07-06-1998 - Regular
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CITY
COUNCIL OF EDGEWATER
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 6, 1998
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY CENTER
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Allman called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. in
the Community Center.
ROLL CALL
Mayor, Randy Allman
Councilman James Gornto
Councilman Myron Hammond
Councilman Gary Roberts
Councilwoman Judith Lichter
City Attorney Nikki Clayton
Interim City Manager Kenneth Hooper
city Clerk Susan Wadsworth
Administrative Secretary Lisa Kruckmeyer
Police Chief Lawrence Schumaker
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INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Reverend Dr. Lawrence Tee commented on the help they have
received from Monsenior Francis Campagnone. They would be
pleased to have him as part of their team.
Monsenior Campagnone delivered the invocation. There was a
pledge of allegiance to the Flag.
Chief Schumaker asked for Council's approval in appointing
Monsenior Campagnone as a Police Chaplain.
Councilman Gornto so moved, second by Councilman Roberts. The
motion CARRIED 5-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Re9ular meetin9 of June 15, 1998
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the June 15, 1998
minutes, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Special meetin9 of June 24, 1998
Councilman Roberts made a motion to approve the June 24, 1998
minutes, second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ONLY
Mayor Allman stated he has never seen a town pull together the
way Edgewater has in the last five or six days. The Fire
Department and citizenry are unparallel. He spoke about the CERT
team from Edgewater Landing. We can't say enough about the men
and women of our Fire Department and the citizens who did
whatever they could to help.
Mayor Allman read a proclamation and presented the Mayor's Award
of Excellence to the Edgewater Fire/Rescue Association and
Edgewater Fire/Rescue Department.
Mayor Allman stated Edgewater is the one of the few if not the
only town in Volusia County that suffered zero fire damage.
There were no citizen comments at this time.
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CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about a letter she received from Mr.
Sowers on Travelers Palm Drive regarding delays on a Code
Enforcement issue. It is not her legislative duty to go looking
for code violations. We have a Code Enforcement Officer who has
been instructed to look for problem areas and she has very much
been doing that.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she has been attending the meeting of
all the cities in Volusia County to see how they can coordinate
efforts. She is on the Fire/Rescue unit of that and they have
recently finished a questionnaire concerning fire services. When
it gets back to the subcommittee they will tabulate the results
and bring it to the larger meeting.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about a letter dated June 16th to
George McMahon and Jack Hayman. She feels they should send an
updated list to Jerry Fox from the Volusia County Business
Development know who the Mayor and Councilpeople are.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about the Council going around and
seeing the fire line.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about Kenny Greaves and Animal Control
Officer Robin Feger opening a shelter in New Smyrna Beach off of
Canal Street at the Babe James Center.
Councilwoman Lichter presented an update on the Water Alliance.
They have hired a developer to see where we are going in the next
20 years. We are going to be short of water in twenty years.
Not that there will be less water but more people.
Mayor Allman stated he has been approached by the American Legion
285 about the possibility of a parade on Veterans Day. He
suggested putting this on the next agenda. He read the request
from Mike Blickenstaff. The parade is to be held on November
11th.
Interim City Manager Hooper informed Council they could vote now
or wait until the next meeting.
Councilwoman Lichter stated she is not sure what the firemen had
in mind in lieu of the 4th of July and if they feel there would
be a conflict. Acting Fire Chief Tracey Barlow informed her
there is no conflict at this time.
Mayor Allman suggested researching this and bringing it up at the
next meeting.
Councilman Gornto had nothing at this time.
Councilman Hammond spoke about going to the Fire station and
seeing everything going. He spoke about the false information
given by the news media regarding a mandatory evacuation of
Florida Shores. He feels it was remarkable to see how the
community came together. He thanked everyone that helped.
Councilman Roberts spoke about a resident who expressed concern
about truck traffic on the newer paved roads. He feels 30th
Street, 26th Street and Hibiscus Drive should be marked as truck
routes. Interim City Manager Hooper agreed to look at that.
