12-21-1998 - Regular
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CITY COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 21, 1998
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Allman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:00
p.m. in the community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Randy Allman
Councilman James Gornto
Councilman Myron Hammond
Councilman Gary Roberts
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
city Attorney Nikki Clayton
City Manager Kenneth Hooper
City Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
There was a silent invocation and pledge of allegiance to
the Flag.
PRESENTATIONS
A. Introduction of new firefiqhters
Fire Chief Tracey Barlow introduced the eight new
firefighters, Jason Haynes, Ron Hayward, Shellie
Steven Negedly, David Newell, and Jason Revoldt.
and Jeff Lariscy were not present.
Lewis,
Don Jones
Mayor Allman also commended Carmel Shearer and Joe Daly.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes to be approved.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
George Ewing, 2923 Royal Palm Drive, asked about changing
the titles of people from supervisors to department
directors. city Manager Hooper stated yes and explained the
people in these positions have been in the positions and
have done the functions for many years. We are making
consistent across the board as department directors for
those that are in charge of a budgetary function and a
particular department. They are doing everything within the
rights of a department head but they have not been named so
in the past.
Mr. Ewing asked how many directors the City currently has.
city Manager Hooper said he thinks there is a total of nine.
Mr. Ewing thinks the citizens should be told how many
directors the City has and what their function is.
Mr. Ewing went on to speak about the residency rule in the
Charter and Code of Ordinances for department heads. He
feels Council should take residency into consideration and
particularly with department heads and directors.
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Councilwoman Lichter asked Mr. Ewing about information
Council received from the Charter Review Committee and being
very firm on the City Manager residing within the community
and a possibility of a waiver of the residency requirement
with the other heads. Mr. Ewing stated he thinks the City
Manager definitely should be a resident of the City but he
can understand why Council retained the present City
Manager. There has been a lot of discussion regarding
residency and the Committee is not unanimous on that. There
is a lot of conflict with regard to residency.
Councilman Roberts stated Mr. Ewing mentioned when the
Charter was voted on, it was very much in favor of the
residency requirement, the way the Charter was written. He
stated if the people voted with the clause in there and
support the fact that Council has the right to waive that
requirement, if they felt so strongly about the residency
requirement, then why was that clause left in there and
approved by the voters. Mr. Ewing stated he questioned if
the citizens really knew that was in there when they voted
on it.
There was further discussion regarding whether the residents
knew the waiver clause was being voted on when they voted on
the residency requirement.
City Manager Hooper stated these are not new hires, these
are folks who have been with the City for many years. Mr.
Ewing doesn't want to set a precedent where there will be
department heads hired from outside the City without moving
into the city.
Councilwoman Lichter feels they have to actually state that
they waive their appointments. She referred to section 2-78
of the Code of Ordinances. She feels Mr. Ewing is right
about the intent and new hiring.
Councilman Roberts feels this shouldn't hold up a promotion
from someone who has earned their position. Mr. Ewing feels
they should be very careful about how this is handled.
Dick Martinez, 317 Schooner Avenue, stated he would repeat
what Mr. Ewing said. He understands that we have some
employees who are being promoted and it may be a hardship to
require them to become residents of the City. But still we
have to respect the spirit of the Charter and what the
ordinance says. He feels it is starting to look like most
of our department heads don't live in the city anymore and
the Council has a responsibility and obligation to respect
what the Charter and ordinance requires as far as residency.
He feels this Council is ignoring the City Charter.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Roberts had nothing at this time.
Councilwoman Lichter updated the Council on the community
expo for Senior Services on Friday, January 29th at 11:00
a.m. at Daytona Beach community College. She spoke about a
brochure for seniors regarding who to call when they need
help.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke of a gentleman on Juniper who has
a legitimate concern about the vacant lots in the City that
are overgrown. She feels this could be a potentially
dangerous situation. She spoke to City Manager Hooper and
he agreed to get with Fire Chief Barlow and map out where
the vacant lots are located.
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Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the trucks parked on SR 442
out by 1-95. She suggested contacting New Smyrna and Port
Orange to see what they do with the trucks of people that
live in the community. City Manager Hooper agreed to look
into this.
