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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 3, 2000
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Schmidt called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Community Center
ROLL CALL
Mayor Donald Schmidt
Councilman James Brown
Councilman Dennis Vincenzi
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
Legal Assistant Robin Wolf
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the
Flag.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved.
PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES
A. FIND Update. Dave Roach and Mark Veenstra
City Manager Hooper informed Council FIND's attorney, Mr.
Webster, requested some time to appear before Council. David
Roach, Executive Director and Mark Veenstra, Engineer, are
present to brief Council on the current status of the FIND
project.
David Roach, Executive Director, Florida Inland Navigation
District, presented a history of the FIND project, informed
Council what FIND is, what they do, the location of the FIND
project and presented an update on the status of the project.
Councilwoman Lichter asked how they plan to get into Phase II.
Mr. Roach explained the agreements they have made at this point
is FIND will totally finance phase I, which is a $2 million
investment. Phase II, is an approximately $1 million
infrastructure investment, at which time they haven't committed
any funding to. Initially they were looking and did submit, in
conjunction with the City of Edgewater, a grant for federal
funding to build Phase II. That grant was unsuccessful. They
will be looking at forming a partnership with the City or DBCC to
raise that capital to effectuate the development of Phase II.
Mr. Roach went on to speak about their goals when they got
involved with the project.
Mayor Schmidt asked if they have a timetable when their work
starts. Mr. Roach informed him right now they are in the final
design of Phase I and that final design will be completed at the
end of February. They have not submitted the applications as of
yet for the permits required to build the project. The engineer
is estimating that is a four tq six month process to obtain the
permits. We are looking at the process extending out to
construct~on initiating sometime in October of 2000.
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Councilman Brown asked who will be in charge of security around
this when they are pumping that stuff into that place. He asked
if they will be responsible for fencing this area. Mr. Roach
assured him the site would be fully secured. During operations
there will be someone on site 24 hours a day. The site will be
posted pursuant to law in terms of no trespassing. They don't
anticipate that being a problem. Mr. Roach stated the engineer
is here in case Council has any questions in that regard.
City Manager Hooper stated Council has asked a time or two about
odor. Mr. Roach stated there is no odor problem. The amount of
organic material that is going to be placed in this site is going
to be negligible and then it is going to be dewatered very
quickly so it is not wet and continuing to try and decompose.
What goes in the site is approximately 80% fine grain sand, 15%
silt, and less than 5% organic material.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if this is a continuous process or if
it happens in intervals at certain times. Mr. Roach explained it
happens in intervals. This particular area of the waterway they
are estimating needs to dredged about once every fifteen years.
There was further discussion regarding dredging and the need for
sites along the 374 miles of intracoastal waterway due to in 50
years not being able to purchase enough land to build one of
these sites.
Councilwoman Lichter asked City Manager Hooper to point out on
the map where Phase III is.
Dick Jones, 1530 Sabal Palm Drive, asked with the delay of the
construction of the FIND site in Oak Hill, will that extend the
period of time they will be dredging. Mr. Roach stated they have
experienced an eagle problem at the Oak Hill site. They don't
anticipate that putting any further demand on this particular
site here.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if there is any chance grants could be
resubmitted for Phase II. City Manager Hooper stated they are
resubmitting the grant.
B. Economic Develooment Board reauestinq a $500 contribution for
costs, associated with an Economic Develooment svrnoosium
Adelaide Carter, Vice Chairman, Economic Development Board,
presented the request of the Economic Development Board.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she thought this was for our members
to attend the meeting. Ms. Carter explained it is actually for
putting the meeting together. She commented on who has been
asked to contribute.
City Manager Hooper asked if any other cities have committed.
Ms. Carter stated the Southeast Chamber is putting it together.
Mayor Schmidt asked exactly what will be going on. Ms. Carter
commented on what will be going on at the symposium. City
Manager Hooper informed Council on Friday, January 7th, there is
a meeting with Frank Roberts, himself and the Mayor or City Clerk
from Oak Hill to make the agenda and work out what is going to be
on the agenda for the symposium.
Councilwoman Lichter questioned giving a commitment before they
know what it is about and the other cities that are going in.
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City Manager Hooper spoke about there being a problem with the
timing. They want to hold the symposium on February 12th and the
Council meetings again on February 7th. He would like to find
out more about what is going to be presented but that is one week
before they are actually going to be spending the money.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they could okay contingent upon
contributions by the other cities. City Manager Hooper stated
they could okay it authorizing the Mayor or City Manager to make
the final decision and have it contingent upon reviewing the
symposium agenda. If we are consistent with it, then authorize
it.
Councilwoman Lichter stated if it is questions that any incoming
business can call the Chamber and get answered, she doesn't think
they should be putting this kind of money into it. If it is a
unique twist with that information plus, then she thinks it is
worthwhile. She hesitates voting on this this evening.
Councilman Vincenzi asked what she meant by something unique.
Councilwoman Lichter presented examples of what might be unique.
