06-21-2010 - Regular
CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 21, 2010
6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Michael Thomas
Councilwoman Debra Rogers
Councilwoman Gigi Bennington
Councilwoman Harriet Rhodes
Councilman Ted Cooper
City Manager Tracey Barlow
City Clerk Bonnie Wenzel
City Attorney Carolyn Ansay
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Special Meeting of February 23, 2010 (continued from the May
17, 2010 meeting)
Mayor Thomas asked Councilwoman Rogers if she solved her issue.
Councilwoman Rogers informed him it wasn't her issue. It was
something brought to her from a citizen and she guessed it was taken
care of.
Mayor Thomas had sort of a problem with the letter Mr. Capria
submitted. He asked if they were okay.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to approve the February 23, 2010
minutes, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. Regular Meeting of April 19, 2010
Mayor Thomas stated he met with City Clerk Wenzel on two occasions and
read the minutes and listened to the audio. It was just about
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verbatim. He has done a lot of research lately and according to
Florida Statutes City Attorney Ansay said minutes should provide a
reasonable summary of the actions which occurred at the meeting but
are not to be a word for word transcript of the meeting. He read the
portion of the letter submitted by Mr. Capria that he felt was almost
an accusation. He felt somebody needed to apologize to City Clerk
Wenzel.
Dominic Capri a , 606 Topside Circle, apologized to City Clerk Wenzel.
After going over and over it again, it is on the CD. It was not in
the minutes and he knows verbatim they don't have to put them in the
minutes but he felt such an important issue should have been put in
the minutes. He informed Mayor Thomas he was the one that threatened
him. He didn't think he was being fair to all the residents. Some
residents were let to go on and on and another resident he pushes the
button. He apologized again to City Clerk Wenzel. Mayor Thomas
stated that was what he was looking for and was satisfied with that.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the April 19, 2010 minutes,
second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
C. Regular Meeting of May 17, 2010
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the May 17, 2010 minutes,
second by Counci~woman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
3. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/PLAQUES/CERTIFICATES/nONATIONS
A. Video Growing "Smarter" in Volusia
Mayor Thomas stated they had a video that was put together by the
Smart Growth Committee that showed the various stages of the County
and what the other cities were doing. He wanted Council to see the
part about Edgewater.
City Clerk Wenzel played the video for Council. After the part about
Edgewater was seen, City Clerk Wenzel stopped the video.
B. DUI-Zero Tolerance Saturation
Police Captain Dave Arcieri presented an update on the Zero Tolerance
Detail held on May 28, 2010.
4. CITIZEN COMMENTS
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The following citizen spoke:
Bill Glaser, 1703 Needle Palm Drive, was wondering if there was
anybody in the City that knows what the affinity was their three block
long residential street has for City trucks. He asks this question
every three or four months. City Manager Barlow didn't think it was
isolated just to City trucks. He commented on the alignment that has
with Mango that attaches to Park Avenue and those coming into Florida
Shores off Park Avenue that use Mango. He felt the City trucks were
the most identifiable but he didn't think it was just germane to City
trucks.
Mr. Glaser stated when the City trucks are working east of the
railroad tracks they drive right by the truck route. The truck route
isn't marked as is required by State law so maybe they don't know it
is a truck route. When they are working out west, when they come back
they drive by all of the streets that go north back to Mango Tree to
the City facility but they come down and use Needle Palm to go north.
He was wondering if anybody knew what the affinity was that City
trucks have for their street. City Manager Barlow stated the direct
answer was no and he agreed to look into it. Mayor Thomas stated he
spoke with Mike Tenney who was going to ask them not to go down that
street if they could possibly help it. Mr. Glaser pointed out that
they were driving 1/10 of a mile further and this being a cost to the
taxpayers for diesel fuel.
5. APPROVAL OR CHANGES/MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA
6. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Rogers stated at the last Council meeting they were
presented the CAFR and they had not even had an opportunity to read
the CAFR so they could ask the auditor questions. She would like to
request that at their next Council meeting they have the
representative from James Moore and Company come to their meeting and
then they get to have a discussion with him. She has read through the
CAFR and she spoke with City Manager Barlow today about it and there
are some concerns. There were auditor notes that were brought up in
the City CAFR. It is time the Council needs to realize they can be
held personally liable for the finances and/or problems in the City.
She asked the Council if they had an opportunity to review the CAFR.
Mayor Thomas informed her no. Councilwoman Rhodes did review it and
she spoke with Finance Director John McKinney about it. She felt it
would be a great workshop. City Manager Barlow agreed to schedule a
workshop. Councilwoman Rhodes stated obviously the auditors made some
comments about some things that need to be corrected and done and she
told Mr. McKinney to correct it and do it. Councilwoman Rogers
pointed out it wasn't that easy because the comments were very
involved. She spent time on the phone with an auditor today and felt
what people had to understand was this City received an Award of
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Financial Excellence but the financial excellence is based upon the
presentation of the financials. That is not giving any level of an
opinion or anything on the finances of the City has a whole. She
presented an example of refinancing bonds in November of last year.