Mayor Allman had nothing at this time.
Councilman Gornto had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hammond had nothing at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
There were no public hearings, ordinances and resolutions.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Board Appointment - Councilwoman Lichter's appointment
to the Police Pension Board due to the term expiration
of Ruth Garvey. Ms. Garvey reauestina reappointment.
Councilwoman Lichter reappointed Ruth Garvey to the Police
Pension Board.
B. proiect Graduation 1998-99 - Reauestina donation of $500
C. Volusia County Police Chief Association - Reauestina
donation of $500 to assist with expenses of the 1999
Florida Police Chief's Summer Conference
Councilman Roberts made a motion to approve the Consent
Agenda, second by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED
5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Uniform Crime Reports for 1997 - Assessment of
statistical data
Police Chief Schumaker made a staff presentation. He went
on to speak about the residency requirement.
Councilwoman Lichter asked Chief Schumaker if there is any
kind of auxiliary that can work effectively or legally with
the Police Department. Chief Schumaker explained they have
one person who works on occasion but they have found that
not to be particularly successful in police work.
Mr. Ewing spoke about in 1988 after the citizens passed the
residency requirement the Council voted 3-2 to rescind it
but this would not apply to residency in 1992.
Mayor Allman feels the way to resolve this whole matter
would be when the Charter Committee goes before Council with
their recommendations. He personally has the best interest
of the City in mind and will use his vote to waive if he
feels the people we have are the best we can get and are
doing an excellent job.
B. Reoraanization/Reclassification - Reauestina approval
concernina the recommended chanaes. and waive residency
reauirements (Section 2-78) for Personnel Director.
Plannina Director and Buildina Director.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation.
there are eight department heads at this time.
that they continue with the reorganization that
on August 7, 1998.
He clarified
He asked
was started
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city Manager Hooper elaborated on recommended changes with
regard to the reorganization/reclassification. He asked
Council to look at this and authorize the changes that have
been requested.
Councilwoman Lichter asked to discuss the financial
situation in terms of the changes. The total being $13,060.
This money is within the current budget allocation and will
not require and transfer of funds.
Councilman Gornto moved for approval, second by Councilman
Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
C. Eckerd Druqs Final Plat Approval - Recommendinq approval
of final plat for a three lot subdivision.
City Manager Hooper made a staff presentation. staff
recommends approval of the plat.
Councilman Roberts moved for approval, second by Councilman
Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Allman read a letter regarding Ms. Plaskett from
Governor Lawton Chiles prior to his death.
OFFICER REPORTS
City Clerk Wadsworth had nothing at this time.
City Attorney Clayton stated the Charter Review Committee
has had its last meeting and they have final draft of a
Charter they wish to propose to Council. They would like to
request a time within Council's scheduling to meet with
Council to present the report and discuss its contents. She
asked Council to look at their calendars for January.
City Manager Hooper commented on his request to reschedule
and cancel meetings in January. If this is approved by
Council, they could start the meeting on January 11th at
6:00 p.m. with the Charter Review Committee and have the
regular meeting immediately following. Council was in
agreement.
city Manager Hooper agreed to send out a notice to do such.
It will be a joint work session. The Charter Committee
wants to speak to Council and describe what they have
proposed and why they have proposed it and have some open
interface with that.
City Manager
1) Reschedule the January 4. 1999. Council meetinq to
January 11. 1999. Cancel the January 18. 1999. Council
meetinq due to Martin Luther Kinq holiday.
This item was discussed earlier in the meeting under City
Attorney Reports.
2) Donation of two city surplus patrol vehicles to Dixie
County Sheriffs Department
City Manager Hooper made a presentation regarding his
request. This County is undergoing some hardship right now.
Councilwoman Lichter moved for approval, second by
Councilman Roberts. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
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3) YMCA Update
City Manager Hooper elaborated on a rough working draft done
by himself and two members from the YMCA board. He spoke of
the money the YMCA has raised toward a YMCA in Edgewater.