She feels if it is a step forward with economic development not
just an answering of questions she would be for it.
City Manager Hooper asked if February 12th is a set date. Ms.
Carter stated she didn't know. She imagines it was cleared with
the Chamber being free. City Manager Hooper suggested requesting
the Council see the agenda, what is going to be accomplished and
what the goals and objectives are and then vote to spend the
money.
Councilman Vincenzi asked if there is any indication of who would
be attending. City Manager Hooper stated he thinks the
invitations were to Chamber members, the City Council from New
Smyrna and Oak Hill, the County Council and the Economic
Development Boards of all of those areas. City Manager Hooper
also feels some of the business leaders to be part of that.
Councilman Vincenzi stated he would like to know more about who
is attending and what the agenda would entail but he wouldn't be
opposed to conditionally approving spending $500. City Manager
Hooper stated the range is within the City Manager's
authorization to spend he just doesn't do this without bringing
this back to Council. If Council would like, he could look that
over, address it with the Mayor, talk to Tom Alcorn some and at
that point see if we could delay it or get a better agenda.
Based on the review of that, they could make that final decision.
If that is acceptable with Council, that is more than fine with
him.
There was a consensus of Council to do as City Manager Hooper
suggested.
C. Discussion of the City of EdGewater's Risk ManaGement plan
concerninG accidental release prevention at the Water and
Wastewater Plants, Ted Hortenstein, P.E.
City Manager Hooper informed Council Ted Hortenstein would be
addressing some of the mandatory requirements when you have
dangerous chemicals at the water or sewer or have been mandated
by stated and federal agencies to do studies, inform the public
and then hold public hearings.
Ted Hortenstein, Division Manager for Water & Wastewater
Department for Dyer, Riddle, Mills & Precourt, made a
presentation of the Risk Management Plan and the federal and
state mandates associated with it. He showed Council, on a map,
where the Water and Wastewater Plants are located.
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Mr. Hortenstein spoke about regulated chemicals that are used and
went over the risks to Edgewater and emergency response teams.
The risk is very minimal to the community. He commented on the
sole focus of the plan in case of an emergency. They have met
the requirements of EPA.
Councilwoman Rhodes asked if it is realistic to expect that you
could evacuate the surrounding area in time in the case of a
catastrophe. Mr. Hortenstein commented on worst case scenarios.
He spoke about some communities enclosing their facilities. He
feels the real risk is in the transport of chlorine.
Councilwoman Lichter asked what our situation is now and if we
are going to increase the risk. Mr. Hortenstein stated the only
thing they have done is reduce risk because of programs that have
been implemented. This plan has been submitted to EPA.
There was further discussion regarding the document itself
explaining what to do in the case of a chemical leak. Mr.
Hortenstein explained they took all the programs that were in
place and tied them all together. We had to go through an
approval process with the Volusia County's Fire Department and
Edgewater's Fire Department to make sure everybody was on board
with what is being said and now it is just one plan, kind of like
the hurricane preparedness.
Mayor Schmidt asked Terry Wadsworth, Environmental Services
Director, if everyone at the plants is trained with this and
knows the do's and don'ts in case of an accident. Mr. Wadsworth
commented on the training program and volumes at the plant of the
report that is supposed to reviewed periodically. Mr.
Hortenstein explained in the report there are forms that on an
annual basis have to be filled out by the treatment personnel
documenting that they have gone through an update on training or
if they are a new hire that they have been notified of the risk
of dealing with chlorine but also what to do in case of an
emergency. These are documented procedures. He briefly went
over emergency procedures.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if it is being recommended in the
future that there be more distance between residences and plants
of this sort. Mr. Hortenstein stated if he could design cities
from scratch he would certainly recommend that.
Due to there being no further comments, Mayor Schmidt informed
Mr. Hortenstein he appreciated the presentation.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, spoke in opposition to sending our
sewerage down to Oak Hill. She doesn't understand why the City
has to bribe them to buy our water when they need our water. She
further spoke about losing our reuse water because they will be
dumping it on the ground. She spoke about future growth. She
feels they should put the lines in when they need them. The
County has already admitted that for ten years they are going to
lose money. We don't just live in Edgewater, we live in the
County. She feels this is something that needs to be looked
into.
Mike Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, would like the Council to
try and save the medians on SR 442. He isn't against widening SR
442. He is against the fifth lane, which is a turn lane. He
would like to see a five-foot divider left and the palm trees
saved. He referred to an article in the newspaper on Sunday
entitled 'How Much of Natural Florida Will Survive?' He asked
Council to save our trees and the medians.
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City Manager Hooper presented a status report on where we stand
with SR 442. The 90% plans will be completed in another two
months. This is a DOT road and DOT is legally obligated to
design it under certain standards. He spoke about meetings held
by DOT. They have given us $100,000 for beautification. It is
way past the ability to change even if it were in your
jurisdiction. At this point, it is really not. There is an
effort to take some of the palms that are there and move them to
the side and try and use them to hide the light poles. DOT has
said they will look at that. They have also offered us the
opportunity of a matching grant. He spoke about doing
landscaping on the sides of SR 442 closer to U.S. #1 and 1-95.