Acting Fire Chief Barlow presented an update on the fires on a
county-wide level. He referred to a map of the fires that have
burned or were still burning. He spoke about two fires they are
actively watching. He thanked the community for their support.
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Acting Fire Chief Barlow stated everything they have received for
donations they will maintain until they are out of the woods.
Once we are out of the woods, they will take the left over
donations and help support Flagler and Brevard Counties that will
be experiencing a long term recovery.
Acting Fire Chief Barlow stated on July 4th they didn't answer
any alarms that were related to fireworks. The association may
celebrate their 50th anniversary at a later time during the year.
Acting Fire Chief Barlow presented an update on the new Fire
station.
Mr. Visconti asked about evacuation routes. Acting Chief Barlow
explained the main routes should be open. New Smyrna Beach High
School has been established as an alternate shelter.
Acting Fire Chief Barlow spoke about experiencing smoke
conditions for quite some time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Ord. No. 98-0-03 (Flood Control and Drainage) section 9.5-56
(Exemptions)
Mayor Allman read Ord. 98-0-03.
Planning Division Manager Lynne Plaskett made a staff
presentation. The City currently requires new construction to
meet st. John's Water Management District permit requirements and
also City stormwater requirements. This is basically a
duplication of services. This ordinance allows that you comply
with st. John's Water Management District stormwater permits or
the City's requirements based on the threshold requirements.
Interim City Manager Hooper stated it results in a streamlined
process.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if one is more stringent than the
other. Ms. Plaskett explained no they are not the same. There
are different threshold requirements for the City. The city is
more restrictive in certain areas than st. John's.
Mayor Allman opened the public hearing.
Dominic Capria, 606 Topside Circle, stated he realizes they are
doing away with duplication between the City and st. John's. He
asked if this will fix any past permitting problems. Interim
City Manager Hooper stated you would need one permit or the
other. There won't be problems with conflicts in the permits
because you won't have to get both.
Councilman Roberts asked who do they go to to rectify a
situation. Interim City Manager Hooper explained if there is
someone in the permitting process, you would do one or the other.
If it is already permitted it is under the conditions in which it
has been permitted.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if there were two jurisdictions that
gave permits and there is question in terms of one being more
stringent than the other in the past, does the one only hold now
or does the more stringent one hold if it is a past situation.
Interim City Manager Hooper explained if it is previous, it is
the permit that was issued. If those have competing conditions,
then the more stringent will be required. In the future you will
only get one permit.
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Councilwoman Lichter feels they have water problems in many
places in the city. She questioned why they aren't going the
more stringent way. She is worried about areas where she sees
water problems exist. Ms. Plaskett spoke about stormwater
requirements required by the State. It is all based on the total
square footage of impervious surface being created.
Councilwoman Lichter stated it depends on the size of the
project. She spoke about other cities having a person to help
with the process.
Interim City Manager Hooper commented on this being the case in
larger cities with large numbers of permit applications and large
projects where a liaison is assigned to help with the permitting
process.
Councilman Roberts made a motion to approve Ord. 98-0-03, second
by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
B. Ord. No. 98-0-05 Removin9 the three employee cap for li9ht
manufacturin9 in the B-2r Nei9hborhood Commercial District.
section 606.01(b)
Planning Division Manager Lynne Plaskett made a staff
presentation. Staff recommends based on the uses down there,
that the three employee cap for light manufacturing in the B-2
District be lifted until new land development regulations can be
prepared.
City Attorney Clayton stated the ordinance has not been drafted
and is not in the package in front of Council at the moment. She
thinks what Ms. Plaskett has done is come straight from the LDRA
with this information and wanted to get a clarification that the
removal of the cap was for all uses that it applied to. The
ordinance will then be drafted, advertised appropriately and two
public hearings will be held. That is the recommendation from
the Planning and Zoning Board at this time. We also had public
participation on this at the last Planning and Zoning Board
meeting.