Those bonds should have been paid off this year. If that was the case
in their financials last year they should have accrued something
because they would have been using funds this year to pay that off and
she didn't see where that was in there. She made mention of speaking
to Mr. McKinney about the sale of ParkTowne. She had a problem with
this being listed under Other Financing Sources. She has spoken to
two other government auditors that indicated to her that she was right
and that should have been listed under Special Items, not Other. His
explanation to her was a Blue Book which went over her head. She
didn't know what a Blue Book was but she does now. It is nothing more
than her US Master Tax Guide and her guide is a guide. She goes to
the Codes when she is doing something. She feels they need to
schedule a workshop to get this right before they get into next year's
budget. Their General Fund, that budget is done on a Fund basis. She
feels they need to get more detailed and do it on a department basis.
They had over expenditures of $300,000 last year. It is recommended
in the notes that they go back and amend the budget. She saw City
Manager Barlow shaking his head and stated she knew when he said what
he said to her today, 30 days into the next year, she spoke to the
auditor and that wasn't what he said to her. She was going to believe
him because he is the auditor and has been doing this for 15 years.
This CAFR was not presented by the auditor. This CAFR was presented
in-house with staff. She spoke with City Manager Barlow about having
a governmental financial director who needed support staff. She saw
in the future they were going to get him some more support staff that
are qualified. If you can't delegate work to people under you to do
something, if they don't have the level of knowledge and expertise,
they aren't helping him and he can't possibly do this by himself. She
again suggested they do a workshop and look at this for three or four
hours. It needs to be exhausted because the Councilmembers, including
incoming Councilmembers, need to have an understanding. This is the
most important issue they have that will make or break this City.
Right now they have serious issues with the Water/Sewer Fund. The
funds from Water/Sewer revenue were pledged to pay the bonds. When
they did the transfers that was illegal. They should have done loans
and at the same time, even that wouldn't have been correct because it
was never recorded. They have to address this.
Councilwoman Rhodes felt the concerns Councilwoman Rogers had should
be itemized before the workshop takes place and should be given to Mr.
McKinney so he has the information needed. Councilwoman Rogers
informed her the auditor notes were it. That was the place where they
could start.
City Manager Barlow stated the audit was presented by James so he did
do the presentation at the last meeting, which he felt was pretty
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favorable. There are notes and it isn't uncommon for a CAFR. A new
auditor can come in with a fine tooth comb and he appreciated them for
that but many of those findings, practices or issues were prior to
anyone on Councilor currently any staff in the positions today.
There are some on-going issues. He then commented on the Action Plan
that Mr. McKinney is working on and is about half way through that
would address each one of the auditor comments. Each department that
has some kind of relationship with some of those concerns has provided
comments to Mr. McKinney as well. It is a team effort. They have
fingerprints on the solution to make these better going forward and to
correct some of the concerns. He spoke of offering to each
Councilmember the opportunity to sit down with James, the auditor who
made the presentation, one on one as well as Mr. McKinney. To date
they have not had any requests. If they wanted to have a workshop
prior to the next Council meeting they could schedule it for 3:00 p.m.
He asked for Council direction.
Councilwoman Rhodes would rather the workshop take place when the
Action Plan was finished. City Manager Barlow felt they could have
the Action Plan put together by the next Council meeting.
Councilwoman Rogers stated she fully understood what City Manager
Barlow was talking about. She didn't pick on things that were in the
past. There was more there. This is stuff that has happened in the
last two years. There were many things that were not done correctly.
She felt they needed to have the workshop before the Action Plan was
completed because there could be things gleaned from it that could
help him with the Action Plan. She made mention of only one other
Councilmember reviewing the CAFR and pointed out she was the only
Councilmember that contacted the auditor.
It was the consensus of the Council to hold a workshop separate from a
Council meeting. City Manager Barlow asked Council to land on a date
at the conclusion of this meeting.
Councilwoman Bennington also wanted to see Mr. McKinney's Action Plan.
She understood she hadn't had a chance to read the CAFR because she
has had a whole bunch of other things and has been on vacation but for
Councilwoman Rogers to imply that the rest of the Council doesn't know
what is going on with it is irresponsible on her part. She has been
an elected official in this City for ten years counting the other
terms she has served and Councilwoman Rhodes has been here for eleven
years. Councilwoman Rogers stated she didn't read it. Councilwoman
Bennington stated she didn't have a chance but it doesn't mean she
isn't going to read it before she needs to. Just because Councilwoman
Rogers jumped on it doesn't mean they have to jump on it when she
thinks they should. She resented Councilwoman Rogers implying that
they don't know what is going on. She felt the workshop was a good
idea and had no problem with that.
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Councilwoman Rhodes agreed with Councilwoman Bennington.
Councilwoman Bennington reported that at the last Volusia League of
Cities Dinner they had the three finalists for City Manager of the
Year. City Manager Barlow came in second and got the Silver Star
Award. He was robbed. He should have been first. They are very
proud that he has done the job for such a short time and has done such
a great job. She thanked City Manager Barlow.
Councilwoman Bennington stated they have other cities begging City
Manager Barlow to come and work for them.
Councilman Cooper reported on the YMCA. The Smart Growth Program for
the children has been going strong. They are going to come up a
little short on their goals this year. The pool is open and has been
a great success. The swimming lessons are going great.