They are looking at next year bidding for construction, the
entire length from 1-95 to U.S. #1.
Councilwoman Lichter stated the Council before the last one that
she served on originally voted to have the medians remain in the
center. The citizens that lived on the streets that were going
to be closed came out in mass to make sure that their roadways
were not going to be closed, even if it meant the middle median
being eliminated. They changed to plan B because at that point
they still could. She went on to speak about plans drawn by Mike
Tanksley, Chairman of the Recreation/Cultural Services Board.
She thinks realistically they have to deal with what they have
and try to work with that or they won't have anything.
City Manager Hooper stated it is an old road going through an old
subdivision. You would never, under any modern standards,
approve a road with that many cross-streets every 150 feet.
There are only so many options and neither option is very pretty.
He feels if they went in and said let's re-evaluate, they would
take the money and build a different road.
Councilman Brown asked if anyone has every done a survey on the
five-lane highways to find out how many head-on collisions you
have. City Manager Hooper explained there is an on-going warrant
study that talks of signalization to slow it down, traffic
calming devices which raise that center median and paint it. He
spoke about the very stringent guidelines DOT has.
Mayor Schmidt asked if the fifth lane right now has any of the
raised concrete or is it just a fifth lane with a lot of paint.
City Manager Hooper stated it is a fifth lane, painted both
sides, arrows constant left and right turn. Simple enough to
raise. That is one of the issues that is in the letter that they
have talked about. Raising the road also has its disadvantages.
Ed Keenan, 1905 Pine Tree Drive, spoke about safety on SR 442.
He stated he heard the $100,000 has been raised to $200,000.
City Manager Hooper stated it is still $100,000. He stated there
are nicer palm trees around than those in the median. He spoke
about the palm tree arrangement in Port Orange.
Mr. Keenan spoke about the history of SR 442. He feels the plan
that is going through now is the best one they could come up with
to be a safe road.
Mike Visconti spoke about when you go down to 407 going to
Orlando. The first road you hit is a two-lane highway. The you
hit the two-lane with the median in the middle and feels it is
much safer driving. He spoke about how the current plan came to
be. He spoke about the highway dividers in other cities.
Doug Kennedy, 175 Gary Ave, Oak Hill, informed Council that Item
22 on the County Council agenda this Thursday pertains to
Edgewater. He wanted to be sure that Council was aware that last
week with their vote that they authorized them to spend $400,000
to build your pipeline all the way down to Ariel Road without any
competitive bids.
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City Manager Hooper explained when they talked about it last
week, they were clear that first they were using their existing
contractor that was done through competitive bids. Mr. Kennedy
stated there has never been a bid released for the pipeline
between Edgewater and Hacienda and the 201 Facility that was in
public meetings for the County. City Manager Hooper stated there
hasn't been. Mr. Kennedy stated well then this project has never
been opened to bid. City Manager Hooper explained the project
was bid through the contractor of the County. He was awarded and
had to find the unit cost. He honored those prices to us through
the competitive bid, same process. He commented on the way this
is worded on the County Council agenda. If there is any change
in their permit condition that says they can't build the plant or
any of the items promised, we would stop at that point. Your
promise and agreement is to budget and appropriate. All that
means is we have set aside the money, they have authorized
expenditure of the money but until there is a permit and viable
project, we aren't going to write them a check.
Mr. Kennedy suggested it be read because what the City has done
is hired the County to administer and put that pipeline in for
Edgewater and have agreed to pay the bills they submit. His only
concern is if Council is aware they have already spent the money.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated but does that not eliminate a lot of
redundancy to do that. If the County has already bid and gotten
the lowest bid for the County, why would Edgewater go through
that whole process if we already have access to the information
we need in order to do it. Mr. Kennedy stated this sewer project
was dead at one point. He feels a lot of contractors out there
didn't bother to go back through it because they lost the
assessment district. They thought it was allover with the state
revolving loan fund. He stated the City is now in a legal
situation where the money has to be paid or the City will be
sued.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated they were in a legal situation before
they even took office. The City of Edgewater had a contract with
the County, signed, sealed and delivered before we took office.
She stated she would be happy if Mr. Kennedy would bring us some
new concrete facts, in writing, that they could deal with.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if what the County did was legal
without going out to bid again. City Manager Hooper stated sure,
it is legal for the City to piggyback on the same contract.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated she would be happy with some new
concrete information that she could base a different decision on.
Mr. Kennedy asked to make an appointment with Councilwoman Rhodes
to go over the information he has and show her the discrepancies
he has. City Manager Hooper informed Mr. Kennedy he needs to
somehow show that the County has violated a permit, that they
don't have a permit to do what they want to do or that permit
could be rescinded.
