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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 6, 2000
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Legal Assistant Robin Matusick
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Soecial Meetina of Seotember 27. 2000
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve the September 27,
2000 minutes, second by Councilwoman Rhodes. The motion CARRIED
5-0.
PRESENTATIONS I PROCLAMATIONS IPLAOUES ICERTIFICATES/DONATIO NS
There were no presentations at this time.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
There were no citizen comments at this time.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Lichter informed Council at the last Anti-Litter
Committee meeting they decided their efforts would be frugal if
they don't have backup from the City. They cleaned on Roberts
Road and u.S. 1 and for all of three days it looked beautiful.
Councilwoman Lichter feels the City could use a couple of signs
that say littering will be fined and suggested some surveillance.
She also feels they need an ordinance about littering. They also
need the City to become involved.
Councilwoman Lichter went to a League of Women Voters meeting to
hear one of Volusia County's Planners Kendall Keith who was
talking about planning in our County and how things can be
planned without damaging the aquifer and animal life. He
represented the Growth Management Commission. She sometimes gets
confused with all the groups that are involved with the planning
process. She asked if Ms. Plaskett would be able to make a rough
draft of who does what and who can enforce things.
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
Councilman Brown spoke about the medians on u.S. 1. He feels
they are is coming along beautifully.
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Mayor Schmidt spoke about a letter he received in the mail
complimenting Florida Supply & Cleaning at 1710 Industrial Road
for the beautification improvements that have been made.
Mayor Schmidt spoke about an item in the newspaper he noticed
regarding the City of South Daytona. The Mayor was his football
coach twenty years ago at Spruce Creek. The City of South
Daytona came up with a Code of Ethics for coaches, parents,
umpires, and players of their city sports. He feels this is a
great idea. He feels it is dictated now and warranted now that
they put something like this in place. He would like everyone to
get a copy of this and for it to be placed on their next agenda.
City Manager Hooper stated he gave that to Mr. Corder this
afternoon and he is going through it. We have documentation that
is similar but it will be updated and it will be placed on the
next agenda.
City Manager Hooper stated at the previous Council meeting,
Councilman Brown brought up that he was interested in having Oak
Hill, New Smyrna Beach and Edgewater to meet. He asked Council
if they wanted to schedule something and if so, when.
Councilwoman Lichter would like to know why first. City Manager
Hooper stated probably one of the larger and most prominent would
be dispatch. Growth would also be an item including the local
joint planning area agreement. The Chamber has offered to host
such a meeting before if Council is interested in doing it that
way. Councilwoman Lichter would also like to see an exit to the
west.
Mayor Schmidt would like to see them get together before the
holidays.
Councilwoman Lichter would also like to see them discuss the
recreation complex.
City Manager Hooper informed Council they would work with them
and see if they can come up with something in early or mid-
December.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-23. Annexation and Aqreement
relatinq to Massey owned properties located south of Park Avenue
east and west of the Landinq strip. includinq property located in
Massey Ranch Airpark. Units I - II (approximatelY 116 acres).
City Manager Hooper made a brief staff presentation and referred
to a map showing the areas that are being proposed to be annexed.
Staff recommends approval.
Legal Assistant Matusick read Ord. 2000-0-23.
City Manager Hooper stated he met with the County last Friday and
one of the questions was the realignment of Airpark. The County
is still interested. We have consultants looking at what it
takes to realign flagging the wetlands. The other part was
paving from Airpark at the southern end of the runway as it
continues south. The County is going to break that into two
jobs. They will pave as is from the south of the runway all the
way down to Mission.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
Katherine Hutchinson, resident of Airpark Road, asked for a time
frame on the paving. City Manager Hooper stated County staff
told him they were going to pave the part south of the runway no
later than March and the realignment will probably take another
six to eight months before that part is paved.
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There being no further comments, Mayor Schmidt closed the public
hearing.