Councilman Cooper stated they are still waiting for their latest RCC
meeting and they haven't gotten any new foundation on that as yet with
the issue outstanding there.
Councilman Cooper stated the MPO meets tomorrow. There is still a
website he needed the citizens to go to, VolusiaCountyMPO.com and fill
out the survey. The survey is very important for the future of the
roads, rails, buses and bridges.
Councilman Cooper thanked everyone that attended the Memorial Day
ceremony at the Edgewater Cemetery. They had over 200 people there.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Award the bid for Eastern Shores Water Quality Monitoring to
Environmental Consulting and Technology Inc. in an amount not
to exceed $43,650 and authorize the City Manager to execute
all associated agreement documents
B. Award the contract for Environmental Consulting Services to
Zev Cohen, ESI and Biological Consulting Services and
authorization for the City Manager to execute all associated
agreement documents
C. Award the bid for Emergency Green Waste Hauling and Disposal
to Ceres Environmental Services, Inc., and authorize the City
Manager to execute all associated agreement documents
D. Approval of the disposal of Fixed Assets from the property
records in the Finance Department
Councilman Cooper moved to accept the Consent Agenda, second by
Councilwoman Rhodes.
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The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. 2nd Reading, Ordinance No. 2010-0-09; An amendment to the City
Charter by Amending Section 1.01(a)
City Attorney Ansay read Ordinance 2010-0-09 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked for public comment.
The following citizen spoke:
Leo Towsley, 2828 Unity Tree Drive, stated when they said east of U.S.
#1 what about companies buying the commercial properties on the east
side. He questioned why they didn't make the height limit only on
Riverside Drive.
Councilwoman Bennington felt he had a good point but they didn't do
that. Councilwoman Rhodes commented on bringing up the same arguments
as Mr. Towsley at the first reading.
Councilman Cooper stated the original from the Committee was brought
forward that they remove it completely. The compromise was east of
the centerline of U.S. #1. Councilwoman Rhodes stated it is not their
job to get that amendment passed. It is their job to take it to the
voters and let them decide what they want to do with it. Mr. Towsley
commented on Riverside Drive being the part that everyone complained
about. Councilwoman Bennington stated they basically agree with Mr.
Towsley but they had to compromise to get it on the ballot.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Rogers made a motion to approve Ordinance 2010-0-09,
second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. 1st Reading, Ordinance No. 2010-0-14; Amending the Future Land
Use Map from Low Density Residential with Conservation Overlay
to Commercial with Conservation Overlay for 1.8~ acres of
property located at U.S. Highway No. 1 north of Edgewater
Lakes Boulevard
City Attorney Ansay read Ordinance 2010-0-14 into the record.
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City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. This went before the
Planning & zoning Board on June 9th and they gave a favorable
recommendation for approval.
Councilwoman Bennington stated as long as it was before the Planning &
Zoning Board and they agreed. Councilwoman Rhodes pointed out it was
on u.s. #1 and should not be residential.
Due to there being no public comment, Mayor Thomas opened and closed
the public hearing and entertained a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Ordinance 2010-0-14, second by
Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
C. Resolution No. 2010-R-11i supporting the rail component of the
FEC Corridor Project (in the form of Amtrak Service) from
Jacksonville to Miami
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2010-R-11 into the record.
The following representatives spoke:
Blair Elliott, Friends of Historic Canal Street, commented on working
with FDOT and Amtrak to generate grass roots support for the
reestablishment of passenger rail on the existing FEC rail line. She
spoke of tying together the historic cities along the east coast. She
made mention of federal stimulus money and needing a lot of local
people to say they want the project. She then commented on the
organizations they have received local support from so far. They have
pledged to the coalition 1,000 letters of petition support. They have
666 and needed 334 more by the end of June deadline.
Skip Byrons, Friends of Historic Canal Street, left some petitions if
anybody wanted to sign it and support them.
Councilwoman Bennington was looking at the proposed new stations with
the closest being in Daytona and Titusville. She asked what the
advantage was to Edgewater. Ms. Elliott explained the cities that
were going to receive stations had been working on the project a
minimum of ten years, with some as long as fifteen years. She
commented on if they help get the first round of funding there would
be a second round of funding which is when New Smyrna hopes to qualify
for a station. She made mention of New Smyrna having already started
their planning process. If they do not get the first round of funding
there will not be a second round.
Councilwoman Rhodes questioned if this would have an effect on the
high speed rail. Ms. Elliott explained it would help them gain access
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to the high speed rail. Councilwoman Rhodes felt the rail from the
east coast to Orlando is more advantageous for the people that live
here. Mr. Byrons pointed out this would lead to a lot more in the
future and that this was just the beginning.
Councilman Cooper felt this opens up many new avenues. He expressed
concern with the $268 million in stimulus money not being anywhere
near what the cost of this is going to be. He hadn't seen any
projections on the overall cost and where that money is going to come
from and the operational costs and what it means to the taxpayers.
Ms. Elliott informed him the $268 million was what the project would
cost and further explained what this would cover.
Councilman Cooper again asked about the increased operational costs by
Amtrak which would get passed back to the citizens. He asked where
that money would come from and what the projection would be that they
would have to find a way within their cities to get that money. Ms.