Mr. Kennedy stated the whole contract was based on correcting a
recorded public health hazard. There isn't one. City Manager
Hooper stated this Council has asked him to come back with proof
from DEP, either from the financial or permitting side, that they
are willing to say no to the County. Mr. Kennedy stated he's got
the financial side in the front seat of his car. Councilwoman
Lichter stated they have not written a check and they decided
when they met last that there was time involved here. If the
State acts as fast as they have with the boat in the river, it
will be a good six months or year before they do anything. Mr.
Kennedy stated this will move very fast. That is why the Council
is approving the contract at their next meeting.
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Councilman Brown stated isn't it more up to Oak Hill to jump in
if they think this is so unsafe. Mr. Kennedy stated Oak Hill is
doing that. He can not speak for Oak Hill. They have sent
registered letters to the State requesting the people show up and
justify what they are doing.
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, suggested Mr. Kennedy go to the
County Council meeting and talk to the County Council people.
She doesn't think they are aware of the consequences of this
whole thing. She thinks the City should not have entered into
this agreement because she feels it is a bad deal for the City.
Mr. Kennedy stated we did not come here to ask you to break any
contracts. When I came here last week, I asked you to exercise
their option of the contract.
Councilman Vincenzi asked Mr. Kennedy if he would be going to the
Council meeting. Mr. Kennedy stated no, he's been there, done
that. Larry Arrington has pretty much control. It won't be on
the agenda and they wouldn't even address it. Jim Ward has been
notified with it. The problem with the Council was the one's
that were informed, which was Jim Ward, which this is his
district and we concentrated on and Ann McFall, who also has part
of Oak Hill, that we educated to what the problems were voted no.
The other five are up in the other side and it didn't matter.
The Council told them if they don't build this they are going to
lose the cement plant development and they are $5 or $6 million
into tax dollars with that. They need that to get free sewer for
whoever comes in in that development. City Manager Hooper stated
he attended the same meeting. He answered questions for the
County Council. He thinks they were fully informed. He thinks
Mr. Kennedy was right that there were some changed votes and he
thinks Edgewater has something to do with that. They saw we were
interested in becoming partners with them and it changed, at
least Big John's mind, who spoke to him. He was pleased to see
Edgewater as part of joining his team to put together water and
sewer for that whole Southeast Volusia to have economic
development.
Mr. Kennedy stated what confuses him is that two years ago Terry
Wadsworth was down there convincing us that you could provide us
better and cheaper service and we were ill informed at that time
and we said we don't care who gives it to us, just give us the
best. Now we are back to where we aren't going to get the best.
We were asked by Edgewater to join in years ago. We've steadied
the course and Edgewater did the flip on us six months ago.
Don Gillespie, 1719 Willow Oak Drive, spoke about the trash and
garbage collection. He feels they do an outstanding job.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Rhodes had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she asked City Manager Hooper about
the sign for the Florida Shores Clubhouse. He thanked him
because he looked into it. They found the old sign that may not
be useable but they are going to make one or get one together and
they are going to be able to have an indicator where their
clubhouse is. City Manager Hooper stated something is going
there but he hasn't figure out yet what.
Councilwoman Lichter stated one of the Code Enforcement Board
members is concerned if they are going to have a lawyer on board
for the next Code Enforcement meeting. City Manager Hooper
stated they probably will not at that point. He will attend the
next meeting and work with them.
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Councilwoman Lichter asked if on January 10th, which is their
goal setting meeting, if perhaps Planning and Zoning and maybe
Economic Development might participate. She feels the need that
they might help them prioritize. City Manager Hooper suggested
this is Council's Work Session. He would prefer to sit and talk
with the council and for them to help him understand what they
want to do over the next couple of years. They will develop
priorities to that and then they will talk about how to fund some
of those. The other's can be involved. Certainly they are
invited to be there. But he feels they will have a plate full
enough just to get through that.
Councilwoman Lichter read an article about history and informed
Council they have a very exciting opportunity to be involved in
the Florida Division of Historical Resources with Port Orange,
the County, Oak Hill, and Edgewater has been sending a member,
Mike Tanksley, to the meetings. Lynne Plaskett has already
identified in Edgewater some possible archaeology sites that
might be remains of the British colony that was founded by Andrew
Turnbull. She gave Council a book to read. She, Mike Tanksley
and Lynne Plaskett will be attending the meeting on January 10th
to find out what is involved in being part of that dig that is
already going on. We may very easily fit in with this type of
grant situation.
Councilman Brown asked how they stand with City Manager Hooper
staying with the City. He was curious because he wanted to make
sure City Manager Hooper doesn't run off. City Manager Hooper
stated he isn't going anywhere. Councilwoman Lichter stated you
aren't going with the County are you. City Manager Hooper stated
he has been asked that way too many times. Even Mr. Kennedy has
tried to infer that is why we did the deal with the County, was
he was going to take Larry's job which he told Council he has no
desire to do. What he is going to suggest later on is that the
Mayor and a couple of staff folks be appointed to sit down and
negotiate and at least have a good discussion as to where they
go. He is here through the next meeting without any doubt so
nobody is going anywhere.