Councilman Brown made a motion to approve Ord. 2000-0-23, second
by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-24. Dennis Clark. owner.
annexation reqardinq property located at 541 Skyway Drive
(aooroximately 2.5 acres)
C. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-25. Garry Haiek. owner.
annexation regardinq oroperty located at Lots 4 and 5. Massey
Ranch Airoark. 1025 & 1029 Flyinq M Court (aooroximatelY 2 acres)
D. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-26. John S. Massey. owner.
annexation reqardinq orooerty located at Lots 9 & 12. Massey
Ranch Airoort. 1000 & 1009 Flyinq M Court (a~oroximatelY 2 acres)
E. 2nd Reading. Ord. No. 2000-0-27. Marquerite and David
Cummock. owners. annexation reqardinq orooerty located at Lot 19.
Massey Ranch Airoark. 1028 Flyinq M Court (aooroximatelY 1 acre)
F. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-28. Patrick DonnellY. owner.
annexation reqardinq property located at Lot 20. Massey Ranch
Airoark. 1032 Flyinq M Court (aoproximatelY 1 acre)
G. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-29. Dennis Clark. owner.
annexation reqardinq orooerty located at Lot 21. Massey Ranch
Airoark. 1036 Flyinq M Court (aooroximatelY 1 acre)
H. 2nd Reading. Ord. No. 2000-0-30. Vauqhn Crile. owner.
annexation reqardinq orooerty located at Lots 1 and 2. Massey
Ranch Airoark. 1037 & 1041 Flyinq M Court (aooroximately 2 acres)
I. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 2000-0-31. James & Cynthia Russell.
owners. annexation reqarding property located at Lot 16. Massey
Ranch Airoark. 1016 Flyinq M Court (aooroximately 1 acre)
J. 2nd Reading. Ord. No. 2000-0-32. Anthony & Lorie Guarnieri.
owners. annexation reqardinq prooerty located at Lot 10. Massey
Ranch Airoark. 1005 Flvinq M Court (approximatelY 1 acre)
K. 2nd Reading. Ord. No. 2000-0-33. Gilbert & Teresa M. Tweed.
owners. annexation reqardinq orooerty located at Lots 11 and 13.
Massey Ranch Airoark. 1001 & 1004 Flvinq M Court (aooroximatelv 2
acres)
Legal Assistant Matusick read Ord. 2000-0-25 through Ord. 2000-0-
33.
City Manager Hooper explained this area is on central water.
Central sewer will not be applied to these lots. These lots are
larger and have existing septic tanks that work fine. Central
sewer is being put into the balance of the annexed property so as
future development occurs the City is installing the backbone of
the system. Mr. Massey is putting in the lift station for the
future development.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Councilman vincenzi moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
L. Res. No. 2000-R-15. staff recommendinq aooroval of a
Reimbursement Resolution authorizinq the City to make purchases
from existinq cash and reimbursinq the oaoer accounts with bond
oroceeds.
city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
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Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
Legal Assistant Matusick read Res. 2000-R-15.
City Manager Hooper explained this authorizes us to reimburse
those funds from which these expenditures are going to be made.
The next step is they will put together a proposal to approach
banks so we will have competitive bids over low interest loans to
the City. That will also be brought back to Council.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if this is set in stone. City Manager
Hooper explained the only thing that can change is, when they
approve this, they will be identifying these projects. They
can't add projects. These projects can come off or they can not
borrow money or not do the project. This just says these are the
projects the City intends to build and these are eligible for
reimbursement.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated they have this money in different
funds in the City, they are going to take the money from the
different funds, do these things with that money and then have
bonds to pay ourselves back. City Manager Hooper stated bank
loans or bonds, one of the two.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated she has a small problem with that.
Why should the taxpayers pay interest on borrowed money? Are any
of these things something that needs to be done immediately?