Elliott informed him it came from two sources, tickets and cost. She
further commented on Amtrak being federally subsidized.
Councilman Cooper explained in the MPO nothing can go forward unless
they have the operational money raised or a way to show they have it
raised. What is the overall cost going to be and what were the
suggestions from the Committee on how they are going to raise that
money? Ms. Elliott commented on having the statistics from Amtrak.
She spoke of Amtrak backing out and that being the reason it was not
funded in 2001. Amtrak in regard to this project is financially set
to do this project. She agreed to forward any information she has to
the City. Councilman Cooper wants this to happen but he doesn't want
it to be like the Votran situation. Councilman Cooper asked her to
keep him updated on when the August or October meeting would be where
they would explain how this would all be funded because he would like
to attend.
City Manager Barlow asked Ms. Elliott to provide any information to
City Clerk Wenzel who would then provide it to the Council.
Due to there being no public comment, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilwoman Rogers moved to approve Resolution 2010-R-ll, second by
Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
Mayor Thomas recognized Joie Alexander, Volusia County Councilmember
who was present at the meeting.
There was a ten-minute recess at this time. The meeting recessed at
7:01 p.m. and reconvened at 7:11 p.m.
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D. Resolution No. 2010-R-12j Establishing Policy to temporarily
reduce fees for Annexation of non-residential property
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2010-R-12 into the record.
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. He then identified
sections of the zoning map. He felt they were pretty shy as it
related to commercially zoned and industrially zoned properties. He
also explained the 2009 Final Tax Roll, Taxable Value by Property
Class, which was laid out on a pie chart as well as a spreadsheet. He
then went on to describe the Market Value compared to the Taxable
Value from years 2003-2010.
City Manager Barlow then commented on Council's direction in the past
for him to go out and start working towards some incentives to try and
bring in more commercial property. He then identified for Council an
initiative to take the burden off of the residential properties. He
spoke of working on the enclaves and bringing those into the City if
it is non-residential.
Councilman Cooper commented on being for industry and looking for
clean and green industry. As they offer incentives and start to give
tax breaks, he expressed concern with having the danger of flipping it
the wrong direction where the residents will be paying a larger
percentage when he is trying to incorporate industry. He spoke of
bringing each situation forward rather than make an outline plan and
looking at them on an individual basis. He spoke of there being a
point where they would have to cut off the incentives because they
need the tax base. They need to find a way to not be the highest ad
valorem for the residents in the whole County every year. He realized
this was only good until October but he knew City Manager Barlow would
come to them again in November and ask for a renewal. That was what
he was afraid of by adopting these types of resolutions.
City Manager Barlow reminded Councilman Cooper this only had to do
with annexations and was only for one year. At the last meeting a
majority of the attending Council gave him direction to bring this
back because they don't want to see them on an individual basis and
want more of a defined program. He addressed Councilman Cooper's
concerns by identifying there was an expiration date and Council being
able to elect to extend it an additional year. He then addressed the
concern of taking some of that money out of the impact fees.
Councilman Cooper agreed with doing it but his immediate concern was
putting money away. He felt they needed to keep an eye on this every
month no matter how long the resolution is for. City Manager Barlow
commented on part of the incentive being to attract these properties
to come in and that is just one year of ad valorem taxes. Every year
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thereafter, they would now have them in the City and would appreciate.
those taxes.
Mayor Thomas commented on shifting the tax burden from the residents
who are paying a majority of it now.
Mayor Thomas asked for comments from the public.
The following citizen spoke:
Bob Overton, 631 Starboard Avenue, asked what the dollar impact was.
He asked how many annexations they would have and how much money they
were talking about in terms of funds that are not going to be coming
into the City if they approve this. How much more money is he going
to have to pay in taxes to make up for that?
City Manager Barlow commented on most of those costs being absorbed
in-house. There is no direct dollar figure because they don't know
how many annexations are going to be requested. These are all
properties they aren't appreciating any taxes on today. He presented
an example of the storage facility that recently annexed that was
estimated about $10,000 additional of ad valorem taxes they received.
They waived it for a one year period but every year thereafter they
will appreciate.
Mr. Overton asked who decides on the annexed properties how much is
going to be alleviated in the annexation. City Manager Barlow
commented on taking the taxable assessed value and applying it against
the current millage rate. Mr. Overton commented on there being a
formula identified in the resolution.
Councilman Cooper commented on the agreement and stipulation they made
with DCA for Restoration they can't annex any large residential
properties. Councilwoman Rhodes stated this only affects non-
residential and had nothing to do with residential. Restoration had
no impact on this at all.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to adopt Resolution 2010-R-12, second by
Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 4-1. Councilwoman Roqers voted NO.
E. Resolution No. 2010-R-13i Adopting the Comprehensive Economic
Development Strategy (CEDS) Plan for the purpose of long-range
economic growth
City Attorney Ansay read Resolution 2010-R-13 into the record.