Councilman Vincenzi had nothing at this time.
There was a ten-minute recess at this time.
Mayor Schmidt asked for an update on the boat ramp. Parks and
Recreation Director Jack Corder stated they have been dealing
with FEMA on the boat ramp because it was damaged during the
storm. The west dock was put back in place last Thursday. It is
in operation. We do have two of the three in full operation. In
our talkings with FEMA, there is a possibility they might fund
completely the east ramp, which will be changed to an aluminum
ramp, a floating dock with handicap accessibility. They are all
open and useable right now. There is a short piece laying on the
side but people are using that dock even though they have blocked
it off they keep tearing it down.
Mayor Schmidt stated a gentleman that lives on Sea Hawk Court
came up to him and informed him they have some road issues. He
didn't seen overly pleased with the response he has gotten so he
told him he would bring it up. There are some pot holes. The
way it sounds, it is one of those streets that might call for our
attention. City Manager Hooper asked if he had a name and phone
number. He agreed to take care of this.
Mayor Schmidt spoke about a letter in the Observer. He thanked
Mr. Keenan for the press time he gave him in this and gave the
Council. He is not part of a group, he has never been part of a
group, and he has no strings attached to his back. As we are a
group that wants to bring this City together and the headline on
the article is Attorney's Firing Payback to Militant Group.
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Mayor Schmidt stated we know the militant group is referring to
the Edgewater landing people. Some of the nicest, hardest
working, most pleasant volunteering people that this City or any
other City will ever see. If you are going to do editorials or
do something, let's try and do it for the good of the City. The
Attorney's firing was a business decision. He doesn't apologize
for it being the last minute on the agenda. He spoke to Mr.
Hooper and Ms. Clayton. He feels he did what he needed to do as
a representative of this City. He is sorry if some people felt
it was one of those last minute things. It wasn't a payback to
anybody. Everybody knew it was coming.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Public Hearinq, Litiqation Counsel recommendinq approval of
proposed Settlement Aqreement and Dismissal with Preludice, and
authorizinq execution bv the City Manaqer
City Manager Hooper made a brief staff presentation. Mr. David
Kornreich, 255 S. Orange Avenue, Orlando, legal counsel,
elaborated on the case of Noni Warrell vs. City of Edgewater.
Plaintiff's counsel sought voluminous discovery, numerous
documents, and is in the process of taking and scheduling
numerous depositions, which makes this a good time to talk about
whether they want to continue or accept what he regards is a
reasonable settlement. The amount of the settlement proposal is
$30,000, with $11,516 going to counsel and $18,484 going to Ms.
Warrell in terms of her alleged damages. Ms. Warrell is suing
the City for back pay. She has been off for 3 V2 years from the
City. He spoke about the cost to fight the case as opposed to
settling. He recommended Council approve the proposal. It
constitutes a complete release of all claims. Ms. Warrell waives
any right to come back to work or reapply at any time to the City
of Edgewater. We would convert her termination to a resignation.
He again recommended Council approve that settlement.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated she doesn't see how we can justify
spending $100,000. We don't have the option that were we to win
that she would be paying our attorney fees do we? Mr. Kornreich
stated he is holding a judgement on behalf of Volusia County that
is some 25 years old where they did succeed in winning a case
like this on summary judgement. It was $25,000 attorney fees
judgement against the plaintiff. The County has yet to collect
it. The last time we did one of these for the City and we were
successful, we did achieve summary judgement in the same Federal
Court. Keep in mind our fees were paid for by an insurance
company. The City did not bear that burden at all.
Mayor Schmidt asked how this opens us up in the future? Does
everyone start coming out of the woodwork? Mr. Kornreich
explained years ago we never settled any of these cases. Some of
his major private clients have told him never a cent because it
does open the flood gates and you get the reputation of settling.
Unfortunately, it has gotten so expensive to defend the cases, we
have had to become more practical. He would rather fight. He
enjoys that more than telling the City to give someone some
money.
City Manager Hooper spoke about some of the things that staff 1S
doing to have consistency such as updating our policies.
Councilwoman Lichter feels you have to take each case, reading
every line and reading under every line. She thinks a $30,000
settlement in this case is a good business deal.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing. Due to there being no
comments, Mayor Schmidt closed the public hearing.
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City Manager Hooper stated the motion would be to authorize the
settlement as described in the agreement.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion that they accept their
litigation counsel's recommendation to approve the attached
settlement and authorize us to pay Ms. Warrell the $30,000.
motion is not based upon the merit of the case but upon what
feels is the best business action for the City. Councilman
Vincenzi seconded the motion. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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B. 2nd Public Hearinq, Joe Martin, authorized aqent for Scott
and Jennifer Porta, is requestinq final Development Aqreement
approval for 200, 210 and 220 Dale Street
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
approval.
Staff recommends
Councilwoman Lichter stated she feels it would be a good idea
when they come up with this kind of thing that Economic
Development also give us their thoughts on these matters in the
future. She knows conceptually they have approved it. They have
something in writing from Planning and Zoning and feels it would
be very helpful if they had something in writing from Economic
Development.