City Manager Hooper explained these are things that we have
obligated ourselves by the development orders, such as putting in
roads, water or sewer. We can up front some of the money from
what we have as reserves in the Enterprise Fund but they will
have to go to the bank to borrow to reimburse those because those
funds are put in place to do other types of projects that are
already in the budget. The interest rate is a very low rate and
probably lower than what you can make on some of the investments
of the funds.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if the fire pumper and the associated
equipment are in the budget. City Manager Hooper stated it is in
the budget. When they brought it forth in the budget, they
described they would either lease or borrow. They put it in the
budget with a clear understanding, that we didn't have cash and
this is the method they would allocate that.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated why don't we have the cash for the
fire pumper if they put it in the budget. City Manager Hooper
explained they put it in the budget with the understanding that
it was going to be a lease purchase agreement.
City Manager Hooper briefly commented on starting a Vehicle
Replacement Fund, which hasn't been done in the past.
Mayor Schmidt asked how much time they are looking to borrow.
City Manager Hooper stated he is looking at seven years. They
will know more when they get quotes.
Councilwoman Lichter feels if you need something badly it should
come on a list of priorities and it should probably be included
in tax money.
There was a brief discussion regarding what the reclaimed water
storage and pumping effluents will include.
Mayor Schmidt asked if this includes a new storage tank. City
Manager Hooper informed him yes. Mayor Schmidt asked how big.
City Manager Hooper informed him about 2 million gallons of
storage. Mayor Schmidt asked what we have storage wise now.
City Manager Hooper informed him less than 200,000.
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councilwoman Lichter spoke about some residents not having access
to reclaimed water. City Manager Hooper stated mostly through
Florida Shores and it is going to stay that way. with the $1
million, it is to put it along u.S. 1 and finish up some of
Florida Shores.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated she has people calling her south of
30th Street in Florida Shores that say they pay for reclaimed
water but don't get reclaimed water. City Manager Hooper spoke
about running out of reclaimed water and this solving that
problem.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she is talking about the people that
will be paying into this that don't have access to it. She hopes
if they ever have access extra, that it goes to payoff this
debt.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated it ties up our money for seven years
to do these projects. She agrees with Dale Street but feels
there may be another way to get the fire pumper. She feels the
reclaimed water storage is something that could wait awhile.
City Manager Hooper stated this isn't saying they are going to
borrow the money. This says if they borrow the money these are
the projects they are going to reimburse. He stated if Council
would like they could come back and discuss the projects.
Mayor Schmidt asked how this will address the south end of
Florida Shores. City Manager Hooper explained it will provide
more water at the supply end, at the Plant.
Mayor Schmidt stated with the people at the north end that abuse
it, will there be enough pressure in the system or will they need
to go door to door and hit these people that leave it on seven
days a week. It's not fair to the guy at the other end of the
system. Councilwoman Rhodes stated what is not fair is you sold
him water that he can't get. City Manager Hooper explained you
have the product most the year, there are times that you don't,
such as during the hot part of the summer when there is high use.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated when they really need it, they don't
have it. City Manager Hooper explained this is how they are
going to solve it. If this doesn't work, they will put meters on
some and there will be restrictions on some and the more you use
the more you will pay. That is the next step.
Mayor Schmidt asked if they ever foresee a storage tank in that
end of tank. city Manager Hooper stated yes, as they are
developing and talking to the annexed property at the south with
the golf course he has described, they have approached him about
having storage on his site.
Councilwoman Lichter asked about the property the original fire
station was supposed to be on. City Manager Hooper stated it is
not nearly large enough or have the volume to do anything to
store on the south end. Councilwoman Lichter feels then they
should sell it. city Manager Hooper stated they are going to
sell it. It will be a very near future agenda to declare that
parcel surplus so they can sell it.
Councilman Brown asked if anyone has checked the recharge rate in
the pond they will be taking water out of and whether they will
get salt water intrusion if too much water is taken out. City
Manager Hooper informed him yes, that has all been part of the
permitting process. There is a certain amount they can withdraw
per day.