Councilwoman Lichter stated the last Council tried to apply to
get this area to be light industry. They thought we had too much
industrial area in town. She feels this takes care of one of
those problems. She asked if there is any connection with the
other cap and if they can vote on this separately. Ms. Plaskett
explained she is looking for direction from Council to proceed
and then they would present an ordinance to Council for public
hearing. This provision lifts the three employee cap on light
manufacturing and there was only one other provision in there
that they discovered that also has a number of employee cap.
That will also be brought forward. Councilwoman Lichter asked if
this only pertains to Hibiscus Drive and Guava Drive. Ms.
Plaskett informed her it is the B-2 District period.
city Attorney Clayton explained there is no ordinance before
Council. This is just to get authorization to prepare and
advertise an ordinance that would remove the cap of three
employees in businesses that provide light manufacturing and
light automotive service.
Councilman Roberts feels this will be a positive move in the B-2
District.
Councilman Roberts made a motion to pursue Ord. 98-0-05, removing
the three employee cap and to bring it back after advertising for
public hearing, second by Councilwoman Lichter.
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Councilman Hammond stated since he has property and a business,
should he vote. City Attorney Clayton stated it is appropriate
for him to announce that and she doesn't believe it enures to his
special benefit, it enures to the special benefit of all in B-2.
She stated he can go ahead and vote.
John Moore, 2354 Fern Palm Drive, feels this is great. He is
glad to see that something is being done. This is just one thorn
on a big bush. The three employee cap hasn't been enforced for
years. He spoke about reasons why they can't rezone that from B-
2 to 1-1. He stated the biggest objection the Department of
Community Affairs has to the City rezoning is the fact that our
Evaluation and Assessment Report was found insufficient. It is
an assessment of how we have complied to our Comprehensive Plan.
We can't amend the Comprehensive Plan until the EAR is found
sufficient. Come November of this year, the State of Florida is
passing new legislation which is going to make it harder for us
to have our EAR sufficient.
Mr. Moore asked Council and staff to work towards getting the EAR
sufficient. He thinks they need to look at doing this before
November 1st while they still can.
Councilwoman Lichter questioned the EAR being insufficient as
being the first reason given by the Department of Community
Affairs. Mr. Moore stated reasons given were internal
inconsistencies, lack of data, and the fact that 68% of our
proposed industrial development was not developed. DCA's biggest
problem with amending our Comprehensive Plan for any reason is
the EAR is not sufficient.
Councilman Hammond asked if we are getting an outside source to
come in and check everything out to help expedite this problem we
have. Interim City Manager Hooper explained Ms. Plaskett is
working on this right now. They are going to meet on it and
either do outside sourcing or fix it ourselves.
The motion CARRIED 5-0.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. satisfaction of special assessment (paving) liens
B. satisfaction of six (6) lot clearing liens
Councilman Gornto made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda,
second by Councilman Hammond. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Blanken's Landing - SD-9601, final plat review
Planning Division Manager Lynne Plaskett made a staff
presentation. A certificate of Occupancy can not be issued until
final plat approval. Staff recommends approval.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if the five occupants will have access
to the recreational area. Mr. Plaskett informed her that is
correct. Councilwoman Lichter asked if there is a stipulation
about maintenance and safety. Ms. Plaskett stated she knows
there was a document prepared for recording. There was some
discussion as to whether a Homeowners Association had to be
approved for this subdivision. She is not quite sure where they
are with that. John Blanken has complied with everything our
Code requires him to do for final plat approval.
Councilman Roberts asked if there were any objections to adjacent
property owners. Ms. Plaskett informed him no.
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Councilwoman Lichter has no problem with the four lots around the
cul-de-sac and the one off of South Riverside Drive but she
thinks it behooves them that there be terminology in terms of
maintenance, insurance, etc. She has been aware of lots in
common when the original developer leaves and then there is
problems with the five people doing maintenance. She feels
whether it comes after or it should come as part of needs to be
tightened up.
City Attorney Clayton explained this would depend on what the
conditions of approval were.