City Manager Hooper explained they have sufficient cash but they
are going to be looking for probably a bank loan to secure this
and some of the other improvements they are talking about with
FIND Phase II and some of the sewer agreements the Council hasn't
seen yet that are coming in with the Massey Airpark. Those would
be paid back out of pledges to budget the appropriate out of
General Fund.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she thought there was more time
leeway in this. A longer time frame than a year. City Manager
Hooper explained the time frame is narrowed down because they are
going to work to put that road, water line and sewer line in.
She commented on what they are going to get out of it. We will
be able to profit from the industry that gets put in there and it
will help our tax base. It also shows the business industry we
are serious about expansion. Councilwoman Lichter spoke about
Florida Shores residents having to pay 1/3 and the tax base
paying 1/3, why are we paying the total money for this road.
City Manager Hooper elaborated on this situation as opposed to
the Florida Shores situation. He compared the taxes paid by
residential compared to commercial and industrial.
Mayor Schmidt stated as we move this infrastructure out that way,
we know we are going to keep going. This isn't sort of dead-end
size pipes where we are going to develop problems. We will be
able to easily continue from here. City Manager Hooper
elaborated on what has happened in the past and the way
infrastructure is put in now. This will service a large area
that has a master plan in place.
Mayor Schmidt opened the public hearing.
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, spoke about the tax base. She
thought the City of Edgewater voted to abate to some extent the
ad valorem taxes on business and industry if they hired over a
certain number of people. She is not speaking against this
project. She just wants to get that straight. She thought the
people in this City were the only City to vote to give business
and industry an abatement on their taxes.
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City Manager Hooper stated there is an ordinance that had been
put in place. Only one applicant has tried to take advantage of
that. This is not one that would be taken advantage of. All of
its increased ad valorem would be into the City's benefit plus
any of the other offshoots to that.
Ms. Hill asked if they are eligible for that. Ms. Plaskett
commented on criteria that has to be followed. There is only one
business in Edgewater that has taken advantage of that. Ms. Hill
asked if Mr. Porta's business would be eligible for it. Ms.
plaskett explained she could not answer that question because the
site plan just came in. That has been out there for a number of
years and only one business has taken advantage of it.
Joe Martin, spoke on the ad valorem tax exemption. There are
certain requirements that have to be met that are mandated by the
State that each applicant must be evaluated on their own merits.
If they meet all of that criteria, it is still up to Council to
approve or disapprove any applicant. The State mandates that you
can grant an exemption of up to 100% on any improvements put in
place for certain types of jobs and higher pay scales. Each case
would be evaluated on its merits. Any business that owns the
property could be eligible for that exemption. A tenant in a
building could not apply for that exemption. These are
considered on a case by case basis.
City Manager Hooper spoke about this being an economic
development incentive package.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, stated he is not against this
project. He went on to speak about tax dollars being spent. He
spoke about the assessment in Florida Shores being 1/3, 1/3 and
1/3. Originally it was supposed to be 50/50. He is from
Edgewater Landing and it was not 1/3, 1/3, 1/3, it was 100%
annexation that they paid for their own streets.
Scott Porta, 210 Dale Street, stated the water line is as big as
they could make it. He was required to put in an 8" water line
and the city paid an extra $14,000 to up size it to 12". He
spent an extra $7,000 running it about 600 feet farther than he
needed to so it could reach the next owner's property, in the
interest of future development. He is giving an 80 foot right-
of-way and the property for the lift station, which they have
also, in the interest of future economic development, placed at
the far end of Dale Street. His interest is to see the City
grow.
City Manager Hooper spoke about a similar piece of property at 46
and 1-4 where the Towne Center Mall and Heathrow are now. He
spoke about future growth. He predicts the City will see this
investment well worth it and see a return pretty quick.
Ed Keenan, 1905 pine Tree Drive, stated he met Mayor Schmidt at a
meeting with Congressman Mica. He gave him some positive ideas
and he sees he used them in the newspaper article. He would like
to see Edgewater grow and thinks there is potential for it. He
feels Mr. Porta has a unique business and potential for new
technologies that will bring more business, jobs and industry
here.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved for approval, second by Councilman
vincenzi. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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C. 2nd Public Hearinq, Attornev Marv Hansen, authorized aqent
for Golden Star of Central Florida, Inc., is requestinq final
Development Aqreement approval for Roval Oaks Community Park, 800
W. Park Avenue
City Manager Hooper made a brief staff presentation.
Planning and Zoning recommends approval.
Staff and
Councilman Vincenzi stated he took a ride out there the other
day. Is there any comment on the type of development or
landscaping that is going to be out there? City Manager Hooper
explained that will come back through the Land Development Site
Plan review process.
Mayor Schmidt asked if the people in the park will own their own
lot? He was informed no they would not.
Mayor Schmidt asked if there were any comments.