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City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilwoman Rhodes felt they did an excellent job. They not only
identified the problem but created a map to solve the problem.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Resolution 2010-R-13, second by
Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
F. Indian River Self Storage, LLC requesting conceptual site plan
approval for a 38,000~ square foot expansion of the existing
mini-warehouse facility as well as an additional RV parking
area located at 3515 U.S. Highway 1 (This item was continued
from the May 17, 2010 Council Meeting, Item 8J)
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. He spoke of Council
having concerns with the conceptual plan regarding the aesthetic
barrier, fire hazard, number of RV parking spots and Packwood Drive
status. Mr. Lear has resolved all of those presented before the
Planning & Zoning Board and they have provided favorable review.
Development Services Director Darren Lear started his presentation by
addressing the concerns regarding Packwood Drive that was previously
identified by Council.
There was a brief discussion regarding Packwood Drive continuing to be
maintained by the County until such time they were to annex properties
surrounding the road, which they have in writing.
Councilwoman Rhodes expressed concern with the parcel owned by J.C.
Carder. She asked how this would impact this. She asked if he could
stop travel through there if he wanted to. Mr. Lear didn't know what
the document said on that deed for that parcel of land. It doesn't
have any effect on this parcel. They would access from U.S. #1, not
Packwood Drive.
There was some misunderstanding regarding comments made by Mr. Lear
regarding part of it being a parcel of land owned by J.C. Carder and
he didn't know how that happened. Mr. Lear informed her Mr. Carder
owned the property to the north.
City Manager Barlow mentioned this being a recorded access easement
and personally he didn't see how anybody could restrict access to all
of those when it has been traveled for many years. There are
prescriptive rights, etc. City Attorney Ansay explained for purposes
of conceptual approval of this site plan she didn't see that it was
really much of a concern recognizing he may indeed hold title to that
property where Packwood Drive does go over it.
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Mr. Lear commented on the proposed number of RV spots being 15. City
Manager Barlow informed Council they would be used for storage only.
Mr. Lear then commented on the concerns regarding the aesthetic
barrier and the fire hazard. Staff recommends approval.
Mayor Thomas asked for comments from the public.
NoraJane Gillespie, 3588 Omni Circle, was pleased with the TRC and
felt St. Johns took her formal complaint to heart. The stormwater has
been corrected according to the engineer.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to accept this Indian River Self Storage
LLC conceptual site plan approval, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
9. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. Planning and Zoning Board - Councilman Cooper's appointment
due to the expired term of Robert McIntosh, who seeks
reappointment
Councilman Cooper made a motion to reappoint Robert McIntosh to the
Planning & Zoning Board, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. Planning and Zoning Board - Mayor Thomas' appointment due to
the expired term of Jean Kayat, who seeks reappointment
Mayor Thomas nominated Jean Kayat to the Planning & Zoning Board.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to reappoint Jean Kayat to the Planning &
Zoning Board, second by Councilwoman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
C. Code Compliance Board - Councilwoman Rhodes' appointment due
to the expired term of Ed Corn, who seeks reappointment
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to reappoint Ed Corn to the Code Compliance
Board, second by Councilman Cooper.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
D. Code Compliance Board - Councilman Cooper's appointment due to
the expired term of Sherry Lester, who seeks reappointment
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Councilman Cooper moved to reappoint Sherry Lester to the Code
Compliance Board, second by Councilwoman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
E. Code Compliance Board - Mayor Thomas' appointment due to the
expired term of Ben Wagner, who seeks reappointment
Mayor Thomas nominated Ben Wagner to be reappointed to the Code
Compliance Board.
Councilwoman Rogers questioned Ben Wagner being able to be reappointed
since he was running for Council. It was determined he could not hold
two offices and if he won the election he would then have to resign
from the Code Compliance Board.
Councilwoman Rhodes moved to reappoint Ben Wagner to the Code
Compliance Board, second by Councilwoman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
F. Economic Development Board - Councilman Cooper's appointment
due to the expired term of William Wetherell, who seeks
reappointment
Councilman Cooper moved to reappoint William Wetherell to the Economic
Development Board, second by Councilwoman Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
10. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Approval of engineering design services for the 30th Street
Sidewalk Project and authorization for the City Manager to
execute a work order to Quentin L. Hampton Associates in the
amount of $59,755 for engineering services related to said
design
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Mayor Thomas asked for Council Comment. There was none.
Mayor Thomas then asked for comments from the public.
The following citizen spoke:
NoraJane Gillespie, 3588 Omni Circle, stated at the time they put in
the 30th Street sidewalk Gates Castle was the City Engineer. The City
did not own 30th Street from u.S. #1 to the railroad tracks. That was
a County road and they were under negotiation and could not complete
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negotiation before construction so the County put in that sidewalk
where it exists now. The City put in a cross over for the kids. She
further commented on the original plan and intent.
Due to there being no further discussion, Mayor Thomas entertained a
motion.
Councilman Cooper made a motion to approve the engineering design
services for the 30th Street Sidewalk Project, second by Councilwoman
Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
B. Change Order #1 to McMahan Construction in the amount of
$64,900 with an additional contract time of 45 days and
approval of the work order to Quentin L. Hampton Associates in
the amount of $8,000 for the construction of the New Water
Supply Wells
Brad Blaise, Quentin L. Hampton Associates, described for Council the
reason for the Change Order with regard to drilling the wells and not
getting the yield out of three of the four wells. He further
commented on using an air bursting technology. They thought they
would only need to do three of the four wells.