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George Ann Keller, 3039 Unity Tree Drive, stated she lives in the
south end and has many days without being able to use reclaimed
water. Today, there was no reclaimed water. When she called up
early afternoon, she was told they turned it off at 7 a.m.
because they didn't have any water. She stated there are
restrictions and there is supposed to be enforcements and there
are people that have the reclaimed water on continuously. She
feels the town is not enforcing the law. She feels people are
abusing it and something needs to be done.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, expressed concern with the
reclaimed water and the borrowing of the money to be paid by the
tax dollars. He spoke about people that do not have reclaimed
water that will have to pay for it.
city Manager Hooper explained only the users of the system will
actually pay for it through their rates. It's not tax funded.
Mayor Schmidt asked if the bonds will be paid for with tax
dollars. City Manager Hooper explained no, the General Fund will
be paid by non ad-valorem. Tax dollars and property tax can't be
used for this kind of stuff.
Councilwoman Lichter stated City Manager Hooper did not say the
City is definitely going to use long term financing, he said the
City is exploring the possibility. She hopes they are going to
try real hard to think of something else. City Manager Hooper
stated there really are no other choices.
Councilwoman Lichter commented on a grant being obtained in terms
of reclaimed water. She asked if there may be money out there to
help them improve their reclaimed water distribution facilities.
City Manager Hooper explained there is some money and they just
got $225,000 to do the design, the permitting, and the study.
Grants aren't available for the construction, they are available
for the planning and the design and permitting of it.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked where this reclaimed water will be.
city Manager Hooper explained it is at our treatment plant site.
They are going to add storage and pumping from the pond adjacent
from Public Works into it.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked about the service area of it. City
Manager Hooper explained the new lines extend down and go along
the medians on U.S. 1. Right now all of that is potable water.
The City is paying the potable water rate.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated so there is no users there that will
repay this money. City Manager Hooper explained the current
users are going to pay as they go into that. They will probably
be back asking to increase the reclaimed water rates.
Councilwoman Lichter would like to know out what other cities are
paying for reclaimed water. City Manager Hooper explained they
are bringing back a rate study that will talk of all of our rates
and revenues. He briefly spoke of reclaimed water rates in other
cities.
Councilman Brown asked if this will be on SR 442 when the
landscaping is put in. City Manager Hooper informed him yes.
Mayor Schmidt commented on the homes being built that are being
hooked up to reclaimed water. Does there come a point where we
say we aren't hooking anyone else up because of not being able to
service them? City Manager Hooper explained that is the plan.
If we can't do this, it is time to do a moratorium on connections
on reclaimed water.
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Mayor Schmidt asked the cost of a 2 million gallon tank. city
Manager Hooper informed him it is about $.60 per gallon so
approximately $1.2 million.
councilwoman Rhodes asked if they add fluoride, will the Health
Department pay for it. City Manager Hooper stated the Health
Department will pay for fluoride.
Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they could put this off until the
next meeting. City Manager Hooper informed her yes.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked that they do that because she would
like time to think about it and get some public input. City
Manager Hooper stated if the Council would like they could come
back and talk of the projects in more detail. Councilwoman
Rhodes stated she understands the projects.
Councilwoman Lichter doesn't mind pulling the fire pumper because
she thinks that is coming out of the General Fund and that is
different. Councilman Brown feels the pumper truck should be
taken on a separate item. This other stuff is one thing. City
Manager Hooper explained they are listed separate. There are
General Fund items which are roads, General Fund for fire, the
rest are Enterprise Funds.
Mayor Schmidt stated if they delay this, they aren't delaying
projects, they are just delaying the beginning process to look
for financing to reimburse. City Manager Hooper stated your
delaying some of the construction is potential. The permitting
and design is underway.
Councilwoman Rhodes has a problem with the $3 million for the
reclaimed water. She questioned just taking that off. City
Manager Hooper suggested they approve the resolution and take off
the reclaimed water and bring it back.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they would be stopping any projects.