Mary Hansen wished everyone a Happy New Year and let Council know
they were available to answer any questions. This park was
developed well before the Land Development Code came into place
and a big part of the development agreement you are approving
tonight is intended to bring it and up grade it into the 21st
Century.
Mayor Schmidt stated if there are no comments, he looks for a
motion.
Councilwoman Lichter moved for approval of the final development
agreement for Royal Oaks Community Park, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Citizen Code Enforcement Board Appointment - Councilman
Vincenzi's appointment to the Board to fill the remaininq term of
Sonla Wiles, who had missed five out of the last six meetinqs
B. Janitorial Services - Police Department recommendinq approval
of a 4th Amendment to Aqreement for Janitorial Services provided
bv Kathleen DeRosier for $150 per month
C. Vehicle Purchase - Parks and Recreation/Maintenance
requestinq approval to purchase Chevrolet Maintenance Van from
Gateway Chevrolet-Mazda for $17,225 (Budqeted item/$18,680)
D. Equipment Purchase - Environmental Services requestinq
approval to purchase three lime slurrv pumps for Water Treatment
Plant from Watson-Marlow-Marlow/Bredel for $16,800 (Budqeted
item/$18,000)
E. Equipment Purchase - Environmental Services requestinq
approval to purchase a 4 X 2 3/4 Ton Ford F150 Pickup with heavy
duty towinq packaqe from Duval Motor Company for $16,620
(Budqeted item/$17,000)
F. Enqineerinq Services - Environmental Services requestinq
approval to award preliminary desiqn enqineerinq services for
reclaimed water facility improvements to Honeycutt/PEC Enqineers
for an amount not to exceed $20,915 (Budqeted item)
G. Risk Manaqement Plan - Staff requestinq City Council's
acceptance of the RMP
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City Manager Hooper brought Council's attention to Item F. The
company he is with is a sub-consultant to the company that does
the survey work. They have been doing work for the City off and
on for the last two years. He is not involved in negotiating the
contract. He wants to point it out publicly that is the company
he is affiliated and part owner with.
City Manager Hooper informed Council what items go on the Consent
Agenda.
Councilman vincenzi asked to have Item A removed and ask the Code
Enforcement Board to review their own applicants and make their
own recommendations.
Councilwoman Lichter made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda
eliminating Item A, second by Councilman Brown. The motion
CARRIED 5-0.
City Manager Hooper asked Council if they want it routine to make
sure that all the applications go back through the appropriate
boards and they make the recommendations. Councilwoman Rhodes
stated in her case, one application had not been seen by the
board and she wanted them to see all of them before they made a
recommendation. City Manager Hooper stated some boards make
recommendations and some boards don't. He asked for Council
direction.
It was the consensus of Council for all boards to make
recommendations for appointment.
City Manager Hooper asked Council if they want the recommendation
on the Consent Agenda, Board X recommends Joe and that is in
front of you or do you want so it is their option but they are
told who Board X recommends. Councilman vincenzi stated he would
like a recommendation from the board but he would also like to
see all the applications.
It was the consensus of Council to reserve the right to pick any
of those but they want to see who the board recommends.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Transfer of Funds - Police Department requestina approval to
transfer $4.933.90 from the Law Enforcement Trust Fund into the
General Fund for the purchase of six body armor vests
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. This is not a
budgeted item. Staff recommends approval.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved for approval, second by Councilman
Vincenzi. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Sludqe Disposal - Environmental Services requestinq approval
to 'piqqvback' aqreement between H & H Liquid Sludqe Disposal.
Inc. and Florida Water Service Corporation for Edqewater sludae
disposal (+$70.000)
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
There was a discussion regarding how the City saves money by
piggybacking.
Mayor Schmidt expressed concern that we have some type of
knowledge where the sludge is being dumped and it being legal.
City Manager Hooper explained the sites have to be permitted
through DEP.
Councilman Vincenzi moved for approval, second by Councilman
Brown. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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C. Joint proiect Aqreement between Edqewater and FDOT (SR 442) -
requestinq authorization for Mayor or City Manaqer to execute
Aqreement for utility relocation
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Lichter asked why they are getting to this stage
when there are so many parts of the road they don't agree on.
Shouldn't they get those things settled first? City Manager
Hooper stated the parts that we are disagreeing on are details
but they are really very minor. They will adjust those plans and
match our criteria or their own criteria. They want to know we
are serious about this and are going to pay our fair share of the
utility relocation. Nothing happens until they finalize the 100%
plans. We will get another shot at those.
Councilman Brown moved for approval, second by Councilman
Vincenzi. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OFFICER REPORTS
City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
City Manager Hooper informed Council of the Y2K compliance. It
didn't present anyone locally a problem. This morning when he
got here they checked every computer and electronic media we have
and we found nothing that tells us we had any glitches. The
Police Department and Fire Department were on standby New Year's
Eve night. Despite the problems with service and response from
HTE, the City had no problems with their system. We checked all
of our bank records and we have the same amount of money today
that we had Thursday.