Because of the season and the timing, they have been unable
to come back and bring back to the table a half a million
dollars to a million dollars. They met with him to describe
a scenario they are working diligently to do. He further
commented on what they are planning to do. with Council's
concurrence, he wants to propose to the YMCA they come to
the January 11th meeting to describe this scenario with
this contract.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if they do a phasing type of
approach, is the original plan going to be the first one
they were going to build by themselves or is the original
plan going to have in it the extras we were going to have if
the Y was with us. City Manager Hooper stated the plan will
have the footprint of the building as proposed with the City
plus YMCA. The City will pay the amount it was going to do
if it were going to be only the city's. The YMCA will pay
for the increased sizing of that. As long as they have the
money and depending on the timing, we will construct it at
the same time. By having a phased design, you can either
build the smaller building and have it expandable to a
larger building when the YMCA comes up with the cash or
leave it at the smaller one and either contract with the
YMCA to operate it or operate it ourselves. The $50,000 per
year that has been discussed is not in this agreement. That
would only kick in if Council is willing to but also if at
the time there is a full fledged joint operation of
privatization where they are actually doing something for
the City to operate that building.
Councilman Roberts asked if we still have a commitment from
the Hospital Board on the money they had talked about. city
Manager Hooper stated the Hospital has told him they are
committed. The Hospital would like for the YMCA to be a
partner and they would like to understand the contractual
arrangements between the City and the YMCA before they take
it to their board.
Councilman Hammond stated one of his customers was at one of
the banks and he got a pam~hlet stating that the YMCA is
still going to build on 10 h street. He is all for the Y
but it seems like they are walking a couple of lines.
City Manager Hooper stated he had the YCMA representatives
in the office and asked that question point blank. They
assured him their first choice is the City of Edgewater on
our property and to comply with everything that has been
described.
Councilman Roberts stated that flyer has been around for
quite some time. He thinks they were printed before the
City started working with the Y. Councilman Hammond stated
the problem is they are still passing them out.
Dick Martinez, 317 Schooner Avenue, stated it is his
understanding what city Manager Hooper is proposing is that
the City would sign a contract with the Y going forward and
not knowing if the Y would be able to participate. City
Manager Hooper explained he is showing them the draft of the
contract and describing the conditions in which the city
could go forward. When this would be signed by the YMCA and
the City those conditions would be known and if the YMCA
couldn't come up with the money then the contract goes away.
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Mr. Martinez stated they were told there would be some
condition where they would go forward 12 to 18 months where
they would be able to join us but we would be starting
construction so apparently what you are saying is we would
be entering into an agreement with them of some kind where
they don't have the money but we are spending our money.
city Manager Hooper explained on the facility the City wants
to build independent of the YMCA.
Mr. Martinez asked if this is going to be done on January
11th or where are they going with it. City Manager Hooper
explained the YMCA will be in front of the Council. If they
or the Council are not ready to commit, it will be scheduled
then for a public meeting where they will vote on this.
Mr. Martinez asked about plan A and plan B and wondered if
they are still actively looking at plans B & C, in other
words, excluding this City and going with other partners.
City Manager Hooper stated the primary plan is with the City
of Edgewater. If that doesn't work, he believes they would
be looking at other options but they have made it very clear
they want to join partnership with the City on the 26 acres.
Councilman Roberts stated either way our primary plan is to
provide a recreation center for our people and we have the
funds to do so whether we are on our own or with the Y so
the City benefits either way.
Ed Keenan, 1905 pine Tree Drive, feels the YMCA should start
a fund drive with discounted tickets that would be good for
up to a year and he feels they could raise a lot of money
with that right off the bat.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Mike Visconti, 316 pine Breeze Drive, asked if it is
possible to approve of a gentleman who filled out an
application to serve on the Beautification & Tree Committee
and appoint him tonight. By the time the next meeting comes
around it will be in another two months. We have lost two
members of the Beautification Committee in the last two
months.
City Manager Hooper explained it needs to go through the
process. They can put it on the meeting for January 11th.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman
Roberts made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at
8:04 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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