City Manager Hooper explained they have not started the final
construction design stuff on the reclaimed water. That is due
for the next agenda but they will hold that off. He feels it
would be good to review the whole reclaimed subject, talk of
where they have lines and talk of what they can do. He feels
they need to hear the whole story of what it will do to rates.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke of the cost of enforcement seems to be
out of our grasp. She believes it is important enough to figure
out where they are going to get the money for enforcement.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve Res. 2000-R-15
taking out the reclaimed water, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
M. Public Hearing. 2nd Readinq. staff recommendinq denial of
request bv Luis Geil. authorized aqent for Mohammad Azam and
Anawar Chodhury. for a Development Aqreement to construct uo to a
ten unit multi-familY aoartments. located on the east side of N.
Ridqewood Avenue between Lamont street and wilkinson Avenue.
(Continued from Julv 24. 2000: Item 6A)
city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Councilwoman Rhodes made a motion to deny the development
agreement, second by Councilman Brown. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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N. 2nd Readinq. Ord. No. 99-0-24. staff recommendinq denial of
request by Luis Geil. authorized aqent for Mohammad Azam and
Anawar Chodhurv. to change the zoninq classification from R-3.
Sinqle-familv Residential to B-3. Hiqhwav Commercial for property
located on the east side of N. Ridqewood Avenue between Lamont
street and Wilkinson Avenue. (Continued from December 6. 1999:
Item 6A)
Legal Assistant Matusick read Ord. 99-0-24.
Due to there being no comments, Mayor Schmidt opened and closed
the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to deny the request for
rezoning because time restriction was not met nor no other new
plans were forthcoming, second by Councilwoman Rhodes. The
motion CARRIED 5-0.
O. Public Hearinq. Philip Fonq. authorized aqent for She Chunq
Fonq and Poo Joo Fonq (owners). seekinq final plat approval for a
portion of property known as Riverside Estates Subdivision
(approximately 5.64 acres)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. Staff recommends
approval.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if some of this property goes on to
Ranken Road. Philip Fong explained essentially it is on
Swordfish Lane. Basically they are extending Swordfish Lane
westward and then it goes northwest to encompass the three lots.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she got a call from the lady that
owns the property next to Pyramid Park and she had some concern
about where the lots were going and if it interfered with her
parcel of land.
Mayor Schmidt asked Mr. Fong to state his name and address for
the record. Philip Fong, stated they are the developer and they
reside at 1231 E. Robinson Street, Orlando.
There was a brief discussion regarding the size of the lots.
Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
There was a ten minute recess at this time.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Law Enforcement Block Grant - staff requesting acceptance of
$16.285 qrant and provide cash match of $1.809 for various
equipment purchases
B. Appointment to Police Pension Board - staff recommendinq
appointment of Officer Kim Rash (elected bv Police personnel) to
fill the remaininq term of Bret Teitelbaum. who resiqned
C. Contract for Professional Enqineerinq Services - staff
recommendinq approval of contract renewal and amendments for city
Enqineer Hans Wolfer
D. continuinq Services Aqreement - staff recommendinq approval
of the continuing services contract to hire Ernst & Younq LLC for
auditinq and other financial services
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E. Eauipment Purchase - staff recommendina approval to oigayback
the Lake County bid and trade-in a 1987 Ford mini-pumper for the
purchase of a 2001 pierce Enforcer Custom Rescue Pumper
($224.997)
City Manager Hooper stated they negotiated the contract with the
auditors and it is down to $40,000 and it is an annual contract.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they purchase the pumper are they
obligated to repay themselves from bonds. City Manager Hooper
stated the only thing Council has done is authorize
reimbursement. The answer is yes, we really want to reimburse
ourselves.
Councilman Vincenzi made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Massev Ranch Boulevard/Skvway Drive Water and Wastewater
Extensions - staff reauestina authorizina the Mayor or city
Manaaer to execute a chanae order to proaressive Contractors.
Inc. existina construction contract ($399.773)
city Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Mayor Schmidt stated he is assuming the City is happy with the
work that has been done so far. city Manager Hooper stated they
have been really good at getting it done efficient. The first
installation passed without any problems of the pressure testing.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
Katherine Hutchinson, 1730 Airpark Road, asked how far the water
was going to run.
city Manager Hooper asked City Clerk Wadsworth to put up the map
that shows the annexation area. He then pointed out where the
water will run.
