landing, they want it to look better than the normal streets in the City of Edgewater. When the City takes care of it it is to minimum standards. Edgewater Landing wishes to enhance it and make it better so they have a homeowners association that pays dues and they maintain it to a better standard. Councilman Roberts asked if these are public roads. The security guard at the entrance said they are open to the public and they do not have a right to stop people from driving in and out. Mr. capria stated they are not security guards, they are informational officers. Councilman Roberts asked what the plans are for the roads since day one when they proposed Edgewater Landing. City Manager Hooper stated they are public roads. The City reviewed and approved them. The City did not take them over in accordance with the developers agreement for maintenance. The developer's agreement is for beautification and aesthetics. Mr. Capria would like to see where this is stated in the agreement. There is no reason why the their committees cannot work in conjunction with the City workers to keep it that way and not have them pay for having it done which they are doing. Councilman Roberts would like to see the original developer's agreement and when it was proposed for the city to take over. City Manager Hooper stated they will review the agreement and present a brief report at the next Council meeting. Councilman Roberts asked if the acceptance of the roads was done by resolution. city Manager Hooper stated it was either done by resolution or by plat. councilwoman Lichter spoke about roads, stormwater, and the people at the gates being reinstructed just to say may I help you. Councilman Gornto asked about solicitation laws in Edgewater Landing. Councilwoman Lichter spoke about there being no solicitation in Edgewater Landing. Page -10- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999 .... ...., Ed Marr, 636 Ports ide Lane, Board of Directors for Edgewater Landing. The roads are public with the exception of the clubhouse entrance and the abandonment on Starboard Avenue at the end. They are proud of their streets, medians and cul-de-sacs. They do not want to see them change and they will take care of them themselves at their expense. Ed Keenan, 1905 pine Tree Drive, enjoyed the discussion about the problem with the water and sewer down south. Joe Haggin, 708 Starboard Avenue, stated everyone is always talking about beautification and asked why the medians in front of Eckerds and Winn Dixie look so terrible. She stated they are an eyesore. City Manager Hooper stated the City is looking at modifying medians along u.S. #1. They have started with the two northern medians and then they will do the two southern medians. The medians at u.S. #1 and SR 442 are going to be torn up when SR 442 is brought in. They aren't going to spend the money to upgrade the medians. Ms. Haggin stated she understands they wouldn't upgrade them but feels the medians are neglected. Councilwoman Lichter further spoke about beautification and presented some ideas. Councilman Roberts feels the main problem is irrigation. There is no water in these medians. He spoke about the cost to get water to the medians being more than the plantings themselves or the maintenance. Ms. Nollenburg stated xeriscaping will answer a lot of the irrigation problems. She asked if considerations are taken for that. She asked if the City has a landscape person or someone that knows about plants. city Manager Hooper stated xeriscaping works to some degree but it is not particularly what most residents want to see when they drive along. Councilwoman Lichter stated they all want the city to be beautiful. Not only aesthetically lovely but it also helps economic development. We are dealing with a road that is not ours to put anything in we want. This is a very important factor. You are dealing with State permits and State money. Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, asked when the reuse water will be brought across to the east side of u.S. #1. City Manager Hooper stated he does not see this in the foreseeable future it is going to be there. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Gornto made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m. Minutes submitted by: Lisa Kruckmeyer Page -11- Council Regular Meeting July 19, 1999