Councilwoman Lichter would like to have more information. There
was a brief discussion regarding Homeowner Associations. city
Attorney clayton stated her concern is whether it was placed on
the development at the time it was approved. She would do a
historical review to see if this was a condition of approval or
if it was something provided for as a condition in the deed.
Ms. Plaskett explained there are deeds, covenants and
restrictions on this piece of property. To date, there is no
homeowners association affiliated with this particular
subdivision since it is only five lots.
Mayor Allman suggested tabling this until the next meeting.
Councilman Roberts asked if the cul-de-sac is an up-to-date paved
roadway and if any improvements have to be done on the
infrastructure for subdividing this property. Ms. Plaskett
explained Mr. Blanken has already done all of the improvements
required.
Councilwoman Lichter is worried about the recreational facility
across the street and what is going to happen to it.
This item was tabled until the next meeting.
B. F.I.N.D. Project - Infrastructure Reimbursement Agreement~
modifications to agreement requested by F.I.N.D.
C. F.I.N.D. Project - Proposed contract with McKim and Creed,
P.A. for design and engineering services including Master Plan
for entire 220 acre site, and development of the F.I.N.D. dredged
materials management site and the Industrial and Research Park
Interim City Manager Hooper explained these are two parts, the
interlocal agreement between the city and F.I.N.D. and the second
is the engineer's contract agreement to do the work. They have
been approved by F.I.N.D. Staff recommends approval of the
infrastructure reimbursement agreement and the contract with
McKim and Creed.
Mr. Webster from F.I.N.D. is present as well as Mr. Sloan from
McKim & Creed.
Councilman Roberts made a motion to approve Items B & C, second
by Councilman Gornto. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
D. City Recreation Complex and Gymnasium - Turgot Avenue
Location Proposed contract with McKim and Creed~ P.A. for design
and engineering services including Master Plan for entire 26 acre
recreation complex and development of gymnasium
Interim City Manager Hooper explained this contract is a not to
exceed amount of $153,000. The gymnasium has a due date of
sixteen weeks from.notice to proceed and the Master Plan is
seventeen weeks from notice to proceed. Staff recommends
approval.
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Parks and Recreation Director Jack Corder informed Council the
concerns they addressed last time were answered and are completed
in this contract.
Interim city Manager Hooper commented on the YMCA discussions.
He thinks these are pertinent to the point that if there are
going to be further discussions the notice to proceed shouldn't
go out until the Council is ready to authorize that.
Councilwoman Lichter spoke about discussions at the meeting with
New Smyrna Beach and the YMCA. She is not sure she wants to
combine what the City has set aside for the recreational complex
for our community. She is ready to go along with the City's
project.
Councilman Hammond stated most of the people he has spoken to
think this is going to be free. Everyone is going to have to pay
to use this. He spoke about having to staff this place and carry
insurance.
Mayor Allman stated why didn't they think about this before they
allocated the money. Councilman Hammond doesn't know if the YMCA
is going to go down at the Christian Life Center. He wants to be
on the back end if this gets turned down.
Mayor Allman doesn't think the YMCA at the Christian Life Center
is going to be. He presented reasons why he feels this way. He
would like to see the YMCA in Edgewater but he also wants to see
the recreation center built. He doesn't want to see the kids in
Edgewater going to New Smyrna Beach and paying an out-of-town fee
to play basketball. He made a proposition to approach the YMCA
with a rent free five-acres at Turgot Avenue which would save
them a tremendous amount of money, a lease of whatever it has to
be legally. He stated let's bring the y to Edgewater but let Oak
Hill and New Smyrna Beach do their share too.
Councilman Hammond feels if an opportunity comes up they need to
keep the door open. Mayor Allman believes offering the y the
five acres will be enticement enough.
Councilwoman Lichter asked if Mayor Allman still sees us as
having our own indoor complex. Mayor Allman stated absolutely.
Interim city Manager Hooper stated Council has the contract for
the design services in front of them for the gYmnasium and also
the Master Plan. Staff recommends Council go ahead and do that.
