10-19-1998 - Regular
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CITY OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 1998
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Allman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:23
p.m. in the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Randy Allman
Councilman James Gornto
Councilman Myron Hammond
Councilman Gary Roberts
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Attorney Nikki Clayton
Interim City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and a pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
PRESENTATION OF PLAQUES/PROCLAMATION/CERTIFICATES
A. Mayor's Award of Excellence Plaque and Proclamation
Mayor Allman read a proclamation and presented Bill Jackson
with the Mayor's Award of Excellence.
B. Mavor proclaiming the week of October 18-24. 1998. as
Florida City Government Week
Mayor Allman read a proclamation proclaiming Florida City
Government Week.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Special Meetinq of September 24. 1998
Councilman Hammond made a motion to approve the September
24, 1998 minutes, second by Councilman Roberts. The motion
CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
Doris Hill, 112 Lincoln Road, spoke about Mr. Barrett asking
for an abatement for a utility bill. She feels Council
started a bad precedent a few weeks ago. When residential
citizens get up here and ask for an abatement, we don't get
it. She spoke of an instance with Cliff Clark. She feels
the builders are getting another perk here. She urged
Council to consider if they are going to abate his bill, she
hopes they apply that abatement to what he owes the City.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Hammond spoke about reading the newspaper and
someone stating he wanted the Y for his son because they
drive back and forth to Port Orange every day. Even if the
Y is built here, if he used anything he would probably be
using the nautilus equipment down here. He doubts seriously
that he would be down here at the Y practicing because he is
with a very qualified coach in Port Orange where he will
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probably stay even through Senior High School. He is not
pushing for his son but the community as a whole.
Councilman Roberts asked why they haven't started site work
at the Fire station site when they had the ground breaking
ceremony a couple of weeks ago. Interim City Manager Hooper
stated they have ten days from the notice to proceed to get
started. They are well within the contract and have turned
in all of their insurance forms. The contract was executed
today.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about hiring engineers to look at
the Water Treatment Plant reclaimed water and using the
Mango Tree lake as storage for the water.
utilities Director Terry Wadsworth presented
reason they haven't gone any farther on that
the abnormal weather conditions we have had.
monitor that over relatively normal periods.
monitoring the rise and fall of the lake and
rainfall has on it and the stormwater runoff
it.
a report. The
is because of
They need to
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the effect
that goes into
Mayor Allman asked if they have heard from st. John's as to
whether they can use that for reclaimed because they are
calling for drought next Spring and Summer. Mr. Wadsworth
stated st. John's with the consumptive use permit has
granted permission for the City to withdraw up to 1 million
gallons per day from that lake. They are looking at the
ability to also be able to store in there.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the forum she held. She
feels it was very successful. She spoke about Code
Enforcement being a hot issue. Concerns were expressed
about used cars for sale on SR 442, large boats,
recreational vehicles in driveways and other code area
concerns. She spoke about the subject of Charter revision
and overlapping terms. She stated there were over 30 people
and feels it was successful.
Mayor Allman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Gornto had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Public Hearinq - Ord. 98-0-08 Amendinq Chapter 2
(Definitions) and Chapter 10 (Hardship Relief) of the
Land Development Code to add 'minor residential
construction variance. '
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Staff recommends approval.
Mayor Allman read Ord. 98-0-08 and opened the public
hearing. Due to there being no citizen comments, the public
hearing was closed.
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve Ord. 98-0-08,
second by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Public Hearinq - Ord. 98-0-07 Amendinq the Truck Route
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Mayor Allman read Ord. 98-0-07 and opened the public
hearing.
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Mr. Glasser, 1703 Needle Palm Drive, asked what streets are
being designated as truck routes. City Attorney Clayton
stated they are listed in the ordinance on Page 3, Section
17-7.
Mayor Allman listed the truck routes.