Councilman Cooper asked what the malfeasance would be of looking at
that due to looking for future demand. He asked money wise if it
would be more advantageous to hold off? Mr. Blaise informed him the
cost to do four of these would probably be what they would pay to do
one later.
There was a brief discussion regarding the extra needed funds still
being available through the SRF Loan. Mr. Blaise explained when they
did the original loan planning they planned on about $1.3 million.
Bids came in just under $900,000. He further identified how the loan
process works.
Councilwoman Rhodes questioned what Quentin Hampton was doing extra
that they were getting $8,000 for. Mr. Blaise informed her they
weren't getting a penny and explained the money was for the geological
sub consultant. They are administering the gentleman for the City as
a professional service.
Councilwoman Rogers commented on the notes they got on the amended
change order about the contingency funds not being available. She
asked how that would affect this if it is not available. Mr. Blaise
elaborated.
Councilwoman Rogers asked how much of that was the grant? Mr. Blaise
informed her the money subject to the additional work was not a grant
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eligible item and was a loan eligible item. Councilwoman Rogers
confirmed they would be repaying this at 2.47% for twenty years.
Mayor Thomas asked for comments from the public.
The following citizen spoke:
Justin Kennedy, 1005 Fernald Street, asked if the technology was going
to yield the 350. He asked if there was a guarantee. Mr. Blaise
informed him there was no guarantee. Councilwoman Rhodes informed Mr.
Kennedy it was in there that they were going to do one and if that
doesn't work they won't waste money on the rest of them.
Councilman Cooper asked what the percentage was on them doing this in
the past. Mr. Blaise commented on doing it in Deland in the past year
and they basically got over a 50% increase yield out of that well. He
further commented on it being a different formation. He would like to
think they could get about a 30-50% increase from the yield. They
were hoping to get another 100 or 120 gallons per minute per well.
Mayor Thomas entertained a motion.
Councilman Cooper moved to approve Change Order #1 to the McMahan
Construction contract in the amount of $64,900 with an additiona~
contract time of 45 days and to authorize the Mayor and City Manager
to execute the document and to approve Change Order #1 to Work Order
#2007-13 for Quentin L. Hampton Associates ref~ecting the increase in
the amount of $8,000 for geotechnica~ services, second by Counci~woman
Bennington.
The MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
C. Award bid with bid alternate for the replacement of the
Aerator and Stairway at the Alan R. Thomas Water Treatment
Plant to C&S Technical Resources in the amount of $317,945 and
authorizing the appropriate budget amendment
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
Councilman Cooper asked what the undesignated projects were and what
they were taking money away from. City Manager Barlow informed him
nothing. Environmental Services Director Brenda Dewees explained in
the Renewal and Replacement Fund there is $250,000 set aside for
undesignated projects just for this purpose. They have received
comments from the Department of Health to have this infrastructure
replaced.
Councilwoman Bennington asked about
$132,258 from undesignated projects
says the repairs for this service.
the budget amendment and moving
and putting it into a line that
Ms. Dewees stated it was moving it
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from undesignated projects to machinery and equipment fund where the
$150,000 was originally budgeted. Councilwoman Bennington didn't
understand the $35,637 from the prior years' carry forward to this
project. She asked where this was coming from. Mr. McKinney
explained currently their assets exceed their liabilities by
$5.6 million total in the Water/Sewer Fund. Part of the mid-year
budget amendment which they have talked about doing would show those
carry forwards.
Councilwoman Bennington moved to approve the award of the bid to C&S
Technical Services in the amount of $317,945 and authorize the City
Manager to execute all associated agreement documents and to approve
the budget amendment moving $132,258 from the undesignated projects
and allocating $35,687 from the prior years' carry forward to this
project, second by Councilwoman Rhodes.
The MOTION CARRIED 5 - 0 .
D. DRAFT Ordinance No. 2010-0-16; Establishing Policy to
temporarily reduce impact fees for non-residential properties
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation. He informed Council
they would not be doing a motion and he was looking for consensus and
direction from Council.
City Manager Barlow wanted Council to talk about this and give him
consensus if they like it.
Councilman Cooper wanted it to be clear that this was only a one year
deal. He questioned how they would monitor jobs. He then asked if it
were a sizeable company if they should protect the City with some kind
of verbiage that says it can never exceed what the impact fee would
be. City Manager Barlow informed him it was in there that it could
not exceed.
Councilwoman Bennington was also going to ask how they monitor the
jobs. City Manager Barlow informed her they have to fill out a form
with the State and they would have to provide that to the City.
Councilwoman Bennington questioned if they don't keep the jobs for the
year, they have to pay the City back. She wanted to know and wanted
to see it in the ordinance how they were going to make them pay it
back and in what amount of time. City Manager Barlow informed her he
and City Attorney Ansay were working on that.
City Attorney Ansay explained they have already gone through and
revised the version council had before them to provide some more
meaningful standards. As the resolution points out once an applicant
applies they will have an agreement that they will execute with the
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applicant that will have even greater standards. The ordinance would
have more information when it comes back to Council for first reading.