If you want to discuss further about five acres, we are going to
meet next Monday and Tuesday about the budget and that would be
an appropriate time to bring that up.
Councilman Hammond would like to bring the YMCA to Edgewater. He
feels it would be a great asset to have something like that down
here. He elaborated on the sliding scale based on a family's
income used to determine the fees.
Councilwoman Lichter feels they should vote on accepting the
Engineer's report. She spoke about the health services people
participating in our gYm.
Councilman Hammond feels they need to go ahead with the building.
Councilman Roberts feels they went to the joint meeting with a
more than generous offer. He doesn't feel they got the warmest
of receptions there. He feels we need to look out for our own
people. If we can't coordinate with the other municipalities and
the County and the YMCA, they need to take care of the people
that have paid this money.
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Councilwoman Lichter feels they would have a better shot of
getting grant money if they combine it as a Senior/Youth Center.
Councilman Roberts feels Jim Foster from the hospital should be
contacted as far as incorporating a wellness center into the
City's project.
Councilman Roberts made a motion to accept this agreement, second
by Councilwoman Lichter. The motion CARRIED 5-0.
GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Mike Visconti, 316 Pine Breeze Drive, suggested having a
community center and gymnasium to be used for weddings, banquets,
dances, etc. Mayor Allman informed him this has already been
planned.
Dick Jones, 1530 Sabal Palm Drive, spoke about the fires. He
spoke about the Police Department Dispatchers being on their
toes.
Susan Hammond, 2119 Sabal Palm Drive, spoke about being told she
couldn't water her grass after having pesticides applied to her
lawn. She was told if she was caught watering on days she wasn't
supposed to be she would receive a ticket.
Interim city Manager Hooper spoke about the confusion regarding
the restrictions for the reclaimed water and the potable water
being different. City Attorney Clayton asked Ms. Hammond to
provide Interim City Manager Hooper with a copy of what she
received and he would follow up on this matter.
Paul Jenkins, willow Oak Drive, gave thanks and commendations to
the firefighters that helped with the crisis Florida has been
under. He was confused by the evacuation orders in Florida
Shores and got the right answers from the Police Department.
Mayor Allman stated Acting Fire Chief Barlow is going to come up
with some type of evacuation system providing a series of codes
to simplify things.
OFFICER REPORTS
Administrative Secretary Lisa Kruckmeyer had nothing at this
time.
city Attorney Clayton had nothing at this time.
City Manager
1) Mandatory Reclaimed Water Restrictions
Interim City Manager Hooper explained we have a limited amount of
water and are running out daily. We have instituted mandatory
restrictions.
Interim City Manager Hooper presented an update on the Fire
station. This will be bid in the first week of August unless he
is directed to do something different.
Mayor Allman asked how soon are they looking at it being done.
Interim City Manager Hooper presented a schedule of events. It
should be open in March.
Interim City Manager Hooper informed Council they would have
their first Budget work sessions on Monday and Tuesday. Staffing
the new Fire Station will be part of these discussions.
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Mayor Allman stated Vice Mayor Bracy from Oak Hill has approached
him about the Labor Day group that has boat races that would like
to use the Mango Tree lake. He asked the ramifications of this.
There have been problems in the past with citizen complaints
regarding the noise. This is the only lake that is big enough
for this event. He asked this be put on the agenda for the next
meeting.
Interim City Manager Hooper stated at the conclusion of the
budget sessions, he would like to go into an executive session to
brief Council on the union negotiations. This will be held on
Tuesday, July 14th at the end of the meeting. .
Councilwoman Lichter asked for an update on the legal cases.
Interim City Manager Hooper informed her this would be included
in the budget sessions.
Councilman Roberts stated he was approached by a couple of people
involved with the Boy Scouts. They would like to have a small
jamboree at one of the City's parks, probably Rotary Park. Mr.
Corder stated he planned on bringing this before Council at the
next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Councilman Hammond
made a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:32 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Kruckmeyer
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