Ms. Hutchinson asked if there will be any additional water on
Airpark. City Manager Hooper stated there currently aren't any
plans to do that.
Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
Councilman Brown moved for approval, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OFFICER REPORTS
City Clerk Wadsworth reminded everyone to vote tomorrow.
Legal Assistant Matusick had nothing at this time.
City Manager
1) Southeast Volusia Water Rates
City Manager Hooper informed Council of the letter in their
packet regarding the rates. The County is increasing those rates
and will go through a process. He commented on the amount total
paid.
City Manager Hooper informed Council the final inspection on the
YMCA will be done Friday of this week for the certificate of
Occupancy. It will probably open Monday or Tuesday for business.
They are talking of having a ribbon cutting ceremony on November
16 th at 5: 30 p. m.
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City Manager Hooper further commented on
rates and the programs they are going to
updating the agreement the City has with
to bring that back in December.
the brochure listing the
start. He commented on
the YMCA. He is looking
Mayor Schmidt asked for an update on the grant they are looking
for for SR 442. City Manager Hooper explained it is a DOT funded
grant. This is the first year. Cities, counties even DOT is
eligible for that. It is to improve operations of existing
transportation network for regional areas that are looking for
evacuation routes. They are working to get this application in
their hands by Wednesday. It takes SR 442 from its current
ending point and goes over to SR 415. It is for approximately $2
million for planning and preliminary design. Construction is
about an $80 million road that will go 15 miles.
CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
George Ann Keller, 3039 Unity Tree Drive, asked if they could
come up with more information about the YMCA at the next Council
meeting such as financially and what the Y has done in meeting
their money with what we have put out. She asked if the City
will be stuck with a bond issue to build a pool if they don't
come forward with their moneys they still owe this owe. She
asked if the Y is considered a shelter and if the Federal
Government ever got the building approved as a shelter area.
City Manager Hooper stated they have pledges in the amount of
$250,000 and about $25,000 or $30,000 in cash. As far as any
debt, the Y has agreed and our contract agrees it is the
expansion that they are to pay for. There is no debt because
there is no expansion until they expand. They are planning to
open the pool by April. It will cost $600,000 or $700,000 to
build the pool.
City Manager Hooper stated if the worse came about and the Y
couldn't fulfill their obligations, they walk away or we walk
away. There is not a debt incurred and our only obligation is to
continue with the gym we have built which is what we started with
originally. The real savings to the City is we aren't having to
staff the operation. They are also maintaining the building.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if YMCA's are self-contained. She
commented on the sum of money the yes in the whole country have
collected. She asked if the Y can borrow money from their own
source.
City Manager Hooper stated they have stated they wanted to do it
with cash to build it but if they had to they could borrow.
City Manager Hooper explained the City received $288,000 to make
it become a shelter. It is a shelter but it is not a hurricane
shelter. If a hurricane of category 3 or above were to come to
us from the east, that shelter is located in the zone that will
be flooded.
Mayor Schmidt asked to request Randy appear at the first meeting
in December to give them a presentation. City Manager Hooper
informed him he is scheduled to do that.
Andy Anderson, pine Tree Drive, commented on a hole in the street
on the corner of 12th Street and pine Tree Drive. That whole is
three times as big as it was now. It is getting pretty deep.
City Manager Hooper stated he is pretty sure when that was
brought up before it had been taken care of.
Mayor Schmidt spoke about a couple on Travelers that have been
filled in with sand from the 21st to 23rd block. There is one on
the east side of Travelers where the shoulder itself has chipped
away. He asked if there is anyone that drives around that spots
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Councilwoman Rhodes asked about setting up a program where City
workers and Police officers can call it in. City Manager Hooper
stated they do that but it doesn't mean they are all caught. We
have Code Enforcement in a similar situation. They will stress
that again in the Departmental meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Lichter
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:34 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
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November 6, 2000