Councilwoman Bennington asked what happens if the business falls
before the end of the year and how they would collect money from them
then. City Attorney Ansay commented on most places doing that as a
lien on the property. They can either record the lien at the time of
execution of the agreement or the lien can be recorded once they fail
to meet some standard. She recommended they do the former that they
agree up front to put that in there.
Councilman Cooper suggested setting up an escrow account where they
would pay the City the money up front and the City would reimburse the
money back. City Manager Barlow commented on the City doing very good
on lien satisfactions. City Attorney Ansay commented on the need for
some flexibility.
Councilwoman Bennington pointed out if the City collected the money up
front why would anyone want to do this. Councilwoman Rhodes felt it
would defeat the purpose of doing this to have an escrow. The whole
point of this is to make it advantageous to locate here.
Councilwoman Rogers believes this is premature that they are looking
at this. They aren't even into this year's budget. They don't even
know the impact of what their property tax revenue reduction is going
to be. They need to wait until after they go through the budget and
revisit this. Councilwoman Rhodes stated impact fees have no bearing
on ad valorem taxes. Councilwoman Rogers stated in the CAFR notes it
indicated where they had expenditures in excess of appropriations.
When they suffer in one area, the General Fund is going to balance
that area and the General Fund is where their property tax revenues
are and it all does work interchangeably even though they don't want
to address it that way.
Councilman Cooper thought what City Manager Barlow was saying was by
the time the language gets tweaked and they have now just brought a
basic outline forward, they will almost be on the budget and would
have that information. City Manager Barlow commented this being
associated with those impact fees for future projects. He presented
an example of purchasing the house next to the Police Department.
Councilwoman Rhodes stated if they reduce the impact fees now for one
year and assuming that somebody locates a business in this City and
provides jobs and ad valorem taxes so then your tax revenue increases
even though the impact fees decrease temporarily. She thinks it is a
really good tradeoff. What they need in this City is business. City
Manager Barlow stated and jobs.
Councilman Cooper felt they should go forward with this and look at
the language.
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City Manager Barlow commented on needing this because it is an
ordinance and he has to advertise this prior to so he needs that lead
time. He could bring this back for first reading at the July meeting.
Councilwoman Bennington wanted to see the completed draft before it
came back to them for first reading. City Manager Barlow stated then
they would do the first reading in August and the second reading in
September. City Manager Barlow pointed out they had one project
waiting. Councilwoman Rhodes asked if they could, based on the
formula, help him or at least vote on him and then move forward with
this. City Manager Barlow stated now that they have an idea of what
they think they want to do he can put that one project back on the
agenda for July as well as what he thinks may be the final daft based
on comments Council made tonight and they could do August and
September for the ordinance.
City Attorney Ansay recommended that they approach any project that
comes to them before passage of this ordinance and the manner in which
they approach the other case by case projects as opposed to this
formula. This is involving agreements and things along that nature
which they won't have in place. To try to do it with someone who is
coming prior to passage would be cumbersome.
E. DRAFT Ordinance No. 2010-0-17; Establishing Policy to
temporarily defer applicable Sidewalk, Fire/EMS, Police and
Transportation/Road Impact Fees
City Manager Barlow made a staff presentation.
There was a brief discussion regarding this ordinance not having
anything to do with jobs. This is something that would be adding to
our commercial tax base here by bringing business here.
Councilman Cooper expressed concern with it being over a three year
period. He liked one year. He didn't want to see it deferred if they
run into financial difficulties, they aren't going to get a dollar.
He commented as they bring in more industry and more people they are
going to need the sidewalks and fire and police.
City Manager Barlow pointed out this was only deferring. They are
also going to get an additional 5% which is probably more than they
are making on their impact fee money today. He then suggested one
year from completion of construction.
Councilwoman Bennington commented on it taking a business
approximately three years if it is starting from the bottom before it
starts to turn a profit. She felt 5% wasn't a bad deal.
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Councilwoman Rhodes suggested maybe they could do it in such a manner
that after a year, they could make payments on it instead of having
the full amount at the end of the year, maybe give them a 5% interest
rate on it and pay it off over a three year period of time.
Councilman Cooper suggested keeping it to a year and then relook at it
and keep the two ordinances close together. City Manager Barlow
stated there was no penalty for early payoff which he would encourage
because it is 5% on whatever is owed.
City Manager Barlow asked for Council direction if they wanted one
year or three years.
Councilwoman Rogers stated this wasn't something she would vote and
say to do. She was against impact fees being omitted. She doesn't
see every municipality doing this and do they have businesses knocking
on our doors right now wanting to come into the City of Edgewater.
City Manage Barlow informed her he was negotiating with a couple.
Councilwoman Rogers told him to share it and tell them. Councilwoman
Rhodes stated if they can compete with other cities they will come
knocking on our door.
It was the consensus of Council to go with one year.
11. OFFICER REPORTS
A. City Clerk
City Clerk Wenzel informed everyone that qualifying for the upcoming
election ended on Friday at noon. They would not be having a primary
election in August. They would only have the General Election in
November.
Councilman Cooper asked her if she could state the candidates. City
Clerk Wenzel reminded Council they were also available on the website.
The candidates were: Mayor Thomas and Dennis Vincenzi for Mayor,
James Brown and Justin Kennedy running for District 1 and Mike
Ignasiak and Ben Wagner for District 3.