Mr. Glasser asked if the Police Department would be aware of
the truck route streets. Interim City Manager Hooper stated
a copy of the ordinance will be given to the Police as well
as a map. They are going to post the streets that are truck
routes so they will be identified.
Mr. Glasser asked if the streets that are residential will
continue to have signs that stipulate trucks over one ton.
Interim City Manager Hooper stated the existing signs will
be. They aren't going to go back and add new signs
throughout the City. They are going to post the truck
routes.
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve Ord. 98-0-07,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Resolution No. 98-R-11 Amendinq Council Order of
Business. General Citizen Comments
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Mayor Allman read Res. 98-R-11. Mayor Allman opened and
closed the public hearing due to there being no citizen
comments at this time.
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve Res. 98-R-11,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Vehicle Purchase - Staff requestinq Council approve
purchase of two 1999 Ford Crown victoria Police
B. Vehicle Purchase - Staff requestinq Council approve
purchase of two 1999 Chrvsler Cirrus unmarked vehicles.
(Total $30,000
C. Payment of Lien - Satisfaction of special assessment
(pavinq) lien. (Collected $960.24)
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the Consent
Agenda, second by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED
5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Interlocal Aqreement - Staff recommendinq Council
approve an Interlocal Aqreement by and between the
School Board of Volusia County and the city of Edqewater
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Staff recommends approval.
Councilwoman Lichter questioned if the School Board would be
interested in using the facility the City builds and if
there might be some cooperation that way. Interim City
Manager Hooper clarified this is something that could be
explored. They could have some discussion and find out if
there is any potential to expand that use or how it could be
continued in the future.
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Councilwoman Lichter moved for approval, second by
Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Bankinq Services - Staff recommendinq Council approve an
agreement with First Union National Bank for banking
services
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Staff recommends continuing with First Union National Bank.
Councilman Gornto asked if it is true that if a City
employee gets paid by check and they go to First Union and
attempt to go through the drive in window to cash the check,
they are in fact told they can not cash it at the drive in
window and must go into the lobby.
Mayor Allman stated yes.
City Clerk Wadsworth believes it is something that is
recently taking place at First Union.
Interim city Manager Hooper stated Barnett and Nations do
that also.
Councilman Roberts asked if they can ask for a reason from
the bank. Interim city Manager Hooper stated if the Council
would like, they could ask that question and bring the
agreement back.
Councilman Gornto has no problems with the agreement. He
suggested negotiating with the Edgewater Branch that the
employees that get a check drawn on that bank can go through
the drive-in window.
Finance Director Karen Rickelman explained First Union has
offered to come into the City and sign up those employees
with an 10 card so if they don't have an account at First
Union they can just take their 10 card and go through the
drive through and they will be glad to cash their check for
them.
Councilman Roberts questioned how often the City should get
competitive prices as they did this year. He feels it had
gone too long before. Interim City Manager Hooper explained
he kind of likes the idea of every third year.
Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Special Activity Permit - New Smyrna Beach Rotary
requestinq to hold a charitable carnival on U.S. 1 south
of Barnett Bank October 29tn - November 1st. 1998. and
waive administrative fees.
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Staff recommends approval.
Mayor Allman asked what actually comes back to the city of
Edgewater from the New Smyrna Beach Rotary. Bill Jennings,
New Smyrna Beach Rotary, stated a scholarship to students is
what is returned. Mayor Allman asked how many scholarships
and how much was returned to Edgewater last year. Mr.
Jennings stated he didn't have that information available
but would be glad to furnish those. The date has been
changed and that was not his doing, from the October 29th
to November 1st.
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Councilwoman Lichter asked if we have a local Edgewater
Rotary. Mr. Jennings stated yes, we do.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if there is a reason it is not
held in New Smyrna. Mr. Jennings stated no, no reason that
he knows of. We have members from Edgewater also.
Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman
Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. MonthlY Water Bill Fees - Mr. Barrett requestinq a
reduction in the accrued minimum monthlY utility bill
for a dwellinq under construction, which has been
dormant since May 7, 1996, and requestinq utility
service resumed.
Interim City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
Staff recommends denial of the applicant's request.
Councilman Gornto made a motion to deny this request, second
by Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about sending letters to
residents. This man obviously knows and maybe the man two
weeks ago knew. She didn't know he was a developer. When
anybody's meter is taken out, a letter will be sent
informing them they will still be charged the minimum bill.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Mike Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, thanked the Council
for approving the variance on developing the homes. He
feels the one that suffers is the one building the home. He
also thanked the Council for choosing First Union Bank.
Ron Prekup, 1829 Lime Tree Drive, feels we need to get
communications out in the news media and maybe in the
newsletter and explain to some of the residents exactly some
of the questions they have on the YMCA. He was enlightened
at the workshop.
Dr. Charles Gebelein, 1730 Umbrella Tree Drive, spoke about
the YMCA. He asked why Edgewater should be the one footing
the bill. Why can't New Smyrna be pitching in. Money wise
Edgewater is a distant second to New Smyrna. Why isn't New
Smyrna giving money for it?
OFFICER REPORTS
City Clerk Wadsworth stated they are still meeting with the
children for Florida City Government Week.
City Attorney Clayton had nothing at this time.
City Manager
1) Citv attendance at Leqislative sessions
Interim City Manager Hooper informed Council if they are
interested in going to let him know.
2) Budqet for Research Assistant (Individual trackinq the
Leqislative Proqram)
Interim City Manager Hooper informed Council this is a
request for a contribution of $360 from the City of
Edgewater to fund a person that tracks and will follow bills
as they go through their legislative progress.
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Interim City Manager Hooper explained it is divided up to
about $.02 per person within the City. The City is covered
already so he recommended this not be funded.
Councilman Roberts asked if one of the Florida League of
cities representatives were supposed to visit us about
grants. Interim City Manager Hooper stated this didn't make
it in in time to be on this agenda but they are working with
them to see if they can appear on a later agenda.
3) Barrett vs. Meadow Lake Subdivision Lawsuit
Interim City Manager Hooper stated the City won a summary
judgment in the Circuit Court. It then went to the 5th
District Court of Appeals, who overturned that. Our
Attorney requested that go in front of the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court has not acted and declined to accept
jurisdiction meaning it's not going to be reviewed by the
Supreme Court. Donna McIntosh will be available to describe
that if they wish to go into any further detail. There is
no obligation to do anything next. Mr. Barrett has to make
the decision to take it back to Circuit Court.
Councilwoman Lichter asked where Ms. McIntosh stands as far
as who owns that property. Interim City Manager Hooper
stated she has completed that and he has that legal
reference and tax information in his office. What it
appears is Mr. Barrett does not own the property. After
that research has been done he has a quit claim deed that
was not recorded at the time that is now recorded. He has
sent that information to Ms. McIntosh and had her review
that to see if that would have an impact on the finding or
the title abstract or legal research done on ownership of
the property. She has completed her report on that. We are
in the final stages of having engineering firms reviewing
impact of current flooding and looking over the existing
permit conditions as to what did occur and as to whether
there was some impact. Both of those will be on the agenda
coming up in November.
Councilman Roberts asked if the court wanted to know who
owned the property before they made a decision. He feels
that would be a key piece of information.
Mayor Allman stated he asked that same question and he was
told they were acting on a point of law on this decision,
not on a point of the whole lawsuit in general.
Councilwoman Lichter stated inverse condemnation. Interim
City Manager Hooper stated what he thinks they were looking
for at the time, Mr. Barrett claimed he had some flooding
and some temporary taking and that became the issue
described to the courts.
Mayor Allman introduced Bob Thurlow, President Elect of the
Southeast Volusia Chamber of Commerce.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman
Gornto made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at
8:12 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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