Mayor Schmidt asked City Manager Hooper if he knew overall what
Y2K cost us. City Manager Hooper stated for us it cost about
$150,000 because we bought a new computer system. The old system
that we had could have been brought up except they didn't make
the Y2K compliance so we were forced into a new purchase.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated when you are talking about computer
system are you talking about software. City Manager Hooper
stated he is talking about hardware and software.
City Manager Hooper informed Council we have reached the point
when architectural designs are complete, the bids are complete
and construction is underway at the gYmnasium. He asked for
Council direction and requested from the Mayor appointment of
either himself or a designee to be on the committee with Jack
Corder and the architect to make the final selection on exterior
colors, interior colors, tile, and carpet. The architect has a
list and set of samples and makes a recommendation. There are
two choices and everyone as a group could do that or he
recommends someone be appointed.
Mayor Schmidt stated if Councilwoman Rhodes and Councilwoman
Lichter are willing, he would like both of them to be involved
with Mr. Corder. City Manager Hooper stated if there are two
members on there, he would have to post the meetings. If there
were one we wouldn't and that is why he asked for one but he
doesn't have any problem with that. Councilwoman Rhodes stated
just let Councilwoman Lichter do it. She trusts her.
Councilwoman Lichter would rather they post the meeting and both
of them go.
City Manager Hooper spoke about appointing a group to discuss his
potential contract. He suggested the Mayor or his designee, the
Personnel Director and the Finance Director from staff negotiate
his contract.
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Councilwoman Lichter asked about sometimes there is another
manager involved. City Manager Hooper stated usually the other
managers are involved with short-listing and the selection.
Mayor Schmidt agreed to be the one to negotiate.
Seek Council direction concerninq selection process for City
Attornev responses
City Manager Hooper informed Council we now have six applicants
for legal counsel. He presented Council with a list of the six
firms. He asked Council for direction on where they go from
here. They could appoint staff members to talk to, screen and
bring three or four in for interviews or they could talk to all
six themselves. This person works directly for Council, not the
City Manager. He asked Council if they would like a reduction of
three or four. The committee could probably be the Finance
Director, himself and Robin to do a short-listing.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if they are all firms, even when one
individual name is listed. City Manager Hooper stated it is a
firm in the fact that it is a legal law firm with an individual
with handful of paralegals and a handful of support staff. He
thinks Mr. Webster's firm is similar. Because it is still a
firm, he has access to other co-counsels. He has worked with
four of the six firms. He asked council how they would like him
to proceed.
Councilman Vincenzi would be in favor of having staff make a
short-list. Councilwoman Rhodes and Mayor Schmidt would like to
interview all six.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if they made any stipulation that we
wanted one person to be with us all the time. City Manager
Hooper described the advertisement.
City Manager Hooper stated if Council wants to interview all six,
he should give Council a summary of what their applications are
describing, tell them what disciplines they are working for, and
tell them what cities in Volusia County they represent so they
have a fact sheet on all six.
Councilwoman Lichter would also like to hear from all six. City
Manager Hooper asked about a half hour with fifteen minutes of
questions.
Councilwoman Lichter asked about Donna McIntosh already
representing the City. City Manager Hooper explained Ms.
McIntosh represents the City in the one case with Mr. Barrett.
She is available and has offered to help on any other things we
wanted.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if any of the others have been
attorneys for the City before. City manager Hooper stated Judson
Woods was an attorney for the City from 1975-1981. Ms. Wolf
stated Foley & Lardner also did on personnel issues.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if this would be done in public. City
Manager Hooper stated the interviews would be. He suggested
Council hear all six and narrow it down from there. When you get
down to one or two, you may want to ask individual questions.
Councilwoman Rhodes suggested they could possibly narrow it down
from the fact sheets. City Manager Hooper stated if they would
like to consider that, he could have the facts sheets ready
before the work session. He informed City Clerk Wadsworth she
would have to post it on the work session that they are going to
take that action.
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Mayor Schmidt asked if the work session starts at 7 p.m. City
Manager Hooper informed him 6 p.m.
CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Dick Jones, 1530 Saba1 Palm Drive, spoke about the selection of
nominees for City Boards. He spoke about when he served on the
Economic Development Board and including the selection of
applicants in their by-laws. When it came before Council for
approval, one member of the Council convinced the rest of the
council to change that wording to where Council made that
selection. He believes Council should allow the different boards
to make their own nominations.
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, feels the boards are very important
to the operation of the City. She feels it is important to put
the right people on those boards. This hasn't been done in eight
years and it was done tonight. She applauds Council for that.
Mayor Schmidt asked if they are going to want to look at
including that in all the boards by-laws. City Manager Hooper
explained the by-laws are proposed by each of the boards and are
brought back to Council. They can look at the by-laws and where
there are questions send them back to the appropriate boards and
have them make the recommendation back to Council.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilwoman Rhodes
moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 10:03 p.m.
Minutes submitted by
Lisa Bloomer
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