Councilman Cooper asked if they were going to mandatory set a debate.
Councilwoman Bennington informed him the City isn't involved with
that.
Councilman Cooper then asked if they were going to give each
individual the opportunity to come up and state their credentials.
Mayor Thomas thought the Chamber would have a forum.
B. City Attorney
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City Attorney Ansay stated last month they conducted the Restoration
DOA hearing at City Hall. It has concluded and they were now waiting
for word from the administrative law judge. She expected to hear
something in the next week or two. It went really well. The
administrative law judge who conducts hearings allover the State of
Florida said he received the nicest welcome, the facilities were
wonderful; and that City staff did a tremendous job in making his stay
comfortable and his time in the hearing productive. She thanked the
staff that went overboard in having water and snacks. They had the
hearing conducted in two days. The judge contributed $5 towards all
the expenses associated with anything he consumed. He refused to do
it on the City's nickel for fear that it could be used against him so
he did financially contribute.
C. Ci ty Manager
City Manager Barlow wanted to set a date for the CAFR workshop. The
first preliminary budget workshop was on July 12th. He was going to
ask Council if they wanted to also do a budget workshop at 5:00 p.m.
on July 12th to establish the maximum millage rate.
It was determined the CAFR workshop would be held on July 7th at 3:00
p.m. pending the availability of James or someone from James Moore &
Company.
City Manager Barlow asked the Council if they wanted to do a Special
Meeting at 7:00 p.m. directly after the 5:00 p.m. workshop on July 12th
to establish the maximum millage, which would take it off the July 19th
agenda. The Finance Director would be out of town the week of July
19th.
City Manager Barlow then reminded Council of the Budget Workshop on
August 16th at 5:00 p.m. to discuss the General Fund budget. If they
have time they will get into the Enterprise Fund budget. If they run
out of time, they have a tentative Budget Workshop scheduled for
August 30th at 5: 00 p.m. On September 13th they will have the first
public hearing on the proposed millage and on September 27th they would
have the second hearing on the adopted millage.
Councilman Cooper asked if there was any way they could find out the
number of homes that they won't be able to collect tax revenue from.
City Manager Barlow informed him they only do that when they are gone.
Councilwoman Rogers stated the Finance Director is aware of these
things because he gets the feed from Volusia County and he will record
it as deferred tax revenue. Finance Director McKinney stated when
they set the millage they anticipated to collect $4.9 million in ad
valorem this year. He has collected $4.7 million. He has only under
collected $240,000. He spoke with the tax collector on Thursday and
they will get the remainder of that money the end of this week or
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beginning of next week. Out of $4.9 million only $200,000 is left
uncollected and that went to the tax deed sale on May 28th and May 30th.
City Manager Barlow reminded Council of the 4th of July festivities.
Councilwoman Rogers apologized if the perception of what she said was
attacking or accusing. All she was wanting to do was the City CAFR
was dumped on them and they didn't have a chance to talk about it.
There is no way that any of them could understand everything in there
unless they do specifically ask the auditor.
12. CITIZEN COMMENTS
The following citizens spoke:
Joe Martin, has owned property in Edgewater since 1988, primarily what
he owned was industrial property and he served on the Industrial
Development Board. Over the years he has seen a lot of things come
and go in terms of trying to do something to put a little more of a
tax base off of the residential and onto the non-residential. If they
want to look at doing something like that, some things they need to
consider are the differentiation between commercial and industrial.
He felt they had great opportunity to do a case study. He spoke of
his property being in the County as well as other properties around
the airport. The City wasn't getting any revenue from those
properties. They entered into an annexation agreement with the City
that they would come into the City if the City would put in water and
sewer. That happened. This was a cost to the City. They didn't get
any exemptions for fire impact fees and things like that. At the time
the water and sewer system was put in he got the Utilities Department
to prepare the actual cost that the City had to upfront to bring those
people in on the ad valorem tax base. He felt this was a good
opportunity for the Economic Development Board to do a study and look
at the tax records from 2004 forward at how much money they have
actually gotten to offset the cost.
Justin Kennedy, stated in regards to the ad valorem waivers and
whatnot you never really know how it is going to work out. Right now
the times are a little different than they were in 2007. None of them
have a crystal ball and they do what ultimately feels right at the
time of the decision. In terms of the deferment issue with the
sidewalks and stuff he suggested they amortize it, not waive it and
add it to the water bill every month. City Manager Barlow informed
him that was more of an assessment.
Mr. Kennedy felt if they were going to have these tax breaks and
incentives to bring in businesses, just like a company would unveil a
new product he felt that was a good product for them to be unveiling.
He felt they should follow up these ordinances and waivers with a
marketing campaign and bring it to the commercial realtors in the area
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and other people like Joe Martin that know people
influence in industrial and any type of business.
commented on marketing this to businesses.
and have a circle of
He further
Councilman Cooper stated on July 4th all of the Fraternal Organizations
in the City were hosting barbeques and banquets.
13. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Cooper moved to
adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:46 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Bloomer
Attest:
APPROVED:
City of Edgewater, Florida
Bonnie Wenzel, City Clerk
Michael L. Thomas, Mayor
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